>read Houellebecq's first novel after reading Soumission
>it's much better and at least as relevant
Why doesn't this stuff get memed?
>>7708885
Elementary Particle and Possibilities of an Island get a lot of love here.
Memes have nothing to do with the quality of the work. DFW is a great example of this.
>>7708897
Just started the Elementary Particles, seems good so far. I think I'll just go through his novels chronologically.
The Lovecraft book seems promising as well.
>>7708885
Because /lit/ is above talking about such misogynistic trash.
>>7708885
Because Submission has "muh mudslimes" factor
Whatever is the second most talked about though, and the most before Submission came along
>>7708885
elementary particles is a big sledgehammer of a book. Whatever is a small hammer, the rest are wooden hammers (haven't read submission).
He doesn't get talked about because he isn't a dead guy who is rimmed by pseudo intellectuals.
>>7709042
Seems to me Whatever will be a longer lasting work. Nobody cares about anti-Muslim writers from Kafka's times; everyone remembers Kafka.
>Sure. It's been hopeless for a long time, from the very beginning. You will never represent, Raphaël, a young girl's erotic dream. You have to resign yourself to the inevitable; such things are not for you. It's already too late, in any case. The sexual failure you've known since your adolescence, Raphaël, the frustration that has followed you since the age of thirteen, will leave their indelible mark. Even supposing that you might have women in the future - which in all frankness I doubt - this will not be enough; nothing will ever be enough. You will always be an orphan to those adolescent loves you never knew. In you the wound is already deep; it will get deeper and deeper. An atrocious, unremitting bitterness will end up gripping your heart. For you there will be neither redemption nor deliverance. That's how it is.
>>7709105
>ywn experience ptp
>>7709105
that was an incredible passage.
But I think the part in elementary partcles where he goes back to teach at his old school tops it. I was crying in laughter in public while reading it. I thought 4chan represented the peak of edginess, only to find that Houellebecq had beaten 4chan before it was invented.
>>7709132
He's the spiritual father of /r9k/ desu.
>>7709082
Houellebcq literally is a pseudo-intellectual.
Did you even read his books?
See how he quotes and namedrops Comté etc and his theories (rips off wikipedia)
>>7709185
Comte
>>7709185
Houellebecq doesn't pretend to be an intellectual.
>“An entire life spent reading would have fulfilled my every desire; I already knew that at the age of seven. The texture of the world is painful, inadequate; unalterable, or so it seems to me. Really, I believe that an entire life spent reading would have suited me best. Such a life has not been granted me...”
>>7709105
>implying i didn't haven't been dating a girl since she was 13 and I was 24.
>>7709204
remove that 'didn't', mentally.
>>7709204
how old was she when you deflowered her? or did some guy beat you to it before she was 13?
>>7709221
16, but it broke after a bad tumble during a ballet recital.
>>7709236
Kek, well at least it's another excuse than horse riding.
>>7709105
I just read it two days ago.
That passage gave me the chills and didn't let me sleep at night.
I'm becoming the Tisserand.
>>7709258
No, it actually happened. Blood in the underwear and everything. She didn't even start menstruating when it happened either.
For all who are interested in "becoming a writer" and / or in Houellebecq's other writings I recommend reading his manifesto.
Elementary Particles is one of the best books I've read recently, and includes one of the finest love stories I've come across in literature.
>>7709285
>peeking into little children's underwear
>>7709092
You missed the point of the book m8. It could be literally any religion/ideology. The thing being critiqued is the state of European culture and thought.
>>7709105
What other novels have "tfw no gf" as a prominent theme?
>>7709296
She was 13 then too and I was washing her clothes. It's not like I didn't see them from the outside and more already.
did anyone here read his book on lovecraft?
>>7708885
I love how nobody on /lit/ ever talks about The Map and the Territory. It's very likely his best work that isn't Soumission.
>>7709310
I've read it and I found it hilarious and interesting. It says as much about Houellebecq as it does Lovecraft IMO.
I have a bunch of quotes copied out if you'd like to read some.
>>7709318
Yes please.
The english translation I read of this book is one of the worst translations in existence.
>>7709340
Why? You're just butthurt about the title.
>>7709340
Get a FR edition and translate it into google, might be just as good.
Ok I'll spam the quotations I copied out. It sucks that Warosu is down since I've posted them here before:
On his disgust for society
>"Today more than ever, Lovecraft would be a misfit and a recluse. Born in 1890, he appeared already to his contemporaries, in his younger years, an out-of-date reactionary. One can easily guess what he would have thought of today’s society. After his death, it hasn’t stopped evolving in directions that would have made him detest it more than ever. Mechanisation and modernization have ineluctably destroyed the way of life to which he was attached with every fibre of his being [...] The ideas of liberty and democracy, which he abhorred, have spread over the planet. The idea of progress has become an uncontested credo, almost unconscious, which can only bristle at a man who declares: “What we detest, is simply change in and of itself” . Liberal capitalism has exerted its dominance over consciousness; marching in time with it have been commercialism, advertising, the absurd grinning cult of economic efficiency, the exclusive and immoderate appetite for material riches. Even worse, liberation has reached from the economic to the sexual domain. All sentimental fictions have been shattered into a thousand pieces. Purity, chastity, fidelity, decency, have become ridiculous stigmata. The value of a human being is measured today by his economic efficiency and his erotic potency: so, exactly the two things that Lovecraft hated the most strongly"
p.34
On his first and only relationship
>"When she meets him, she is thirty-eight, seven years older than he. Divorced, she has one daughter of sixteen from her former marriage. She lives in New York, and earns her livelihood as a manager of a clothing store. She seems to have immediately fallen in love with him. For his part, Lovecraft keeps a reserved attitude. To tell the truth, he knows absolutely nothing of women. It is she who has to make the first move, and even the following ones. She invites him to dinner, comes to visit him in Providence. Finally, in a little Rhode Island town called Magnolia, she takes the initiative to embrace him. Lovecraft blushes, then goes totally white. When Sonia mocks him gently, he has to explain that it is the first time he has been embraced since his early childhood"
p.27
>>7709343
I it a long time ago, but I recall it being full of forced british slang and choppy sentences. Maybe there's a betterAmerican english translation that I'm not aware of.
On his growing racism while living in poverty in New York
>"It is no longer a matter of the well-bred racism of the WASP; this is brutal hatred, that of the trapped animal made to share its cage with beasts of a different, and formidable, species. And yet, ultimately, his hypocrisy and his good education bore up; as he wrote to his aunt: “It does not behove individuals of our class to make ourselves conspicuous by our speech or inconsiderate actions.” After the example of his neighbours, whenever he comes across representatives of other races, Lovecraft grits his teeth, blanches slightly, but keeps his cool. His exasperation is given free rein only in his letters – before being released in his stories. It transforms little by little into a phobia. His vision, nourished by hatred, is elevated to naked paranoia, and higher still, to absolute distraction, foreshadowing the verbal derangements of the “major works”"
p.31
>>7709356
*I read it
This shit is too brutal, please stop.
>>7709356
I read the Serpent's Tail version and it was pretty good. I mean Houellebecq (consciously) avoids "flowery" or long-winded prose most of the time and the only thing I can imagine missing out on are the French turns of phrase that he uses when disparaging dentists and so on. His writing is surprisingly effective IMO despite appearing to have been written so casually. I think the great thing about Houellebecq is that none of his work seems forced. It feels like pure, direct communication a lot of the time which I guess is why it's so easy to be persuaded to view the world the way his narrators portray it.
On Lovecraft's feelings towards his wife and her efforts to help him while he is unemployed
>“I have never seen a more admirable attitude, full of disinterested consideration and solicitude; each financial difficulty that I face is accepted and excused as soon as it becomes obvious that it is inevitable… A devotion capable of accepting without a murmur this combination of incompetence and egoism, so contrary as it might be to everything one could hope for at first, is assuredly a phenomenon so rare, so close t saintliness in its historical sense, that it is enough to have the least sense of artistic proportion to respond with the warmest reciprocal esteem, with admiration and with affection.”
p.30
On Lovecraft's failure to find a job despite his best efforts
>"This task would prove absolutely impossible. He would try, though, responding to hundreds of job advertisements, writing to employers speculatively…Total failure. Certainly, he had no idea of the realities indicated by words like dynamism, competitivity, commercial sense, efficiency…But all the same, in an economy which wasn’t even in crisis at the time, it would surely be possible for him to find some junior position…But no. Nothing whatsoever. There was no conceivable place, in the American economy of his epoch, for an individual like Lovecraft. There is here a sort of mystery; and he himself, fully aware of his maladaption and shortcomings, doesn’t wholly understand it."
p.29
The application letter Lovecraft sent to potential employers
>“The notion according to which even a man of cultivation and good intelligence cannot rapidly acquire a competence in a domain somewhat outside his customary field seems naive to me; however, recent events have demonstrated to me in a most distinct manner to what extent this superstition is largely widespread. Since I began, two months ago, seeking employment for which I am naturally, and by virtue of my studies, well-equipped, I have responded to nearly one hundred advertisements without even receiving a chance to be heard in a satisfactory manner – apparently because I cannot give a reference from a previously-held post in a corresponding department of a different firm from that which I am addressing. Thus, abandoning traditional channels, I am finally trying for the sake of experience to take the initiative.”
p.29
The only surviving love letter Lovecraft sent to his future wife Sonia Greene
>“Dear Mrs Greene, The reciprocal love of a man and a woman is an experience of the imagination which consists of attributing to its subject a certain particular relation with the aesthetico-emotional life of that which feels it, and depends on particular conditions which must be fulfilled by that object. […] With long years of mutual enduring love slowly comes adaptation and a perfect relationship; memories, dreams, delicate stimuli, aesthetics and the habitual impressions of the beauty of dreams become permanent modifications thanks to the influence of each upon the other […] There is one considerable difference between the sentiments of youth and those of maturity. Around forty or maybe fifty years old, a complete change takes place; love accedes to a profound calm and serenity founded on a tender association before which the erotic infatuation of youth has a certain mediocre and humiliating aspect. Youth brings with it erogenous and imaginary stimuli based on the tactile phenomena of slender bodies, in virginal attitudes, and on the visual imagery of classical aesthetic contours symbolizing a sort of freshness and springtime immaturity which is very beautiful, but which has nothing to do with conjugal love.”
p.28
Also apologies to anyone annoyed by my spamming. As a reminder these are quotations from Houellebecq's first book, about H.P. Lovecraft. If you read it you'll see many statements about Lovecraft which apply more to Houellebecq himself than the writer he's writing about.
On Lovecraft's fondness for Puritanism and his hatred for life
>"Dressed in rigid and somewhat mean costumes, habitually refraining from expressing their emotions and desires, the protestant puritans of New England may occasionally lose sight of their animal origins. Hence Lovecraft accepts their company, even if only in moderate doses. Their insignificance itself reassures him. But, in the presence of “blacks” he is in the grip of an uncontrollable nervous reaction. Their vitality, their apparent absence of complexes and inhibitions terrifies and disgusts him. They dance in the street, they listen to rhythmic music…They speak loudly. They laugh in public. Life seems to amuse them; which is disquieting. Because life is no good"
p.34
On the type of man Lovecraft respects
>"“And as for Puritan inhibitions - I admire them more every day. They are attempts to make of life a work of art - to fashion a pattern of beauty in the hog-wallow that is animal existence - and they spring out of that divine hatred for life which marks the deepest and most sensitive soul...An intellectual Puritan is a fool - almost as much of a fool is an anti-Puritan - but a Puritan in the conduct of life is the only kind of man one may honestly respect. I have no respect or reverence whatever for any person who does not live abstemiously and purely”
p.35
>>7709204
How does one do this without receiving constant judgement and revulsion from literally everyone you meet?
>>7709388
Don't be a pussy.
Accept it.
>>7709388
I was present hours after her birth and babysat her often, so it just looked like we were family I guess.
On Lovecraft's fear of other races
>"We approach here the heart of Lovecraft’s racism, of which he designated himself as a victim, and which dictated who his persecutors were to be. He felt no doubt on the subject: “intelligent" human beings” would be vanquished by “greasy chimpanzees”; they would be pulverized, tortured and devoured; their bodies torn apart in ignoble rites, to the ghastly sound of ecstatic drumming. Already, the veneer of civilization was cracking, the forces of evil waiting “patient and potent”, because they would reign once again here on earth."
p.33 / 34
On Lovecraft as a gentleman and his views of the "author"
>"He wholeheartedly believed it unsuitable to pursue literature as a profession. As he wrote: “a gentleman doesn’t try to become famous, but leaves that to the little parvenu egoists ”. It’s obviously difficult to appreciate the sincerity of this declaration; it might appear to us to be the result of a formidable mass of inhibitions, but it must equally be considered as the strict application of an obsolete code of behaviour, to which Lovecraft adhered with all his might. He always wanted to be seen as a provincial gentleman, studying literature as one of the fine arts, for his own pleasure and that of a few friends, without care for public tastes, fashionable themes, or anything of that sort. Such a person has no place in our societies; he knew this, but he always refused to take account of it. And, ultimately, all that distinguished him from a true ‘country gentleman’ was that he possessed nothing; but even so, he didn’t want to take account of it"
p.26
>>7709092
Yeah, no one cares about the anti-semites, too. That would explain why Celine and Cioran are some of the most popular XXth century philosophers/writers.
>>7709393
What about people who knew about your relationship?
>>7709383
Don't apologize to them, you've probably contributed more to this board than they ever had.
>>7708885
The movie was so fucking boring, I hope the book has some more depth.
>>7709400
No one knew.
>>7709363
>“It's a fact...that in societies like ours sex truly represents a second system of differentiation, completely independent of money; and as a system of differentiation it functions just as mercilessly. The effects of these two systems are, furthermore, strictly equivalent. Just like unrestrained economic liberalism, and for similar reasons, sexual liberalism produces phenomena of absolute pauperization . Some men make love every day; others five or six times in their life, or never. Some make love with dozens of women; others with none. It's what's known as 'the law of the market'...Economic liberalism is an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society. Sexual liberalism is likewise an extension of the domain of the struggle, its extension to all ages and all classes of society.”
>>7709412
I haven't read much of his fiction and what I've read I didn't really care for, but he was definitely interesting and it's pretty unfair IMO that he gets slammed so hard for his alleged lack of talent. He was a very intense and almost autistically "committed" writer in that he had a very unique if complex style but didn't change it to cater for the "average" reader and so on.
Why were so many great writers so sexually starved?
>>7709429
Isolation, particularly from women, tends to inflict a great deal of suffering, resentment, self-loathing, hatred etc which provide a form of fuel that the individual can (perhaps has to) burn somehow. He either does it by becoming an onanistic freak or by using his energy in some other way, either by going on a rampage (Ted Kaczynski, that guy who shot those women at the yoga class, Rodgers) or by making some form of art that will gain the respect of his peers without having to master social skills or any form of trade that would allow him the money and so on to establish himself as a respected individual. Balzac finally said, after cee you em em eye en gee in his girlfriend / wife: "there goes another novel", complaining that by doing that he had wasted the energy required to write or use his stamina in some useful way. Many guys could end up like Travis Bickle, though most settle for video games or some other child-tier distraction and others find a girlfriend and become placated by the mediocrity she eventually inflicts on their relationship.
>>7709427
One of the reasons he gets shit on is probably his sizeable 'look i got chtulu oven mitts xSDDD' following
>>7709449
Had a google after posting that hypothetical example and they actually exist.
Just meme my shit up senpai
>>7709446
>Balzac ejaculating
Also would it be ok to ask for some dating advice in this thread?
>>7709460
Of all the places why would you choose this website, and especially this board?
>>7709446
Kaczynski was a part of the MK ULTRA program (which fucked him up pretty badly), plus he was a mathematical genius whose, to quote one of his professors, theories could be understood by "maybe 2 or 3 people on the planet". And I'd hardly call his actions a "rampage" (stretched in time, carefully planned, politically motivated), not to mention his manifesto (which is suprisingly coherent, at least at parts).
>>7709466
Because even if the advice is terrible, the people here are more likely to understand each other, at least at a common cultural level.
>>7709466
I asked /adv/ and they said I was autistic and I asked /r9k/ and they didn't give any real constructive advice or feedback.
>>7709472
His professor was exaggerating, anywhere from a few hundred to 100,000s of people could have unwrapped his papers' meanings.
>>7709446
Novel? Please. Fucking doesn't take that long. More like he lost 2 pages.
>>7709484
Good to know, but my argument still stands - his behaviour had a psychiatric/ideological foundation, not much to do with women.
I'm just hoping I'll come across a good modest girl by chance.
It takes so much effort to get to know a woman only to discover she's a harlot, gold-digger, or schemer.
I'm happy with jerking off until that happens, if it does.
>>7709472
Kaczynski's "part" in the program was relatively innocent, in that the purpose of his involvement was to discover how intelligent but "unstable" undergraduates would react to abuse and belittlement by someone whose role it was to lure them into a debate or discussion then undermine his arguments. I mean he wasn't drugged and he could have ceased his involvement if he was going insane.
And yes perhaps "rampage" is a poor choice of terminology by me. I read his "Industrial Society" book and all his letters a few years go in the big Feral House book (Technological Slavery) and although it was very interesting (particularly the designer baby stuff) his conclusion (voluntary reversion to primitive living) is fairly illogical and "extreme" IMO, although he obviously knew his stuff. It's interesting to note (again IMO) that Adam Lanza also sincerely believed that human civilization should be rejected in favour of a more animalistic, primitive existence.
>>7709497
There are no good women, only good young girls.
>>7709489
Low-test dripfag detected.
>>7709409
Guys, help me out here... which one actually wrote this one?
>>7709602
It was Hollaback, the supreme gentleman's prose is way shittier.
Could someone tell me whether me asking this girl out seems like a good idea or not please?
>be me
>work in an office complex in central NY
>very quiet and sit isolated from my colleagues
>eat alone on some steps nearby, she saw me at least once with her female colleague
>girl works on the floor above for a different company
>she enters my office two or three times a day to print something at the printer beside me
>looking at her would involve turning right around and if I said anything everyone would hear
>she asks me two questions on different occasions about finding stationary or something
>really cute smile
>google her name and find out on first page that she is into non-normie music I know a lot about and enjoy
>find out she attended a top college and is likely from a wealthy background (private schooling etc)
>her colleagues are from a similar background to her
>her boss is a guy two years older than we are and is tall, rich, from a wealthy family, privately educated and popular etc
>see her sometimes on the stairwell and make eye contact
>she doesn't come into work for two weeks recently
>finally see her as we pass near the bathroom and both (?) smile big goofy smiles (me at least) and say "Hey how're you" in passing
>yesterday
>I'm filling up a water glass
>she stands right by me to fill hers up
>turn to look at her but she just looks at me without expression as if asking what I'm looking at
>she fills her glass and rushes to some meeting or something
>haven't seen her since
I think she may have been somewhat curious about me at one point but may have become bored or indifferent by my apparent apathy by now.
My plan is the next time I pass her on the stairwell or something to say: "hey, sorry if this is inappropriate but would you like to go out with me sometime?"
I'll say it in a a calm, measured tone without smiling but without being too serious or autistic about it. If she says no my plan is to smile and say "No it's cool I understand, cya" and act non-plussed in the hope she'll regret it and say she changed her mind, or at least won't think I'm going to kill her or something like that.
What do you guys think?
>>7709621
That's way too fast, you have the autism like me, that will lead to massive embarrassment, don't do it nigga, don't do it.
You need to introduce yourself and make small talk first, ask her what she does at work and all.
After you've had some conversations with her then ask her out.
>>7709429
Because if they weren't, they would not have become great writers. See?
>>7709631
You have to build up trust before you ask her out. She doesn't know you particularly well and vice versa, and women naturally have to be more security conscious. To make her interested in you, you have to show that you're interested in her, and to do that, you need to make her feel special.
>>7708885
I actually preferred Soumission to Whatever - I found Whatever to be a bit slow and clumsy in parts. I still liked individual passages a lot, but the book as a whole was nothing special in my opinion. Soumission on the other hand was a brilliant satire of the modern west, and I couldn't put it down. To each their own.
>>7708885
I'm reluctant to try, because he seems like a self absorbed whiner.
"boo hoo, women won't fuck me"
>>7709651
Then why are you reading this board?
>>7709645
(accidentally sent before I could finish) ... And by that I mean, if you don't physically revolt her, you should let her feel like the most important woman in the world when she's around you. If you don't know how to do this, read books like The Game.
Ultimately, if she doesn't date outside her social class, move on.
>>7709631
My instincts are telling me strongly that this is a good idea. Also my opportunities to talk to her are negligible. For some reason she used to come stand by the printer for like 30 seconds - 1 minute, while most people just printed something off and came to grab it and go. Also I'm very quiet and sort of cold-seeming so I think being frank and direct might appeal to her and might think I'm not just being sleazy by adopting a pleasant demeanour in the workplace and asking her how her commute was this morning. She doesn't seem like someone who will humiliate me, and to be honest I've invested so much into the idea of dating her I'd rather just say this and be rejected and get back to doing my own shit rather than having her on my mind all the time. Her colleagues will probably find out and think even less of me but right now I don't think I care.
Also re: autism. In February 2014 I experienced a relationship with a girl who pursued me, and when it ended (she became distant because I sort of humiliated her) I hand-wrote a letter and posted it through her apartment door despite various boards telling me I was autistic and retarded, and it resulted in her texting me almost every month since then asking to come over my place or "catch up" etc.
I really would like to just stop this girl right after we pass and be frank with her. When she smiled at me previously while asking me a question I acted so cold and expressionless.
>>7709645
>>7709656
I don't feel I'm physically revolting, and in recent years I've received several conspicuous offers either to kiss a girl or to penetrate them, most of which I've turned down because I'm rather easily repulsed.
This girl is exactly "my type" and really I will regret it as I've regretted not talking to other girls if I just leave things as they are. I appreciate women like men who are passionate about them and who overcome any insecurities to talk to them because of how attractive they are, and I don't want to be seen as some wan, apathetic boring guy who sort of awkwardly and "cutely" says how great she seems when really I want to look her in the eye and communicate to her that I would like to get to know her and treat her seriously while also being the type of guy she would perhaps like to be with romantically.
>>7709656
>Read books like The Game
Don't do this anon, those books actually help very few and make autists and socially anxious guys worse with women than they were before. Showing genuine interest in her will make her feel special.
>>7709658
First of all you are fucked from the start as you exist within a highly refined (by global standards), labyrinthine framework of social dynamics. I come from Eastern Europe and here things like asking someone out or making small talk are piss-easy and you risk almost no chance of ridicule. This is probably the lone reason because of which I'd hate to live in the US.
>>7709668
Where did this social culture even come from?
The U.S. was nothing like this before the 80s.
>>7709668
I accept that, and the extra complication here is that she is from a wealthy background and has (afaik) been acquainted with only that sort of culture and lifestyle so far in her life. But what's attractive is that she in no obvious way reflects the stereotype that many girls from a similar background do (I work with other people from that same background). I imagine she's rather snobbish in a casual way but I don't mind that, and since I'm something of a poorfag who has taught himself to be cultured and so on I think I have something of an advantage over the sort of all-smiling but rather boring guys she is accustomed to talking to. That may be my autism talking though but my autism is mostly ironic I feel.
>>7709621
Any females browsing right now willing to give me some advice / guidance?
Please imagine yourself as a ~5'4 girl who is cute and who has been raised in a sort of comfy upper-middle class lifestyle and now works full-time at an office where a reserved, lonely-slash-depressed-seeming guy pretty much seems indifferent to you but looks at you in passing in a way that suggests he may be curious about you. Imagine he stops you in the hallway and says, in a non-stuttering voice and without spilling any visible spaghetti, if you would like to "go out with him sometime". How would you react?
I imagine your heart would beat pretty quickly for a minute and your instinct would be to escape and say no thanks, but would him asking you this "out of the blue" with no clear sign previously expressed that he thinks of you at all surprise you? scare you? intimidate you? charm you? what?
I wish I could be relaxed and charming, most of the time I can't get far enough out of my own head to approach a woman, and when I do I'm a mess of nerves that practically sends them running off, even having shown prior interest in me. I don't know how to stop being cold and formal and really open up and relax around a person.
>>7709693
>Please imagine yourself as a ~5'4 girl who is cute and who has been raised in a sort of comfy upper-middle class lifestyle
I'd be a massive slut.
>>7709701
/adv/ is one of the worst places to ask for /adv/, at least here things are only 60% poor experience, rather than 90%
>>7709719
What's your advice?
>>7709719
I don't care, this is /lit/.
>>7709701
That's like telling someone to go to /r9k/ for an honest evaluation of females.
Please the more advice the better.
I may see this girl tomorrow and I know that if I have a bunch of sincere-seeming posts saying it's a good idea floating in my head I'm more likely to just do it rather than overthink it.
I mean right now I could post 30,000 words easily detailing every aspect of this potential relationship as I've thus far thought about it but I know ultimately I will keep thinking and thinking and one day she will be gone.
In 2012 a girl who I met in college in freshman year and who I didn't realize was into me at the time asked me, in my final year of college, what my romantic life was like and I shrugged and said whatever and she looked really sad and said "you don't try hard enough". There have been girls since then who have either struck up conversation or sat there smiling at me but each time I've just acted coldly until their interests dissipated or until I walked away and never saw them again. I don't want to keep repeating this admittedly autistic pattern.
Blogfags should be banned desu.
>>7709651
One of his characters is like that. Houellebecq gets plenty of pussy.
>>7709748
Go for it. It's not "out of the blue" enough to scare her away, unless she isn't interested in the first place and she uses that as a pretext. Nothing to lose, other than dignity, some self esteem, perhaps nights of sleep, your wits, hope, all of which are overrated.
>>7709668
>>7709668
Bullshit. I too come from eastern Europe, I was born here, educated here, visited the West on trips of no more than a week at a time, blue I'm too poor to go anywhere and will die here. It seemed to me much easier to strike up a conversation with a stranger in the US or Western Europe, make small and friendly talk, than it is in my country. As for the "labyrinthine network of social relations", that's exactly how I see things here.
>>7709213
This is basically John Green for NEETs though
>>7709446
>Ted Kaczynski
Kazinski had autism and was a visionary who took things a little too far. I don't condone terrorism, but I will stand by his figure as being someone with more integrity than just lashing out because he couldn't get a girlfriend.
Do people with autism even want girlfriends? I doubt it.
>>7711497
There is no help, anon. Only you.
First of all, if you want edgy sex scenes go for Elementary Particles. My favourite is when he jerks off at the beach while watching 13 years old girls walking.
>>7709185
He admits often in interviews he's not an intellectual at all, he doesn't even really think before writing, he just "feels the time and society" and write about it using mostly the unconscious like the surrealists do.
>>7709204
You were 24, you did miss the 14 to 18 loves. Maybe you didn't but you don't talk about it.
>>7709299
Exactly, the book is way more about the state of Europe, the scene in that waffle shop in Austria reflects the whole novel. Islam is just what is happening right now but it could be anything else.
>>7709388
Why do you care ? I'm 27 and hang out with a 16 girl, no one gives a shit except my dad who openly admits his jealousy.
>>7709315
It's considered the best in literary composition, style and ideas. It won the most prestigious french literary prize, given by highbrows.
But that's not what Houellebecq is about.
His ideas were ahead of its time in Whatever and Atomised, then he just went into deep depression again.
Submission received really bad reviews from serious critics but it'll get the recognition it deserves in 20 years.
>>7709302
Notes from the Underground
>>7711395
Knowing an autistic guy who got a girlfriend (after going a little mad for a couple of years), yes.
Everyone just wants a cuddle ;_;
>>7711395
Ted Kaczynski tried dating a girl at his brother's workplace but after a date at his mom's house cooking applie pie together she told him she wasn't attracted to him and he wrote lewd poems about her across the walls of hsi brother's factory, which led to his being sacked
>>7709037
>>7709621
Get yourself in a really good mood for a couple of days, then tell her see her, (when she can see) that you had an "awesome win today and want to share it with someone, have coffee and a bagel with me."
You need more myth and direction with women, less questions.
e.g. Lost wieght or some flowery self-control thing or pay increase, just make it sound like it gives other women permission to find you attractive and then say it's onto the next goal for me.
>>7711751
This is far more autistic just stopping them in the hallway and asking directly. This is reddit-tier shit.
>>7709693
Asking rabbits for the best rabbit trapping techniques.
>>7711313
>Houellebecq gets plenty of pussy.
your mum tell you that, kid?
>>7711761
Why would she be attracted to him then? her own desperation... his looks... his friendly persona which he confesses is zero. How would she currently describe him to her friends? would they fall in love with him hearing this description? no. Therefore he needs to change it else a chad will just do what I suggested and she won't have the will power to say no every-time.
>>7711781
I'm the guy asking for advice.
I've decided not to "make a move" on her.
She was in work today and came to stand by the printer and had a "lively" and upbeat conversation with an older guy who said something about the sunny weather.
But then I saw her on the way to the bathroom and she was on her phone talking quickly with, I can only imagine, one of her many friends and / or potential boyfriends, probably planning something for this weekend.
I'm resolved to dating a depressed introvert or dying along pretty much. You're right, I have nothing to offer her but my genius.
>>7711751
>had an awesome win today
Do Americunts actually talk like this?
>>7711820
You realise you sound like the typical Houellebecq character ? If you're roleplaying then good job.
If not holy shit I feel bad for you, not only you're giving up at the first supposed obstacle to your conquest that you made up yourself, but you also consider yourself a genius unironically.
You had no chance with her anyway.
>>7712138
>why are you giving up beta?
>you never had a chance bro
Nice post retard
>>7712138
What do you recommend?
>>7711497
Aussie here.
I pulled a few in my time.
DO NO DO IT, Talk to her about stuff. I'll be on tomorrow night for more advice. do not go through with current plan.
>>7708885
Houellebecq has the sex
>>7709621
