Are there any philosophical writings that describe overcoming permanent physical injury?
>>8118095
Basically Nietzsche's life and work.He failed though.
What's your ailment, friend?
>>8118095
Basically Hemingway's life and work.
He failed though.
What's your ailment, friend?
>Are there any philosophical writings that describe overcoming permanent physical injury?
Socrates' exaltation of the soul over the body.
>>8118128
Might as well go full Christian desu if you want to overcome the body.
it depends on how exactly you are going to overcome it, different philosophers could choose very different ways
read epictetus i think
Well there's a few writings here and there - mostly I think you'd be better off reading a philosopher's ontological works and then think about how your situation could be interpreted through that worldview.
>>8118095
Epictetus had a bum leg
Goebbels.
Johnny Got His Gun
>>8118121
I don't know why people think Nietzsche was all about self improvement and overcoming the odds because he really wasn't. Nietzsche saw himself as an unfit worm; he was desirous of a new aristocratic ideal comprised of happy, healthy and conquering new men who would overthrow the false mastery of the slaves. Nietzsche's philosophy was meant to put fire in the hearts of those who were already physically and mentally superior, but had been brainwashed by the construct of the modern state.
>>8118095
the stoics would probably be good for that sort of thing.
>>8118592
This is a mistake. You described the values associated with Nietzsche's master morality. While he felt it was more natural to be that way, he also states that the übermensch will come from the mastery of ressentiment.
>>8118598
Stoicism is shit desu.
>muh harmonious universe god
>muh nature
>muh virtue
can't get away with that shit any more
>>8118095
become a hardcore dualist
You children, a question like this is an important one because such necessity could come upon any one of us.
First and foremost OP, if you are asking for personal reasons, I would recommend reading more novels above all else. That would be my first and second responses.
But to be more particular with such a case, I would first advise to abstain away from philosophies for just a bit. Save for perhaps Epictetus and his gamey, slavey leg, most were written by ablle bodied men who aren't necessarily "bad' per se for their able-bodiedness, but if you were undergoing such a catastrophe, you would only further harm yourself. As your mind is still that of an "able-bodied" man, while your body is anything but able, the sadness would abound (we do judge our present realities by our past, an aboriginal for example would be perfectly content in the outback, but anyone of us in a similar situation would fall to despair).
So what I propose is first acclimating yourself around novels or writings that can ease you into the new reality of say an amputee, quadriplegic, locked-in-syndrome, etc.
I recommend this little bouquet as a taste (maaaybe in this order)
http://lazenby.tumblr.com/post/34287808709/as-a-person-with-a-severe-physical-disability
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2012/02/the-case-of-george-dedlow/308807/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJVXTKkjsxA
>>8119295
And of course, all of the recommendations at the bottom of the first link will have the effect of self-instilling compassion
>>8118460
How did you do this??!
>>8118592
>Nietzsche's philosophy was meant to put fire in the hearts of those who were already physically and mentally superior
Another point: suffering has inherent value in that it gives potential to increase human excellence. Suffering can give profound insight and pomp. So being injured or disabled is positive. It's just not positive in the sense of "don't worry meek dudes, you'll get the Earth or something lol"
>>8120059
>suffering has inherent value
lmao
>>8120059
Not quite correct, suffering and pleasure have no inherent value to Nietzsche, it is their products that do. Some artists require suffering to light a fire under their asses while others require pleasure to inspire them. Nietzsche absolutely hates utilitarianism because it leads to the last man ideal rather than the ubermensch.
For Nietzsche, his suffering had a lot of value. He suffered from his atheism first, and only uncovered Schopenhauer by chance when exploring for ways to address the death of god in his heart. Then he suffered from physical ailment after physical ailment, a horribly damaged muscle led to disease after disease. He wrote in aphorism not just because he liked the style but because his stamina had become so poor during his middle period due to constant illness, he was driven nearly blind from pain at time and consumed copious amounts of chloral hydrate that didn't seem to help much other than to knock him out at night so at least he didn't suffer insomnia as well. But this constant suffering was his muse, it gave him a vitality he did not imagine he could have in his days at Wagner's side.
Ironically when he began to get physically healthy again towards the end of his life was when his mental degradation accelerated. Seeing as his father died of a brain disease around the same age that Nietzsche went mad, I think the best explanation for this was a hereditary predisposition to brain illnesses (rather than syphilis or his philosophy driving him mad as the Christians and poets like to use).
i heard that diamond dallas page yoga cures all ailments
>>8119988
Coming up out of the water while waterskiing. I stay in good shape, but inexplicably my lat just gave out from the force. Been to tons of doctors and specialists over the last year; now I'm just trying to get PRP treatment done as a last hope.
>>8122853
That's one of the most insane things I've ever heard. I lift and all that, too, so it's even all the more insane that it's happened. How's your recovery been? Why can't they fix it?
>>8122915
It can't be surgically fixed because it's a tear between muscle and tendon. Most tears are between tendon and bone, which you can attach back together, but muscle itself won't hold sutures. People describe it as "trying to stitch hamburger".
Many of the orthopedics I saw misdiagnosed it, but the one who figured it out correctly was baffled as to how it could have occurred. Recovery is very, very slow; there's a big chunk missing from the underarm junction, and I think scar tissue is pinching my radial nerve somewhere because I'll get spasms referred down to my forearm and hand. I've been told it will take a couple years before it gets to as good as it'll ever be, whatever that is, but I've been reading some success stories with PRP in treating acute bicep, pec, and hamstring tears, so I'm trying to find an ortho who will do it on me.
>>8121053
Pleasure has little to no intrinsic or extrinsic value. Suffering has a glut of extrinsic value in that it gives the potential for human excellence through making things profound.
Seriously do people fall asleep half way through MPS bits and think Knee Chi is advocating it or something?
>>8118460
my mum had a freak accident that broke her spinal cord and she's paralyzed from the waist down permanently.
she considers herself lucky (and she might well be), because she's had the opportunity to meet others with higher-up injuries and worse complications from their injuries. she met and befriended a young woman who was a cyclist before she had an accident that left her paralyzed from the neck down. which, of course, ruined her life completely. after a year of struggling with pain, impotence, and abject misery, she died. In spite of it all she was still terribly afraid to die. But death comes to all.
So must we be reminded, from time to time.
Each matin bell, the Baron saith,
Knells us back to a world of death.
>>8123029
Damn dude, indeed a pretty freak incident. Hope that shit is decent enough once it heals totally.
>>8123217
Thanks man. It's tough without the catharsis from lifting the way I used to, but I'm trying to use the time to focus on /lit/ reading lists and other hobbies.
>>8123248
If you want some that profound catharsis action, I recommend pranayama for at least ten minutes. Afterward you'll feel like a boss. The longer you do it the better you'll feel.
Stoicism
