Why is cyberpunk so boring and biopunk so interesting? Biopunk can have a do-over of a whole shitty zombie genre and make it good.
>>8085694
What's the other one?
dem childbearing hips
>>8085685
Cyberpunk has basically already happened; the idea of mentally entering the internet, which was once incredible and mind-bending, is now boring and mainstream. Biopunk is on the horizon, which gives it all the appeal that cyberpunk had in the 1980's.
>>8085685
top tier body desu
didn't the cyberpunk crowd switch over to realistic fiction because we are currently cy as fuck?
>>8085685
you can do-over anything in cyberpunk if you just
>nanomachines
hard enough.
>>8085685
Is this what cyberpunk is?
>>8086567
nice one lad cheers m8 fair play
>>8086567
Thanks, man. Some amazing pics there!
>>8085685
Give me an example of ONE good Biopunk novel.
>>8086906
Windup Girl
Oryx and Crake, Year of the Flood
I liked them, anyway.
>>8086934
If these are the best you have to offer then there's no question Cyberpunk is the better genre.
>>8086943
I don't have a dog in this fight, so whatever man. Just saw the question and answered it. I like both genres.
>>8086934
>Windup Girl
>first page
>"rust colored blister rust"
Dropped
>>8086961
Sorry friend, thought I was talking to OP.
Her face is like Michael Jackson.
>>8085685
I'm actually in a cyberpunk band and we are making some groundbreaking stuff. I also played a tabletop with cyberpunk ninjas that went p good. I will admit though that Biopunk is a thousand times better, and it is really refreshing to see something that hasn't been done to death.
>>8086934
>good novel
>Windup Girl
pick one
>>8087116
You should have allowed me to pick both so I would be able to make the correct choice.
>>8087095
I find there to be a surprising lack of content for how well established a genre cyberpunk is. I remember I had a real craving for it last summer and found real difficult to find anything that would hold me over.
Because the cyber part has become reality so we need some other cover like bio or steam to fantasize about being punk. There's no punk "class", punk is dead. The current world is even less punky than it was in the 80s. You cant exist independently in cyberspace, you can't fight and win the social establishments. The global social structure is unified and not segmented. "Cyberpunks" like the pirate bay guys, the silkroad guy, wikileaks guy, snowden, etc are a proof of that. You ether go to jail or hide behind some social entity. A cyberpunk is suppose to exist as an individual independently in cyberspace while having a 5* heat. Where're laughing men and lains?
who /ribofunk/ here?
>>8086424
biopunk started in the 80s. plenty of biopunk animes from that era and they were usually really goddamn graphic and violent.
>>8086934
Redpill me on the Windup Girl. I read a few chapters of it but was a bit overwhelmed with all the scary things happening. Should I try it again? Call me a pussy I guess. Oryx and Crake and the Year of the Flood were good but Maddaddam or whatever it was called was shit.
>>8085685
She looks interesting
Is the blue nowhere by jeffrey deaver cyberpunk?
That was my fav shit back in the day
Phate bitch
>>8085685
She looks like shes wearing about sixteen pounds of makeup
>>8085685
i would bio her punk if you know what I mean.
>>8085685
>Why is Biopunk so boring and atompunk so interesting? Atompunk can have a do-over of a whole shitty nuclear war genre and make it good.
>>8085685
that is the perfect body,
shame about the colour of the skin.
>>8086424
so, jacked into the megacorp's mainframe lately? did you find that RAM chip with the encoded virus that they were going to release but you stopped them just in time, you and your muscle, who is a twenty-two year old woman with implants and an attitude?
>>8088791
stop shitposting all over with the same image
>>8086525
Yeah but the point is that Island of Dr. Moreau isn't sci-fi while Neuromancer and other metal fetishist stuff is. Self conscious AI is a myth as well and the only plausible thing in Gibson's work are people with gills.
>>8086906
Island of Dr. Moreau, Windup Girl, and I enjoy shitty Joe Ledger novels. However, this thread wasn't started to prove that biopunk has more worthwile stuff than cyberpunk (it doesn't) but to show how the main draw of cyberpunk - that we live in its era - is nothing but a futurologist's kool aid. Cyberpunk's tenets are just pseudo science for the most part and its offspring rings true every time.
>>8087619
>>8087095
Most of cyberpunk problems stem from lazy solutions like "stick a deck into the usb port in your head and meat machine interface will magically kick in". That and the inability to tear itself from the noir stylistic resulting in, as George R Martin put it, Neuromancer being just another caper novel underneath all the fancy wrapping.
>>8089912
>ut to show how the main draw of cyberpunk - that we live in its era - is nothing but a futurologist's kool aid. Cyberpunk's tenets are just pseudo science for the most part and its offspring rings true every time.
I feel like you're exaggerating the popularity of cyberpunk - to me it peaked in the 90s, and the "core works" all haven't aged well at all, they're just cheesy now. Biopunk has some interesting approaches but I feel like his proponents (like that guy with the weird name who wrote Windup Girl) exhibit lazy thinking, all SF elements are rather soft. For example, the whole "gene ripping" thing makes no biological sense and feels like it's straight from an anti-GMO facebook page.
>"we live in a cyberpunk age"
When will this meme end? It's complete bullshit.
>>8091608
>For example, the whole "gene ripping" thing makes no biological sense and feels like it's straight from an anti-GMO facebook page.
How much did Monsanto pay you to make that post?!
>>8091608
It may well be lazy thinking or writing but there's nothing in biopunk that is not completely feasible through genetic engineering as its development can be seen now - including a zombie human variant.
I think cyberpunk got diluted as it became post-cyberpunk and now mainly survives through trash level video game writing (which is an oxymoron). I'd rather read lazy biopunk (gene ripping) than lazy cyberpunk (let me just jack myself in this usb port).
>>8091620
Ridiculing cyberpunkers online is one of the few pleasures I have in life.
>>8086943
List some better cyberpunk books (don't say Neuromancer).
>>8091620
How so? You do live in a high tech world ruled by corporations.
>>8093427
It has elements of post-cyberpunk rather than cyberpunk... but I guess it depends on if you're living the average life or if you're living in a ghetto somewhere with a smartphone. Still pretty weak.
>>8091620
maybe i'm projecting a bit, but considering you post on 4chan i think it's safe to assume you
>spend most of your time on the web
>hold counter-cultural views
>have an affinity for japan
face it buddy, you ARE a cyberpunk
>>8093441
any post-cy recs familiaris?
>>8093427
>Ruled by corporations
When will this meme die?
Neuromancer had tons of biotech in it, the whole metal/chrome aesthetic came latter from less talented authors. Good cyberpunk IS biopunk.
>>8094061
when the corporate oligarchy is dismantled and/or superseded
>>8094061
When it stops being real.
>>8085685
Cyberpunk isn't just about computers and shit. Remember that Kowloon Walled City documentary? That's cyberpunk in a nutshell, and without any computers.
>>8093537
>considering you post on 4chan you are a cyberpunk
>this means the world today lives in a cyberpunk age
really owned that argument my man
>>8088792
>Things didnt turn out EXACTLY like how they were in this work of FICTION
Get your fucking head out your ass
>>8088792
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuxnet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_events_associated_with_Anonymous
http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/149879-brown-university-creates-first-wireless-implanted-brain-computer-interface
Anon its time to look at the world around you.
>>8094042
Infinite Jest
