Did she deserve the Nobel Prize or she only won because she's an African American female writer? Beloved was decent and Song of Solomon is pretty good, but neither were great imo.
The Nobel is a joke, it doesn't matter.
>>7750022
the Nobel is awarded not so much on literary merit, but on how it tries to challenge social topics. you should know this by now. there are other awards that do the other.
>>7750022
>>7750023
This
she won nearly 30 years ago and there hasn't been a black winner since. stop pretending they get some kind of special recognition
Because she's the only one who dares to tackle what is essentially America: slavery.
>>7750047
they picked her to tick woc off the list of identities they're required to cover or else they'll be racist
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>>7750734
this.
ITT: Toni 'Baloney' Morrison's Nobel will overshadow Walcott's.
Why? Lots of bullshooters win prizes. Why not acquaint yourself with the winners that actually deserve it?
>>7752073
>yfw the author also painted the god damn cover
walcott certified beast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHdABLJ2Tks
>>7752073
this was assigned in 10th grade but it was the last book of the year and I was moving out of state so I never read it but on reflection the teacher that assigned it (and who I really hated) assigned nothing but top books that year and Omeros was the only one I didn't read.
how is it?
>>7752103
too hard for u which is why u didnt read it
>>7750022
even if what you say is true. The bluest eye is a fucking great read if you're depressed.
i've never read this black women (i am not from america)
i am told that black / women in america ONLY talk about black / women
is it true ?
should i read toni morrison or does she ONLY talk about black women ?
>>7752588
Sometimes she talks about black men.
I thought Beloved was really good. But Song of Solomon was such a piece of shit I had to stop reading 3/4 of the way through
>>7752588
does james joyce only talk about irish faggots? when u read ethnic lit u takes ur chances
From the Paris Review:
>INTERVIEWER
>I read that you started writing after your divorce as a way of beating back the loneliness. Was that true, and do you write for different reasons now?
>MORRISON
>Sort of. Sounds simpler than it was. I don’t know if I was writing for that reason or some other reason—or one that I don’t even suspect. I do know that I don’t like it here if I don’t have something to write.
>INTERVIEWER
>Here, meaning where?
>MORRISON
>Meaning out in the world. It is not possible for me to be unaware of the incredible violence, the willful ignorance, the hunger for other people’s pain. I’m always conscious of that though I am less aware of it under certain circumstances—good friends at dinner, other books. Teaching makes a big difference, but that is not enough. Teaching could make me into someone who is complacent, unaware, rather than part of the solution. So what makes me feel as though I belong here out in this world is not the teacher, not the mother, not the lover, but what goes on in my mind when I am writing. Then I belong here and then all of the things that are disparate and irreconcilable can be useful. I can do the traditional things that writers always say they do, which is to make order out of chaos. Even if you are reproducing the disorder, you are sovereign at that point. Struggling through the work is extremely important—more important to me than publishing it.
>It is not possible for me to be unaware of the incredible violence, the willful ignorance, the hunger for other people’s pain.
>tfw Toni Morrison blew OP the fuck out before he even posted
Toni can really fuck shit up.
>INTERVIEWER
>Why do you think people ask, Why don’t you write something that we can understand? Do you threaten them by not writing in the typical Western, linear, chronological way?
>MORRISON
>I don’t think that they mean that. I think they mean, Are you ever going to write a book about white people? For them perhaps that’s a kind of a compliment. They’re saying, You write well enough, I would even let you write about me. They couldn’t say that to anybody else. I mean, could I have gone up to André Gide and said, Yes, but when are you going to get serious and start writing about black people? I don’t think he would know how to answer that question. Just as I don’t. He would say, What? I will if I want to, or, Who are you? What is behind that question is, there’s the center, which is white, and then there are these regional blacks or Asians, or any sort of marginal people. That question can only be asked from the center. Bill Moyers asked me that when-are-you-going-to-write-about question on television. I just said, Well, maybe one day . . . but I couldn’t say to him, you know, you can only ask that question from the center. The center of the world! I mean he’s a white male. He’s asking a marginal person when are you going to get to the center, when are you going to write about white people. I can’t say, Bill, why are you asking me that question? Or, As long as that question seems reasonable is as long as I won’t, can’t. The point is that he’s patronizing; he’s saying, You write well enough; you could come on into the center if you wanted to. You don’t have to stay out there on the margins. And I’m saying, Yeah, well, I’m gonna stay out here on the margin, and let the center look for me. Maybe it’s a false claim, but not fully. I’m sure it was true for the ones we think of as giants now. Joyce is a good example. He moved here and there, but he wrote about Ireland wherever he was, didn’t care where he was. I am sure people said to him, Why . . .? Maybe the French asked, When you gonna write about Paris?
>>7752098
no, he definitely did do something
>>7752741
>by not writing in the typical Western, linear, chronological way
el oh el
>>7750099
Calm down, Bernie Sanders.
>>7752770
>the typical novel in the West is not linear and chronological
found the non-reader
there's the door
don't come back
>>7752786
as opposed to the typical novel in the east which is wacky and totally non-linear like one of those post-modern novels from europe, i have respect for morrison but that was a dumb statement
>>7752793
>>INTERVIEWER
>>Why do you think people ask, Why don’t you write something that we can understand? Do you threaten them by not writing in the typical Western, linear, chronological way?
She didn't even say it, you ignorant shiteater.
LEARN TO READ
>>7752809
the interviewer for paris review said that? jesus christ they should stop hiring legacy admission students from banking/finance industry feeder schools and get people who can think instead
>>7752786
I'm not even implying that, or the converse. It's just silly to call 'linear and chronological' the 'Western' way.
>>7752821
thats the western way of thinking about history, but it's not particularly "western" to write a story that way...paris review confirmed pleb,but morrison is western, so what the fuck is the interviewer trying to say anyways? that black americans aren't really "western"? she grew up in america english is her first language, how is she going to magically write something non-western? man the paris review is actually shit to me now
>>7752764
Yeah he was Black.
>>7752775
Even more amusing since Bernie got cuckolded by dindus tonight.
>>7752849
trump gonna win liberal shitlords about to get btfo bernie was their last hope, americans arent in the mood for another wall street military industry big oil tool in office
>>7752859
>women
>Elissa Schappell
u seen her chin? i give her vagina a 50/50 of existing
We read Beloved back in high school. All I really remember are bits and pieces like the guy comparing fucking that one woman to his past experience of literally fucking a cow, Stamp Paid, that guy fucking Beloved and knocking her up. Then the whole ending where she tries to kill a white dude with an ice pick and Beloved disappears into the woods.
I'm not sure how good or bad it was because I only vaguely remember the details of the story and none of the prose.
>>7752859
You tell me what it was then Obama loving shitlord.
>>7752862
this.
>>7752869
questionable, but I'm definitely erring on woman
>>7752862
>>7752883
>>>/pol/
>>7752879
the nobel prize really gets a hardon for nuclear nonproliferation. they pre-cum sometimes.
>>7752977
>>7752981
No, no, I completely believe that Trump will win the presidency at this point. But it's obviously political discussion, and well, politics isn't /lit/, my dude.
>>7753003
Good you pass <3
Ehh Trump is a published author so let's fall back on that. ;)
>>7752741
is this supposed to be a good answer, there's a hierarchy to everything who fucking cares
I just wasn't a fan of Beloved. I don't know. Maybe I had to have read it when it first came out, I'm so desensitized to slavery/post-slavery black stories
>>7753054
some socialists literally want to dismantle every societal hierarchy.
>>7752613
Yes he do
>>7753054
Does that really mean we all need write about the higher ups eventually?
