Hey /lit/, what's some good stuff to read about stoicism? Primary or secondary sources welcome.
I've ready Aurelius, Epictetus, Seneca's letters. Who else?
Also some book on εὐδαιμονία and what it meant to the different Greeks/Romans would be cool.
Epicurus
>>7591295
No, don't do that.
Chapter X of Spengler's Decline...
>>7591295
Epicurænism is childish hedonism.
>>7591931
Whatever you say, Nietzsche wannabee
>>7591931
then we should strive to be like children
>>7591948
>>7591952
Solely diving into your pleasures and pursuing them results in quick anhedonia. Fucks you up. The desire of the object is more powerful than the object. Limit yourself.
>>7591973
what exactly do you think Epicureanism is?
>>7591295
>Epicureanism was originally a challenge to Platonism, though later it became the main opponent of Stoicism
>>7591973
You know fuck all about Epicureanism. Stop posting.
'The philosophy of Epicurus (341–270 B.C.E.) was a complete and interdependent system, involving a view of the goal of human life (happiness, resulting from absence of physical pain and mental disturbance), an empiricist theory of knowledge (sensations, together with the perception of pleasure and pain, are infallible criteria), a description of nature based on atomistic materialism, and a naturalistic account of evolution, from the formation of the world to the emergence of human societies.'
>>7591973
"The greatest wealth is to live content with little, for there is never want where the mind is satisfied." - Lucretius, Epicurean Philosopher
Only problem with Stocism is the requirement of God. I can't reconcile myself to that. Might as well become a Christian.
>>7592157
>2016
>being this much of a fedora reddit fag
>>7592633
> you can only think what I think.
A humans individual freedom is a precious thing.
>>7591931
>æ
*tips*
>>7592157
>stoic god is pretty much the Christian god Lmao
Get educated.
Also op check out musonius Rufus. He was epictetus' teacher
>>7592157
Just become Muslim, you'll be happier tbqh familia senpai desu chief
>>7592157
Well you're in the wrong place kiddo
/lit/ is a Christian board. I suggest you try r/books
>>7592731
>implications
OP here. Bump. Come on, I know there's a few well educated philosophy fags here who can suggest something for me.
Just grab a copy (it's on the interwebs too) of John Sellars' 'Stoicism' and head straight to "Guide to further reading".
>>7591295
His stance on happiness was indeed quite flawed. Yet his contributions to philosophical materialism/naturalism are still interesting, in so far as to see early examples of it.
>>7593568
>insinuating
>>7591931
Negative hedonism is the most sophisticated and grown up hedonism and the end game of ethics, silly :)
>>7594712
>Ethics
>end game
To Nietzsche you go, silly.
>>7594734
Nietzsche is a great critic but his positive contribution is pretty much a failure.
He knew this himself, that's why he cancelled his announced magnum opus and cannibalized what little he did have to publish his last few works.
