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"To a woman, everything is an adornment"

I still think this is the most astute, succinct and unbiased explanation for the fundamental differences between male and female behavior. Nietzsche's views on women in general were one of the more interesting parts of his social commentary imo even though most scholars follow Kaufmann's mantra that they were just peripheral and the weakest parts of his work.
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>>8219953
except their child
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>>8219978
The child is all female wants of men which was Nietzsche's other observation, but the child is also an adornment. Just look at how society lavishes attention on pregnant women, notice how women constantly post baby pictures and quickly identify as 'mom' to claim the social prestige that comes with motherhood. Women get postpartum depression because the attention and special treatment that she got during her pregnancy go away.

My sister has been pregnant 3 times now and each time she moaned about the sickness and inconvenience of it all, yet she keeps getting pregnant. Her hubby was fine with just one child but she insists on more. She needs more adornments for her collection. The cradle is an over glorified jewelery box.
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>>8219953
Do we really need a thread to reassert our feelings of superiority over women for the upteenth time?
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>>8219999
Nice nines.
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>>8219999
Yes we do, you R-word.
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>>8219991

That's a pretty simplistic way to view it, and if you want to reduce everything to "they just want attention" you can say men are the same way. Human beings in general thrive on the approval of others and seek it often at the expense of their own comfort.

In regards to your sister complaining about pregnancy, has it ever crossed your mind that things can be both unpleasant and rewarding?
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>>8219991
And men only achieve for the attention of women.

Or maybe things are a bit more complicated.
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>>8219991
A very fine way of putting your opinion, but in all the women I know (somewhat oldfag) their child is the only thing that other women cannot criticize and use in their daily battles of fancy at the town beach or library. Other's input is not allowed, and the current generation's tendency towards "empathetic parenting" seems to indicate that the child's very base behavior itself is not to be subject to basic discipline.

This compared to the daily battle of surpassing others adornments, which I agree with.
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>>8219999
Nietzsche didn't consider men superior to woman, he just believed that women were less concerned with what was true and more concerned with aesthetic.

Just like him.
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>>8219991
Just add the word "Will-denial" and you'll sound exactly like Schopenhauer, you fucking nihilist.

Anyone that speaks of generation and life in such words deserves to be hanged.
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>>8219953
>tfw just an adornment in my marriage
>tfw my wife doesnt want to play with her toy anymore

The reason I said no to a dog was because I was afraid he would end up in the same boat as me
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How about you post more naked chicks reading nietzsche
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>>8220024
>implying she's reading
seconded though on the naked chicks
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>>8219953
>>8220024
>That small potbelly

It is erotic.
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>>8219953
As if you don't also read Nietzsche in your underpants OP.
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>>8220023
You don't get your dick sucked?
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>>8220024
>tfw no qt 19 year old English/Philosophy major from a rich family to travel around Europe and Asia on first class train cars reading the same works and visiting the places we read about.

Literally crying
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>>8220019
I am not saying that women are bad for pursuing adornment as they do through this path, I place no moral judgements on it. While I write she breeds. Neither is an inherently superior or inferior way to imprint one's self on history.

And that the child is a jewel is not exactly a demeaning metaphor, the child is the most beautiful and fragile piece of a woman's collection of adornments which is why she devotes most of her resources to its maintenance.
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>>8220017
I wasn't talking about Nietzsche, I was talking about /lit/ recently deciding to be /r9k/ 2.0.

We didn't have these "philosopher x said this thing about women" threads twice a day until fairly recently.
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>>8220034
I've had sex like 8 times in the last 3 years. All after huge fights that she was demonstrably wrong about. Never get married. Now I have to wait for my kids to be both in elementary before I am out so as not to look like a shitter to myself and my family. She neither loves me nor finds me attractive anymore, though she says she does when she has time to look up from her cellphone. inb4 be your own man, I lift and take part in tons of community and parenting activities without her, probably because she is busy bingewatching game of thrones
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>>8220039
How old were you when you got married
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>>8220024
this is the only other naked girl with nietzsche pic I have
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>>8220043
like 26. I am quite aware of my errors I assure you. I have visions of a noose snapping taught every day
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it's the same of men though
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>>8220050
The "normie" men I know spend their time in pursuit of experience, whether it sport, or drink, or women. The wizard types do everything they can to hide their adornments from others and indulge in other experience, like NEET pursuits or eating themselves to death.

Aside from a few materialists I'd say demonstrably false, adornment implies you are collecting things to display.
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>>8219953
Who's the qt?
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>>8220044
Why they did this? No judgment though
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>>8220049
it'll get better. Don't give up.
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>>8219953
Absolutely.
Don't forget that even her bf is merely adornment. That's why my ex dumped me. Who'd dress in the same clothes for 2.5 years? Yeah, I'm boring.
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>>8220039
That's most likely due to a bad choice of the woman as opposed to a general state of things.
Really depends on who you pick.
I'll look for a no sex before marriage type girl because then I'll have to sate her and she won't get bored of it soon.
Sucks to be you, but props for taking it up for the kids.
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>>8220056
blah blah blah free spirit blah blah Dionysus blah blah I AM THE ANTICHRIST
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>>8220053

I think it's a little silly to presume it's more true of women. Like, obviously you can come to a conclusion by "Well I see women displaying their shit all the time" and yeah, duh, they're displaying their shit. You don't see the women that aren't.

There are plenty of people of both genders that display things for the approval of their peers. And there are plenty of people who don't - those usually fly under the radar.
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>>8220073
I think never changing your clothes indicates a personality flaw, or a mental disorder. Did she say she left you because you were boring, or are you just assuming.
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>>8220076
>no sex before marriage type girl
go to r/deadbedrooms and see all the marriages where the bitch says she wants to wait because reasons, but then wont even consummate on the wedding night, or gets pregnant and tells her husband she never liked sex and does not want it anymore, but by the way he is RIGHT OUT if he cheats
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>>8220081
I think he changed his clothes, just didn't buy new ones.

I still have and regularly wear clothes that I wore in middle school. I'm 26.
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>>8220082
I'm sorry but a man who won't annul his marriage after a woman refuses to consummate is a grade A cuck and deserves everything that comes to him.

I mean maybe she gets food poisoning or something on the night of and has to put it off a few days, but if you get married and you're going without just lmao, you fucking deserve it.
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>>8220082
I don't think communities based on dead marriages are a good example of things, especially considering they are mostly westerners where values which make marriage have a point are completely dead.
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>>8220085
Ah, ok I may have misunderstood his post
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>>8220090
That's actually a valid reason and you'll get annulled in the church and other divorce types are easy to get anyway.
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>>8219953
I think 'adornment' is a shallow way of thinking about it. I'd argue for women everything is about self-construction rather than decoration - There is no coherent, unified female self upon which you can hang baubles and trinkets, but rather its this indeterminate, inconsistent, endlessly shifting entity which has to grapple onto things to maintain a sense of identity, even if that identity is a facade - its as real as they make it out to be. That's also why lesbians don't really exist (or at least not the same extent people think they do) - feminine sexuality is not a straightforward binary attraction between men and women, many women swing between the two poles, only settling out of love and companionship, rather than deciding on a specific sexual preference.
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>i get my insight into human nature from a philosopher who lived in the 19th century
>neuroscience? what?

it's shit like this that will fuck you over in life famalam
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>>8220130
ikr? based sam harris ended that stupid pseudoscience of philosophy.
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>>8220132
Jesus CHRIST he's just asking to get pounded in his taut little twinkole.

FUCK that smirk makes me as raw as a LION.
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>>8220132
>pop scientist

nah senpai, i mean actual insight into human behaviour

go read some reviews. it won't take long to become familiar with the terminology, and abstracts tend to say their shit in a fairly straightforward fashion
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>>8220081
Maybe the metaphor wasn't the best. Although it's probably fitting form her perspective.

She never said what it was. Sometimes she made up different reasons. 2 weeks after we were separated I saw her and asked her what it was and she said "many little things". Then I called her 4 months later to inquire regarding our past relationship. We talked openly and rather calm about many things, but the reason why she left me never came up. She assured she didn't leave me for someone else or cheated on me. I said that I'm adamant in wanting to know what the reason was and she said "There are things that you will not know". I think she got bored of me. There is little other reason I can see. In the last ~4 months of the relationship she seemed to be interested only in sex and not in me. I cannot really tell you the whole dynamic of the relationship without shitting the thread up, but we both wanted to marry and then she started to be irrational and uppity and as a choleric I didn't have time for her antics. She'd never express her wants. All was fine "What do you think, gf? Is my beard a bit too bushy? Maybe I should shave." "Do what you want.". She said she loved to hear me talking about politics, history and lit. Then when the relationship was ending she said that i should know by now that she hates intellectuals. Now it would be pretentious to call myself an intellectual, but I think my interests and lifestyle is that of an intellectual rather than of some other archetype. she said it to trigger me. I think she lost respect because I was boring. there was little drama in our life. She probably wanted fights. She even said that her friend has different arguments with her bf... like who take the trash out. And our arguments are so weird. I said that arguments about who takes the trash out are completely avoidable by organization and mutual agreements. In my family it's like this: father cooks, kids clean the house and bring the trash out, mother does nothing because she works as a medical doctor. "Arguing with you isn't fun". I felt a bit like Humbert with his quarreling bored Lolita.

Just a month before she left me we traveled to the beach with some friends. The friends commented on how close we are. It was great fun. Nothing makes sense.

After we broke up I called her a few times. maybe 3 times (being aware of the no contact rule). She was drunk every time. She also left for college when she left me. I guess she wanted something new instead of settling down. I also know for a fact that her mother shilled against me. Surprising considering I'm a richfag. Don't mothers like a loyal guy for their daughters who could take care of her in hard times?

I'm rambling, I know. haven't processed it fully I guess. 10 months gone since then. Maybe she was aware how much I was into her and this broke the spell. They want the alpha who doesn't care.
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>>8220039
She can sense you have no options other than her and that is unattractive, paradox of marriage.
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>>8220039
/r/marriedredpill
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>>8220159
Naw, I'd rather not read garbage infested with feminist rhetoric.
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>>8220176
>I'd rather not read

who would have guessed
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>>8220174
Is there a reason people post subreddits more often during the summer? There were a few threads yesterday where people just dropped a subreddits in there post, and it started up again today. Did /lit/ get linked on Reddit or something?
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>>8220065
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It doesn't. I got divorced & then things got much better. Married again now & couldn't be happier. Luckily no kids first time round though.

If you're in an happy marriage the eternal recurrence should scare the shit outta you.
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>>8220184
>Did /lit/ get linked on Reddit or something

Yes, but r/deadbedrooms seems like a place that doesnt necessarily attract your typical reddit audience. It seems more like the last refuge of someone desperately trying to save their marriage through google.
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>>8220184
Probably summerfags. Either way, that is one of the few subreddits I would recommend.
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>>8219953
I'm pretty sure men adorn themselves almost as much if not just as much as women though.
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>>8220186
Nietzsche said the only two things that prevented him from fully embracing the eternal recurrence were his mother and sister.

they tried to have that statement edited out of Ecce Homo before publication but fortunately Gast had an original manuscript.
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>>8220186
>It doesn't get better
>It does get better

Can you rephrase your post; I don't understand you.
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>>8220206
A bad marriage does not get better. Its pretty fucking clear
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>>8220170
>asking her for direction about your appearance
>always being the one to compromise on domestic duties
>not treater her mother like a woman just like any other

You are essentially dating or trying to impress her mother (and all her friends) as well, if you aren't a "functioning" adornment then there are others who haven't achieved their fortune yet who will jump this high.
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>>8220176
>I'd rather not read garbage infested with feminist rhetoric.

confirmed for scientifically illiterate
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>>8220214
I wasn't saying that though. I was replying to him talking about suicide. Calm your whale titties.
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i-is that ox-oxford?
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>>8220035
Man up, you pussy
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>>8220215
>always being the one to compromise on domestic duties
You misunderstand. Domestic duties were organized.

>not treater her mother like a woman just like any other
I don't know where you got that from. I met her a few times.

>asking her for direction about your appearance
Yes. I wanted her opinion, because I wanted to appeal to her, while I care very little about which style to follow. Might as well adapt to her desire. Alas, she didn't give direction.

Yes, I'm not a functioning adornment, otherwise she wouldn't have left me. But I am rather curious regarding what the real reason might be. I can only make assumptions on what I think is the dynamic between the sexes. I concluded that I wasn't alpha enough and too boring, simply because there is little a girl would want beyond that. I'm sure she won't find happiness in a long time, though. I believe that even if she finds the perfect top percentage man it'll still fail if she doesn't communicate properly. I wish people were more authentic to each others, especially in relationships.
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>>8220350
Wishing for honesty in others is a weakness, very exploitable because it shows you want to relax your analysis chip and stop being able to determine everything significant without words. Don't worry about improving her either, they just use it against you. She cannot fail in a society centred around women's concerns. Her complaints were superficial, well it's more that if you treat them as such it makes them happy.
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>to a woman, everything is an adornment
>thread
>men are better
>women are materialistic evil bitches
Yeah because we are so different...
Men in general go for attractive women for sex and adornment
Rich old farts usually get some damn nice young broad with huge tits and nice ass. How is that not the same thing?
Also our thing for guns and cars?
To show off something great and be seen, I think all humans at some point want that.
>pic is Dan Bilzerian, need I say more?
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>>8220206
>I got divorced
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>>8220397
>Posts a pic of a nu-male as an example of what men do.
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>>8220421
Read the whole reply chain please.
>>8220258
he misunderstood what I was talking about.
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>>8220432
I would mind his life though
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>>8220432
>Invoking the nu-male Boogeyman
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>>8220389
You are perhaps right.
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>>8220461
I wouldn't mind living his life though*
I need to sleep soon
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>>8220462
>Invoking the Boogeyman Boogeyman
t. Boogeyman
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>>8220461
Don't believe the signal pushers, son. All they have is that others might recognise them, they can be killed and replaced with ease.
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>>8220121
Intrigued by this response, I have a feeling you are onto something. Lesbians do exist though, my sister is straight bout getting bitches. Her attraction seems very similar to that of a straight man, but she aint butch about it, doesn't express it with masculinity in any sense. I'm aware this is only anecdotal though.
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>>8220008
I just finished the Antichrist last night ironically enough, and that quote doesn't mean what you'd think. He's talking about the creation story and reading it as God having fucked up. "Woman was Gods second mistake" because she gains knowledge from the apple, and with knowledge becomes a rival to God. She gains the ability to question God and engage in critical thinking.
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>>8220130
>Not getting your insight from a neuroscientist AND philosopher
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>>8220477
Nu male has got to the point where it is used to describe anyone who doesn't subscribe to the philosophy of the writer.
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>>8220485
I'm well aware that there are women who self-identify as lesbians, and that there are certainly women who have never felt a sexual attraction to a man in their life. The main reason I said they don't exist is more to do with what the idea of a 'lesbian' actually entails.

Take men for example - their identity is prescribed for them through patriarchal supremacy (a kind of 'divine right' to be men, do men things, rule, conquer etc. etc.). Whereas women self-identify through their relative distance from archetypal conventions.

So in early modern society, a woman was defined by a religious context - IE. the noble virgin or the damned whore - yet today it is evident that such a binary is oppressive and tyrannical in not only dictating who women can be, but what they can and cannot do. Men, being the ones who can chose to leave their virginity intact or take it, are the ones who think they ultimately govern that identity.

The same goes for sexuality. It's why there is this obscene and shockingly pervasive myth across so many cultures that you can fuck a lesbian until she converts into a straight woman. It is no doubt true that women's sexuality can fluctuate - However, my point is that the static binary of straight/lesbian incentivises men to be conquerers, to see a lesbian and think 'Ah! a challenge has arisen!', when really there's no reason at all for you to think you can have any real effect on the sexuality of a woman simply through a good dicking. it violently oversimplifies what is a far more complex and sensitive identity.
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>>8220028
Agree
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>>8220571
>Not having turned a lesbian straight with the power of your dick.

You have to enjoy the little experiences in life, anon.
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>>8219953
>I still think

Ahh, I love waking up to a good mansplaining of how women work by reclusive and sheltered males who have barely touched females, let alone actually having deep discussions with any.

gr8 job guys, keep it up
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>>8220470
everyone wants bilzerian money, nobody wants to actually be bilzerian
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yo I want to fuck that girl
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>>8220017
wow, a genuinely insightful reading of nietzsche's writings on women that isn't just misogyny. good job anon.
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>>8220625
I had a friend who fucked a girl at a party and midway through she was like 'stop, I'm a lesbian'

she then proceeded to tell her friends that she had been raped

luckily my boy had the texts on his phone to prove otherwise

it's definitely an exemplary case and I'm not trying to devalue the importance of reporting rape, but it just goes to show how retardedly inconsistent female sexuality is
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To apply this generalization to women's dress, and put the matter in concrete terms: the high heel, the skirt, the impracticable bonnet, the corset, and the general disregard of the wearer's comfort which is an obvious feature of all civilized women's apparel, are so many items of evidence to the effect that in the modern civilized scheme of life the woman is still, in theory, the economic dependent of the man—that, perhaps in a highly idealized sense, she still is the man's chattel. The homely reason for all this conspicuous leisure and attire on the part of women lies in the fact that they are servants to whom, in the differentiation of economic functions, has been delegated the office of putting in evidence their master's ability to pay. There is a marked similarity in these respects between the apparel of women and that of domestic servants, especially liveried servants. In both there is a very elaborate show of unnecessary expensiveness, and in both cases there is also a notable disregard of the physical comfort of the wearer. But the attire of the lady goes farther in its elaborate insistence on the idleness, if not on the physical infirmity of the wearer, than does that of the domestic. And this is as it should be; for in theory, according to the ideal scheme of the pecuniary culture, the lady of the house is the chief menial of the household.
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>>8220630
>>8220645
Sure is summer in here
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>>8220630
My university held a massive conference a couple weeks ago literally called 'dissecting masculinity'

Men are perfectly at liberty to pick at female brains if women are inclined to do the same. It starts a dialogue. stop being shallow and participate, maybe you'll learn something, maybe some of these anons will learn something too
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>>8220039
this just sounds like you married the wrong person, which is partially/mostly yr fault
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>>8220679
Duh, everything is the man's fault in any encounter between different genders, because men are the only ones with agency.

>Woman's a shitty wife? Man's fault for marrying her!
>Women don't go into STEM? Men's fault for not encouraging them enough!
>Women gets raped by hobo because she went wandering at 2:30AM in Detroit? Men's fault for not putting seven hundred policemen on every street corner!
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this thread sucks, just because nietzsche was a great philosopher doesn't mean he wasn't a misogynist.
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so like, is there an unedited version of the op's picture or?
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>>8220685
>Tfw people actually think this way.
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>>8220685
I can't tell if you're memeing or not but if you're not I just don't believe that as many people think this way as you seem to think
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>>8220685
yr an idiot
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>>8220685
The only one Ive ever heard is the second one, and only from people with purple hair and movie actors, so I think you might be memeing dankly.
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>>8219991
>Women get postpartum depression because the attention and special treatment that she got during her pregnancy go away.
whew lad. stick to the humanities because you know shit about science lol
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>>8220461
>>8220397
I'm not into resentment; and I despise those who think that all things powerful are, deep down, sad; but these are prostitutes and this man most likely doesn't have a single friend, --- it's not the lifestyle itself that saddens me, nor the fact that he is rich or famous without any redeeming quality whatsoever, but there's something deeply uncanny about this man. I'd agree that such a life can exist without something /negative/ having to fuel it, or to live under it, but in his case, I get a depressing and odd feeling from looking at his pictures.
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>>8220685
>woman makes shitty decision to drink alcohol and then makes shitty decisions? everyone's fault but hers!

women literally aren't agents
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>>8220776
It's the lack of diversity- if you post a different picture every day of yet another girl, yet another gun you've bought it becomes... boring. I get bored of his life by browsing throught his pictures for five minutes, I can't imagine living it
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>>8220761
Found the nu-male
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>>8219991
Someone went down the r9k rabbit hole a bit too far
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>>8220812
where?
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>>8219991
you're probably a hit at family reunions and with the ladies.
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>>8220019

>He uses nihilist pejoratively
>He implies Schopenhauer was a nihilist, rather than an existential/metaphysical pessimist
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>>8219953
Source?
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>>8219991
I really do hate women don't I.

>>8220039
why don't you just logically turn your children on her
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>>8220085
This, I wore the same sweatshirt almost every day for about 5 years.
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>>8220201
humans* as a whole
you are completely right, but this thread is about women bashing
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>>8220839
you're probably not
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>>8221016
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where's the fucking source
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>>8220054
bumping for obv reasons
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>>8220498
>freud
>neuroscientist

pick one

Actually

>freud
>scientist
pick one

old dude couldn't into empiricism

"what do you mean falsifiable hypothesis" - freud, probably
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>>8219999
I never get a get that good.
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>>8220039
You are a good man, it may be miserable but children are what is most important.
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God, I hate women
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>>8221180
Just be indifferent to them. Women are basically like there being twice as many children on earth as we currently think there are, but some of them are tall and have boobs, and someone got confused and thought the tall boobs children were adults. Would you be mad then? If women were just children that people are accidentally treating like adults? Because that's all that's happening.
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>>8220829
Hella.

*slow claps*

F*ckin'.

*tips fedora*

Epic.

*narwhals le bacon*
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>>8219953
went through entire thread and still no source, pls someone post more of this fat harlot
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>>8220812
>nu-male
Found the red piller, the REAL man (high test), someone who can SEE that LIBERALISM is WRONG, you should swallow this AND VOTE FOR TRUMMMPPAARGGHHH
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>>8221180
don't worry, we don't think about you
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>>8221332
This is no more or less true than saying you're a child with delusions of adulthood.
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Anybody who hates women should realize that it's just misanthropy.
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>>8222279
>women still think that misogyny actually prevents men from attracting women and having sex
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>>8222268
if you tweet that unfunny spiel maybe one of your pseudofeminist college friends will reward you by berating you
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>>8220121
So if autism is an extreme male brain then borderline personality disorder is an extreme female brain?
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>>8222233
>>8220895

Source is some undergrad I screwed years ago. Reverse search it, you'll only find it in chan archives since I've only posted it on imageboards.
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>>8222426
>In Leo Kanner's 1943 study of a small group of children with autism there were four times as many boys as girls.
>In their much larger 1993 study of Asperger syndrome in mainstream schools in Sweden, Ehlers and Gillberg found the same boy to girl ratio of 4:1.
>In 2015, the ratio of men to women who use NAS adult services was approximately 3:1, and in those that use NAS schools it is approximately 5:1.

>Histrionic personality disorder (HPD) is defined by the American Psychiatric Association as a personality disorder characterized by a pattern of excessive attention-seeking emotions, usually beginning in early adulthood, including inappropriately seductive behavior and an excessive need for approval. Histrionic people are lively, dramatic, vivacious, enthusiastic, and flirtatious. HPD affects four times as many women as men.
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>>8220645
>wow, a genuinely insightful reading of nietzsche's writings on women that isn't just misogyny. good job anon.
You mean you agree with it? lol, pathetic
Nietzsche was certainly a misogynist.
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>>8222430
what was her major?
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>>8222431
That's really fucking retarded. The pathologizing of a certain type of personality, I mean what the fuck.
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Who /glad they're not a women/ here?
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>>8222451
Not gonna lie here, I love being a white male
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>>8222456
Same mate.

Women are like little babies
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>>8222442
English/Journalism. She was kind of ditzy and stupid outside of her very, very narrow field of interest (she wanted to be an editor, I mean seriously who the fuck actually WANTS to be an editor?). Dumped her because she couldn't shut the fuck up about politics, she drank the Barack kool-aid hard and the more time she spent around her friends the more obnoxious she got. She was a sophomore in that pic and by senior year she must have been about 50-60lb heavier.

Nietzsche was also right about women in education, women are too keen to please, too keen to say the right things, which makes them especially vulnerable to rhetoric. It's not all their fault imo, it's what society expects of them. But goddamn, I've seen too many nice happy girls turned into shrill harpies once they've been 'enlightened' to all of the oppression and microaggression they suffer.

It's not to say that girls shouldn't be educated but that the methods we use to teach men are not suited for women, and if applied over long periods of time will make men of women. Nietzsche was not at all a misogynist and that wasn't what the OP was intended to convey. Within the first few aphorisms on the female in HATH, he notes that it's all a social construction, that women could be whatever society wanted to make of them. Once that is established, nothing he's saying is really an attack on the female gender but an attack on our socially constructed conception of a woman. It should be noted that Nietzsche's female friends were absolutely dumbfounded that people read misogyny into his work.
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>>8222575
>dumped her

Sounds like you did her a favor
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Engaging with aesthetic is a higher virtue than the pursuit of truth.
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>>8219991
>Women get postpartum depression because the attention and special treatment that she got during her pregnancy go away.
Daily reminder why you should study STEM folks
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>>8222268
not voting for trump is the single biggest indication of a pleb
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>>8222575
post her fine bosoms
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>>8219953
why are Americans so fat
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>>8220028
Objective truth.
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>>8223539
why do yuros generalize americans
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>>8223545
I'm Canadian. also why do Americans always say shit like this guy said. is it because they are dumb as fuck?
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>>8223545
because stereotypes are a useful heuristic
americans are, on average, quite fat
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>>8222431
Also, I have never met a man with a Borderline Personality. I have met many, many women that fit that conditions.
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she's chubby in a cute way, and she has the tits to carry it. wish all chubby girls looked liek her
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>>8223564
HIstrionic Personality Disorder is like the funnier and slightly less scary version of Borderline.

A lot of male actors seem like they're acting because they're using at a tool to deal with shyness whereas female actors, in every theater class I've been in, seem straight-up melodramatic naturally.
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>>8222424
The way you feel revulsion towards everything that doesn't fit your insecure narrative is the same flavour everyone else pities you in
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>>8223588

Histrionic personality disorder is the obfuscated and pseudoscientific form of hysteria, a.k.a. Woman Doing Something Man Doesn't Like. It doesn't belong in the trash, it belongs at the bottom of a landfill.
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>>8223624
spotted the triggered hysteric
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>>8220039
I love how people tell you that "it will get better", "it's all about finding the right partner" or "it's your fault".

People don't understand that this is the inevitable end that marriages comes down to, love isn't infinite, love isn't a magic force that two people share together.

Read the Kreutzer Sonata and either kill your wife or get a goddamn divorce.
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srsly dont get how yall can see a woman and just not see a human. I can never forget what it was like to be a woman around women now that I'm stuck with men again and it makes me hate you all even more
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Middlemarch is the perfect novel so you're wrong.
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>>8223550
As an American I can confirm the validity of saying that most Americans are fat. I get sad and disgusted every time I go to Walmart. The fat people are everywhere.
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>>8220017
Who among us would argue that what is aesthetic is superior to what is true? By its nature, the claim is one of inferiority and superiority.
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>>8223893
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>>8222575
please post more of her. i can only assume she got super wet when was aroused, more so than the average.
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>>8219953
who is this semen demon
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>>8220017
>believed that women were less concerned with what was true and more concerned with aesthetic
Wilde seems to agree.


"My dear boy, no woman is a genius. Women are a decorative sex. They never have anything to say, but they say it charmingly. Women represent the triumph of matter over mind, just as men represent the triumph of mind over morals."
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>>8220036
> While I write she breeds. Neither is an inherently superior or inferior way to imprint one's self on history.
-Anonymous
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>>8220678
>massive conference at a university
>dank thread on a secret literature imageboard that you have to pass a blood ritual and travel the world and kill a man before you're allowed to post on
anon, think big
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>>8220035
shut the fuck up. life isn't a richard linklater movie you whiny teen
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>>8219953
Isn't this better stated as, "Women are self-deceiving egomaniacs?" Which I fully agree with, but yeah, no point in being obtuse. The crucial thing is that they are not just egomaniacs -- and not just self-deceiving -- but in particular, they are egomaniacs without realizing or acknowledging that they are -- unless you break them.
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>>8220170
>she left for college when she left me
uh what, were you both 19 or something? or is she going to grad school? either way, sounds like she is not mature yet, and neither are you (I don't mean this in a bad way, I think people stop emotionally maturing around age 25). and if she's going off to college it sounds like maybe a life situation caused the breakup rather than personality clashes (she wants to explore the world and not be tied down)
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>>8219953

mmm she looks like a handful
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>>8226126
i can put words also together
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>>8220685
all your greentext refers to situations that only exists in your head
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>>8220812
>responding with memes
>responding at all
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>>8220091
>they are mostly westerners where values which make marriage have a point are completely dead.
muh heart

i'm actually in tears
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>>8220936
eric?

it's truly a symbol of your surrender
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>>8220037
one essay by schopenhauer has been popular with 4chan and r/redpill for years now, owing largely to 4chan's / r/redpill's virginity status. /lit/ is the most recent convert
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>>8221332
I think when you say "women" you have a mental image of an attractive, tipsy 21-y-o in a miniskirt, while when you say "man" you have an image of a handsome lawyer in a suit. each of these stereotypes are equally non-representative. probably your real and suppressed experience, for the purpose of this drivel, is full of mediocre lives and appearances all round. don't take schopy so seriously
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>>8226309
I once read that the fundamental problem between the sexes is that women are stupid and men are insane. Neither of these are capable of seeing their own flaw. So, to return to your equestrian metaphor, be careful when you trot out the "self-deceiving" horse because it bites back.
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>>8220085

How? I'm a year older than you and the only thing I have that still fits from back then is a baseball cap, and even it is a little tight.

I'm taller and broader than I was in middle school, I was such a gracile little qt. But now I'm rudely stamped.
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>>8219991
My dad referred to the period after birth as the "baby victory parade." Ever noticed how mothers love to travel and visit relatives postpartum?
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>>8226435
many people's frames stop growing after age 15, esp. if not taking exercise
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>>8223588
I'm an NPD and I dated a BPD for over 3 years. Literally, no matter how hot they are, no matter how nice they seem, don't fucking do it.

We'd break up again and again but she wouldn't ever completely leave. Everytime I tried to get out I'd get photos of her legs all cut up a few days later. Any reason I gave her for breaking up simply wasn't good enough - she was always ready for one last chance, and even when I'd blow it and get drunk and sleep with another girl she'd construct some elaborate way of forgiving me. Looking back on it now I don't think there's anything I've ever felt more guilty about. At the very least, she's had a lot of counseling since then, and found a new boyfriend. She seems happy now.
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>>8226440

Where? In Asia?

I got taller, my shoulders got wider, I put on more muscle. I ran, I swam, I went skiing every weekend, but I still became heavier and more burly. I see teenage boys in the gym all the time and they look like little slips. Did I eventually get fat. . .haha, well yes, but not until I was 21. I couldn't wear a tee-shirt or pair of jeans I owned at 15 at the age of 18, it was like two different boys.

Anecdotally my experience doesn't seem unusual. My little brother looked almost like a girl when he was 15 but at 18 he looked like a linebacker. Come to think about it he did play football and rugby but I've forgotten what position.
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>>8226516
>"esp. if not taking exercise"
>proceeds to list all exercises
>thinks this disproves anything

check your middle-class non-prole workout-optional privilege, kid

anyway i bet you didn't get much taller, so if you wore loose clothes then they'd still fit
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>>8220679
post tits
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Kauffman was a daft cunt

Hollingdale or gtfo
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>>8226541

Oh. I just though you were calling me fat. I am fat so I'm a bit sensitive. 4chan isn't very body-positive to be honest and I'm used to a lot of very cruel bullying and fat shaming around here :^(

It's not even fair because I take good care of my health now, but I'm still dealing with a legacy of years of overeating and laziness. At the current rate I'll be thin in about ten months, but I'm sick of getting lumped in with all the other fatties that don't even lift.
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>>8223691
this
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>>8226309
What did you just call me?
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>>8221064
Freud was a practicing neurologist before he invented psychoanalysis. Learn your shit you pseudo intellectual cunt bitch.
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>>8219953
>"To a woman, everything is an adornment"
And to a man, everything is..?
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>>8220498
He doesn't look happy, he looks confused and unsatisfied.
Why should I get insight from him?
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>>8226693
A pussy just waiting to get fucked.
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>>8226677
Adding to this, Freud only resorted to narrative speculation because adequate instrumentation for empirical study of the brain did not exist. He acknowledged this, and fully expected his theories to be modified and replaced as technology and neuroscience got better at studying the brain, which he did indeed see as the proper focus of psychology.
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>>8226693
no chip on the shoulder there bud
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Is there a name for this level of fatness? Is there a porn sub reddit for this bodytype?

She looks so indolent. . .so soft and yielding. The last girl I had sex with was such a little bonerack. Hard, angular, just like her flinty personality.
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>>8220011
>has it ever crossed your mind that things can be both unpleasant and rewarding?

No, I am an Efilist
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>>8220170
>She hates intellectuals
You done fucked up son. I'm sorry.
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>>8223902
Worked out for him.
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>>8228198
"chubby" reflects this the most
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>>8219953
To a woman, everything is an adomment.
To a man, everything is a challenge.
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>>8220645
>genuinely insightful
eks dee dee dee dee
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>>8219953
love of men towards women = love of women towards children = utopian unconditional love

love of men towards children = love of women towards men = utility [towards pleasure]
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>>8220432
No true Scotsman
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>>8220776
Who is that guy? I've never seen him or heard of him.
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>>8220028
I wonder why. Maybe it's got something to do with impregnation, but that doesn't make sense entirely. Pot bellies are soft and squishy, and do not have babies in them.
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>>8228198
Shit like this is pretty vague, and mixed in with other shit sheltered under the umbrella-type of 'stuffer culture'. Shit like /r/stuffers on le reddit, http://stufferdb.com/ <- (especially), niche tumblr blogs, and even more niche youtube channels, are your best shot. Finding shit like the pic in OP amongst all the bigger lard-whales is the whole fun of it, though.
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>>8228350
Challenge is a little too high brow. Ultimately men are just big children too under Nietzsche, men, like children, want play. But men also crave danger. Woman is the most dangerous plaything, and the child (which is all women wants of man according to him) is the ultimate adornment. And as such the equation that continues the species is balanced, it's not just pure will to life, it's about the will to express power in society and the world.

>>8228339
Chubby/thick or whatever are really annoying designations since there's always some Captain Ahab in any chub threads trying to post disgustingly obese girls.

If her belly has a roll while standing, or sticks out past her tits she's a whale with very few exceptions. I've seen some girls like this with little girl tits and it's kind of okay looking.
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