i know lotta fellas who didnt like GR love this book
quesdtion to people who DO like or love GR
does this book ever pick up in the way GR does?
its my last pynchon book to read, around page ~200 and its enjoyable but pretty slow going and not really gripping me
does it fly into high gear shortly or is it a pretty tame novel thru and thru?
thanks
eat shit and die
It's pretty consistent but has, if not heights, then at least memorable passages. IIRC by p200 most of those are yet to come, but you should be getting used to it and reading at cruise speed
>>7538735
this thread has a lot of potential
>>7538716
I'm going to read this as my first book of the year, I'd read nearly a third of it several years ago but became severely confused when reading it in the hospital while on morphine. I'm looking to forward to remembering stuff and hopefully being able to get more out of it now.
>>7538737
Like anyone believes that! (Hehe!!)
what order should i read pynchon in
>>7538737
in what way? im op
>>7538850
release order
>>7538850
gr-> lot 49-> v -> the rest
or baby mode
inherent vice -> lot 49 -> gr > the rest
Last 1/3rd of Against the Day > Mason & Dixon > Gravity's Rainbow > V > 1st & 2nd thirds of Against the Day > Everything else
don't read bleeding edge first - it's deceptively simple
people said it was minor pynchon when it came out, but anyone who's been following the discussion knows now that it's certainly major - perhaps more major than anything he's ever written
Mason & Dixon is his most sentimental and the novel where he ultimately relinquishes some of the academic distance he maintains in his other novels. The last part of the book is worth everything you read. Better than GR and V and I love both of those works.
I consider this to be his magnum opus
>>7538871
What's so hard about the last 1/3rd of Against the Day? (Assuming that you made that list in order of his hardest works.)
>>7538883
he didn't
>>7538876
Read Bleeding Edge last summer. Why is it so major? It's pretty bold in the way it indicts the military-industrial complex in 9/11, but it also felt like it was going obnoxiously far out of its way to prove the author isn't an antisemite.
>>7538883
poster you're referring to here
I wrote it in the order of which are best, not hardest
>>7538900
maybe P just likes jews
he being from a rich family and all
>>7538919
He's from a super-WASP Mayflower family. His wife is probably related to some Jews though, being a Roosevelt.
But for real, Pynchon definitely has a thing for Jewish women. There's some pretty intense stuff about that in V.
>>7538928
>There's some pretty intense stuff about that in V.
i think you're confusing a criticism of plastic surgeries for a fetishization of the jewish nose
but either way
>for real, Pynchon definitely has a thing for Jewish women
WOW gee what a deviant
>>7538961
I guess it's not actually that intense but I thought some of his descriptions of Rachel and the kind of relationship Profane has with her seemed inspired by a little bit of a fetish.
Hey man, I've got the yellow fever in a bad way so I'm not judging.
>>7538981
was rachel a jew? i've forgotten that
but she was also a 4" tall HIGH TEST redhead + impulsive gearhead
jewish background or no she's not exactly a good symbol of the people as a whole
>>7538981
Pynchon has lived in New York for decades
it has a massive jewish community
oy vey
>>7538999
Even if she wasn't labelled as Jewish (I think she was and that the plastic surgeon is very interested in her nose), I so strongly associate tiny high test women from New York in nice cars with God's chosen people that I would still argue that she's low-key Jewish (I went to a university with a lot of Jews from New York).
>>7539005
oy gevalt
>>7539015
okay you win
i've never lived in a jewish area and didn't know those were namely jewihs features
>>7539042
>he doesn't know about Jewbies
Let me enlighten you. And yes, they tend to be short and short-waisted so their asses are decent as well.
