ITT: In one sentence post the overall theme you would wish for mankind to take away from your writing if you ever became a renown author.
Would he not die, man could live on naught alone but himself.
>>7604326
Art is an extension of the artist.
>>7604503
>>7604508
unoriginal
Homicide as aesthetic: Profound, powerful, beautiful, immense, impressive, enviable, expressive, individualistic, competetive, assertive, rebelilous, punk, brutal, insensitive, drastic, offensive, desirable, perfect, monstrous, scary, evil, threatening, illegal, unapologetic, unforgivable, unacceptable, monstrous, insane, psychopathic, edgy, antisocial, unconventional, unique, fashionable, sacreligious, reprehensible, inhuman, unsympathetic, violent, excessive, saturated, sudden, uncontrollable, chaotic, tempestic, arbitrary, random, undeserved, unforgivable, terrible, disgusting.
loss
>>7604326
“Hurrah for Karamazov!”
When blonde & blue-eyed women start
to vanish from the world
it's near the end of time.
>>7604516
But. Are you autistic or just actually unintelligent?
>>7604516
Name one author that writes about the nature of art in relation to the artist.
You don't get it at all.
Who the fuck would know without writing?
Writing is as much a process that explores and matures ideas as it is one that expresses them. Someone who can't express their ideas well has not formed them fully.
>>7604516
De Quincey had a pretty good story on considering murder as one of the fine arts that might interest you
To hell with liberalism - have some sexual deviancy and violence, and stop pretending.
We're truly slaves to corporations and real capitalism was killed long ago.
"Right is not right; so is not so. If right were really right it would differ so clearly from not right that there would be no need for argument. If so were really so, it would differ so clearly from not so that there would be no need for argument."
>>7604326
"This man could truly not write."
"the universe will be in flux until it ends; nothing is concrete"
>>7604526
A.S. Byatt
I'm going to die and I don't want to die.
"Courtney Love really DID do it."
>>7605046
fucking ugly murderous bitch killed Kurt
>>7604526
joyce, gaddis, and those are just meme authors
To not do this.
Beta males are the tortured wheels of human history and culture
>>7605097
It's not going to be some beta uprising power fantasy
But a raw and gripping tale of how weak males are used to grind the tracks of society
We suffer for all
We die for all
True freedom comes from finding humor in your own suffering.
Things aren't how you think they are.
>>7605331
the hell did I do?
>>7605559
You didn't kill yourself yet.
>>7604516
Not just any killing can be called art.
Theres murder, and there's -murder-, you know
A true image of reality, both broad and deep.
>>7605563
working on it senpai
>>7605331
Back to facebook
>>7604326
Breathtaking verbal beauty and a vast catalogue of human existences.
reality is divine
>>7604526
"I am, in large measure, the self-same prose I write"
Pessoa
Life is improvising and trail and error
>>7604326
To find truth within the Human Condition.
>>7604526
Hesse in journey to the east
>>7604526
wilde
>>7604326
I didn't give a single fuck about the lot of them.
>>7605326
you should read beckett
>>7604326
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
people are terrifying self deceiving control freaks. we're all cannibals
>>7606173
thats two sentences actually
>>7606175
thank u
>>7604326
I will appear to have innocence, but I am not innocent. I will appear to be faltering, but I have no fault.
I will tempt the foe with the appearence of nothingness and the last thing he will do before he closes his eyes, is understand, I was not nothing.
>>7605355
Hi Plato!
>>7606218
You'll show those big bullies!!
>>7606012
If you really didn't give a fuck about them, you wouldn't care what they thought about you, and you would want them to know something else.
>>7604326
That man may yet attain the greatness that is all but forgotten.
Nothing can save youbut maybe you didn't need to be saved in the first place
>>7606237
I...k-know r-right
meh I just wrote a random quote, I wouldn't think of myself ever becoming an author of renown. nobody reads REAL books anymore. /lit/ is a fine example of literature becoming all but authentic expression
imo it is lost in the attempts of it, mimicking, 'profoundness'. i will be one of those bitter people that in every age regardless of the actual productivity of that age says 'we truly live in the dark times of the human thought'
i just hope others will make my statement false
>>7604326
Don't be a cunt
>>7604326
eat when you're hungry;sleep when you're tired.
As a society we must consciously choose the way that we evolve, instead of competing with each other and grinding each other into the dust, to be strong, yes - but to help the weak to become strong too.
hand in hand in hand
If one snowy night a tall homeless man hands you a duffle bag filled with glowing marijuana, it's best to leave the bag there in the snow.
>>7604326
(when they say /lit/ is talentless they're really not kidding. Nice thread to see how I'm not a retard I guess. I wonder how many people here actually fucking read at this point)
>>7604326
Life is just the right combination of all the wrong things.
>>7604326
That I was a pretty swell dude
Wow, what a bunch of unoriginal autists.
>>7604326
Let the game be ventured, but with my own dice
>>7606376
Is that your quote for your book? Because it suits you to a T.
>>7604326
self reflection, calmness, and taking note of one's surroundings are the sole most important traits/practices that anyone can have.
Very little of the world is "naturally" that way and this is largely a hypocrite's excuse to avoid responsibility
Please fall in love with life.
The stars await you, go and take them.
>>7604326
Your ideal life is actually impossible and you're wasting time in fruitless pursuit of it instead of bettering yourself
>>7604516
"edgy"
>>7604326
God is knowable.
Satan's greatest sin was despair.
>>7604326
Even if you done all the preparation you're guaranteed success.
>>7604326
sometimes people write stuff because it sounds nice
>>7606743
Finnegans Wake is a prominent example.
you will never achieve greatness no matter how much you try and that's okay
The thought of living in a prison of my own perceptions, that there is something there that I can call it "transcendental" and one, and only one, what is, I don't know, is living there, watching everything and, if possible, even interfering in the natural course of our lifes; this thought, this thinking, makes me conclude that there is some freedom after death.
>>7604326
The material world is just a battle of subjectivites
Why the fuck does this have to be one sentence long
I don't have any specific themes or motifs in particular, I just want people to be comforted by my prose style and I want the words to play off one another gracefully.
I want people to be completely and totally engulfed in the atmosphere I present and I want people to truly envision the image I paint and I want them to stop rushing through and appreciate the image
I want the work to be fluent and not painful to read like Joyce, I want people to be genuinely interested.
That which has died in the Heart - that is, the living emotion that undergoes a sea-change in the poetic sensibility into the insensate coral of the Word - inevitably rises, having converged with the murky and oceanic sensibilities of the whole Tradition, and becomes a richer and stranger gift to the salt beach of the day-to-day than anything in the land-realm could provide.
>>7604326
Stop hiding few ideas in gigantic piles-o'-shit (Ayn Rand).
Greatness and brilliance (mine, oh mine), and such a pretty face, too - look on me and rejoice in perfection.
Death is only the end if we think the story is about us.
>>7607214
Wow...
Unorigional theme coming in
I would want to get embarrassingly in depth into some fucked up character's mind, always hinting at a higher power's comforting light trying to break through to the character but he either doesn't accept or doesn't notice it.
Im not sure how this would be done but Dostoyevsky is the most similar to what Im trying to say
Life finds meaning only in the search for your idea of glory.
We must learn to lead a virtuous life if we ever wish to truly progress.
>>7607946
how should one define virtuousness?
Whether or not we live or we die is trivial; what is important is that we always face tomorrow.
>>7604539
I chuckled out loud
>>7604523
western world at the moment
Sandwich bag companies are in cahoots with Wonder Bread and their small ass loaves.
>>7609107
Fuck wonder bread
>>7604326
go fuck yourself
>>7604326
You're a big guy.
2+2=5
My sentence would be: don't drink unfiltered water or use fluoride based toothpaste, experiencing an afterlife depends on you having a malleable pineal glad and fluoride hardens it.
>>7609114
For you
>>7604516
Merry? Enjoyable? Fun? As play?
The words you listed were pretty uninspired
>>7604523
>yfw that's from Work and days.
It actually is. Around line 250 or so.
>>7604326
Brevity is the soul of wit
Eternity's ages and I'm better than you.
>>7604326
The only way to the top is through pain and sacrifice
And it's worth it
You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have the facts of life
Pretty much the same as Joyce's thoughts on aesthetics and metaphysics, but in a contemporary context
There are no complete truths, only what we choose to accept that which is the most convenient.
>>7604538
>tfw your gondola gains traction
don't be like me
>>7609658
What were Joyce's thoughts on metaphysics and aesthetics? I've only read bits of Dubliners and the beginning of Portrait. I can't find a good paper/article about them.
>>7610268
Mostly the artistic ideal of the epiphany, where a moment in time symbolizes a greater conflict.
A line from ulysses: "any object, intensely regarded, may be seen as a portal to the incorruptible eons of the gods." Don't know if that's the exact quote, because it's from memory.
I think in a way the idea that mundane things are incredibly significant or even holy has it's place in the modern world, where we are being constantly bombarded with an overwhelming amount of information.
Laugh at rape jokes
>>7610802
Seconded.
Life is pointless, but I, I am dynamite.
>>7604326
Discovering that while things may not be perfect, bettering yourself can better your environment and generally not giving up is the absolute least you should do.
Not the most original of ideas but it certainly would've helped my younger self and I'm certain many others.
Nothing wrong with trying to make the world a better place for yourself and, after that, others.
>In the event of an emergency, please put your own mask on first before helping others around you
>>7609664
Lame
>>7604326
Freedom of speech is more important than your "right" to not be offended or confront opinions you don't like.
Not original.
Not important that it's attributed to me.
Just important.
Je suis Charlie!
"wow that lonely faggot sure was pathetic"
Be deliberate.
>>7604326
The only meaning that we can find in life is achieved through sacrificing what is dearest to us
That I am the best writer alive today.
You have been called upon, to serve.
my dick is hard, they call me the bard
>>7605089
let's give that guy lots of our money
rich pleb>poor patrician.
His life was boring, but maybe that wasn't a bad thing.
>>7611204
Spooks the book
The world is what we make of it.
>>7604326
[Name] was here.
>>7604326
Think about it.
See the world, love it, even if it's through tears
Life is shit, then you die.
>>7614859
Fuck..
>>7604326
PUNY PEASANTS YOU SHALL NEVER ATASTE TO MY WRITING HAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! FOR I AM WONDERFUL AND YOU ARE PUNY!
he was a weird guy
>>7604326
Life is pointless, but in a smug anime face kind of way.
>>7615024
I like it...
If it could be summarised in a sentence I wouldn't need to write a book about it
Words are nothing if they cannot ensnare.
Insanity is a term used for a mere misunderstanding of one's point of view finding something beyond his own comprehension.
Everything we do is insignificant in the face of heat death
Memes were a mistake
>>7604326
One's goal in life should not be seeking pleasure but avoiding suffering.
>>7604326
In memory, there is perfection found nowhere in present
>inb4 Proust
In blatant terms:
None of this makes any fucking sense; art, life, death, emotion -- all wide-scale cultural memes that the entire world subscribes to.
So basically the bottom of the barrel of existentialism.
Be more uncomfortable
>>7604326
Spooks are Bad.
>>7609176
is this true
That it's way harder than you think it is to understand what another person is really thinking, and you're better off just trying to fucking empathise with them.
>>7604526
proust lmqo
>>7616912
This is a great message.
>>7604326
Defending your particular -ism is a form of onanism.
I hate myself
"individuals as systemic elements defined by relationships of power within a complex strategical situation ; sexuality as the example of a platform on which relationships of power operate ; family as the example of society and relationships of power on a micro-level ; you either have the power or you dont but it expresses itself in a way far more complex than most people can possibly imagine"
"rape is bad"
once somebody made a shitpost that highly resonated with me and it described what i want to do better than i ever could "sex used to be nothing more than sweating alone in a dark room about God and hell and things the priest said BUT NOW LOOK AT US - jerking off freely on the road side, feeding our lovers lengths of rope… angry depraved nonsense. we need more fear and shame, that’s what i think"
its too hard to do it in a sentence cause i cant structure my thoughts well
>>7604526
beckett
>>7604326
praise God
>>7604326
If you've got to do wrong, at least do it right, and be honest about it.
Be good to every soul, especially those who are alone and need it.
The concept of "true love" or "true friendship" itself is romanticized and every single person is more than capable of acts of betrayal, but one should accept this and make the best out of it by bettering oneself and influencing others instead of making it worse by devolving into misanthropy.
>>7604326 Patriotism and love are one and the same, both are sinful and manipulable.
At least I tried
>>7604326
Isolationism is the truest form of Freedom
Do whatever you like so long as you don't unnecessarily negatively affect someone else (i.e. coercion, manipulation, violent force, etc.).
>>7614859
okay nas
>>7612405
okay bathroom stall wall
>>7613389
okay stoic emo kid
>>7612395
okay anyone
>>7611868
okay joe
>>7611748
okay producer
>>7611204
okay anime master of secret society
>>7611722
okay final fantasy porn slave
>>7611196
okay non-sentence writer
>>7611169
okay misinterpreter of shit
>>7611129
okay declarative deliberator.
>>7610903
okay sjw.
>>7610834
okay obfuscater.
>>7609263
okay comma forgetter.
>>7609247
okay wilde.
>>7609067
okay but what if we die between now and tomorrow dumb-man question mark
>>7618725
What's that on your ear there? It's! Well it's just a fragment of Slave Morality.
>>7618739
*Master/Slave morality, ya jiggaboo
>>7618738
>okay bathroom stall wall
Nah brah I'm more like the ink text written in a rare copy of a good book. The janitor isn't gonna scrub me away!
Homework is BS! Homework is BS!!
Chill the fuck out.
>>7604326
We are.
When death isn't isn't, we are; when death is, we aren't anymore.
Simple as that.
Nihilism no more.
>>7604326
Love is good and hate is bad.
>>7604326
It's the same wish that I have for my life as a whole.
He was a good man.
People don't change. You can try to change, and you can pretend to be the person you wanted to change into, and in effect you will be no different than if you had changed, except that it will require constant unceasing effort on your behalf to maintain your pretensions, and the slightest lapse will send you sliding immediately back to who you were before. Someone who is "naturally" that person maintains their behaviour without effort - someone who changes into that person will never do anything more than pretend, and the pretension will be constant and demanding.
It's why anti-suicide activists kill themselves out of the blue 30 years after they "beat" it. They never beat it. It was hounding them for the entire time, and all they ever did was pretend. It's why fat people who lose weight get fat again. It's why criminals reoffend despite their best intentions. Plus, you have so little control over your upbringing that you have practically zero input into what your "natural" state is going to be. You might as well be born that way for all you can change it. In this sense, some people are simply born to be miserable. Some people are born broken and they will never be mended.
This is why the "utopian" ideologies fail. People will never be more than who they were born to be.
>>7619112
I changed.
I'm not going to give you my entire backstory, but I did and I did it for the better. Stop projecting your own misery on the rest of humanity.
>>7619127
See you in 10 years.
Consciousness ceases to be and is replaced by another one every passing moment for all eternity.
>>7618738
>okay sjw
>freedom of speech
>sjw
>free speech
>S
>J
>W
I don't think you have a very firm grasp on the concept of "SJW," anon...
>>7604526
Btfo
>>7619243
okay fsw.
>>7619112
Soon we'll start engineering better people though.
Art doesn't matter when you have memes.
>>7619112
I actually really like this and can relate. It's interesting to observe and actually not that depressing when you think about it. You were created a certain way and that is the original state you always will be. Embrace it
>>7619112
Nah. People are constantly changing. It's just your brain fucking with you, being the little greedy shit it is, it's trying to make you mathematically calculate your life so you can derive some solid result from it. And whether you win or lose, the result will be a lot more secure than not knowing. Because that's what's really scaring you; or would you not be an evil man, provided you couldn't be a good one, so long as you weren't a nobody? You would always choose hell and heaven existing, so long as you knew there was something after death. And you would choose to suffer, and not be happy, provided "you" still existed.
The truth is that you don't know. Someone who's trying to abstain could last a couple days, some months, a few years, the rest of his life, or he could get rolled over by a car the next morning. That they managed to abstain for the rest of their life, or couldn't, or didn't even begin, it doesn't matter; neither is evidence for what will happen in all cases.
Someone who killed themself after 30 years... From your own point of view how can you say it wasn't in his nature to commit suicide 30 years later? How do you know it wasn't their "struggle" that really pushed them, that they wouldn't have committed suicide if they had not tried to fight it, or if they had tried once and failed? How can you say they "lost", if they survived 30 years? Why should it be deppressing that they did, or their nature at fault? Who's to say they wouldn't have suffered more, had they lived? Do you feel the same about cancer patients, for example?
All this jibber-jabber about real and fake is so petty, if you ask me. People are capable of living through so many things, losing their memory, their family, their bodies, their country, their home, and so on, and they do this all the time. Don't fool yourself, you are dying; we all are. Whatever praises or moral high ground you get will not give you the time lost back, because they are all imagined. It does not make it "all worth it". Get your mind out of your ass. Stop measuring yourself, then feeling elated when you turn out better than others, or sad when you wish you were as others, like somehow the measuring hadn't happened and that was reality. Forget reality. Forget whatever idea you have of yourself. Forget about degrees. Look at death in the face every morning. If you want something out of your life, if you really want it out, take it out completely.
You won't be saved. You won't win. So long as you live it won't end. No buts.
Reality will always pale in comparison to the narratives in our minds
Hegel was right
>>7620032
About what?
>>7620022
... Says the narrative in your mind, which is inevitably ignorant of many aspects of reality
Humans by nature will never be perfect but humans by nature will always strive for perfection.
Any search for truth or meaning is pointless, the only way to find meaning in life is through self-sacrifice and empathy.
See everything from behind the veil of ignorance.
it's a tossup between two sentences.
Sometimes sand gets locked in your head and you make it into a human pearl.
or
I've been waiting for so long for you to say those words to me in the hollow of my, our, your mind, what sense is ownership in a business built for no one, in a system where no one leads, one must only act to save the dick.
That the adventures we read about in books pale in comparison to the wonders open to us in our real lives, should we choose the brave path.
STUART GOODMAN IN THIRD GRADE WAS WRONG, I AM COOL AND GREAT, AND EVERYONE WILL REMEMBER ME FOREVER, FUCK YOU STUART
>>7604532
Zizek on modern Fascism.mp4
>>7604326
Why is there tragic absurdity instead of a black and white dichotomy as we want it?
>>7624094
>pale in comparison to the wonders open to us in our real lives
not this meme again
>>7607648
Honestly one of the best in the thread. Unoriginal maybe but not tired, cliché, edgy...
>>7604326
there are pretty things
>>7625509
Thanks anon. I like when the banal reality, odd characters, and spirituality are juxtaposed
Because I feel that's what life really is
Left alone in absolute, mankind would dwindle into a shadow of what could be -- praying and begging for the righteous, fulfilled life; abandoned for the short, bestial, solitary life; a life filled with hate.
The universe is incomprehensible and terrifying but we only get one crack at living in it so try and be nice to as many people as possible because they're in the same boat.
>>7618738
>okay misinterpreter of shit
>types "okay sjw" without understanding what a sjw is
You realize sjw fight for political correctness over freedom of speech at their worst?
God, can we make a general /r/books thread since apparently they won't fucking leave?
>>7607648
Sounds like John Self from Money: A Suicide Note
Heroism is on the actions, not the traits of the person.
Consciousness is a non-sequitur.
Life is violence.
>>7619722
Fantastic reply anon. I understand what you mean. Especially the bit about giving up the desire to measure oneself against the world. Also I like what you said about facing death and proceeding from there.
Have you read The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker?
Have you got any literature recommendations for the points up have propounded?
>>7619722
>will not give you the time lost back
what if you write a book about searching for it, and, like, the book is REALLY long
>>7604503
But that's wrong you mango
>>7628531
How is that wrong? It's literally everything
>>7604532
No, you weirdly obvious shoulder devil.
>>7606315
Nice
FUCKING SHIT DEATH WTF?!?
>>7618738
Okay Cracked
>>7628068
I'm ashamed to say I can't recommend much because I'm not a very avid reader, and often do with whatever bits of information flow my way; however I can tell you Taoism though in particular has influenced me (I'm also >>7604538), and these days I've found myself coming back to the Tao Te Ching and what little has survived of Yang Zhu in the Liezi (more on that in a bit).
As for Becker's book, I haven't read it, but reading a summary, I can see why you brought it up and say that I've had similar understandings; people not only reproduce biologically, but also ideologically, and artificial selection (if you would) is just as in play as natural selection. Just think of all the rewriting a book goes through, for example, it's simply a process of selection by which the author attempts to make their ideas better received (i.e. reproduced more, both in physical and mental copies). All this is of course the logical conclusion of biological reproduction, to generate something that will survive it. However, I'm not it's the case that we are denying death; rather, it might be that death exists so life can propagate, but I'm getting long winded and I'm about to try to be a prophet.
Back to recommendations, Yang Zhu's Garden of Pleasure was posted here on /lit/ a while back, and it's been ringing true with me these days and it's short enough that can be reread easily: http://sacred-texts.com/tao/ycgp/index.htmhttp://sacred-texts.com/tao/ycgp/index.htm
From the first chapter:
>THE VANITY OF FAME
>YANG CHU, when travelling in Lu, put up at Meng Sun Yang's.
>Meng asked him: "A man can never be more than a man; why do people still trouble themselves about fame?"
>Yang Chu answered: "If they do so their object is to become rich."
>Meng: "But when they have become rich, why do they not stop?"
>Yang Chu said: "They aim at getting honours."
>Meng: "Why then do they not stop when they have got them?"
>Yang Chu: "On account of their death."
>Meng: "But what can they desire still after their death?"
>Yang Chu: "They think of their posterity."
>Meng: "How can their fame be available to their posterity?"
>Yang Chu: "For fame's sake they endure all kinds of bodily hardship and mental pain. They dispose of their glory for the benefit of their clan, and even their fellow-citizens profit by it. How much more so do their descendants! Howbeit it becomes those desirous of real fame to be disinterested, and disisterestedness means poverty; and likewise they must be unostentatious, and this is equivalent to humble condition."
>How then can fame be disregarded, and how can fame come of itself?
>The ignorant, while seeking to maintain fame, sacrifice reality. By doing so they will have to regret that nothing can rescue them from danger and death, and not only learn to know the difference between ease and pleasure and sorrow and grief.
In would like people to be more aware of exactly what the rapid progress in media technology using the internet as a distribution platform will do to society; people need to understand that it will lead to a complete breakdown of physical interaction and real conversation, especially at the point where virtual reality is perfected, and people also need to realise the short-term affects of instant a gratification media on (particularly) children, and the developmental and psychological problems this will cause for the younger generations.
>>7628535
It is probably my projection that you mean live well, or something.
That is wrong, being alone kills you, and a man unable to die and still always alone would be a horror story.
You can't emancipate a man from his hindbrain
>>7628666
That is what dogs are for. Give em cuddles. ( but now you see all the shitty dog owners dragging their dogs while they are stuck scrolling through their email logs)
>>7628691
I don't mean live well at all.
There's no reason for life, there's no reason to achieve or elevate. Since the beginning of time, every existing being has sought only to produce a legacy to outlast himself because it is daunting to have wasted existence on one lifetime. Life is meaningless other than to exist. It's why everything procreates. God was created as the ultimate because he is and always will be. God is the human ambition, the foreverthing. If man would not die, if he knew of his eternal existence, there would be no strive, there would be nothing. It's completely unattainable but it's the ultimate state of being.
Disclaimer: I'm so drunk but I'm trying to explain myself
>>7604534
Ohhh Noam, you jokester.
>>7605326
Enlightenment is finding humor in all suffering and all life. Isn't this literally what Siddhartha was about?
>>7604503
This is the only perfect truth
>>7604326
Life can be beautiful, yes, but very often it is horrible, pathetic, and brief, so please, please, please, just be good to one another.
>>7619722
My God, anon.
>>7606161
Which work to start with?
>>7628559
i liked this one
Society and the many hypocrisies surrounding mental disorders
Live Laugh Love ;^)
Suicide is selfish and life always gets better : )
>>7604326
If no one reads it, you never wrote it.
>>7618776
yeS!!
\m/
>>7604326
"I had a an incredibly large penis"
Did he brave the storm? Yes. Did he come out stronger or does he walk with his head bowed down.
