What is the Trout Mask Replica of /lit/
By that I mean really weird, obscure, all over the place, hard to understand but really rewarding sorta books.
naked lunch
Finnegans Wake
>>7855160
Gravity's Rainbow. Some of Beefheart's lyrics remind me of Pynchon, and vice-versa.
Ginsberg
>>7855166
Naked Lunch is a bit too dark to be Beefheart imo
>>7855160
The cultural 4chan board of "/lit/" should stand to X, as /mu/ stands to TMR. How is this standing?
It is a modern work which is known and popularly available, yet weird enough that only the slightly-weirdos or slightly-curious seek it out.
It should actually "work" on some level. Beefheart's Americana is bluesy, 60s as fuck, musique concrete (tape loopy stuff), and so suggests all kinds of different directions. I actually like Ant Man Bee, though I haven't heard in a while. Also Moonlight in Vermont ,a more conventional track that follows the experimental Hair Pie (bake 1), with the quiet bg recording in between tracks. All of this cutesiness anticipates Beck's career.
IT IS NOT OBSCURE TO THE FANS, CONTRARY TO THE OP. It's just kinda-weird, and has a reputation for such, which is why it is sought out.
The first thing that came to my mind was Finnegans Wake but maybe Gravity's Rainbow is right too. I actually don't know anything about the latter.
>>7855160
Shiny beast is better
>>7855160
Trout fishing in America, lass
Ulysses
TMR is not obscure, why the fuck do people think it is?
>>7855820
No, you know what, I fucked up, Ulysses and TMR have nothing to do with each other
In terms of the work's relationship to the 4chan board about the medium they are, they're most definitely similar, though
Ulysses.
Both are epic, sprawling, cover an incredible amount of ground, serve as a precursor to a boom in the medium. Both are also much easier to appreciate once one has spent time with the necessary prerequisites and influences that went into making them
>>7855166
>really rewarding
Try again, bud. And this is coming from a Burroughs fan.
>>7855190
/thread
It's Troust Mask Replica
Poetry/Song lyrics are literature
Ulysses is a terrible choice. If you want something vaguely resembling a music equivalent of Joyce, a more sensible comparison would be Stravinsky. Gravity's Rainbow makes a lot more sense for TMR, especially since it came out around the same time.
>>7856277
Also, to complete the meme trilogy, IJ is, of course, ItAOtS.
Why do people find trout mask replica so difficult?
Twilight
Depends what you mean. In terms of board culture I don't really know.
In terms of its literary equivalent I'm not sure things like Ulysses or Gravity's Rainbow really fit. They're weird and long and difficult, but I see TMR as a kind of madness that seems to only incidentally work and come together.
Ulysses and GR, on the other hand, seem very tight and planned. Because they kind of have to be.
The beat guys have a lot more in common with TMR. Especially something like Kerouac's The Subterraneans which has the same sprawling jazz feel.
I'd probably settle on something like The Electric Kool Aid Acid Test or A Walk on the Wild Side.
>>7856285
Because it's garbage, but you have to pretend it's profound or you'll be ostracized by the other apes
>>7856365
True, similar to Picasso's Guernica or Finnegans Wake by James Joyce in that way
>>7856365
I don't understand this position, TMR is actually lots of fun
>>7855160
TMR isn't hard to listen to because it's experimental, it's because it's ugly. Even Beefheart's normal records are difficult for me to listen to because of this, there's something disgusting about his voice and the way he writes his music.
There is more experimental music that is much easier to enjoy.
>>7855793
I wish it were too.
>>7855160
Motorman by David Ohle
>>7857019
Motorman isn't hard to understand though
>>7856282
Shut up.
>>7855786
Gravity's Rainbow is 100% right.
>>7857285
It's true tho
