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>>13550673
If you need help with any game try checking Akurasu for help:
http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars
Current status of the games availability in the English language as of the end of August 2014:
http://pastebin.com/Y1ND2asB
Detailed Version of Game Availability in English as of Late August 2015:
http://pastebin.com/crZFqXVk
Music Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/dnBSQc3L
Bring Stabity's Quick Guide to Katakana:
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Game Modification Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/BpnabbiH
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http://pastebin.com/mXTM5K5z
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http://pastebin.com/FpW9zx0P
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If you wish to help with the SRW fan game they are always in need of more musicians and artists
Please contact the following e-mail: [email protected]
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First for Shu.
Would you rather fuck an Indian Gynoid or a Cowgirl Gynoid?
>>13553271
Cowgirl.
5rd for Big Bang
>>13553271
By Indian do you mean as a girl from India or a Native American girl?
If the former I'd take the cowgirl if the latter I'll take the Native American.
>>13553294
The latter, of course.
>>13553243
From one of the Mazinger movies. Watch it now.
http://anime.thehylia.com/downloads/series/great-mazinger-tai-getter-robo
>>13552983
They'd have to go through Sunrise to get it.
Back then, they just had to ask Go Nagai to draw up a robot for them, right?
Personally, I'm kind of anal-pained that after all that time, there wasn't a Shinn/Kamille combo attack, but who the fuck knows what would happen to SRW if they opened that flood gate.
>>13553279
>Inspired by his waifu's Big Bangsto unleash his full power.
Andy's my negro.
>>13553193
You could use Funnels with anyone up to SRW EX.
>>13553062
Shuu isn't meant to be defeated. His mech has an all-barrier against Ranged attacks (so your best attacks are a no-no), and will run away after 2 or 3 turns.
However, do note that there is dialogue if you manage to defeat him. I don't remember what he says exactly, but I think Bian just tells him to go.
>>13553315
Yeah, fucking 7 years together and they can't give Shinn a combination attack with Kamille. Or Setsuko and Shinn.
>>13553315
>>13553338
They have never interact outside of SRW where would Banpresto get the idea of a combination attack?
>>13553342
SRW GC/XO had a ton of them.
Though they were mostly "Double/Triple Beam Rifle", still.
I guess having 3D models on hand makes it easier to animate additional attacks.
>>13553342
>Where would they get the idea?
That's kind of a creator's job. Where did they get the idea of making those two fire-forged friends? By telling a tale.
>>13553342
A lot of shit we call SRW staples are just made up, you know.
I didn't see Daitarn 3 helping out with the Gaizock.
I mean, it's something I wanted, but I can still understand why they didn't do it.
>>13553342
Also: where did Daitarn, Zambot and Trider ever perform an attack together outside of SRW? Yet they did get their combo in the games.
>scramble commander 1
>final mission
>15 deployment slots
>only have 13 people
did I fuck up somewhere?
>>13552394
Because.
>>13553305
Mecha's not from that.
Basically, in SRW 2, they decided that since they used the third form of Gilgilgun as the boss of SRW 1, they needed to make a new one in this game. So they designed a fourth form.
>>13553349
I don't think GC actually had any cross series combos outside of J9 Special and Dynamic Special. And technically Project V2 since it's 0079 Gundam and MSV.
>>13553426
Well there's 14 series so unless you have one from each series except probably End of Evangelion, probably.
>>13553426
I've heard there are a couple of secret characters in SC1.
>>13553441
Yea, GameFAQs says Aina and Zechs are both secrets. All the other secrets seem like just weapons though.
NEWS WHEN
>>13553449
>Aina and Zechs are both secrets
so that's why they are in cutscenes
>final mission
this Swordain Guardian can burn in hell
>>13553451
Never. SRW is kill.
By the way, Aya's birthday tomorrow.
What server does /srwg/ play the bootleg on?
>>13553484
32ZoneGaia
>>13553451
Next month at best. I'm assuming we hear news first from Famitsu, right? Which is once a month, early-mid month, yes?
>>13553490
Yeah, usually we get an announcement in Famitsu with a few screenshots then they do one of their Nico streams and show a trailer at the end
finally, Scramble Commander is done.
It really needs some polish.
Now to wait for my torrent of 2 to be done in god knows how long
How late am I in discovering that someone's been uploading gameplay by chapters of pxz2?
>>13553497
Dunno. I'm not paying attention to it. I'd rather go in as blind as I possibly can when it comes out here in February.
>People think Z3 gave resolution to Shin Mazinger
Z3 apologists are hilarious. Fucking BX gave more resolution to Shin Mazinger than Z3.
>>13553516
"BX gave more resolution" isn't incompatible with "Z3 gave resolution", considering Shin Mazinger had none at all.
Just deleted most of everything from my 3DS's SD card to make room forMystery Dungeon- including the vehicle to playing UX.
Feel free to insult me for such a rash decision.
>>13553520
BX had the Great General of Darkness show up.
Z3 did not.
BX > Z3
BX had a new Dynamic Special attack
Z3 did not
BX > Z3
>>13553516
BX cocksucking is never not humorous.
>>13553523
You could've had at least gotten an 8 gigabyte or higher SDHC card.Besides, who's to say there won't be a new Pokémon game announcement in a few days or so?
>>13553528
I would have, and I plan on doing so soon, but fuck shopping this coming week.
>>13553549
Quoted the wrong person, obviously.
![5-5578-18023-greatmazingerjpg-620x[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eQqqg1x.jpg "5-5578-18023-greatmazingerjpg-620x[1].jpg")
>>13553516
>>13553520
>>13553528
Both Z3 AND BX are incomplete. First game to have pic related as playable will have proper resolution for Shin Mazinger.
>>13553528
I'd say the extended Mycenea plot balances with the General of Darkness, considering that they both amounted to shit.
>>13553528
Did BX have a playable Zeus?
>>13553516
>Gave Hades a proper fight along with giving Zeus as a playable unit.
Holy shit you Mazingerfags will never be satisfied.
>>13553567
Zeus and Hades were DEAD in Shin Mazinger.
Z3 just magic'd up their corpses rather than put the effort to even have the Great General of Darkness show up.
>>13553555
Why so? He isn't need and never amounted to anything in the show.
So, think Katz has a chance becoming an ace in this thingy-ma-bob?
>>13553567
It's not Mazingerfags. There's this insecure sect of BX fans that practically deify the game and accept nothing less. Same people that constantly describe it with such charged words as "brilliant" and "gorgeous."
Shit happens, though. It's best to ignore them and move on.
>>13553576
Kats stats as of stage 37
>>13553571
>Zeus and Hades were DEAD in Shin Mazinger.
Did you forgot Hades himself said he was coming back? This is what Z3 took and gave closure to the Mycean plot.
>>13553571
Your idea of effort is lopsided and biased.
Give people the chance to fight alongside Zeus and face off against Hades and the Mycenae properly, as well as extending their plot.
Give people the chance to fight against a rather enigmatic and ominous figure in the show.
Both had plenty applied effort, and saying one outweighs the other is asinine.
Times like this I'm glad I have shit taste so I can enjoy both Z3 and BXand OE.
That said, hopefully we do have something new get announced soon enough so people can have a new SRW to taut as the worst thing since everything.
>>13553578
I'd love to know what threads you've been reading where BX is deified. Opinions on BX range from "Yeah it was pretty good" to "FUCKING GARBAGE 31/40 LMAO" with no inbetween because that's just how things work around here.
Next you'll tell me no one here disliked Z3
>>13553576
I think you need to bench the little shit and put someone competent in it.
>>13553596OE a best, return of ZZ.
What about muh Energer Z
>>13553600
So you weren't here for BX's release? Because there was three on going threads of nothing but BX felating. You even had shit like people calling a 7/10 score "trolling".
And then there's the scattered aforementioned charged words of "brilliance" and what not that thrive throughout discussions that you so willfully ignore as you take the momentary minority of the tongue and cheek 31 posting and equate it to an average.
>>13553596
I envy you, devoid of the very autism that prevents me from certain joy.
>>13553626
>and equate it to an average.
I was saying there were two "extremes", not an average. And 31 was fucking annoying because all people were doing was posting THIRTY ONE at random intervals for weeks, not because of the score itself.
And again, I'd love to see where people were calling BX brilliant constantly. If there was any of that it was just a minority like you claim the 31 posting was.
>>13553623
You fight some of those in BX. I have no idea if you do in Z3, but you definitely do in Z2, so.
>>13553578
I think its less they like BX and more they want an excuse to hate Z3. If you notice, they're more using BX having a different resolution as proof that Z3 has no resolution.
![787565331333e548efc03fcd935d6f1c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mMYEEW4.jpg "787565331333e548efc03fcd935d6f1c[1].jpg")
Yesterday was L's fifth anniversary, by the way.
So you should be playing/replaying L right now!
>>13553653
No L only has either shows I don't care about or shows I don't like.
>>13553531
>Besides, who's to say there won't be a new Pokémon game announcement in a few days or so?
Hey...maybe they make a game this time with actual post game content that lasts long than 2 hours and actually have some new Pokemon beyond like 30?
Ahahaha, yeah I'm a funny person.
>>13553639
It and gorgeous are literally mentioned in every other post about BX and its animations. Desustorage stands as my witness.
>>13553667
>actually have some new Pokemon beyond like 30?
Well that's obviously not going to happen, Z's only going to have new forms and Megas. Still, that'll be more than Platinum or B2/W2 added I guess. As for postgame, well, they officially ran out of reasons to keep holding back the Battle Frontier, so that'll be back. So... "yay" that?
>>13553667
Have faith in GF, anon. They can't win without your hopes and prayers pushing them to victory.
>>13553664
I feel bad for you anon.
>>13553684
How mad would you be if all we got was Avila Battle Maison?
>>13553679
>literally every other post
Last time I checked we spent half a thread a while ago discussing how BX's sprites looked off but the cut-ins were pretty good, whether or not they should've stuck with the proportions of the previous games, and animation in general.
>>13553697
>Avila
Vanilla.
Fuck posting from an IPad
>>13553697
>>13553702
I wouldn't care because the only BF facility I ever really bothered with was the Factory.
>>13553699
Which in said conversation included the words in question.
A conversation does not nullify its own contents, anon.
>>13553696
You should.Actually I only don't like Seed and Destiny but those are both really really bad anyways, the rest I either like or just don't know much about
>>13553719
Man you're really reaching now. Backlink to a post calling BX as a whole brilliant. Not just a specific aspect like the second set of sprites for closeups that turned out to be a good idea. Since apparently you're combing desustorage for evidence you should be able to back up your claims.
>>13553724But L fixes Destiny anon!
>>13553653
>currently playing L
Is there any original more based than the Rushbird? I love the design, attacks, and theme. The cute partner is a plus.
>>13553684
Well I was talking about X/Y, when you added it up considering evolutionary lines there was actually only like 30 new Pokemon in Gen 6. In fact there was barely more than one or two per type and they still saw fit to re-tread old type combinations so we barely got anything new.
Also Platinum and BW2 did more in terms of expanding the game by changing up movesets, in Platinum's case it actually broke the game...ORAS virtually changed....nothing in terms of moves.
>>13553685
The last time I had hope I was rewarded by being spitroast raped in both holes by two big fat dragon cocks whilst Masuda cackled evilly in the background incoherently babbling about how Salamence and Rayquaza made him horny.
Never again anon.
>>13553638
It is nice, I admit, to not feel an irresistible urge to call every SRW game I play garbage and instead say "well, that was fun, when's the next one?"Also I was one of the ones who commented gorgeous, so looks like SORE MO WATASHI DA on this ongoing discussion here.
>>13553684
Hearing talk about an upcoming Z just makes me sad I STILL haven't finished Omega Ruby, even after X rekindled some of my passion in the franchise.
I haven't completed a third version of any Pokemon games since Yellow, though. I too eagerly snatch up the initial versions to have any reason to play a third version even if the extra goodies seem nice.
>>13553766
>there was actually only like 30 new Pokemon in Gen 6
Yeah, but GS didn't add much more in that regard.
>>13553784
Didn't GS add 100 new Pokemons or so?
![rush_bird_color_by_mausaba-d37xx5h[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PSIUaPI.jpg "rush_bird_color_by_mausaba-d37xx5h[1].jpg")
>>13553762
Rushbird is pretty great.
>>13553719
>A conversation does not nullify its own contents, anon.
Reading this just made me feel like a bot just passed by, not even a regular bot but a Chinese bot run through Google translate.
>>13553784
Gen 2 had the excuse that it was basically just a expansion pack for Gen 1. Everything in Gen 2 was just leftover stuff from the cutting room floor they couldn't fit in because of limitations. You can actually look back at old concept arts and design documents, everything in Gen 2 were in the Gen 1 stuff.
>>13553762
Rushbird's pretty sweet. The only problem it has is when it gets the new attacks.
In case you missed it last thread, I finished Compact and uploaded the music I ripped from it:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/swfezc5z5h2npzx/SRW+C.rar
>>13553802
Pretty much the only pokemin that definitely didn't exist in Gen 1 concept stuff are Ladybea and Spinarak since they were designed through a contest in Japan
>>13553813
Wasn't this one of those impossible hard winkysoft era games?
>>13553813
So you're going to play Compact 2? Or going through another game that needs its OST ripped? Because there's one game that needs a better rip. It'sK
>>13553821
He didn't have much trouble with it because he apparently dumped money on a small number of units, put all his V-Ups on one thing with 4 part slots, and let them do the bulk of the work. I assume.
>>13553817
Funnily enough I think they actually amongst the weakest Pokemon in the ENTIRE series for pure stats. Their base stat totals only amount up to like 390, only fully evolved stuff weaker than that are Kricketune, Delcatty, Dustox and Farfetch'd.
At least two of those are deliberate joke/novelties the rest are just WHY DO YOU EVEN FUCKING EXIST.
>>13553837DEDLELEDLEEDLEDLEDLE WHOOOOOOOP
>>13553821
It actually is fucking hard, especially considering I played the favorites game with some units that fall off pretty hard.
>>13553836
That said, yes, L-Gaim with 4 V-ups is pretty hard to stop even in the lategame. it one shotted Don Sauzer, which was pretty hilarious.
>>13553822
And I actually very well considered K, mainly because the one in the pastebin has the same issue as what W's did, and I was lucky to find that someone else had done a better version of W's rips.
But I was debating between Alpha and Compact 2.
>>13553856
I say go for the whole Compact trilogy. So we can HAVE A PURE TIME.
>>13553792
I love rushbird's design and the general concept of the unit, but its attacks are pretty boring, even with all the cut-in hype, it's just a bunch of beams and a punch, and the punch is the most exciting of them.
And the combination attack is incredibly lame and could have just been a shine spark move to the same effect.
I'd have been okay with it if it were a bit more of a direct knockoff of zeorymer, with flashes and waves and shit instead of just big destruction beams with a backpack combination finale.
>>13553856
>Alpha and Compact 2
Why would you even bother with Compact 2? Even with the frameskipping set as high as it'll go you'll be playing it for at least a month since it's almost 100 stages long and you still can't turn off the animations. You really should save the longer games for later.
Alpha 1 at least has skippable animations and a really fast first third. Plus with the way you play favorites and your love affair with mapws the lategame won't be any trouble at all for you.
>>13553854
You fucking madman I bet you were the one who did this didn't you?DELELELELELEWOOOOOOOP
>>13553837
You better not be talking shit about Delcatty.
>>13553869
Compact 2 is only three times as long as Compact 1.
>>13553891
Dead end rolling my eyes.
>>13553645
>excuse
Don't worry, we don't need an excuse to hate an unfinished game.
>>13553808
Almost the end of the game, I'm guessing? >>13553863
The punch is my favorite move, anon.
What SRW series besides Wing would make a good Seigi game?
>>13553639
>S-s-s-stop hating on Z3!
>What was so good about it then?
>Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>13553915
Actually finished replaying it last week. I forgot to take a pic before the final stage for the Ace Pilots. I remember it was Combattler V first, then Tallgeese 3 and then Rushbird.
>>13553915
I beat it a couple years ago, but it still bugs me.
Straybird and everything about it is super cool though, I just wish Rushbird had the same level of love going on with its moveset.
>>13553922
Linebarrels.
>>13553571
Wait, wasn't Great General of Darkness supposed to be Hades reborn anyways?
>>13553796
If that's the case, I'd love to see the Google Translate you're using.
I forgot that early SRW have this thing where you can't melee attack air units if you can't fly yourself.
Fuck, I don't know to which of my now multiple non-flying melee-centric units to give the Minovsky Craft to.
At this point it's a toss up between Domon and Duo/
>>13553808
>>13553863
Those are some of the reasons I love Rushbird though. That extremely simple move set with no DKs helps to make it almost perfect to me, and one of the two OG robots I can honestly say I even remotely like.
>>13553923
What are you even talking about, anon?
>>13553950
If that is how you normally talk in real life then I can guarantee there are a lot of people taking the piss out of you behind your back.
>>13553956
Uh...it kind of still actually exists.
I distinctively remember BX being really random and pissy about it like Gorg's weakest attack simply being unable to target aerial enemies.
>>13553968
I'm not that poster, though.
Frankly I'd hope that nobody talks like the way they post on here.
Huh. Not bad, I wish it had SPIGOTs and I can't pose.
>>13553956
The thing about Domon is that he needs to be fairly high-level (I'm talking 50s here) for his finishers to get a noticeable power boost. You can't upgrade them so you get a boost based on levels. And even though 64 has level scaling, I only managed low-40s playing normally.
>>13553956
>I don't know to which of my now multiple non-flying melee-centric units to give the Minovsky Craft to.
>At this point it's a toss up between Domon and Duo
both eventually, but like the other guy said feed domon kills. he wrecks the bosses shit late game, he wrecks everyone's shit
>>13553974
Most people do it without realizing it, you'll be amazed how hard you'll cringe upon listening to others trying to spout memes IRL.
It will lead to to a lot of awkward silences and you trying to find any excuse to leave the room.
I'd like your opinions on this matter.
I'm uploading videos of all of the attacks for each unit in Compact, and I'm wondering if you prefer
A) All sound effects from the game are muted, and the background music is just the unit's theme
or
B) The sound effects from the game are not muted, and as a result the music skips to whatever point in the song the unit's attack begins
(See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBa-Gzo6LSg for an example of this)
>>13554005
B)
Gotta love those old bleeps and bloops, there is something incredibly therapeutic about them.
>>13554013
Noted
>>13554018
I didn't realize everyone was drunk already, my apologies, must've been too drunk to think about that
>>13554005
I always like when we have the music play on continuously but still hear the sounds from in-game, so that the song isn't constantly repeating the same few seconds of the intro each animation. Like those attack compilation videos on Nicovideo that are no more (at least not from the usual guy, who's disappeared).
It's up to you how you do it, though.
>>13554005
Sound effects on
Try to synch the BGM to where the last attack ended
>>13554005
Think B, yea. Could also drop the model numbers for any other Gundam units, since most people don't memorize those, at least off of /m/.
>>13554023
If I knew how to do that, I would absolutely do that first. Unfortunately, I don't think Compact lets me set an option to silence the background music while keeping the SE on.
>>13554024
That could work.
>>13554025
Noted.
>>13553567
DPfags are all completely insatiable anon
Of course, the downside to playing a game that requires some kinda wacky emulator like P64 means I can't play it during downtimes at work.
As an aside, who was even the protagonist of Compact 2 again?
>>13554077
Kyosuke and Excellen.
are chain attacks gonna be removed in lieu of ALL bullshit? i love me some chain attacks.
Remainder that some people genuinely liked Z3 and thought it was a very fine game, and this isn't sarcasm.
Now this is what I call a shitty robot.
>>13554102
These people think it was okay not give Shin Getter, Shin Dragon, and Shin Mazinger a Combo
These people believe that a SHIN DYNAMIC SPECIAL was not a missed opportunity.
>>13554104
Perfect for Cucuruz to show what a Mobile Suit can do with it's hands!
>>13554112
Wait what.
There was no FDS in Z3?
What the fuck are they doing at Bandai-Namco.
>>13554102
fuck you
>>13554102
And I am one of them. Benefits of being easy to please.
>>13554112
I will admit this was a bit of a missed opportunity. If they previously sorta-cared enough to give us Double Dancougar and the Aquarion combo that literally nobody cared about, they could have tried to do that.
Still, more people seemed upset their crazy hopes for Getter Emperor and Shin Mazinkaiser didn't come to fruition over no FDS.
>>13554116
Bamco has been pretty lazy with FDS for a long while now last I checked
>>13554077
Part 1 Kyosuke
Part 2 Excellen
Part 3 Both
Or is it the other way around? I kinda forgot.
It is possible to like aspects of a game whilst disliking other aspects.
Whether you believe the good outweighs the bad is up to you individually.
Personally, there were a lot of dissapointing revelations about Z3 for me.
On the other hand there was a lot of really cool stuff in it.
I can't ignore the problems it has, but the good and bad do not cancel each other out.
>>13554138
No, you got it right.
>>13554102
Yup. Count me in.
>>13553940
That would be the Emperor of Darkness aka Yami no Teioh. The General of Darkness (aka Ankoku Daishogun) is his right hand general.
Things you want in OG3 but probably won't happen :
I want them to continue to invent newer and wackier Gespenst loadout packs.
I want them to go insane with those. Like Neo Zeong insane.
I want them make some kinda Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann machine and at the centre of it is a little Gespy Mk-II M
>>13554163
Huckebein!
>>13554163
playable Cobray
>in b4 FACTORS
>>13554163
Mist, with a shift in story/personality that undoes some of the hate he gets saddled with.
what are the possibilities of banpresto to bring back the capture system in the next OG
>>13554163
Traia Scott commanding her own legion of mercenaries, eventually employing Masaaki, Ryuusei, Excellen and Kai.
What are appropriate translations of these:
ワイヤークロー (Wire Claw?)
オーラショット (Aura Shot?)
オーラソード (Aura Sword?)
オーラ斬り (...Aura Sword?)
ハイパーオーラ斬り (Hyper Aura Sword?)
>>13554163
-More LoE content, including stuff that's from PoJ and later like the Justinia, Deegrid, and various finishers.
-Fewer flying units with B in Sky.
-The Dash skill.
>>13554190
>オーラ斬り (...Aura Sword?)
>ハイパーオーラ斬り (Hyper Aura Sword?)
Aura Cut
Hyper Aura Cut
That's the most common usage I've seen of those, everything else is on the nose.
>>13554190
Maybe Slash/Cut/Blade for the last two over sword
>>13554190
斬り = Giri = Cut
>>13554197
>>13554199
>>13554212
Appreciated, thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrykevOpZH4 (All Dunbine attacks)
Have we ever seen a more miserable incarnation of Dunbine?
Wire Claw 1 P
Aura Shot 1-4
Aura Sword 1 P
Aura Cut 1 P
Hyper Aura Cut 1 P
>>13554220
What's the oldest game with Dunbine that you've played anyway? That was par the norm back then.
>>13554168
deader than Vian dude
>>13554220
It was like that until FF, I think. Dodging 25 attacks per turn with no chance to counterattack, because you have no more Aura Shots.
>>13554229
This would be the oldest, actually. I've only ever played this and the 2 OG games.
>>13554232
That's... pretty sad, for it being one of my more favorite robots.
>0% chance to hit
>let's try anyway
I want better AI in SRW
>>13554247
If enemies avoided units that they can't hit then we'd get J again.
>>13554250
Ugh, don't remind me of that. It made units like Layzner Mk. II and Tekkaman Blade more harmful than helpful sometimes, with how easily they hit 100% dodge.
>>13554247
Is there anyway of making the AI more competent in SRW without making the game utter bullshit?
Perhaps more skills? Maybe mix up their units like older SRWs used to do so they have more kinds of units to throw at you? I mean, the Chiram probably could have used beefer units in SRWZ1, I can't remember thinking about them other than morale fodder.
>>13554250
>If enemies avoided units that they can't hit then we'd get J again.
Let them come.
>>13554309
The Nadesico has 4 parts slots. It's easy to make it unhittable too.
>>13554312
Not even with parts. Just favorite Nadesico, max its Mobility, and dump your BP into Evasion instead of Defense.
That said, I wouldn't increase the Nadesico's Mobility beyond what's required for the FUB and Yurika's Evasion in J. I'd like the enemy to actually fucking move. In W, it's fine, because the enemies won't ignore you if they have a 0% chance.
>browsing anime on PSN
>Divine Wars is on there for $2 an episode
>summaries have the fucked up names
that was interesting. Sucks that there isn't much anime on sale
>>13554474
>Buying animeOG1 and 2 on the eShop when?
>>13554293
I think the current AI targeting by proximity followed by "can this target counterattack at this range or not?" is fine. The problem is grunts are laughably weak 95% of the time.
>>13554498
This
I don't like handhelds throwing current HP into that formula though
It could be like:
Battleship if it's in range and there are no other targets inbetween the grunt and the ship > Nearest unit that can't counterattack if possible > Nearest target, if multiple are in range randomly pick one
And then slight variations if they're grunts that rush in or hang back and shoot. The ship targeting one is important because it might actually put you at risk of a game over for once but still easy enough ti protect the ship.
Grunts having combo attacks like the Barolls did could be useful but dear god I hope their ODE System never rears its ugly head again. The new Command thing in Z3 is an okay way to handle it if enemies weren't so accurate in the first place, especially bosses. It should only apply if they're within range of the command unit unit, like a leadership aura.
Ranged grunts with Hit&Away might be neat.
>>13553484
I play it on 6ZoneSpace
>>13554546
Easy enough to protect the ship*
Bartolls*
>>13554546
Ship rushing might be a problem if the ship in question is like J/BX Nadesico.
>>13554615
That's why I added being able to keep units between your ship and the enemies to force them to target stuff besides the ship
plus that'd make luring enemies in for Gravity Blast style MAPs super easy just by leaving a gap in your forces
The simplest solution is just to have the AI target whoever is easiest to kill, of course if everything is invincible then that is a problem with your fucking game balancing to begin with.
>>13554647
That again leads to the problem of targeting based on hitrate.
>>13554647
That practically happened in J.
The AI would attack based on mobility and the only units that would ever get targeted were Nadesico, Mazinkaiser, and Granteed.
And they would still miss each time or do piss poor damage.
>>13554657
Give enemies busted hit and/or damage depending of the unit they're attacking then
>>13554190
-Not Sword
-Sword Throw
-Sword
-Sword (Hard)
-Sword (Hardest)
And occasionally
-Two Swords (Combination)
TAISOU IS VOICED BY FUCKING WAKAMOTO HOW DID I NOT NOTICE THIS BEFORE DEAR GOD AM I RETARDED
>>13554661
Actually it was lowest mobility followed by lowest armor
So battleships, Dancouga, and the Choudenji Bros
>>13554686
10 out of fucking 10.
>>13554657
>>13554661
Well like I said, it's a fucking problem with your game design to begin with if everything that can be hit take virtually nothing and everything else can't be hit full stop.
>>13554701
On a no upgrade run that's not a problem, and the games are usually completeable with no upgrades so I assume they balance around that. And then add upgrades because being OP as shit by the end of the game is more fun.
>>13554709
>On a no upgrade run that's not a problem
Issue is that is backwards as hell.
Why design the game around no upgrades in a game where you can modularly upgrade units. It's non-sensical to introduce a feature and give you nothing to use it against.
>>13554190
Aura Slash babyyyy
>>13554715
For me, the base values are there to give you an indication of how high they'll be when they're maxed-out. I'm really fucking paranoid and autistic about hitrates and damage so I want the enemies to not be able to hit me, and I want them to die in as few hits as possible.
Hey guys whose you're favourite OG? Mine is Kyosuke!
>>13554715
Because it's an optional challenge you can choose to take on. Like playing a stealth game without ever being spotted or killing anyone.
>>13554715
The game is BEATABLE with no upgrades but that doesn't mean it's balanced around it
Like how a game might be beatable on hardmode where everything becomes a bullet sponge but it's not the intendes way to play, which would be on Normal.
>>13554736Ryoto
Fight me.
>>13554746
Intended*
>>13554715
The problem with balancing around upgrades is that you don't know the player's preferences and chances are there might be a situation where the game could be impossible to beat because player x didn't upgrade unit y enough.
Its much easier to use no upgrades as a baseline difficulty and scale up/down depending on how hard the game is.
>>13554489
I was bored
>>13554757
>there might be a situation where the game could be impossible to beat because player x didn't upgrade unit y enough.
Which is how the Fafner secret works in K. Unless you've jacked up Shouko's stats on a previous playthrough, she needs weapon upgrades to cause enough damage to the Festum.
The other thing is that by playing with upgrades you're more likely to get SR Points, which shifts the game to a harder difficulty
>>13554767
There's a difference between a secret and mandatory progression.
Needing upgrades or what's not is acceptable for a secret or optional objective, not something that's mandatory.
>>13554767
I remember that, it was pretty high upgrading, too. Something like a full five bars?
>>13554773
5 bars is enough to just barely make it. Max weapons is for consistency.
>>13554757
And that is why you have difficulty modes, it's literally something that has been done since time immemorial and it adds replay value if you simply switch up rewards for doing so and you please both audiences.
>>13554767
>Which is how the Fafner secret works in K. Unless you've jacked up Shouko's stats on a previous playthrough, she needs weapon upgrades to cause enough damage to the Festum.
I can call bullshit on that since I did a no upgrade run in K and got all secrets possible in a single run. You just needed a crit or two which is easy enough to fish for in a game which has optimized save scumming.
>>13554779
SRW should have a selectable difficulty level on top of the 2 or 3 difficulties for SR point acquisition.
>>13554779
And SRW does have difficulty modes, if you don't give a shit about SR Points it's easy to stay on Easy or Normal
>>13554789
Its possible on a NG+ but not a fresh run. The Sphinx Type is too durable for Shouko to pull it off in time.
>>13554792
Well there's EX Hard
>>13554802
I was thinking more along the lines of combining how FMW had difficulty levels with J and W letting you select how many additional upgrades enemies have (because by default they go from 0 to 4 or 5 as the game progresses).
>>13554838
It'd be great if there was some way to implement accuracy as a mech stat, like in more recent games. That would solve a lot of J and W's issues. Evasion decay might work, too, giving the enemies a reason to attack things like Layzner and Tekkaman Blade.
>>13554838
I want to play the entire series on Hard/Lunatic but 1 is just so archaic.
>>13554861
You can make a pseudo accuracy stat in J by asming mobility or at the very least a portion of it as part of the accuracy formula.
>>13554794
None of the portable SRW's besides OG1/2 (post game) have ever had difficulty modes. SR Points have been purely exclusive to the OG, @ and Z games.
>>13554668
Oh so like the end units of D? Where Amuro in Hi Nu still only has like 50/50 dodge?
>>13554838
>I was thinking more along the lines of combining how FMW had difficulty levels
FMW did far more than simply upping the upgrade levels though, it also had AI and enemy deployment formations changes. Also bosses as well as some stronger mooks would use their spirit pools.
>>13554875
>I want to play the entire series on Hard/Lunatic but 1 is just so archaic.
You can skip to 2 if you want and simply read a LP of the first game to catch up on the plot which isn't much other than..
>muh EoSD
>muh Sakuya
>muh hinting of future plots
>>13554914
I've played all 3 games already. I just want to get the transfer bonuses like Marisa/Alice having better friendship bonuses and the free upgrade bar on the EOSD units.
>>13554923
Ah that is right the bonuses didn't transfer if you didn't have the corresponding difficulty mode save file. Though at least by the third game they let you change routes as long you beat the game.
>>13554941
There's also some silly choices that I made on my first run that I want to change as well. Although at this point, I think I'll just do it on Normal again and save Hard for Complete Box or whatever they want to call the all 4 games in one version.
>>13554905
Sure. Just make it so that the player will get absolutely destroyed if he doesn't mind his positioning and deploys too many of the same type of unit
>>13554968
And ban SP Regen so you can't spam Alert every turn
>>13554986
Or give certain enemies an ability that ignores Alert
>>13555001
Alcaid had that, didn't do him much good.
>>13554986
I actually think FMW had a more clever solution to the SP regen abuse thing, there was one buyable pilot skill you could get there called 'Extend' which I don't believe has had a SRW incarnaiton.
Basically what it did was upon reaching 150 power/morale you'd instantly regen 20% of your total SP. It acted as a useful buffer allowing you to throw up a early focus or alert during mook sweeping whilst avoiding cutting into your SP pool for boss fighting later. But because of the requirement it only worked for the early/mid game making it tough to abuse.
>>13554968
>>13554986
>>13555001
Hey I know!
Let's bring FORCED EVASION into SRW!
No more one-shotting bosses or mooks.
Ever.
>>13555023
We already had that. It was the Dummy system.
>>13555023
So smart enemies using what'd best keep them alive?
I could dig it.
>>13555022
I'm talking about giving that ability to mooks though, along with making said mooks really accurate and hard hitting against certain units in certain ways
Every mook is a Zondar Chirico clone with Abnormal Survivor piloting a Heavy Metal Aura Battler Hybrid.
>>13554144
It is a bit dire, however, when the game's negative elements end up being such a drag for you that you don't actually play past the first quarter of the game.
A lot of elements about it felt boring, dry, and just uninteresting. It was honestly entirely a matter of the series list.
For me, SRW Z1 was propped up by the fact i had a cool, interesting, and new mix of series that meshed well together.
Meanwhile, the last entry in the series could have really done with trimming a lot of the fat and getting rid of some useless entries that felt boring and unnecessary, Macross Frontier.
How many times do I have to deal with Sheryl and Ranka? Okay, cool, Basara is here, and there's some stuff to help prop it up and make it a more interesting mix but how many times must I keep doing it
Zero won't answer me, /srwg/...
>>13555136
With Prevail Lv9 stacking with Curse of Geass, and Guard and Attacker. And they start with 200 Will.
>>13555144
Finlander will answer you.
With a fist in the throat.
>>13555147
And they all have that dimension warp move style that Baldios has.
What are some things you'd like to see in SRW? Some rxamples for me are:
>Loran staying as Laura for the whole game
>Suzaku joining the Black Knights
>Gaiking getting mistaken for a gunmen
>Shin Great
>Outlaw Star (call me a faggot if you must. Ship design was cool as fuck)
>>13555144
Well you see, it seems to me someone over there in SRW Land adores Macross F, and wants everyone to as well.
not skip movie, etc
>>13555162
No, Subspace Jump only has like a 30% chance to go off. They have Mach Special and Open Get. Stacking of course.
>>13555163
I like that thing certain G Gen games do, where you have alt portraits of people you can enable.
Like Loran/Laura, and cool Z black Jacket Amuro/Inexplicably Mexican CCA Amuro.
>>13555174
I meant for map terrain ignorance mostly there.
Also give them Hyper Jammers, Mirage Colloid , Variable Phase Shift, and increasingly redunant ABC Mantles (for a cool cape >>13555174
look)
>>13554647
All that needs to be done to make the series interesting is to let all enemy units use spirits and to remove both alert and invincibility.
Also, add an ironman "ex" difficulty that automatically quicksaves before every attack so you cant savescum
>>13555184
Hey, why not throw on Mazinpower and Instinct and such too? Unhittable enemies doesn't mean anything if they can't damage anything.
>>13555184
Don't forget missile jamming, shoot down, counter cut, shield defense, beam absorb, and an AT Field
>>13555189
>>13555194
>>13555184
Also Triple Move, Attacker, Revenge, Counter L9, Infight L9 Gunfight L9, and Newtype L9
If we give the trash units all that, what do we give the boss?
Unlimited Spiral Power?
>>13555203
Autocast Miracle every turn
>>13555206
A bag of chips and the kitchen sink
>>13555206
Double capped stats.
>>13555206
We give the boss all that plus an Ide Gauge
>>13555215
Fuck me I think we just went too far.
>>13555206
3x Damage modifier which stacks with Soul/ Hotblood/ Crits.
Cast Soul at the beginning of every Attack/Counterattack.
Will Limit is 500 and runs off the Winkysoft formula.
Forced Evasion
>>13555206
He's unkillable. You can only defeat him by hacking Fa into the FA Unicorn and then she'll mentally scold him into making your team tacos.
>>13555223
>Will Limit 500
I think you mean 999
>>13555227
>Will Limit 999
I think you mean 65535
>>13555236
I think you mean 8 (turn 90 degrees)
∞
>>13555220
That happened to me yesterday, then I realized that the boss I was fighting had Double Move.
It was Happy Birthday time then.
>>13555220
Whoa. I never noticed the empty section of the HP gauge had those little notches. My TV was too blurry / dark to see those.
>>13555163
I'd love to see SRW try to wrangle together an enemy team like yours to throw at you every now and them, and make them a litle bit more dangerous, so you just don't waltz all over them.
I mean, a little bit more difficult than the VS stage of Z1. Because as much as I enjoyed it, I destroyed the whole gang of rebels on my first playthrough. The Glomer went down once Testuya threw the Great Booster at it, WITHOUT hot blood.
Well, that's what happens when you hang out with the Archangel.
>>13555163
Honestly?
A game where the 00 CB crew are the antagonists for a good while with you playing as the Union, HRL and AEU folks.They did it with Wing in the past so it's only fair 00 gets the same treatment eventually.
>>13555389
The trouble with that is that those sides become apart of A-LAW's support group once the world units again.
The only way that's happening is if we're pulling off another 64
>>13555163
A game with a cast list that isn't ass
>>13555432
The Wing units started as enemies in 64? It's been ages sense I played 64. I just remember a few things. Like Robo Genrei, Shotaro in a little space suit hanging off Giant Robo during space stages, and Master fucking Asia one-shotting a fully upgraded defending Giant Robo
64 was good times. Weird final level. It was sort of anti-climatic.
>>13555454
So far in the Super Route the Wing units are non-enemy neutrals for a bit.
Then Duo and Quatre joined me.
I bet they'll turn enemy if I join OZ though.
