The fact that religion has failed to prevent violence or prevent itself from promoting violence itself for thousands of years, proves that religion has failed.
>>8176171
The point of religion isn't one thing because religion isn't a single entity.
The point of Christianity also isn't the absence of war and the point of Islam is largely conquest.
>>8176188
"the point of christianity isn't the absence of war and the point of islam is conquest" then they're intentionally divisive and destructive and a failured brainwashing experiment. Yes, when you put it that way they're no less of a failure.
>>8176198
failed*
>>8176198
Your assertions don't have any foundation.
Why are they intentional brainwashing?
Are they even destructive?
How are they an experiment?
Where did they fail?
Which religion are we even talking about?
>>8176213
>Your assertions don't have any foundation.
>Why are they intentional brainwashing?
Telling people a bunch of things instead of making them think for themselves and often times not basing or questioning anything that comes outside of their beliefs that contradicts their religious beliefs.
>Are they even destructive?
Yes.
>How are they an experiment?
It's a theory, but religion is a plan to control a lot of people, through a sort of singular hive mind mentality. It's been based on the same text for 2000+ years.
>Where did they fail?
Religion not only promotes hatred and violence, but it in no way prevents itself from it's follow's exhibiting these behaviors, nor has it achieved any grander goal. It has failed.
>Which religion are we even talking about?
All religion.
>>8176247
This is quite a meme achievement, well done.
Your meme game is on point.
>>8176171
Science hasn't stopped it either. If anything, it just made it easier for us to kill each other.
Violence is in human nature, just like any animal.
>>8176337
Science isn't a belief system and it doesn't promise anything. Science is only a tool that's used for measuring the universe and discovering things. The fact that you're ignorant of that or just willfully ignoring shows that you're exactly what you appear to be, or just a troll.
>>8176348
>Religion is not also just a tool
Science and religion are the same "my truth is better than yours" idea playing out over and over again.
>>8176369
There's literally nothing to say to this, not because you're right, but because if you actually believe that you're a supreme idiot and there's nothing else I can say to you that could change your convictions. I've seen people like you, in fact there's billions of people like you who think the same way.
>>8176348
>Science isn't a belief system
tell that to most militant atheists.
>>8176391
It is a belief system because it rests on axioms.
But it isn't a religion because it has no official dogma.
The fact that bridges have failed to prevent people from falling into rivers or prevent themselves from being used as a platform to jump into rivers for thousands of years, proves that bridges have failed.
>>8176544
A world without bridges is a better world.
>>8176401
>it has no official dogma.
>>8176561
t. nip
Pharisees were condemned by Jesus, bro.
>>8176198
yes, this is obvious
Get with the times, the new hot brainwashing experiment is secular liberalism.
Its also failing, by the looks of it
>>8176842
Time for secular fascism
>>8176936
time for a New International
>>8176247
If that isn't its goal (the removal of violence) then how has it failed at it? + Why should religion be judged on violence? Why not the amount of cheese in the world or any other unrelated concept.
As to achieving something grander I think billions of people being religious is quite an achievement.
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/substance/
>>8176198
>he thinks christianity was ever a tool for social cohesion, universalism and le world peace
You people make it really easy to tell that you've never read even a single book of the new testament.
>>8176188
>Christianity isn't about conquest
Das Heilige Römische Reich Deutscher Nationen begs to differ, tbqh my familia.
>>8176842
But this was already done by muh founding fathers in muh enlightenment. Atheists are tired and boring.
