What are some great "women will never understand"-core books?
I'll start
Female PKK fighters probably understand it better than men who have never fought in a war.
>>7494733
>>7494733
>What are some great "women will never understand"-core books?
Pretty much any book
every book by Remarque
2bh, my diary
>>7494807
Why do you think they wouldn't understand Three Comrades?
>>7494733
Every time I see /r9k/ post here..it pleases me to know that another one of you loser fucks has killed himself somewhere. And there is a good chance that tomorrow you will.
>>7494883
i admire your attempt to out-edge r9k
>>7494733
The Bible
The Illiad
The Odyssey
Plato's Dialogues
Beowulf
The Divine Comedy
The Canterbury Tales
Don Quixote
The works of Shakespeare
Paradise Lost
Tristram Shandy
The Red and the Black
Moby-Dick
Leaves of Grass
The Brothers Karamazov
War and Peace
The Golden Bowl
In Search of Lost Time
Ulysses
The Trial
The Sound and the Fury
The short stories of Borges
The plays of Beckett
>>7494906
You must know some dumb-fuck women.
>>7494883
>he didn't see the /books men will never understand/ thread that this thread is a response to
Welcome newfriend
>>7494733
>>7494930
Yawnsville
>>7494869
this desu
>>7494937
Stop forcing this meme
>>7494744
>female PKK fighters
lol, the few of them that haven't been utterly BTFO by now
>>7495002
I speak the truth.
>>7495006
madoka did it better.
The Sun Also Rises
>>7494883
No need to be upset friendo :-)
>>7494883
Now i'm not going to kill myself, just to spite you.
Anything about loneliness or depression.
>>7495027
>watching meme anime
>>7495166
Are women incapable of feeling depression or loneliness? I am a man and I'm constantly feeling both.
>>7494733
Andrea Dworkin
>>7495399
Are chinamen and niggers incapable of feeling depression or loneliness? I am an Aryan and I'm constantly feeling both.
>>7495006
strangely enough, that's my mom's favorite book and author
>>7495436
Your mother pretends to like books?
i love the amount of asspain these threads cause
>>7495436
>Implying she gets it
I am not a fan of /r9k/ but if they keep reddit away thy can stay as far as I'm concerned.
>>7495485
/r9k/ is literally reddit + honesty
>>7495399
Nowhere near the degree men feel it. It really just comes down to the simple fact that the male and female experience are fundamentally different on a systemic level. A woman is coddled her entire life, told she has inherent value, she's constantly given preferential treatment and relationships will just fall into her lap. A woman will rarely have to face any form of adversity because everything in her life is given on a silver platter.
>>7495533
>implying this hard
>>7495430
>Aryan = male
>Chinamen, "niggers" = women
That is brilliant! Thank God!
>>7494906
> Iliad
> Odyssey
Ma nigga.
>>7495542
>meme arrow substitutes for actual argument
>>7495533
This is correct. Men are disposable, and nobody gives a shit about our lives except for our bros and our family. It's freeing once you realize this, to be honest.
>>7495533
This isn't true of all women. Don't be irrational.
>>7495587
Yes it is. The very fact that they have a vagina gives them inherent worth and society treats them accordingly.
>>7495595
Is this why all women live in the lap of luxury and literally none of them has a shitty job?
>>7495533
L O L
I can tell you haven't ever worked a full time job in your life in anything approaching a respectable career otherwise you couldn't hold those beliefs
>>7495533
I don't know, man, in my job I've met a lot of women who pull their weight, and women who have had, and still have, really shitty lives.
>>7494746
I'd honestly buy this.
>>7495608
I recommend you read up on these things called logical fallacies. Until then,
SHOO SHOO ROAST BEEF.
>>7495613
Thanks for your anecdotal evidence. Really changed my perspective.
>>7495599
Women ... job???
>>7495533
Haha. Are you serious? Despite the fact that women can't get jobs in male dominated sectors, relationships are just as hard to get with someone you actually like and all that aside 99% of the world is still remarkably sexist and women are made to stay to the home. Maybe in some very exceptional countries women have the same opportunities as men but by no means even a slight majority.
>>7494926
>using newfriend
>/lit/
Please leave /b/
>>7495019
They're doing a damn good job against ISIS
>>7495640
True. No woman anywhere has a job.
>>7495647
>women can't get jobs in male dominated sectors
But it is the other way around, women have it way easier in fields were most of the workers are male, even in uni professors help women for being the minority in STEM courses. HR departments love having a strong base of women and so on.
There has never been a better time to be born as a woman.
>>7495649
>being this new
>>7495647
these delusions are straight out of tumblr.
>>7495647
Here's your reply.
>>7495670
This delusion is straight out of /pol/
>>7495838
/pol/ worships women. you're thinking of /r9k/
>>7494733
If you aren't a woman you can't tell, most of you are boys not men so wouldn't know what a book for men is yet without someone telling you.
>>7495838
Wrong strawman, roastie.
>>7495027
>madoka did it better.
what
>>7494733
Anything by Hemmingway
>>7495166
>women will never get loneliness and depression
>8 books by women on the list
C'mon, son.
>>7494733
I read Storm of Steel as more of an historical document than literature, framing it, I think appropriately, as a proto-fascistic work. The ending passage is particularly haunting with the hindsight of what the next generation of Germans end up fighting so bravely for. Funny to talk about women not understanding the beginnings of an ideology that holds misogyny as a core tenant.
When I read it I was helping my European history professor decide whether to assign Storm of Steel or Not So Quite by Evadne Price to help contextualize WWI with a work of fiction. We went with Not So Quiet because it is not only a better war document, (not so blatantly embellished and valorized like Junger), but is also far better written.
But yeah, women don't understand.
>>7496202
stop aping your disgusting liberal college professors please
literally goodreads review tier
>>7496202
how is misogyny a core tenant of fascism
>>7496202
Ernst Junger wasn't too happy when the Nazi's paraded him around as a war hero. I'm not sure where you got the idea that he was a proto-fascist and if I remember correctly the introduction in the penguin edition makes it clear that he wasn't.
>>7494906
you can't be serious
>>7494733
my diary, desu
Can you guys stop being fucking misogynistic? /r9k/ is thataway
>>7494883
Fuck off mate. They're horrible posts and horrible people, but they're not beyond redemption.
>>7494906
>In Search of Lost Time
kek'd
>>7495533
Replace women with millennials and your post still works. Even better, actually.
>>7495647
>women can't get jobs in male dominated sectors
Every engineering student I've talked to has complained about the amount of women-only job placements they get spammed with in their university inbox.
>>7495533
This is true.
>>7494883
I can almost smell the period blood
>>7495042
My ex-girlfirend's favourite Hemingway novel...
Anything by Neil Strauss. Outside of that one book, he's a less shitty Gladwell.
anything thats not YA trash. women have shit taste in art. they will simply never experience a whole spectrum of emotions and feeling like men can. they cant appreciate work that reflects what they have never known.
The answer OP, is anything about war, religion, and true individuality.
Women may "get it" on a shallow level, as though there is some secret one-liner answer to the assumed question. They might be able to analyze it objectively, many women love deconstructionism and enjoy reducing things to base because they have no real connection to things. They are frivolous and shallow.
>War
Men are natural warriors, this is who we are. While many men (especially millennials) have totally lost connection to this, the military can still "make a soldier out of you by stripping away the domestication and returning you to your natural state. This is why all men enjoy war, whether it be violent games in the playground, paintball, films, books, or the real thing. Women can understand war as much as men can understand motherhood; a detached incomplete understanding.
>Religion
Women are normally attracted to the sentimental and "love" messages of the Bible. Religious women are often universalists and support liberation theology and "all dogs go to heaven". The sublimity of the Bible is largely lost on them. Religion to women is just one of the many instructors in their life, women would often vote how their priests voted.
>True Individuality
This leads on from the second point and is really exemplified by the difference between Sartre and Beauvoir, Paine and Wollstonecraft. Women on the whole lack individuality. Some possess it in a very shallow sense, their idea of individuality only ever amounts to joining group that is smaller than the one she left. Women are biologically hard wired to act this way. Individualism is not a necessary trait for women, much the same as being funny is surplus to their function.
This is why I laugh when women claim that Nietzsche is their favorite philosopher as it demonstrates their lack of understanding in these three areas.
Before flaming this post really sit on it and you know it's true. There are some things men will never truly understand, and some things women will never understand.
>>7496919
>anything thats not YA trash
This.
Books about loneliness, depression and honor.
>>7495647
>relationships are just as hard to get with someone you actually like
this proves you're a woman.
women can go through dozens and dozens of boyfriends until they find someone they "actually like." any little flaw can disturb their "actual like." they have no sense of commitment or loyalty, or the idea that a relationship deepens the longer you spend with someone. they just look at the very surface and expect you to entertain them. that's what "actual like" means.
however,
you're right to say that this is mostly a first world/global north phenomenon. but that is where you and i live. and the effect that relationships have on the meaning of a person's life is not to be underestimated. many, if not most, if not all people would likely prefer a drastic reduction of their own means if it meant having meaningful relationships with others in their community. those who wouldn't probably aren't very stressed out about the situation with women.
moving closer to the latter has been of infinite benefit to my mental well-being. women are not to be trusted on the romantic front. that is where the idea of "woman" appears most vividly and that is where it is at its absolute darkest. the is hardly a political stance. it is a deeply private, emotional/experiential one. but the patterns that cause it repeat themselves. i will not venture to legislate on just what should be done, if anything.
all i know is i would only trust a woman who has had similar experiences to myself regarding relationships. and the rarity of this attests to the very problem of which i speak.
>>7496979
Jesus Christ you're a faggot.
Tell me all about your combat experience, true-born warrior man.
>This is why all men enjoy war
Oh my god this post is terrible.
>>7497025
I'm sorry you had a shitty mother anon, but all these claims are completely baseless.
>>7494906
What makes you think YOU understand them?
>>7497031
you obviously don't understand what he's saying
>violent games in the playground, paintball, films, books, or the real thing
war is not just limited to combat.
>hurrr women is stupid
>i am smart
ITT: virgins mad hilary is going to win the election and women are finally getting rights. you neckbears are a dying breed.
>>7496797
That's because they can't fill 'em, let alone keep 'em. We'll hire women and if we're luck they'll stay for a year, before ruthlessly abusing maternity leave, sick pay etc. and then eventually leaving.
ITT: men who don't understand women but think they understand them enough to understand what women don't understand because they resent women for not sleeping with them or breaking their heart once in 7th grade
>1st world women don't have rights
>2015
pick one
>>7494733
ITT: Misogynists can't get laid and are angry. Read some Dworkin.
>>7497449
(You)
>>7497449
Is it weird that I kind of agree with Dworkin that all heterosexual sex is rape on some level?
>>7497482
Probably.
>>7497449
in case you didn't notice misogynists get the most pussy
>>7497482
i'm sorry but you're mentally ill
>>7496256
He's hailed as part of the Revolutionary Conservative movement, but that makes little difference to liberal keks.
By "proto-fascist", they literally mean someone who proudly lives their life in the Will to Power. They say the same thing about Mishima
>>7495847
>>7497066
>war is not just limited to combat.
All that other stuff is a pale substitute. A woman in a war zone understands armed conflict better than a man who has never experienced it. Are you telling me that an American teenaged boy understands war better than say, a woman who was in the Polish resistance in WWII? Than a female Soviet sniper in the same conflict? Than a female child soldier in Africa (10-30% of child soldiers are female)?
http://lithub.com/80-books-no-woman-should-read/
>>7497923
painful
>>7497449
>>7497482
>>>Tumblr
>>7497923
>Hemingway is evil, I can't understand how men like him!
every time
>>7494744
You mean PKK propaganda models who pose as fighters to harness Western sympathy?
My Twisted World, by Elliot Rodger
I can't imagine a female liking Kipling's poetry.
>>7498071
prove that YOU understand it, Sport, and that you're not just another /lit/ poseur
>>7498114
i understand it because i'm a man
now gtfo
>>7498116
>i'm a man
I sincerely doubt that - a boy, maybe
>>7498114
>prove that you understand it
>sport
>another /lit/ poseur
kek
>>7498124
even if i were a boy i would still have the potential of being a man, and understanding it in some years
you can't do it, just leave
>>7497431
pretty much this.
>>7498154
Thanks, Marry.
Hemingway sure is incomprehensible, huh?
>>7496202
Have you actually read the book?
Junger does not 'embellish' or 'valorize' anything. There are repeated passages that explain and refrain back to Junger calling his comrades brothers not so much because of some imagined nationalism that you Liberal hooligans like to imagine and place on a piece of literature you've never even absorbed, but rather because they all think themselves to be men doing a duty, and that is to defend their state. That he does give the name 'coward' or look down on some people for certain things only gives us Ernst's perspectives.
It goes into great depth about trench assault, warfare, morale, the tactics of 1917-1918, the War of Materiel, and you want to toss it aside for some cunt ambulance driver who wants to write another, "War is bad, I saw sum shit n it was nawt gud"? I mean really, a fucking ambulance driver over the memoirs of an NCO in the trenches?
You are confirmed for trying to mislead and misinform. You should leave this board and reconsider what your values on life are.
>What are some great "women will never understand"-core books?
If it's "literature," women can't understand it.
They're better at pretending with certain genres, like fiction, but even then they're just enjoying the petty emotional drama.
Women are incapable of heights and lows. They just exist. They're what you would be like if someone took away your soul. Just a fat lazy thing that fundamentally conceives of the universe in terms of whining until someone adjusts things to its liking.
>>7497431
remember: when threatened, make sure to relate everything back to the intrinsic worth of vaginas
>you really need to bag the customer's goods faster, mary
>YOU'RE JUST SAYING THAT BECAUSE WOMEN WON'T FUCK YOU AND YOU'RE TOO PATHETIC TO GET WOMEN TO FUCK YOU
>mary you're becoming belligerent
>KEEP SAYING THAT AND I WON'T FUCK YOU!!! IN FACT NO WOMEN WILL FUCK YOu! VIRGIN! VIRGIN FOREVER!!
like clockwork every time
i thank god every day that i am an AIDS-ridden faggot
>>7498225
My wife, existential tuning fork. Tap her and she fucking resonates.
>>7498239
It's as good as the counter argument: you will never understand because I say so. I know what you inner life is like because I think I do and I say it's insufficient because then I can feel superior. I can't prove I'm right but you can't prove I'm wrong ahahaha!
>>7495166
>Death of a Salesman
>depressing
This thread is full of men making claims to intellectual superiority without presenting any argument at all. It's nothing but tragically transparent bitter bitching. Baseless claims, all of them.
I'd advise you all to read "What's it like to be a bat?" by Nagel.
>>7498343
>recommending Nagel, the only philosopher of mind so pleb that even Pleb Emperor Dennett can spend essays upon essays humiliating him
Nagel confirmed for "so bad at philosophy that he's literally for women" tier
>>7498225
>That picture
Are women stupid because they don't message you and want to go on dates with you?
You fucking child.
>>7498345
Great critique. Fine posturing.
Have you read the text? Do you have an intelligent rebuttal you'd care to share instead of vomiting memes in lieu of thought?
>>7498346
No, they're stupid because they have inferior brains.
>>7495647
People are different and that isn't bad.
Women staying at home it's not bad.
>>7497482
like dworkin you're probably projecting some sick rape fetish you have
>>7497559
Dunno about Junger because I haven't read him, but it's pretty accurate about Mishima (btw, you don't need to be a Hitler /pol/faggot fanboy to have obvious proto-fascist tendences).
Even thought Mishima's mainly a traditionalist he's very influenced by western culture. Not only that he tried to find a way to return aesthetic value to politics (as he understood was the case of pre-WWII Japan), which itself tends inevitabily to fascism, but also on his extreme nationalism, his autarchic views on foreing affairs, his cult to death, his will to die for something greater that would give his life a mystic meaning and even on the fucking uniforms he designed you can see obvious fascist influences.
Yes, Mihsima is the perfect example of what being a "proto-fascist" means. And not because of some faggy shit about stronk will.
>>7498185
>Liberal hooligans
lol
This whole post is pure butthurt. is this what you do when someone doesn't think like you? Cry like a bitch? Junger wouldn't be so proud of you, m8.
>>7497108
>neckbears
>dying breed
Neckbeard are the end of their family line almost by definition. Nah, they won't become extinct.
>>7494733
>le I never personally fought in a war but they were the same gender as me so I understand it
>>7494926
>being so insecure and passive-aggressive as to create a thread "in response" to another, unrelated thread
I really cannot understand how you function in society.
>>7494906
rofl
you must not have met many english teachers
>>7495023
anybody who claims the truth is lying
>>7498777
>I really cannot understand how you function in society.
>posts anime
>>7495533
You haven't met my sister. 7 Facebook friends, steps out of the house once a week for school, otherwise wouldn't leave, basically r9k with a vagina personified.
>>7498797
GTFO. You have no response. You are literally on suicide watch. Misogynists on suicide watch. Back to Reddit.
>>7495533
I really love that pic. Yes, because of my penis, I hold a terrible burden. The White Man's Burden is dead, long live The Man's Burden!
>>7498797
Sup reddit
>>7498802
>Facebook friends
>r9k
>>7498805
shoo shoo roast beef.
>>7495558
>trying to argue with r9k
engaging with the mentally ill isn't productive, anon.
>>7495595
are you saying you want to be coddled like the hypothetical woman in this scenario?
Really just cut your dick off, you fucking bitch. I know women supporting their families as primary breadwinners who are manlier than you.
>>7498817
did you even read the attached image or do you just have poor reading comprehension?
>>7498815
wut. re-read those posts again, this time follow the comment chain carefully.
>>7498814
It is not roast beef. It is tight and swarming with juices.
>>7498833
nice try roastie, but every "female" who posts on 4chan is a guaranteed roastie.
>>7498824
Yea. /r9k/ just bitches at women instead of an actual argument.
>>7496979
I have never seen someone this deluded about gender socialization until now. Congratulations.
Poe's Law is the true law of the Internet.
>>7497045
50s cents mother was gay and he wrote a book about it
poster child of r9k
>>7497502
>Misogynists get the most pussy.
Wut? For all their complaining, it's the nice guys who just act like themselves who get all the pussy.
>>7498839
/r9k/ is male Tumblr. They think males are discriminated against and that Stacies are holding them down.
>>7498088
I didn't understand it either.
>>7498225
ahahahaha the bitterness and resentment it must have taken to assemble this picture
do you know if there's a repository of these? These are hilarious. The pics of Schopenhauer just fucking make it. From the original robot to his descendants. I suppose the difference was that Schopenhauer was actually smart and didn't dedicate his life to screaming about inequality like a tumblr SJW
>>7498431
wow. this is definite proof of cognitive capacity, because that is defined by brain mass. Congratulations, you have solved all ambiguities in neuroscience! How does it feel to be so brilliant you drew an inductive claim from an empirical observation from a completely unrelated article? I bet it feels pretty good! Look at you, using that 27 000 km extra of myelinated fiber for the good of humanity
>>7498846
>it's the nice guys who just act like themselves who get all the pussy
lol you're deluded as fuck or a woman. If you've ever talked to anyone that could be considered "chad" you would realize most of them hold many of the same views /r9k/ holds. zyzz being a prime example.
>>7498797
I'd take anime over Ernst Junger, tbqh
at least anime is a self-aware caricature
>>7498866
You're welcome to do your own research, but almost every single study on IQ shows that the male brain is on average 5-10 IQ points above the female brain.
>>7498822
Please, I've read all this shit, on r9k, on wizchan, on pol, on reddit. One thing that's really great about the MRA movement is how they bitch about tumblr but turn right around and use tumblr's tactics to bitch about "men's rights". If men are so superior, then why don't you act like it, you piece of shit? You think whining on the internet all day is what you should do, as a "superior man"? If you're so morally, physically and intellectually superior to women, why are they constantly outsmarting you and taking your money in divorce settlements and living off your paychecks?
Go on, you ubermensch, you. I know you can do it. There's NO WAY you'd be some loser on the internet, right?
>>7494733
>>7498850
It's always great how oppositional extremist views end up being the same.
>>7498867
>Hold most of the views that /r9k/ holds
Then why hasn't /r9k/ gotten laid?
>>7498881
Yes, because IQ tests are a worthwhile test of intelligence. Yeah, IQ is the sole determinant of worth, because we don't need athletes, construction workers and other physical occupations at all, right?
>>7498891
>this whole post
>being this triggered
This is why I love these threads. I can almost smell the period blood through these posts.
>>7498898
the back cover reads like homoerotic slash fiction.
>>7498900
Genetics.
>>7498903
Not even that anon but you have no response. You were BTFO but stay and whine on a Tibetan Yeti-sighting website.
>>7498912
>a Tibetan Yeti-sighting website
not bad to be honest
>>7498909
But women care more for the emotional security of a romance than the physical side. Men prefer the physical side of a relationship. Men do nothing to conceal it.
>>7498919
it's a female yeti. that's why OP is so scared
>>7498909
zyzz was on steroids. give me another excuse.
>>7498905
It's a really good book. Women probably could get it, but it's definitely very masculine, and no real female characters except ones that cheat on their male husbands. I suspect women just wouldn't like this book as much, even if they did recognize it was a work of great merit.
>>7498925
It looks like a bunch of moto bullshit. This is why I read history books and US Army War College papers when I read about war.
Also, women fought on the Soviet side in much worse conditions than Guadalcanal (Leningrad was a bitch), and also did crazy shit like >>7498771 , so I figure they would be able to "get it".
Try again. Or don't. Either way it'll help this thread die faster.
>>7498923
Prove it.
>>7498932
It was actually written by someone who had first hand combat experience, be wise and don't dismiss something you've never read yet but of course this is /lit/.
>>7498920
Keep telling yourself that. The only thing women want from a relationship is someone who is attractive and isn't horribly autistic.
>>7498069
No, I mean half of PKK forces.
>swallowing Western propaganda about the PKK
>complaining about PKK propaganda
>>7498932
Well, I'm obviously not going to argue with you, you sound like a horrible conversation partner.
>>7494744
Imagine being killed in combat by a woman. I can't think of a more pathetic way of going out.
>>7498933
There's no definite proof, but his family made a statement regarding his high blood pressure and shortness of breath (classic symptoms, also his dad is a cardiologist), which are definite side effects of anabolics. There's really only circumstantial evidence, but the fact that he was talking about "bicycles", his brother was arrested and fined for possession of steroids, and one of his employers making a casual statement regarding his steroid use ( http://www.baka.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/generation-v-buff-but-not-so-pretty-after-dark-20110901-1jnzw.html#ixzz1jCswUbhZ ). It's not conclusive, but it's enough for a court.
>>7498955
>There's no definite proof
stopped reading there.
>>7498945
How is it that you can be aware of this fact and still not understand why you can't get a date?
>>7498946
He probably watched that VICE video and took it as gospel.
>>7498950
I'm ok with that. I'm more or less surrounded by shit like this talking about OUR BOYS IN THE SANDBOX/TRENCHES/FRANCE and it gets incredibly annoying. I could barely sit through Band of Brothers' more 'Merica moments.
Generation Kill is pretty excellent though. Shame there isn't much in that vein for war lit.
>>7498953
Is it better to be killed by disease? The majority of casualties in pre-WW1 wars (Western wars) was to disease.
Also relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J93qm6XCT4Y
>>7498962
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumstantial_evidence
grats on not having the barest grasp of logic or argumentation. At least you fit in on r9k right?
>>7498771
Going on bombing runs in the middle of the night is not the same as actually fighting an enemy, at all.
>>7498945
So? All that men want is a woman who is attractive and not horribly autistic. What's the difference?
>>7498968
Regardless of the fact that he took steroids, it's pretty clear from his pre bulk pictures he had good genetics. Strong jawline, tall mesomorphic body type, blue eyes. He also had a girlfriend before he even got into lifting, so your argument is moot right off the bat.
>>7498968
>grats
Stopped reading there
>>7498976
iiiiight nigga.
"At its largest, it had 40 two-person crews. It flew over 23,000 sorties and is said to have dropped [2] 3,000 tons of bombs. It was the most highly decorated female unit in the Soviet Air Force, each pilot having flown over 800 missions by the end of the war and twenty-three having been awarded the Hero of the Soviet Union title."
"The regiment flew in wood-and-canvas Polikarpov Po-2 biplanes, a 1928 design intended for use as training aircraft and for crop-dusting, and to this day the most-produced biplane in aviation history. The planes could carry only six bombs at a time, so multiple missions per night were necessary. Although the aircraft were obsolete and slow, the pilots made daring use of their exceptional maneuverability; they had the advantage of having a maximum speed that was lower than the stall speed of both the Messerschmitt Bf 109 and the Focke-Wulf Fw 190, and as a result, German pilots found them very difficult to shoot down. An attack technique of the night bombers was to idle the engine near the target and glide to the bomb release point, with only wind noise left to reveal their location. German soldiers likened the sound to broomsticks and named the pilots "Night Witches."[4] Due to the weight of the bombs and the low altitude of flight, the pilots carried no parachutes.[5]"
I know you're the kind of person to ignore facts when presented to you, but I know you're also the kind of person to pick through it for any inconsistencies due to your autism. Enjoy this tale of heroism.
>>7498982
I'm very sorry for you.
Holy fucking shit.
I really hope this thread is just a symptom of the xmas influx and that soon we'll be back to comparing bookshelves, talking about spooks and complaining about capitalism.
>>7498979
There is no difference. I'm just responding to your claim that "women care more for the emotional security of a romance than the physical side". You seemed to be implying that some poor sap from /r9k/ could somehow snag a gf if he just acted more romantic or emotional, which is disingenuous, because everyone who lives in reality knows it fundamentally comes down to genetics.
>>7499002
>some poor sap from /r9k/ could snag a girl by being nicer
Wew lad. I didn't mean to imply that. I meant to imply that sexually women respond better to increased emotions than to physical images.
>>7498997
you think this is bad? you should see /his/. At least crossboarders attempt to disguise their invasions here.
>>7498989
>heroism
You don't understand what this word means. Cunning, perhaps, but heroic? Bullshit. Yes, they avoided death and bested their enemy. What did they sacrifice? What degree of courage is required to utilize an effective strategy successfully?
>>7498997
what's wrong with capitalism?
>>7499015
It rewards risk-taking, and women and faggots are risk-averse by nature.
>>7499019
i would consider being gay or a woman pretty risky
>>7499002
It also comes down to money. Plus "genetics" only accounts for so much, unless you have a chromosomal defect. The truth is these "chads" just take all the autismal energy r9k puts into rationalizing and shifting blame away from themselves and puts it into working out and getting an attractive (ie good) job. They're not exactly intellectually stimulating, but they
>>7499013
You think flying a wooden trainer biplane in a night bombing mission far behind enemy lines is easy? You think target identification with no bombing optics or auxiliary crew is easy? You want to dodge better trained pilots in planes literally decades ahead of yours, with better detection equipment, flying over their own territory, while you have to commit to multiple takeoffs due to how little your plane can carry.
Twenty three Hero of the Soviet Union medals. That's equivalent to the Medal of Honor. Here's an example of a woman who got it in ground combat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliya_Moldagulova
Took command of a battalion when the commander was MIA, took a land mine hit in CQC, died to a gunshot wound. Is that "hardcore" enough for you, COD kiddie?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nina_Onilova
here's a woman who crawled across twenty five yards of no man's land (aka literal suicide in the era of the MG) and took out a tank with two Molotov cocktails. Then she got promoted to sergeant, commanded an HMG position, and singlehandedly manned the gun (normally takes minimum two people to load and fire, and preferably a spotter as well) and continued fighting after the entire rest of her gun crew was killed.
The real shame is that most of these women didn't get the award until after the war due to discrimination. It wasn't as bad as black Medal of Honor recipients in WW2 who had to wait until 1997, but it's not exactly good either.
btw, any strategy dependent on "courage" is designed to fail. The French tried that in WW1 and it got them a mutiny.
>>7499032
whoops, forgot about my first post since I was having fun with history.
"Chads" aren't intellectually stimulating, but they're dependable and attractive, in both the physical and emotional sense (for what women look for in men)
>>7499019
it rewards access to capital and rents
>>7499002
this is true. there is no conceptual difference between genetics and fate.
>>7499040
Interesting take on determinism. So everyone with "bad genetics" should just give up? Man, I hope there's enough helium for the entirety of r9k!
>>7499015
I don't like the values it ends up promoting. I love all the cool shit it makes however.
I'm more interested in the analysis of how it works, how it effects people and how it's changed society, etc. /lit/ occasionally produces interesting discussions on the topic.
>>7499032
>getting an attractive
lol. straight out of /r/relationship advice. People don't "get attractive", you're either born with an attractive face or you're not. So long as you're not a obese landwhale, it should be fairly easy for someone to tell if they won the genetic lottery or not.
pic very related.
>>7499068
I said attractive job, numb nuts. Learn to read. Or were you only pretending to be retarded? Does your "genetics" prevent you from learning to squat?
Pussy.
>>7499015
capitalism is grand, but art demands to be free of it i feel.
not all things are served best when thrown into the hand of the market.
who knows.
i kind of feel like we should let those with an experiment try their shit. capitalism feels limiting at times, maybe there is a better way?
>>7499073
unless you like boipuss, squats aren't going to make you a chad
>>7499076
The issue with capitalism is that wealth seemingly refuses to follow a normal Pareto distribution and constantly accumulates at the top, while real wages stagnate. And revolutions kind of suck. This may be indicative of a global distribution of capital rather than a national one, but frankly I feel it's too early to tell. My issue with capitalism is that it's periodic, with growth alternating with recession/depression. It's not very stable. Then again neither are humans.
>>7499078
Confirmed for not reading SS. Wow, you don't even have an excuse, do you? You're literally the kind of loser who hasn't even tried, who lost before they even tried to play. Christ, I bet you would blame your inability to do pushups and C25K on "genetics" or whatever. Keep blaming those you consider weaker than you.
Stay weak, shitlord.
>>7499073
yeah, i think i am retarded. regardless, the rest of your post implied that one can become a "chad" and chads became chad through their own hard work and self-improvement, which isn't the case as the only requirement to being a chad is having an attractive face and not being a turbo autist.
>>7498274
Shut up slut you know he's right.
>>7499013
You've never been in a war, have you?
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>>7499093
Where did I say you can become a "chad"? Where did I say you SHOULD become a "chad"? All I said was that "chads" start out the same as you, o genetically-deficient lord. They just realize that creating copypasta bitching about how women won't fuck them is counterproductive and focus on making women fuck them.
Have you ever talked to a PUA? They're some of the biggest losers you'll ever meet. But they have a pretty solid difference to the average robot: they actually try. They have the balls to actually put all this dumb broscience into work (not like it matters anyway) to "prove their superiority" or whatever to manipulate women into having sex with them. And it works.
"Chads" don't necessarily work hard, because they just keep doing what they've been doing their entire lives. To a "chad", writing persuasive arguments like this for no gain or profit is immeasurably exhausting, but it isn't for you because you've been doing it for quite a long time. That's the difference.
I suppose the difference between me and you is that I refuse to consider myself a victim. To do so would be to put myself on the same level as tumblr. Every superiority complex is simply a well disguised inferiority complex.
And yeah, I'm a jerk, but frankly people like you piss me off. You claim to be masculine but fail to show any parts of masculinity. Since when was being a man about bitching about your family or gay people? Who cares about those?
>>7498881
There are many studies into brain function that demonstrate the differences - not all of them to males' advantage. For example, the corpus callosum is thicker in women, which enables language functions on both sides of the brain in females resulting in stronger language skills for females. Boys suffer learning disabilities, dyslexia and ADHD at higher rates than girls. On the other hand, males demonstrate more brain function in the areas that focus on mathematics and geometry. Men have 6.5 more times brain matter, whereas females have 9 times more white matter. Gray matter is used to process information, but white matter forms connections and organizes the brain. This results in different advantages for each sex. The frontal area of the cortex and the temporal area of the cortex are larger in women. Women use language better, men have better spatial skills. IQ is not the only measure.
Here's a couple of good reads: http://www.jneurosci.org/content/19/10/4065.full
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/01/050121100142.htm
>>7496888
Just because she likes it, does not mean she understood it.
>>7499248
The same can be said about anyone. How do you know for certain YOU understand the literature you like?
>>7495847
bait
I genuinely love this part of /lit/. Always manages to give me a kek.
>>7499279
Stormfront invaded /pol/, /pol/ invaded the rest. Add in some /b/ rejects and you have r9k. then they find common ground and spread.
Human psychiatric epidemology is real interestin'
>>7499298
>muh boogeymen
/lit/ has literally always been a branch of /r9k/. you're the boogeyman here.
>>7499312
Good. I'll be waiting under your bed.
>>7494906
A copy/paste list from a similar thread a week ago. You guys aren't even trying anymore.
>>7495533
Shit, what woman beat your ass? You sound like an absolute pussy with a complex lashing out instead of facing your own inadequacies.
Women and men face different gender-based hardships, and many that aren't exclusive to one gender. I hope you're just trolling because if this is sincerity, you're pathetic.
>>7498817
My theory, if I'm to generalize gender a bit, is that men are willing to face their deaths, but women are more willing to face life and the hardships that come with it. In most cases, I've seen women take so much on their shoulders, shit that a lot of men run out on because they cannot handle the pressure (of raising a family, dealing with illness, etc.)
>>7498225
I can't tell if I am just bitter sitting in my internet echo chamber of women hating or we really do have it tough. I have to admit, women have been far more callous than sensitive in my experience
>>7499327
Perhaps. I feel like it has less to do with gender and more to do with the fact that women give birth, and the father actually has an opportunity to run; if men gave birth I think we'd see absentee moms as the norm. There's a loooot of hormones and shit that happen with pregnancy, and frankly a woman's body is not the same after it. Postpartum depression is one of the most well-known aftereffects of pregnancy or miscarriage.
As for men willing to face their deaths, well, that's just how most successful societies worked out. Emperor penguins split hunting duties equally because there isn't much sexual dimorphism, but there is a quite a bit between men and women. So men get socialized to be "manly", prepared to do violence, etc, while women are socialized to be communal, multitask, act as support, etc.
>>7499328
Nobody has it tough. Everyone has it tough. It doesn't matter. Being able to post on this Cambodian Jenkem enthusiast forum is a privilege in itself. Ultimately it really doesn't matter because you can find people who started off worse than you who are doing better, and people who started off better who are doing worse. If you want an accurate metric of your life, ask yourself.
>>7495587
The concept of the disposable male is a societal one. it's true of all men and all social circumstances involving men.
>>7499328
I've had, by an large, the opposite experience.
>>7498953
Oh, believe me, there's a lot of much more humiliating ways to die than a bullet wound and it happens in hospitals all the fucking time.
>>7499351
I don't believe you.
>>7496092
Obviously the fact they wrote the books doesn't mean they understood them.
>>7498953
If some sniper shoots your from hundreds of yards away, what difference is it if it's a man or a woman? Do they use different bullets?
>>7499368
It's a good thing there aren't any female snipers.
>>7494733
>>7499342
I'm all for recognizing that there's nature and nurture involved with gender, but pregnancy is an oversimplification. I've never given birth, honestly never want to, but I've stuck through a lot of hardships I could have ditched in my life.
Also, with pain, so many men are such ninnies about it. My mom takes chronic pain like a trooper, my dad was a whiny mess when he had his appendix out.
>>7499373
There have been.
>>7499380
"no"
>>7499368
They're just being pathetic. Don't mind them.
>>7499383
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Hathcock (scroll down and read up on Apache)
>>7499379
I'd say stuff like pain tolerance is dependent on the individual.
My point about pregnancy is that your description of a female tendency to "stick with it" is a combination of female socialization to be "homemakers", ie create and maintain a stable environment for the potential rearing of children, and the hormonal and general body changes associated with pregnancy. Here's some proof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complications_of_pregnancy
death in childbirth was (and still is in some areas) pretty common before modern medicine. I don't even know how I would handle something like Postpartum psychosis or getting PTSD from the birth of your child.
>>7499391
My wife had post-partum depression after the birth of our first child. That was some rough shit.
>>7499389
lol. is that all you could come up with from your google search? one female from WW2. you sure showed me.
>>7495430
There are no known emotional or intellectual differences between the races according to the evidence we now have.
However, there IS evidence to suggest that men and women are very different when it comes to emotional and intellectual reactions to certain things because of different genetic and chromosomal aspects of our nature. Our brains are different sizes, shapes, colors and work in different ways. This isn't even about genitalia or being a terrible sexist.
>>7499368
Because females are worse at combat than males.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/10/439190586/marine-corps-study-finds-all-male-combat-units-faster-than-mixed-units
>>7499405
man, you could at least attempt to make the troll more interesting.
>>7499411
I already linked a bunch of them earlier. This guy's fishing.
>>7499405
She's the most notorious one, so she's the one who came to mind. There were many others, and others in the Vietnam war.
>>7499417
Those male units have been in existence and cohesion, as well as combat experience for much longer.
