Afternoon all. I want to start reading philosophy and some political science too, name 10 of the most essential books for starting off
>>8229981
There's too much philosophy to cover in only 10 books, tbqh. It's a very extensive and challenging discipline, "intro to X" books will give you a peek at 1/3 and very superficially, at best. What about it interests you, particularly? If you have a narrow set of questions and inquiries it will be easier to give recommendations.
>>8229990
To be honest im not really sure what interests me the most. Definitely Western anyway. Ive read The Prince and Leviathan which i enjoyed. Any books that you would recommend?Id also like to pick up 2 or 3 from the Greeks
>>8230010
If you're into the basis of morality, try Aristotle's "Nicomachean ethics". It's very is lucid and easily digestible. Hume chases him nicely, and from there you might appreciate Schoppy and Nietzsche.
If Aristotle was too down-to-earth for you go back to Plato's route and follow the that to Aquinas. Personally, I think Aristotle is good enough.
>>8230030
Ok thanks for the pointers,really appreciate it . Ill start off with Aristotle
>>8229990
>starting with the greeks
>no pythagoreans or even euclid
>modern science beginning with aristotle
it's like you're intentionally hamstringing yourself
>>8230052
What would you suggest?
Would anyone have a flowchart that could introduce someone to philosophy lit?
>>8230083
Second that
>>8230060
At the absolute bear minimum, Euclid's first three books with commentary, such as in the dover edition.
Start with the Greeks. Read a collection of presocratics, then Plato, then Aristotle. Then read Epicurus, and get familiar with the stoics.
Then your ready for the Romans.
>>8230083
>>8230103
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/pub
>>8230113
>bear minimum
Just busting your balls.
>>8229981
1. Philosophy Before Socrates: An Introduction with Texts and Commentary
2. Complete works of Plato
3. Complete works of Aristotle
4. KJV bible
5. Descartes
6. Spinoza
7. Leibniz
8. Locke
9. Berkeley
10. Hume
:^)
In all seriousness as a beginner check out some Plato (Gorgias is a lot of fun), some Aristotle as the other anon recommended, maybe the KJV bible gospels (not as hard to read as you may think), and maybe Machiavelli's Discourses for engaging early political philosophy using really cool early Roman history for its examples.
>>8229981
http://historyofphilosophy.net/all-episodes this'll save you time, money, frustration, and lack of understanding compared to reading 20+ collected works
Descartes -> Spinoza -> Hegel -> Marx
>>8229981
Max Weber - Politics as a Vocation
Thucydides - History of the Peloponnesian War
If you're interested in political science, start here and nowhere else. ignore anyone that suggested anything different.
>>8230743
Do you think people should read an introduction to western philosophy before starting the Greeks? I see that opinion thrown around a lot
You want something to start you off, these are good places to being but you're going to have to read more widely than just ten books for such a huge field with a long history.
The Problems of Philosophy by Bertrand Russell
Meditation by Descartes
Plato's Symposium
Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics
The Communist Manifesto (or Das Kapital if you're feeling brave)
Sophie's World by Jostein Gaarder
The Bible
The Book by Alan Watts
Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky
The Prince by Machiavelli
From there, go for Nietzsche, Locke, Paine Lao Tzu and Hobbes and eventually Kant and Hegel. But it depends entirely on what direction you want to take.
Not OP, but I find I only gaf about philo of mind. Am I good starting with the Critique of Pure Reason?
Plato - Republic
Aristotle - Politics
St. Augustine - The City of God
Machiavelli - The Prince
Hobbes - Leviathan
Bossuet - Politics (Drawn from the Very Words of Holy Scripture)
Locke - Two Treatises of Government
Rousseau - The Social Contract
Burke - Reflections on the Revolution in France
Marx & Engels - The Communist Manifesto & Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Bonaparte (Marx)
also
Dante - De Monarchia
Donoso Cortés - Liberalism, Socialism, Catholicism
>>8230982
>Am I good starting with the Critique of Pure Reason?
NO
start with Plato & Aristotle, for reals
here's an Aristotelian's intro to philo of mind
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1851684786/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_dp_ss_1?pf_rd_p=1535524082&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=1851683763&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=DSX80P7XDPB65154G0AG
>>8230876
It can't hurt but keep in mind what its purpose will be, i.e., to give you a chance to touch base with philosophy over 2500 years. It will not help for the Greeks specifically, but will get you a bit more in the "vibe" of philosophy, before leaving you to spend months on Plato and Aristotle before even thinking about reaching modern philosophy.
