Who are some famous /lit/ hermits or misanthropes?
david foster wallace
Most of them
the classic lit misanthrope is Swiift
>>7801692
fuck I'm sure that quote is made up but by jove it's genius
Salinger and Pynchon.
>>7801692
What's that supposed to mean? Anteaters are majestic as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBQozuDXUhQ
Pynchon isn't even a hermit.
He lives a fairly normal life but doesn't involve himself with the media.
Pynchon is about to die probably, he should grow up of his fear of the media shit. At least do some interviews before death takes him
Nietzsche
I think this is pynchons voice, maybe
https://youtu.be/RjWKPdDk0_U
>>7802645
N-no, s-stop.
>>7802645
Oh god no.....I don't want him to die.
>>7802845
hell be fine
stop spreading this meme, thomas pynchon is neither a hermit nor a misanthrope, he just doesn't want to be a public figure, that's all
>>7802244
This, you peeps are dumb.
Me.
>>7802143
this, to be frankly honest with all of you
>>7802855
Kind of the opposite of this lad, a misanthrope hermit who likes to be a public figure.
>>7802244
He has a family and friends, and goes out and stuff. Also, it's not like his life's story is a mystery. There's plenty of info about him online.
I'd imagine you can hire any private detective to snap some photos of him, or evesdrop on his conversations. Hell, if a reporter can get this, anyone can snoop around his life. It's just that people are too respectful of Pynchon, or they don't know who he even is, or whatever.
J(umbo) D(ick) Salinger
Although, I don't think he was misanthropic; I have a strong inclination that he only disliked some particular--yet constant--deportment of people, not the people themselves.
>>7802809
That is Pynchon, but he's doing a dumb accent just for the ad. His role in The Simpsons is his normal voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcYXWfGt7DY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ds4OLUDIvg
>>7802936
damn it, Norman, stop following me!
>>7802177
Have you ever seen an anteater in real life?
I think if you can see an anteater and not be immediately moved to contemplate the existence and purpose of man in the universe you're a simpleton.
>>7802944
Just got done watching the Salinger documentary. He seemed actually pretty normie by my standards. I can relate.
He just didn't like associating with creeps that would stalk him, but he loved that teenage pussy. He also got along with his neighbors and other people in the small town he lived in well.
You have to sympathize with that. Common people are too rowdy, they're not natural and relaxed enough. They don't understand most things. Maybe that is what he meant by the holy "phony" business.
>>7802982
>Maybe that is what he meant by the holy "phony" business.
I agree with you. And I agree with his idea.
What's the name of the documentary? I'd like to watch it.
>>7803004
Not him, but he's probably referring to Salinger (2013) by Shane Salerno
>>7802809
Fuck, now I want to read Inherent Vice.
>>7803198
This.
So far I've read CoL49 twice, planning on reading V. next. Who knows, I might pick up Vice first.
>>7801692
The 20th century nihilist philosopher Emil Cioran fits both traits fairly well, but not completely.
Cioran was Romanian, and lived the first part of his life there. But at some point during the war years, he relocated to Paris, and never returned to his home country. This migration caused him to have a complex relationship with both languages, writing some earlier work in Romanian, and later work in French.
Despite living in an alpha++ world city, Cioran lived quietly in a small apartment which I would go as far as to describe as a hovel. He churned out nihilist texts steadily, and was frequently offered literary prizes for them. He accepted one early in his career since he felt at the time that not to do so would be a /total/ dick move on his part, but he turned down the rest. Somehow he even had a gf of many years (lucky normie).
Despite some normie trappings, Cioran also had aspects of the hermit and misanthrope to him, as evidenced by his living arrangement and the above prize refusals. I'm told that he never had much money, but I'm not sure about that part. Also to my knowledge he never reproduced, and this was consistent with his antinatalist thought (any time you can see that a philosopher has actually applied their ideas to their own personal lives, whatever they may be, it is a welcome evidence of absence of hypocrisy. Although Cioran /was/ something of a hypocrite about suicide, which he was fascinated with yet never committed, living instead into old age).
He had a couple of friends around town with whom he would discuss /lit/ tier things like philosophy, society and whatever the current projects were. So this is the dent in the "hermit". But he did shun celebrity at least, only agreeing (according to one video) to sit down with some fellow Romanian documentary filmers much later in life, in his hovel.
In another life, Cioran might have simply wandered town naked with his lamp, living in an urn. But recent societies don't allow adult men the naked part.
Only semi-related but what's the best book on Diogenes?
>>7803313
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/zp2ppnxjwj28c//Cynicism
Diogenes the Cynic by Navia for Diogenes alone, Classical Cynicism by Navia for the Cynics in general.
>>7803257
>nekkid men
Shit happens in India all the time, I bet Cioran was too much of a ciump to handle the climate though.
>>7803198
Read it, its really good
>>7801692
>Pyncho doesn't want to hang out with ME, so he must be misanthropic
he doesn't appear publically, that doesn't mean he doesn't like humanity. he does in fact have a family, friends and a life
>>7803355
Where in India? I've lived here for almost 30 years now. Haven't seen any naked geniuses.
our lord and saviour sir Elliot Rodgers.
>>7802913
oh my lord he is so fucking ugly!
>>7805068
he's dead for a reason mate
>>7805225
He's undergoing a Gollum-esque transformation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft#Reclusion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._P._Lovecraft#Themes
>>7803257
he had a gf and was frequently photographed with friends in paris, not that this really contradicts the tone of his writing imo. i think his french writing is less edgy as well
>>7802177
you missed the joke
>>7802809
Is Pynchon Tommy Chong?
>>7803710
poo in loo
>>7805225
Rude.
>>7802913
he looks like a grumpy cartoon rat.
>>7803257
>Although Cioran /was/ something of a hypocrite about suicide, which he was fascinated with yet never committed, living instead into old age).
It's a bit more complex than that:
EMC A few years ago, there was a friend of mine who told me that he'd
met a twenty-five-year-old engineer who wanted to meet me. Finally, I
said all right, we'll go stroll around the Luxembourg Gardens nearby. It
was a summer evening. We spoke about one thing and another, literature
and such, and finally he said to me, "Do you know why I wanted to meet
you? It's because I read your books, and I saw that you're interested in
suicide. I'd like to tell you about my case." And so he explained to me that
he had a good job, he earned a lot. He said, "In the last two or three
years, I've begun to be obsessed with suicide. I'm in the prime of life, and
this idea has taken hold of me. I haven't been able to get rid of it." We
talked for three hours about suicide, circling the Luxembourg Gardens. I
explained to him how I was-I am still-obsessed by it, I consider suicide
as the only solution, but, I told him, my theory is this: that suicide is the
only idea that allows man to live. Suicide gives me the idea that I can
leave this world when I want to, and that makes life bearable. Instead of
destroying it. So for three hours we discussed every aspect of this problem,
and then I suggested that we not see each other again, because there
wouldn't be any point.
JW In an encounter like that, have you had the feeling of saving him a little?
EMC Yes, a little. That's happened to me several times, with young
women particularly. I've always prevented them from committing suicide.
I've always tried to tell them that, since you can kill yourself anytime, you
should put it off. But you should not abandon this idea.
JW But you do feel a certain responsibility to such people.
EMC Yes, I can't avoid it. Because my theory of suicide is that one
shouldn't kill oneself, one should make use of this idea in order to put up
with life. So, it's something else, but they've attacked me, saying this
fellow makes the argument for suicide and doesn't do it himself. But I
haven't made such an argument. I say that we have only this recourse in
life, that the only consolation is that we can quit this life when we want
to. So, it's a positive idea. Christianity is guilty of leading a campaign
against this idea. One should say to people, "If you find life unbearable,
tell yourself, 'Well, I can give it up when I want to."' One should live by
way of this idea of suicide. It's in Syllogismes where I wrote that sentence:
"Without the idea of suicide, I would have killed myself from the start."
It's a good interview, the rest is worthwhile as well:
http://public.journals.yorku.ca/index.php/public/article/download/30276/27810
>>7806686
Cheers but he was still a sadboy who didn't want to be liable for others offing themselves. The whole thing is a copout, not that I particularly blame him.
>>7802177
>Anteaters are majestic as fuck
>>>/reddit/
>>7806073
nigga he is voice acting
in the Simpsons clips he sounds like he should being from NY long island
A better question would be which famous authors and philosophers were perfect, functioning members of society.
>>7802177
>majestic
go back to reggit
>>7802150
you seriously are pathetic
http://www.clickhole.com/theysaidwhat/find-out-what-lin-manuel-miranda-janelle-monae-and-4084
Louis Ferdinand Celine
>>7802913
I love this French goblin
explain the anteater joke pls lads
>>7802177
What prompts you redditors to even come here? Your fake feelings of being offended aren't funny here.
>>7802177
I don't know how anyone could see that and think there's a loving God
Kafka-sensei
>>7803257
>alpha++ world city
>/total/ dick
>(lucky normie).
>normie trappings
Even aside from that it's a terrible post that misconceives Cioran in many ways
>>7808309
Not many people can get such a signature look down.
Thomas Ligotti
>>7808146
Surprised at how little I see him mentioned here. Journey to the End of the Night/Death on the Installment Plan are excellent
