Is he worth reading, or is he just a lunatic?
>I consider the “White nationalists” allies when they refuse modernity, the global oligarchy and liberal-capitalism, in other words everything that is killing all ethnic cultures and traditions. The modern political order is essentially globalist and based entirely on the primacy of individual identity in opposition to community. It is the worst order that has ever existed and it should be totally destroyed. When “White nationalists” reaffirm Tradition and the ancient culture of the European peoples, they are right. But when they attack immigrants, Muslims or the nationalists of other countries based on historical conflicts; or when they defend the United States, Atlanticism, liberalism or modernity; or when they consider the White race (the one which produced modernity in its essential features) as being the highest and other races as inferior, I disagree with them completely.
>More than this, I can’t defend Whites when they are in opposition to non-Whites because, being White and Indo-European myself, I recognize the differences of other ethnic groups as being a natural thing, and do not believe in any hierarchy among peoples, because there is not and cannot be any common, universal measure by which to measure and compare the various forms of ethnic societies or their value systems. I am proud to be Russian exactly as Americans, Africans, Arabs or Chinese are proud to be what they are. It is our right and our dignity to affirm our identity, not in opposition to each other but such as it is: without resentment against others or feelings of self-pity.
>I can’t defend the concept of the nation, because the idea of the “nation” is a bourgeois concept concocted as a part of modernity in order to destroy traditional societies (empires) and religions, and to replace them with artificial pseudo-communities based on the notion of individualism. All of that is wrong. The concept of the nation is now being destroyed by the same forces that created it, back during the first stage of modernity. The nations have already fulfilled their mission of destroying any organic and spiritual identity, and now the capitalists are liquidating the instrument they used to achieve this in favor of direct globalization. We need to attack capitalism as the absolute enemy which was responsible for the creation of the nation as a simulacrum of traditional society, and which was also responsible for its destruction. The reasons behind the present catastrophe lie deep in the ideological and philosophical basis of the modern world. In the beginning, modernity was White and national; in the end, it has become global. So White nationalists need to choose which camp they want to be in: that of Tradition, which includes their own Indo-European tradition, or that of modernity. Atlanticism, liberalism, and individualism are all forms of absolute evil for the Indo-European identity, since they are incompatible with it.
>muh culture
Here in Russia intellectuals see him as a joke.
>>8194098
Yeah, I might be on board with him if the culture for which he advocated were intelligent. Like so many others before him, he can identify the flaws of modernity, liberalism, capitalism, etc., but he cannot provide an adequate prescription for its replacement. In fact, his alternatives are even worse than what we've got.
>>8194108
Any precise criticism? He seems to understand Heidegger pretty well when he talks about him, and his geopolitics are a bit insane from a Western perspective, but not that far off from those Russia already follows.
Main issue I've noticed is that he is an incredibly black and white thinker (figures, since he's an Old Believer), and this makes him sometimes verge into /pol/-tier paranoia.
>>8194108
>Russian intellectuals
>>8194165
>intellectuals
>>8194165
Literally the most educated country in the world.
>>8194176
>>8193951
just read the french nouvelle droite people, they're far less rasputin
>>8194184
>Russia has the most college-level or higher graduates in terms of percentage of population in the world, at 54%.[311]
>>8194165
at least they take their shit serious. http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-kant-shooting-idUSBRE98F0DI20130916
>>8193951
Huh. You know...He actually seems pretty based.
>>8194188
and?
is that why it's doing so well?
>>8194205
No, that would probably be due to sanctions.
>>8194212
>le sanctions meme
country was going down the shitter before the sanctions were implemented
>>8194188
to be fair, most russian diplomas aren't worth shit and a lot of people end up in a completely different job than what they actually studied. an average russian student is less specialized than for example a german one. but where they really shine are their doctorates and professors. a western phd would be only half of what it would take to become a russian doctor in any science.
>>8194197
Damn, shit just got metaphysic
>>8194216
Not at all, it was actually improving pretty rapidly.
>>8194230
lmao
>>8193951
Some of what he says sounds pretty reasonable. But it sounds like his real enemy is economic neoliberalism, not social liberalism. They're really quite different, and it's dumb to lump them together as though they're two sides of the same coin.
>>8194230
while oil prices were still high. they should've invested that money they made to modernize other parts of their economy, but thinking only in short terms is a very russian problem.
>>8193951
Nations aren't bourgeois, though you could argue that modern state nationalism is. However, nations have existed inside and outside empires forever, one good example being Israel. The Hebrews were nomads united by religion, then founded an independent nation state for their tribe, then their Jewish kingdom was annexed by the Roman Empire, then they became a diasporic nation again united by a tight-knit culture and religion, and now they have a modern nation state. If anything, wouldn't empires be the precursor to globalism?
>>8193951
>But when they attack immigrants, Muslims
He is a defensor of a different version of the melting pot, a trad melting pot.
Don't take him seriously.
He loves Brazil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4_3H8VVdkc
>>8194263
is he a cuck posing as an anti-cuck?
>>8194197
>such discussions rarely end in shootings
>rarely end in shootings
>rarely
>>8194262
Their identity was completely defined by their religion, please look back at the paragraph in question
>a bourgeois concept concocted as a part of modernity in order to destroy traditional societies (empires) and religions
Ancient Israel would fall under a state defined by religion. He's talking about modernist nationalism.
>>8194202
based... but not quite as based as based milo
>>8194277
some russian friends of mine, who work as teachers and professors in universities, go once a year to a dacha in the countryside of st. petersburg to get drunk and have fun. last year two of them had an actual fight over greek grammar.
>>8194301
rarely implies that they do happen
I'd love to live in a society where fighting over greek grammar was at least a possibility.
>>8194197
Just think of the lives that could have spared if he had just written a more coherent book
>>8194286
>a state defined by religion
But how is this not a nation?
>>8194425
It might be in the ancient sense, but not the modernist Western sense, which is mainly linguistic, not religious.
>>8194533
What's the difference? Jews have a shared linguistic identity also
>>8194551
No, most stopped speaking Hebrew after the captivity. Aramaic and Greek replaced it. Hebrew didn't become a dialectic of much common conversion until the establishment of the modern state of Israel. In fact, the oldest recorded translation in the world is that of the Old Testament into Greek for Jews who couldn't understand Hebrew.
>>8194564
*dialect
>>8193951
>must
>not in context of "to achieve x one must"
Stopped reading there tbhq
>>8193951
>identity politics
What a fag.
>>8194707
Because their entire language (and thus, understanding) is based on memes.
Although I find the cuck phenomenon more interesting. It's really remarkable how strongly and consistently thoughts of cuckolding must be present in their minds. They can make almost any issue revolve around it.
>>8194707
"Based" means disregard for negative reaction or judgement, so of course they would use it a lot to describe lucid expression of controversial opinions.
>>8194711
So could Shakespeare.
>>8194711
Their entire worldview revolves around
>Hating black people
>Hating women
>Odd conceptions of masculinity
>Desired feelings of superiority.
The idea that cuckolds are a thing as far as they're concerned validates everything they believe. Black people are animalistic brutes. Women are cheating deceivers. Yet at the same time all the submission and humiliation involved for the cuckold is an absolute perversion of their beliefs, thus anyone who is against them must be one despite the fact that it is the kind of people on /pol/ who are the kind of people cuckold porn seeks to market to.
>>8194713
I'm pretty sure "based" means high on crack.
>>8194725
banal armchair analysis
>>8194750
banal armchair analysis.
>>8193951
alexander dugin is complete trash, part of the infantile climate that's causing the collapse of russia
>>8194732
Are you fucking kidding me? Based is a lifestyle you fucking loser. Be kind to others, treat others how you want to be treated, be respectful of nature, be at peace.
>>8194732
hahaha.
that is freebasing that you are probably thinking of. way different bro.
>>8194950
>based
>meaning "Be kind to others, treat others how you want to be treated, be respectful of nature, be at peace."
Holy shit are you 15?
>>8193951
He thinks clearly. Thanks for introducing him to me. I don't see how people can deny what he said. Others have been saying this for years now.
Quick /lit/, who are some other at least kinda smart/erudite anti-liberalist thinkers? I only know Dugin Evola and Spengler
>>8195010
sniffman
>>8195010
>>8194707
They all secretly love Lil B
>>8195007
Based does not come from freebasing. The term is entirely different. Based is the philosophy of life Lil B has gifted us with, its how to achieve true inner peace with the world around you, and how to respect other people.
>>8195049
Yes but Lil B derived it as a jovial way of embracing the hate directed at his image. It's all about positivity, but the roots of the term lie in crack.
>>8195055
Lil B does not do crack you fucking hooligan piece of shit
>>8195058
I didn't say that.
>>8195065
Good.
>I'm superior to ethno-nationalists because I have a bit of philosophical foundation behind my writing
Ivory-tower nationalism
>>8195058
I didn't say that.
But the image of Lil B is very different to the actual person behind the performance or indeed even the message of the music.
>>8195091
Stop defaming Lil B's name with your vile lies
>>8193951
Read Nick Land instead. His perspective is at a completely different point in the spectrum, but what he has to say on White Nationalism is really quite fascinating to say the least
>>8195017
Fr. Seraphim
my nigga...
>>8193951
Nah, anyone who thinks globalism can be stopped is a fool. It's like trying to stop the ocean or the wind. And all that shit is pretty spooky imo.
>>8194265
Yes, he's an entrist.
And by observing right wing movements nowadays, I think he achieved his purpose.
The absolute madman literally invented commie-nazis.
>>8194108
Note here that "intellectual" is a codeword for jewish, gay, westernized bootlicking cocksucker.
>>8197436
note here that "anon" is a codeword for cuck.
