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>Deep thinking philosophers and authors.

Can you send me my check please.

>Thank you /lit/
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>zizek that low
kek

put him above plato
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>continental obscurantists on the bottom

Yeah, the list isn't biased at all. It's like your education of 20th century analytic philosophy stopped at 1920s.

Sage
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>Tolstoy is a philosopher
>Baudrillard on the bottom
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Several of those aren't philosophers.
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>>8017013
>Baudrillard on the bottom
Have you read his work?
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>>8017018
>Deep thinking philosophers and authors.
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>>8016983
Way too transparent of a troll. But /lit/ gets baited so easily, I'll leave and when I come back this will 200 replies. Fucking autists.
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>>8017035
>damn plebs will fall for this bait, hehe im too clever though better let them know how much smarter i'm
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>>8017035
It's way better than this piece of shit.
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>Tzu
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>>8017049
At least that one spells the names correctly
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>>8017062
LEL.
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>>8017013
Are you me?
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Could any of you guys link me the starting with the greeks guide?
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>>8016983
>Dostoyevsky that high
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>>8017191
>>Dostoyevsky that high
What do you mean by this?
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>>8017218
Dostoyevsky that far in the deeper (harder) end.
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>>8017222
haha you said "deeper harder"
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>Aquinas not the first and the last
golden opportunity lost
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>>8016983
>Zizek that low
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>>8017222
He's the only one that can describe what the deep human subconscious is like to a level of accuracy and precision that other authors and philosophers have failed to realize.
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>>8017271
"I agree with Sophocles: the greatest luck is not to have been born - but, as the joke goes on, very few people succeed in it."
- Slavoj Zizek

>Dissect this desu.
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>Heidegger that high
put him below Baudrillard
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Where did this "Plato is easy" meme come from?
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>>8016983
the deepest of the mall?
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>>8017284
What for?

>implying that Zizek is relevant
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>>8017291
this desu

A full understanding of Plato takes a hell of a long time
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>>8016983
Zizek is as deep in there as his fist inside an ass
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>>8017284
Zizek is a schizophrenic, and that his opinions and "works" are even listened to is crazy. Like Thomas Pynchmeme, a drug addict who writes meaningless drivel with no discernible intellectual labor behind it.
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>>8017303
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Wittgenstein and dostoevsky's places made me mad congrats
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>>8016983
It would be more correct if it was reversed.
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>>8017331
Im only speaking the truth desu.
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>>8017336
(YOU) again lel
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>>8017341
Dostoevsky is not even a philosopher and his thought is naive and infantile
Wittgenstein requires labour on the readers part to entirely comprehend, much like lacan and guattari
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>>8017358
Keep telling yourself that you pleb.
You clearly don't get it.
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>>8017422
wow real cool man, whats ur steam
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>>8017049
No love for Ayn Rand
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>Tzu that low
>Delillo that low

the fuck
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>>8016983
>Deleuze deeper than Derrida
Lmao
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>>8017422
Only an analytic philosopher would be autistic enough to chart it
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>>8017504
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>>8016983
>full of spooks
>no unique one
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>>8017291
The framework of the Republic is universal, timeless, and very easy to grasp—bunch of dudes taking the piss out of one another, drinking, and talking about the nature of reality. Considering it's his best-known work (in addition to the Socratic dialogues and the Apology), it's easy to understand why people regard Plato as baby-tier.

Personally, I think Plato is the greatest philosopher of all time, Hegel running a close second. Hegel, though, has a reputation of being complex because he doesn't employ the same narrative frameworks as Plato—I'm not sure he could have.
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>>8016983
>Plato and Socrates considered independently from each other

When will this meme end?
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>>8016985
OP is a psychoanalysis-boo. There is no point in reasoning with him.
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>>8017035
Is this why you're replying to this thread though?
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>people who haven't read Plato's Seventh Letter and don't know that his entire oeuvre is one massive esoteric puzzle

One could spend a lifetime trying to read Plato in Greek and still never understand exactly what Plato meant to do with his works. That's a mark of a pretty fucking good philosopher in my mind.
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>>8016983
>badiou
>zizek
>adorno
>foucault
>derrida
>deep
I can have my cat walk on my keyboard, run the gibberish through spellcheck and have deeper philosophy.

A weak idea is still weak no matter how obfuscated it is.
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Contintental philosophy is for pseuds

Analytic philosophy is for autists

There, I solved this perpetual debate
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>>8016993
This is the most /lit/ thing I've ever read
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>>8017599
Obscurantism doesn't equal intellectual depth; not even Plato is safe from this aphorism
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>>8017599
I've talked with homeless junkies for hours before and couldn't understand what they meant. Perhaps I should plargiarize them and publish it.
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>>8017606
/lit/ af senpai desu smdh
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>>8017615
Do this. Publish a transcript of hobo ramblings and tell the publisher that it is a lost manuscript authored by Foucault
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This is all nonsense desu
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>>8017610
I agree, when it's obscurity for obscurity's sake (I'm thinking Heidegger/Derrida here). But I think that Plato's obscurity comes from his sentiment that true knowledge could never be captured in the written word. I think that he wanted only to spur individual thought from his works, that's why none of his dialogues seem to ever come to a concrete answer. And it's not like Plato took the stance that "well we juzt can't know anythin lol!", he just realized the limitations of writing philosophy, preferring personal contemplation and pedagogic discourse.

>>8017615
>anecdotal misdirect
com'on son!
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What does it actually mean for a thought to be deep? Can you measure the depth of a thought? If not then how can you make a comparison?
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>>8017601
Anon wants to be smart. KEK!!
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>>8017610
what, specifically, denotes obscurantism for you?

people make the same charge against Hegel, but he was trying to explain truths as he saw them (sometimes contradictions!) in the languages he knew. if he had written in allegory, would he be under your same charges?
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>>8017760
graham priest btfos hegel in clarity and intellectual depth.
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>>8016983
>Chomsky
>Deep
WTF
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>>8016983
Why does /lit/ never talk about Ovid?
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>>8016983
>Hegel so close to the surface
I'm going to take a guess and say that only about two or three people on this board has read Hegel.
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>>8017274
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>>8017585
THE NIGA FORGOT TO PUT HOMEBOY FREUD
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>>8017183
For philosophy, start with the Hackett 5 dialogues of plato book.
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>>8016983
The deeper the worthless
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>>8016983
so apparently all you have to do to be deep is throw a jumble of words that mean nothing onto a page and depend on the educated idiots of academia to derive meaning from them?
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Let's just all agree that this is a shit idea and go back to whatever we were doing beforehand.
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>>8016983
>No Cicero
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>>8016983
Why is Wittgenstein so high

Most people don't understand him
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>>8018822
even carlos castaneda understood him
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>>8018822
because this is b8
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>>8017310
>people actually fall for the "Zizek does cocaine" meme
>he fell for the "Zizek is a clown" meme
You need to get off this wild ride m'friend
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>>8017049
>Alan Watts at the very top
>Sartre near the bottom

Fucking triggered
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>>8016983

> "Schopenhaue"
> That much deeper than Kant

Yeah okay
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>>8017306
>I'm really dumb
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>>8017183
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Fix'd
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>no spooky scary meme man
Are you even trying?
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I have no clue about philosophy in general but I've read and used Baudrillard in my masters thesis three months ago.

If he is at the bottom I must be some kind of genius.

Thanks, OP :^)
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>>8017222
nice drips blus hehe to the
>deeper (harder)
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I feel triggered.
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>>8020257
Fix'd
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>>8016983
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH WHAT
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