Does anyone else here feel pathetic for not having attended Yale / Oxford / Cambridge etc?
Feels so fucking bad.
I have a crush on a girl who attended a top university (she was also privately educated) and I'm too intimidated by this fact to talk to her considering I attended a mediocre one.
>>7849870
this is incredibly autistic. even for lit.
>>7849870
christ the infantility of this made me physically cringe
>>7849864
>>7849870
I literally can't express how much better my life has been since I attended Oxford. I went to a state school and gradually became the stereotypical moody, withdrawn sensitive type who both despises the quality of his immediate culture and feels a weird pride for having been raised in a sort of anti-intellectual and brutal environment. I was all set to take my Russell Group humanities BA and spend my life working as an anonymous, insecure wageslave forever thankful of being offered a job and forever too insecure to pursue my creative ambitions. The chip on my shoulder had become something of a wedge, and I felt too out of place regardless of my environment, too resentful and bitter to even attempt to make it in the artistic world. Then I finally applied for Oxford and got in to study an English MA, with reassurance that should I work hard enough a career in academia or within one of Oxford's affiliated companies would be almost guaranteed. I turned up as apprehensive as usual, and the first few days were spent regretting my decision and desperately feigning a cultured personality. But then I realized that the people there were just interesting and that the snobbery and exclusivity I had anticipated was just a myth borne out of my working class upbringing. I've since graduated, having spend the year dining in grand halls with groups of interesting people, dating several girls (one of whom, a petite Russian whose family traces back to the aristocracy, is now my fiancee). I work four days a week at a publishing company and earn £38k a year. I regularly meet up with friends from my college and visit Oxford for nights out and for meetings with my professors.
>>7849895
No it's the other guy who should go to r9k
>>7849898
The Martin Eden-esque novel I have been writing for two years has been selected for publication at a major British publishing house and, honestly, I could not have imagined a few years ago how great life could be. I come on /lit/ and see how pathetic you all are and just shake my head and chuckle. If I saw you guys on the street I would of course throw you a penny or discuss Bukowski or whatever "realist" writers you enjoy, but ultimately I would be able to tell within ten seconds if you're an Oxbridge grad and would dismiss you as a potential source of good company if you are not. I never thought I'd know what it was like to be objectively better than somebody else, for the value of my existence to be superior to the value of a stranger's, but now I do and I've never been happier. People are awed by power and prestige. All I need to do is mention the university I attended (if only for a year) and they immediately begin to hunch and look at their feet because they know they are in the presence of greatness.
>>7849864
absolutely shut the hell up.
>>7849870
>he thinks life is a cheesy early 2000s love flick.
Also, everything in that post sounds incredibly schmaltzy and pretentious.
>>7849864
I go to Yale actually and though it's very good, has a nice student body, and great extracurriculars like rowing, it's nothing like you describe. It's just a regular uni experience but with more work and East coast prep. Also, undergrad doesn't mean shit. Grad school is what matters.
>>7849914
Jesus Christ. If it's consolation, that post would make great pasta.
>>7849890
> I prefer fucking whores in dirty alleys as they shoot themselves with heroin and quote John Green
>>7849870
This is without doubt the most elite existence a man can imagine or experience.
If you are alive today and have not experienced these greentexts you should literally end your life.
Mediocrity in 2016 should be a crime punishable by death.
Nice literature thread my man.
Universities are a business not places for learning.
But I am studying at a venerable Ivy League institution.
>>7850009
Then why do you sound like you're still in high-school, hmm?
lol who cares
>>7850015
Society.
>>7850015
minor ivy detected
how's brown you underachieving proto-washout
E/lit/ism is a spook
So are top tier universities for that matter. Academic prestige is the new false god of the NEET masses. Before that it was Marx.
>>7850015
Employers
Women
Yourself (if you have any pride)
Potential readers of your books ("he attended some obscure college in Oregon?! eww I'm not reading him what a creep!")
DFW = Elite College
John Green = Elite College
Zadie Smith = Elite College
Pynchon = Elite College
Tao Lin = Elite College
I could literally go on all day if I had to.
i'm a female at cornell and desu i wouldn't date a guy who attended a lower-ranked college. too much of a liability imho. it's like dating down or something haha
>>7850030
Now do a non-elite college one.
cant say so, having reputation for being a cleverer or more refined eukaryote has never been much a concern to me - maybe shame of this kind is only found in brighter sorts like you op (as a sort of feature) for you never see a rock ashamed it has not been to harvard, dont feel too bad
>>7849907
That was supposed to be ironic. I found it hilarious.
>>7850022
lol, not even American
this is how your universites look like today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8
>>7850037
The fact that Cornell allows women in says everything about it as an institution.
Undergrad university means nothing, and even top tier undergrad is garbage. Go talk to someone who went to a fancy prep school that made them read Nietzsche in 11th grade and see if they are some kind of precocious genius. It's just appearances.
I went to a top uni and I am so intolerably drowned in rich yuppie prep school fucks that I actually get a minor feeling of panic when I imagine that they will be the majority of my socialising prospects the next decade. Every single person is a rich cunt with no life experience whose parents have paid for everything in their life.
It's impossible to have a fucking conversation. None of them have any life experience informing anything they say, they all believe whatever their fucking sheltered faggot rich cunt milieu tells them, they are naively and simplistically idealistic in all their views about the world because all those views are concocted and projected from inside Daddy's Moneysphere.
The only real conversations I've had here are with a drug-dealing anarchist who organizes labor unions and a dropout who became a mystic.
>>7850052
Exactly.
Face it... genes are the only thing that decide intelligence and talent. If you don't have them, though luck :^)
>>7850041
Girls don't want to fuck rocks in the same way they don't want to date loser mediocrities who attended mediocre college.
>>7850037
I'm an attractive girl and I would never date anyone with a Humanities degree, or an Asian for that matter
>>7850041
This needs to be copypastad.
Cute girl here... I only date handsome men with a good JOB and who were jocks in highschool
Cute girl reporting in.
I don't date gross boys, only girls please!
Why is education the most suffering meme
you know i think failing to get into a good college is already a huge warning sign
i get this question like, what other things did this man fail at?
>>7850064
yeh brah and you see and those sorts of concerns are the mark of higher entities capable of locomotion and whatnot (such as going to harvard), i think one shoud be proud to want to die because of venereal failures
Hot gurl here, don't hit on me :3
I only date strong men who work manual labour jobs, not scrawny four-eyes who just read all day, ok? XD
>>7850097
My my, you flawless fucking princess.
>>7850052
Oof. Failed out of freshman year eh?
>>7850097
I know... he might not even have played sports at highschool. what a loser!
and what if he was a loner? eww xD
I am an eighteen year old girl who has consistently been described throughout her (my) life as an "old soul". Due to my appreciation (biological or socially inculcated) of the traditional female role I have treated this compliment and all of the many dozens if not hundreds of varied compliments received throughout my life with a sense of humility and coyness in regards to my own ability to be anything but a potential wife and mother, and the main figure of support in the life of a man whose ambitions, confidence and assertiveness I will both admire and encourage. I am both physiologically and psychologically healthy, I am thin but also possess those outward signs of a woman who is able to bear children without problems during pregnancy. I am beautiful, both with make-up and focused self-attention and without it, something many people have pointed out in my eighteen years. I am also studious and well-educated, and my beauty and attractiveness is only accentuated and reinforced by my intelligence, with many people feeling intimidated and awed when looking into my eyes and recognizing they belong to and are operated by a mind superior to their own. By all standards I am a "high-value" female, and this fact has been acknowledged, tacitly or via vocal expression, by not only my female peers but also by my family, by academic professionals and by the countless men who have yearned for my affection. But the fact is the vast majority of people, including most people on /lit/ statistically speaking (including yourself) exist beyond the sphere of my recognition, and below the point at which I judge a human being to be worth my time and attention. I simply would not waste any effort on a man who was not educated at a top-three college, and even then he would have to prove to me that he did not attend said college merely as a consequence of his familial influence or the status of his preparatory school. Now I realize most girls have lower standards than I do, but I also realize that most girls, and most people for that matter, live lives of utter pointlessness and obscurity, performing routine tasks as part of a meaningless and unbeautiful life for the sake of appeasing their biological instinct to continue existing. I say without reserve or fear of ill-opinion that I am superior to most people and I do not hesitate to state that I am unwilling to communicate genuinely with or even care about anybody who does not occupy the small, elite demographic of which I am a shining representative.
>>7850097
I unironically believe this. Three years at some random college isn't going to make a shit-tier stupid guy into the type of person I'd consider dating.
Damn, is it time for the weekly university troll thread already?
>>7850124
HITLERRRRRRRRRR COME BACKKK
>>7849864
It's the price I pay for being unintelligent.
>>7849864
American academia is better. You're better off with a degree from even a public school like Berkeley
>>7849864
I don't understand the worlds fetish with college.
Massive wastes of time unless you are an actually real smart person looking forward to be an engineer, architect, scientist, etc. Which is extremely rare in American society these days.
Nobody has the balls to teach themselves anymore, we have so much free information and education already on the internet and in libraries now.
I get the sense most colleges strip you of your individuality with idealism and rhetoric, people in their early 20s are so fucking easily manipulated by old fuckfaces.
My brother went to MIT and I went to a subpar state school because I did absolutely nothing to prepare for college. I did the bare minimum so I could play my vidyagaems the rest of the time. Do I regret it? Hell yeah. But I don't loathe myself for it and just accept that I have to overcome my faults and find success despite them.
Just ask her out, you are not only your past. There's no such thing as "out of league." Be proud of her success and aspire to it, don't let it bring you down.
>>7850361
>Posting a serious response in a troll thread
I grew up in something that's one step up from a complete ghetto. I made it to an Ivy League school on the back of a combination of affirmative action and an athletic scholarship.
My classmates were all your traditional, blue blood type elites. My professors were the leading experts of their fields.
Every single one of them wanted nothing more than to be shown the base and degenerate aspects of society, and to experience it through whatever avenue possible. This includes emotional, intellectual, and physical. I'm talking humiliation and abuse - in bed and out of bed.
(I'm a faggot in case you haven't figured this out yet. I know you guys suck at reading comprehension.)
One of my teammates, an otherwise proper, respectable, and charismatic white boy had the biggest orgasm of his life (or so he tells me) from having a $10,000 bottle of wine poured over him while I fucked him. Another one specifically requested I whip him with his violin bow. Many more want to experience prison rape or some other comparable scenario in the bedroom. I had a professor suck me off in his office while specifically requesting I shout verbal abuse relating to the emptiness and uselessness of his particular field of study. My experience is not at all uncommon from what I hear.
Your so-called "elites" just want to be treated like crap by ghetto filth. Next time you meet up with an Ivy grad, just remember there's a good chance the same mouth that's speaking eloquently about politics, culture, or whatever other topic is probably the same mouth that sucked big black cock the night before.
>>7850415
>>7850415
>telling the white devils our secrets
Do you want to be demoted to Mexican?
>>7849944
It's the opposite.
>tfw at uni.
tfw I don't want to participate in discussions or talk to my colleagues after realizing how fucking incredibly stupid they are; and then I ask myself—how the hell did they even manage to join higher education when they're the plebbiest hive there is. It angers me and makes me so furious, I just can't stand going to lectures and seminars anymore with these incompetents. Even some of the professors. Fucking third world country.
I swear, college is the biggest meme out there. Don't fall for it! Especially now when all information is at your fingertips. Discipline yourself and start auto-didacticism. You'll soon realize that so many people hired at universities receive fat paychecks for close to no effort.
In my experience the only thing that really differentiates those who went to ivies and similarly ranked schools from the other AP high school students is that the former were essentially prepared from childbirth for the prestigious life. Their parents pushed them into science camps, school sports, and various other extracurricular / resume-building activities since they were in elementary school.
>>7849870
Fuck what anyone else says, this post have me good imagined feels
>the it's only teal I just your mind
>>7850435
I always hear this, and it's true for a number of Ivy kids but really not as ubiquitous as you'd think. I know people who grew up as army brats, children of Asian b-list celebrities, mall-dwelling goths and southern hicks who went to Ivies because they had something going on up there that apparently impressed the admissions committee.
There are also a lot of kids at elite prep schools who go on to elite colleges who grew up in totally obscure backgrounds until their parents suddenly decided to throw them at Choate and see if they stuck.
I personally grew up in the country in the south going to a garbage school, made good grades, murdered the SAT, and drove myself an hour each way to the nearest university for two years to do lab work and sweated blood over my application essays. I absolutely do take it personally when people imply that the only way anybody makes it into gold schools is to be a cookie-cutter white bread douche. Those people exist but it seems needlessly resentful to peg us all that way.
>>7850045
I can't even tell what's ironic or what's bait anymore
>>7849870
>having a gf
>University is a finishing school
And even your fantasies are pedestrian. Oh Lord, University means very little, people do not become better or smarter depending on which University they attend.
>>7850037
I know who this is
>>7850486
I'm sure you're a bright guy and you've worked hard, I'm not trying to denigrate you or anyone else who went to an ivy, even the 'white bread douches.' My broader point was that those who attended ivies generally aren't really any brighter than their AP/honors high school classmates who went to state schools. Obviously the super geniuses tend to make it into ivies but I really doubt they constitute a majority of the student body. Also I didn't mean to peg all ivy students as the white bread douches, I was merely talking about my experiences, and literally every one of my high school classmates who attended an ivy was basically prepared to do so from childhood. I'm not resentful and am friends with a handful of them, and quite frankly they'd likely agree with me here.
>>7849870
Mein Gott
the whole thread tbph
>Suffered the meat grinder of state education
>Failed to get into Oxbridge
>muh excuses, smrt but lazi :^)
>Go to ersatz Oxford
>Salt mine of public school kids
>Mostly morons that can't see how they are coasting on their parents money
>Over half don't even take a loan
>Prof says he'll help me apply for postgrad at Cam
>A couple of my friends that went to Oxford fell for the Oxford meme
>One of them is an SJW atheist that was a vocal supporter of Rhodes Must Poz
>ask her why people so anti-intellectual deserve to study in an ancient elite university
>remind her that she is just walking moneybanks to the professors, University is an extreme form of vanity publishing that only pays off if you are dedicated to your autistically precise field
>she replies with an essay from the postmodern generator
>mfw
I really hate the morons at university that can't see how pedestrian they are. I also hate the losers that drag down those who have succeeded. It's so hot in the UK because even Oxford and Cambridge barely even challenge the American Universities. I bet that 90% of Oxford fags would get destroyed by someone from MIT.
This sort of thing has kept me me up at night for years. This was something I wanted as young child, yet I failed to achieve such a thing.
I'm considering having children for the sole purpose of living this through them vicariously. That's really my last hope.
>>7850624
>I'm considering having children for the sole purpose of living this through them vicariously. That's really my last hope.
What could go wrong
>>7850661
If they fail to meet my expectations, I'll just cut them out of my life. It's no skin off my nose.
>>7850624
Watch how rich people raise their kids first
Nothing is fucking worse than the little brats who have been guided through high school to go to a good American university
ffffffuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk I hate rich kids of helicopter parents
>I read The Great Gatsby when I was 16, and then did a Journalism major for four years, then travelled Europe for two years, and at no point along the way did I acquire anything like a personality! Dad, get me a manager job!
LITERALLY FUCKING GAS THE AMERICAN BOURGEOIS
>>7850573
I went to Cambridge and I can confirm that many of the students are stone cold retards who just went to good schools that taught them basic things that many state schools do not teach ie how to write decent prose, how to structure an essay to actually answer a set question.
Many of them struggled with the advanced readings and spent most of their time either involved in obnoxious political advocacy or clubbing in a sweaty shit pit called Cindies. I was always praised by my supervisors as a good student even though I did all of my reading and wrote all of my essays on the final day before the deadline and generally did not apply myself except in a small handful of papers (eg European History 1450-1760, History of Political Thought from 1890 & Political Philosophy) - the standards for being a "good student" there are very low because most people simply see it as a testing ground for bullshitting. Many of them, although good at superficial things like revising hard for exams, had a very dim intellectual "spark" and struggled to wrap their heads around simple arguments - in particular I remember one group supervision where my supervisor had to waste almost half an hour trying to explain to some of the group (*ahem* the women) how Britain's early economic development was a disadvantage because its inefficient industrial structure later allowed Germany and the United States to enjoy massive relative productivity growth. It was like he was talking to a brick wall.
Many of the state school kids are thick in a different kind of way. They tended to have more interest in the subject and could be guided towards coherence over the course of an hour, but I remember reading a supervision partner's essay on Machiavelli once and it was just list of factoids assembled in continuous prose. Very strange.
>>7849870
for the love of god, delete the post
>>7850702
>Watch how rich people raise their kids first
This is probably good advice, but I'm not sure how well I could emulate it without being rich myself.
>I read The Great Gatsby when I was 16, and then did a Journalism major for four years, then travelled Europe for two years, and at no point along the way did I acquire anything like a personality
I don't care about silly things like this. I don't want children so that they can be complete human beings with happy lives. I want them for the sole purpose of having them fulfill my dreams in my place.
I don't really care about them "developing a personality" or any other ideals you gleaned from shitty punk songs.
>>7849914
If this isn't pasta, you have some serious problems.
http://strawpoll.me/7182498
>>7850048
I've witnessed debates from my university debate club, and right now I'm listening to a Radiolab podcast on debate (it's called "Debatable", if you want to listen), so I was intrigued by this video.
This is an interesting portrayal, since even a lot of white debaters actually speed-talk like this too (sans the n-words), similar to auctioneers. They're a time limit, and many debaters train themselves to talk quickly so they can get to all their points. Because of the time limit, too, there's a lot of mental pressure on the debaters, causing them to get emotional and flustered along the lines of what you see in these clips. When I went to see a debate, it was just done in a university room, but several of the debaters became so passionate that they raised their voice loudly enough for several professors to come by and ask what was wrong.
I'm not saying that debate is (or should be) about displays of anger or passion, only that these sorts of emotions come up frequently in debate and should be seen as typical of (most) debate rather than typical only to certain groups or systems.
>>7850763
A personality is necessary for achievement. Blank slates who only know how to follow trends and live comfortably aren't going to have "dreams" to fulfil, let alone the will to fulfil them. They're closer to the consumerised punk songs (???) you're deriding.
>>7849864
I dont. You obviously care more about the image than actually learning
>>7849864
This really doesn't concern literature on a board solely intended to discuss literature.
>>7850702
you sound poor and jealous
>>7850773
>http://strawpoll.me/7182498
anyone who doesnt vote for one of the university options is delusional. it is the easiest and most straightforward - not to say only - way to achieve success as society defines it.
What are some elite /lit/-approved liberal arts colleges?
Kenyon? Amherst?
>>7850030
Man, I've got to get myself into Elite College
>>7849864
I went to Imperial, because I always wanted to be a psychiatrist. Ended up working in a bank. Going to a good university isn't a guarantee that you'll do well in life, and if you were going to fuck up, you'd do it either way.
>>7850124
>[...] below the point at which I judge a human being to be worth my time and attention
You still lost a couple of minutes writing this, huh?
The difference with a “top” college, as an undergraduate is that a higher level of dedication and work is expected.The sole, major difference with a “top” college is that a higher level of achievement is expected. In a cheap institution there are fewer essays, weaker requirements, a louder audience and little to no care about assignement completion. You may have the same reading list and the same courses in Harvard, with the distinction it's harder to pass. Don't worry, the bunch of individuals that do read all the bibliographies, all the titles disclosed in the semester begining's list and in addition put a lot of effort and time in personal activities are clearly more well-read that the normal elite college dork.
To stay concise, get the fuck out, read books and talk to her.
>>7850824
Swarthmore
>>7851247
>The difference with a “top” college, as an undergraduate is that a higher level of dedication and work is expected.The sole, major difference with a “top” college is that a higher level of achievement is expected.
I GRADE THEM FOR A LIVING, NO IT ISN'T
TECHNICAL COLLEGE OF DETROIT UPPER YEAR POLITICAL SCIENCE ESSAY:
>the american reovlution freed dem slaves. apples is green yo. but sometimes dey red
HARVARD UPPER YEAR POLITICAL SCIENCE ESSAY:
>Um, how many sources do we need to use for the essay?
>Are articles okay??
>["look how smart I am for knowing about vital contemporary issues and taking a strong ideological stance on them! btw I got all my beliefs via osmosis from watching Buzzfeed videos through my entire adolescence, and I didn't even do the bare minimum to feel out the vaguest contours of the massive body of scholarship surrounding the critical stance I claim to hold dear to my heart!": The Essay]
MYTHICAL UTOPIA OF NON-RETARDS WHERE THINGS RAE ACTUALLY GOOD:
>[some random first-year essay written in the 1930s]
Earning an officer's commission through a military academy is more respectable than any ivy league degree.
>>7850702
Except that rich kids are more confident, questioning and critical than less privileged children. Those also happen to be really important traits with regards to success in life. You can wallow in resentment and make up your own definitions of what constitutes a "real person" but at the end of the day those kids grow up to make more money and be healthier whether you like them or not. Passing on middle-class/prole submission and insecurity doesn't help them do better.
>>7851247
Workload and grading vary drastically between elite schools. Intensive Study at Yale, and Math55 at Harvard are legitimately beyond the grasp of most people, but you can graduate from those schools without putting in a fraction of the work those courses require. If you're in circles where people go to such schools regularly, you get an idea of what's tough and what isn't, but being ranked highly doesn't mean a school is hard.
>>7851457
>>7851457
>selling your soul to an over-hyped school to lead poor people into dying for Israel is more honorable than going to an over-hyped school to become a doctor or lawyer
No. The academic bar to get into the academies is far from elite, and the academics once you get there are almost an afterthought. They get ranked highly because they have a lot of money, obviously strong financial aid, and reject a lot of retards. The academies are a boys club, sports combine and retirement program for generals and admirals.
>>7851351
yeah the problem is most ppl are just fucking stupid, it's just some stupid ppl have richer parents than other stupid ppl, so they go to more expensive colleges
>>7851639
Keep telling yourself that.
>>7851639
The real problem is that the mediocrity of the vast majority pulls the exceptional ones toward itself, too
Rich kids make good STEMdrones becaues their parents taught them "work ethic" ("reasonably healthy fear of failure" compared to the middle class MO of "lol TV raise my children for me"), but if you're looking for a soul, look for the extreme outliers in any group
ITT sour grapes from plebs who couldn't get into an Ivy/Oxbridge/etc.
>>7851658
ITT sour grapes from losers whose life peaked in high school with their admissions letter to where ever
>>7849864
>tfw people who cheated off you in hs got into better colleges than you
>tfw you let them
>tfw all the smart try-hard kids always asked you for help
>tfw everyone expected you to get into some elite school
>tfw never put any effort into hs
>tfw 100 on all the tests but not a single homework assignment turned in
>tfw no one to blame but yourself
who /top10universitiesintheworld/ here?
>>7851663
wew the insecurity
sorry senpai but kids who get into the top schools have a very easy ride through life. sure there are some who end up miserable failures, but the fast majority get an easy track to whatever the fuck theyw ant to do because they have a piece of paper that says harvard. that's how society works senpai.
>>7851624
I would trust any academy graduate as a principled leader and a person of technical competence in a greater diversity of abilities than a majority of Ivy students. They have all proven themselves in areas of stress management, temperance or outright asceticism, and communication. They are men of action, and quite frankly society depends on these types way more than armchair academics.
I also don't understand this meme of poor people dying for Israel. The US is an economic powerhouse because our unmatched military is a constant, looming threat to any competitive actor. Actions in the middle east not only have little to do with Israel, but actually play only a small role in the overall purpose of the military anyway.
As for poor people, a majority if not a large percentage of soldiers have degrees. There is no draft and every swinging dick is a volunteer.
>>7851676
>plebs seriously believe this
>>7851674
yeah no shit but guess what i don't care lol
>>7851682
>i don't care
wew
im sure buddy, im sure. :)
>>7851678
I do sound like an ad right out of starship troopers. But yea, I have confidence and trust in US troops.
>>7851676
America's involvement in WW1 and WW2 were directly in support of Zionism
>>7851683
>ppl with expensive degrees really believe other ppl give a shit
lol
>>7851690
The point is that it doesn't matter whether you give a shit or not. Things are already easier, and better.
lol
>>7851690
the jealousy is palpable
>>7851693
things are easier and better if ur dad is dictator of a small country, again who gives a fucking shit
>>7851687
I don't believe this. As for WWII, Roosevelt just wanted to boost the employment rate. I'm willing to hear you defend your claims though.
>>7851695
You spend 250k on school and you don't know the difference between jealousy and envy? wew
>>7849870
I think this could be the /lit/ shibboleth. If your post makes anon feel repulsed and ill, anon may stay on /lit/. Otherwise, anon may fuck off back to his chick flicks, ya fiction, puerility, and guardian opinion articles where he can pick up words like myriad, and shibboleth. It upsets me to share this board with people like you.
>>7851700
>he doesn't know the history of US involvement in WW1
bro for such a jingoist war lover u might want to read up one world war one (then again there is a reason they don't teach much about world war one in school beyond reading all quiet)
>>7851701
>250k
>implying i didnt get a full ride merit scholarship + 25k/year cause 8 ivy leagues, mit, stanford, caltech, u chicago, and oxbridge all fought over me
kek
It doesn't really matter, the most 'artsy' or 'high class' girls often have sex with the Chads or the outgoing clowns (like russell crow) anyways.
Do you actually believe you can fuck a specific girl just because you went to certain university? lmao
>>7851712
did u do a creative writing degree? cuz u tell cool stories friend
>>7851708
3. A further motive– the American dimension: James Gelvin, a Middle East history professor, claims that issuing the Balfour Declaration would appeal to President Woodrow Wilson’s two closest advisors, who were Zionists.”The British did not know quite what to make of President Woodrow Wilson and his conviction (before America’s entrance into the war) that the way to end hostilities was for both sides to accept “peace without victory.” Two of Wilson’s closest advisors, Louis Brandeis and Felix Frankfurter, were avid Zionists. How better to shore up an uncertain ally than by endorsing Zionist aims?
>>7851714
confirmed for not having gone to a good school.
trust me you get plenty of girls who will fuck you if you went to a prestige school. look im not saying they're all gonna be creme of the crop girls but there are some pretty good looking ones who jus twant to chase some status once in a while who'd happily sleep with a "harvard boy" or whatnot.
>>7851716
j e a l o u s
>>7851722
Confirmed for not understanding basic sentences.
I said SPECIFIC girl.
Hell there are girls out there that will fuck you just because you are white or have a car.
>but muh school hurr
>>7851722
>trust me you get plenty of girls who will fuck you if you went to a prestige school. look im not saying they're all gonna be creme of the crop girls but there are some pretty good looking ones who jus twant to chase some status once in a while who'd happily sleep with a "harvard boy" or whatnot.
the same thing is true of construction workers too, why don't u get a job u fucking neet instead pretending to not be a scumbag on the internet
>>7851722
if you got into all those schools you are a once in a generation student. as someone that goes to one of them, i don't believe you.
>>7851720
Where is the proof that these zionist insiders ultimately swayed Wilson's decision?
>>7849864
Hah, I dropped out highschool on 10th grade. feels good
>>7851739
anywhere from 10 - 20 people get into every ivy every year it's not that rare.
>>7851762
>>7851739
yeah the elite schools are flooded with perfect chinks, no one is going to fall all over themselves for any applicant, oh wait, maybe he's black and they were dying to fill their affirmative action quota, lmao no wonder he puts so much premium on his degree haha he's a fuckingPerson Of Colorewww gross
Defining yourself on such a ridiculous basis is a recipe for a truly abysmal life. Shame on you anon.
>>7851746
hahaha, loser... I dropped out of 7th grade :^)
>>7851744
well why don't u read up on it and decide for yourself, i don't care if u die for zionism personally, feel free lol
>>7851778
Alright. Please keep up the pretense that China and Russia are no threat to Western civilization.
yes i feel very pathetic. i've never done anything in my life that would ever impress anyone at all.
>>7851793
OP here I did not write this post.
>>7851793
OP here, 10/10; best new pasta.
>>7851783
lol China is a bunch of gay midgets dying from inhaling indrustrial smoke
>>7849864
nah
>>7851790
I jumped into a pool from the third floor once, it was pretty cool though you had to be there
>>7851804
Absolutely true except they're like the soviets - endless waves of bodies. It's a simple and scarily effective way to wage war
>>7851822
whatever man, they're not going to invade Europe without crosing the entire Asian continent
>>7851830
I'm not a big fan of Europe these last few decades. I feel ashamed for them, they're so emasculated it's revolting. I do care about the states, and we're already in a quasi-war. They try and hack into government software daily and economic espionage is a trade craft the chinks love. Cold War 2.0 but we need to stay ready for the real thing.
>tfw I went to a state school in the midwest
>tfw it wasn't even my states flagship state school
>>7849915
Can confirm, all of this is true
>>7849915
>great extracurriculars like rowing,Did you know a man by the name of Gerard Kuenning?
>>7852040
Going to a uni like Yale isn't as special as it seems. I'm not gonna say getting accepted was effortless but considering my educational background, it's not very surprising I got in, and it's the same for most guys who were at my secondary school.
Not really, no. I like to learn for myself, and while an elite college would have been nice to attend I'm doing fine at my state college. The curriculum is rigorous as it is doing a double major. I wouldn't have even been able to get enough financial aid considering my parents make 100k a year (for some reason we're poor as shit and in bankruptcy). There are a lot of research opportunities here I can take up, and the school is very much focused on academics.
You can always go to an elite college for graduate studies, no one gives a shit about your undergrad if your graduate school is fancy. People from nice state schools get admitted to top ranking schools all of the time.
>>7851722
>OOH GUESS WHAT I GOT TO SLEEP W A HARVARD BOY SO SEXY YES
You're fucking silly
>>7852106
even better no one cares what school u went to if u start a successful business that makes a lot of money, god bless the freedom giving goodness of capitalism
>>7852106
desu senpai, you could've gotten a mostly free ride to most ivies and elite schools with only a 100k income. stanford just waived all tuition for families making <125k starting this year.
and an "elite" or "rigorous" undergrad puts you ahead for grad applications, if not in name (and probably not in name), but certainly in learned skills and critical thinking that a grad department is willing to pay out a stipend for
>>7851351
Pretty much this, the only difference between a beyond-shitty for profit and an Ivy League is that the Ivies will have students who can write a fluent fucking sentence. But they're still young and will have immature views on things, resulting in babby content while seeming smart.
>>7852128
Not necessarily. If someone comes from either a state flagship or some other school known for rigour with a lot of research experience, good letters of recommendation from someone they've heard of, and very well-written statements of purpose, they'll choose that applicant over a basically empty application coming in from Stanford with so-so research proposals and no research experience.
>>7852143
thats what i said senpai -- the name will probably not get you in. and some state schools (berkeley, mich, ucla) have just as strong research opportunities as "elite" private schools, but other than that the advantage is palpable
>>7852157
Yes. Honestly I'd choose Berkeley over a place like Brown or Yale, considering UCB is number one in a lot of fields. I honestly think the only reason UCB isn't ranked in the top ten is because of everything else besides their quality of research.
>>7852173
Berkeley student here. The research is top-notch but only about .0001% of the student body participates in it. The rest of the school is pure memery and full of plebs. Some of the dumbest shit I've ever heard has been spoken by some of the more loud-mouthed students. The Berkeley name comes from the research and the research alone.
>>7852173
>choose Berkeley over yale
>literally SJW headquarters
W E W
>>7850124
are u into Shakespeare, and or a life guard,, just out of curiosity...you know whatt i meaN.
>>7852181
I chose a community college over Berkeley; how does that make you feel?
>>7851853
What are you doing now anon
>>7852696
why?
>>7852718
I took the hardest classes I could in high school, fell for the "dream college" meme. I then realized that, first, school like that had sucked the life out of me, and second, I wanted to work on myself. I also got the benefits of enjoying life and becoming more successful than I would have otherwise hope.
>>7852730
Hoped*
>>7852730
glad it worked out for you anon. i dont think "dream college" is a meme, i went to mine and its great. got a ton out of it. granted i like schoolwork.
>>7852730
How's your foot game tho? Cute feet?
>>7852736
Are you in the US? At least at my (competitive) school, the concept of success only being attainable through the "college search" was a meme that essentially forced down our throats. I've always enjoyed things that challenged me, but I felt that everything I did at school was boring and monotonous.
>>7852737
As cute as a 6'4 white guy's feet can be ;)
>>7852696
it makes me feel like you're poor
No. I'm in the wrong hemisphere anyway. It would've been ridiculous.
>>7852752Show me
>>7852748
yeah. my school wasn't competitive, so there was very little "college search" "dream school" talk that went on. if 10% of the graduating class gets into any 4 year university, it's a good year at my HS. i guess i'm more self motivated and like i say, enjoy schoolwork, so i ended up at a top 5 school
>>7852754
I actually ended up making about 65k working part time while at the CC, and my family probably could have afforded a majority of the schools I could have gone to. I think it will make my time at my ideal college a lot more fun, and I know I'm mature enough to enjoy my time and stay dedicated to my school work.
>>7852780
>he doesnt have an 8 figure trust fund
top kek
>>7849864
I am a college dropout. When I was in college, it was a Jr. College in the armpit of the midwest. I didn't party in my tessns and 20's, I worked. I taught myself Linux and programming and read on the side. I'm a 30-something now with a fantastic career in IT, I moved to Prague last year because they want desperately IT people to grow their businesses. I have a shit ton of free time, I read /lit/ on the side and I have a QT Eastern European GF who hates feminists.
Fuck Ivy league. Fuck the idea that you need a degree. All you need is to not be a big baby when you're young so you can have a good life when you're a little older.
>>7853539
Nice inferiority complex bro.
>UK
>my uni isnt even in the top 40
It would feel bad if the work werent so utterly easy
I have never gotten below a first and I dont even recall what most of the modules are about
But there is no intellectualism or drive, there is no feeling of fulfillment, no learning of any kind takes place other than how to write a paper in 20 minutes
>have degree from ivy
>it doesnt even count because it was that shitty red one
who /harvardreject/ here
>>7849864
wow. i browse /b, /tv and other intensely faggoty boards. this is still the gayest thing i've ever seen
great post
I never really thought about top tier schools when I was in high school. I'm sure I had a shot but I had no one helping me at all with my college decisions so I ended up at the school in my state (Florida).
I like it here. Good environment, good people, good classes. Can't complain desu.
>>7853545
I zozzle at you, sir. Zozzle I say beyond the toppest of keks.
>>7853761
Best school in my state*
>>7849864
no, because I'm getting paid 91k buckaroos a year
>>7851674
no they don't, cuck
especially not for STEM.
> tfw go to leading arts uni in UK
> tfw people on my course all die
> tfw when I also die
>>7850030
Hope you realize, just like other jobs, publishers do look into an authors credentials. Being Harvard or Yale alumni will help, considering the upper echelons of a publisher usually consists of Ivy League alumni
>>7849864
Remember kids
Undergrad degrees mean nothing
You will get practically the same from a state school as an upper crust school for an undergraduate degree
Shit only really matters if you're going for graduate degrees and beyond
>>7853838
Keep telling yourself that. Whatever helps you sleep at night
>>7854009
likewise, lad
try graduating and coming back to this post
Because the location of the group of buildings where you were indoctrinated matters so much.
>>7850497
irony and bait are the same thing. it's unirony that you mean. you probably can't tell because you suck cock.
>>7849914
well kek'd, anon memer
>>7850026
i agree, except unfortunately nowadays the only way to be a respected and serious thinker is to have academia under your belt. otherwise you just come off like alan watts, or dawkins re: religion. i mostly blame chomsky for this image, who is academically achieved, and so ready to attack others for dilettantism, while hypocritically practicing it himself
>>7850030
I wouldn't call amherst elite, and he dropped out of harvard. also, jg and tl are literally memes
>>7850037
>>7850075
>>7850107
poorly memed
>>7850066
>>7850117
it's easy to dismiss those who dismiss you. I say this as one who has been both dismissed (by those more extreme than I) and has dismissed (those who are more conventional). human egocentricism, like the sexual drive, is a programmed default. the first step toward wisdom is to shed this default which is a form of ignorance and which prevents us from really stepping outside ourselves into something greater than mere knowledge. read the Ego and its Own
>>7850312
>sweeping statements
Have you gone to college? A lot of this sounds like either projection or a poor sampling coupled with the availability heuristic. The things you describe exist, but I doubt they saturate college.
>>7850815
Quite obviously never had to deal with the real world
and anyway, university is implied in "Connections" which makes it the more specific and more applicable answer
>>7854556
the real world is for plebs
>>7851712
None of the schools you mentioned offer "full ride merit scholarship + 25k/year."
sources:
http://blog.prepscholar.com/79-colleges-with-full-ride-scholarships
http://thecollegematchmaker.com/111-ridiculously-awesome-full-tuition-schoarships/
http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1461983-competitive-full-tuition-full-ride-scholarships.html
If you're going to lie, at least do a basic google search beforehand.
>inb4 I was meming
no you're defending yourself pretty hard actually
>>7853539
i find it funny this aspect of chan culture, bragging about "muh qt gf." am i supposed to believe that having a gf makes you a better person? you're a fucking robot stemlord for christ's sake, posting on a lit board. take your gf and literally shove it up your ass. i mean this entire thread is off topic but still, i think you take the cake for being the biggest faggot in a thread that includes >>7853653
One of my best friends is in Yale. He's an insecure autistic whose whole life has been academia. I also know plenty of people at Princeton, they're either social climbing parasites or unspeakably dim. It would've bothered me a couple years back, but I honestly don't care, the whole point of most of their existences was to go there. It's not necessarily about being smart, or creative, it is just simply they had enough to show off and were trained enough to get in there. I did not grow up that way, and had no social pressure by anyone to end up in that sort of environment.
>>7854669
>plebs go to such lengths to invent reasons why their social and intellectual betters are actually worse than them
wew
>>7854674
I didn't say I'm better than them, I just implied we have had completely different lives with ultimately different goals. Its a lot of work getting into those schools and I'm happy I never had to do it and am not dealing with Ivy level workloads.
>>7853883
oh shit
>>7849898
show your art
test
>>7854803
i think the second one is fresh? i think
>>7852712
Software Developer
It's soul sucking, but it's good money. I just listen to youtube lectures all day.
>>7854895
It's not fresh, the original post had both those posts in a single post. It's on Warosu.
>tfw really love literature
>tfw you take a semester off before attending college
>tfw your first English professor tells you that your writing is top notch
>tfw this only feeds into your dreams of becoming a author delusion
>tfw you take a world lit class and drop it because it was too much when you were only taking 2 classes
>tfw I changed from an English major to a finance major
>tfw I will never be anything of worth
>>7855914
Your career does not need to be your hobby/passion. It often isn't.
>>7855914
>tfw love poems, patrician music and old movies
>tfw want to study english or music theory in college
>mfw I did all the /sci/subjects in HS because english major mean unemployed neet
>I may be a cuck engineer, I may enroll in some shitty state university because can't afford to live in another city
>mfw going to study something I don't like at where I don't want to be
>mfw there's people who actually crafted something worthy and meaningful at my age
>tfw need money to indulge in art
>>7856372
Just write shit every day and push your limits for 10 years and you'll be fine.
>>7849864
I didn't go to college because I didn't want to go into debt. But sometimes I wish that I would've done better in highschool to better my chances of getting accepted to an Ivy League Uni. If I got accepted to Cornell or NYU and focused on my studies I could get a degree and a make a career. The heavy debts would be paid off over the years and I'd be working professionally in a field where I wanted to be. But that's not a possibility now; and if I wanted to do higher-ed it would only get accepted to a sub-par community college. I'd be forever in debt and miserable just like a lot of my peers. I wouldn't want to do that anyways since my interests are too specialized and I'm not into the youth culture. So maybe I'll join a monastery or something when my faith gets strengthened and I spend more time contemplating and not stressing out.
Jokes on you -- I didn't even go to university.
>Does anyone else here feel pathetic for not having attended Yale / Oxford / Cambridge etc?
No. It does not matter.
>>7856549
I feel for you about the debt, it always seemed like accepting some sort of defeat but I think debt is mostly unavoidable today.
>>7850022
u mad you couldn't make it through brown's 8% acceptance rate?
>>7850778
The particular type of debate you're talking about had changed a lot recently.
The topics of discussion have moved from politics and economics to identity politics.
>>7856549
Go to community college for a year to prove you have your shit together and also take out most of your generals then transfer to a state school to finish your degree. No one except vapid old money cunts cares if you went to an ivy league school.
Why did the piece of shit mods delete the "you will NEVER" green text? Did anyone copy it because I want to read it again and imagine. Fuck you stupid faggot mods.
>>7858415
shit I wish I had.
>>7854450
literally?
I went to Columbia, maybe not on the level of OP's named colleges and I had fun but honestly it didnt really fucking matter
Who /UTDallas/ here?
>>7850124
but intelligence actually lowers your value as a female, silly girl ;^)
