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previous thred >>6489167
>>6489896
Someone say memes?
>>6489896
happy canada day everyone
>>6489908
yup
4th for grace a cutest
Memes ?
>>6489915
>>6489916
Awww, you're the best anon <3
>>6489913
it looks cute at shoulder length desu
>>6489911
>tfw probably gonna party until sunrise and have a hangover that could kill a horse
God bless Canada
>>6489922
>want to get my hair cut like this
>friend keeps insisting i skip short haircuts and grow it out only
;_;
nini sweet dreams mtfg
I love you!!
get plenty of sleep!!
oh thank the merciful lord above
>>6489926
Goodnight red!!
>>6489918
must. outmeme. grace.
>>6489926
nn red
>>6489868
>>6489923
*converts to islam*
*unsheathes shamshir*
*beheads u*
nothin' الشخصية... kid
>>6489929
I don't know if you can do it.
>>6489903
from someone who is always saying how they're going to kill themselves you cannot tell me to stop wanting to myself
>>6489930
islam is becoming more open to transwomen birdy
you dont have to be afraid anymore
Hi you nerds, how's it going in /mtfg/ tonight
what have i missed
>>6489933
legitimately triggered desu
>>6489923
WHITE CANADA NIGGERS GET OUT
>>6489938
Let's go deeper
>>6489930
Thank merciful Christ, it's over
>>6489939
Wat
>>6489940
i wanna go deeper into you :#
>>6489935
you do not know the can of worms you are about to open
>>6489935
I'm sorry, I don't want to "inspire" your suicidal thoughts, I am just frustrated with life and have no outlet or exit so I feel suicidal... I will try to stop saying it here, I want you to as well. I want you to talk to a therapist and perhaps get on HRT.
I don't want you to kill yourself
Maybe i can get an answer here...
My bank doesn't support echecks or whatever (tried to pay on inhouse but it got rejected like a day after) are there like any online services i can use for this? I dont want to make an account at a big bank just for this...
>>6489944
it'll never be over
you'll always be a frostback
>>6489940
>>6489950
much to the contrary my dear carol, drinking good
drinking very good
>>6489944
Canada is a white land. All niggers belong to Africa. Send them back with Ships filled with Bananas
>>6489950
>Drinking is bad ;~;
Are you even British?
>>6489955
D-drinking good?
>>6489948
Really?
>>6489954
>>6489962
>>6489962
i wanna feel you from the inside :#
>>6489961
>.> did you get any pictures of me or is skype still slow?
>>6489961
drinking good.
>>6489965
>>6489967
Come and get it ~
>>6489972
>>6489975
>>6489976
>>6489979
>>6489972
i wanna fuck you like an animal :#
>>6489982
>>6489983
lewd
>>6489985
Old schoool
>>6489972
I am just passing by. It's not like i am a homo or anything. Just lol at you crossdressing loonies.
>>6489984
Drink with other people.
Drinking alone is for people who've given up on life and want to be as numb as possible for the rest of it.
>>6489984
caroooooollllllllllll
when I snap my fingersssssssssssssss
you will driiiiiiiiiiink
>>6489990
Nobody said you were a homo?
>>6489983
Oh shnap
STORY TIME
So when I was a kid I used to have a little radio play music while I tried to sleep
It was usually the local rock station because it came in the best and I was in that edgy METAL phase
Whenever that song would come on it would creep me the fuck out
Even now I feel a little unsettled listening to it in the dark lol
I couldn't wait for it to be over and something else to come on and make me relax again
>tfw such a wimp as a kid i get spooked out by music at night
I even had a night light..
>>6489985
>>6489989
I was on /cd/ back in the day and was basically moping around saying that I could never transition because I am too manly
turns out I was right.
but I saved that img from here
>>6489998
>>6489984
I am the 22 year old guy
>>6489999
>>6489998
nin is gud tho
>>6490002
gonna enjoy this
>>6490004
I am a 6'3 ft tall guy.
>>6489990
Do i have nice butte
>>6489996
Y-you are very persuasive Kate
W-what else
>>6490003
That song would always spook me tho
>>6489993
Why wouldn't someone want to be numb?
>>6490007
h-hi
>>6490010
>>6490008
I ll answer that after you see my face. Check skype again
>>6490004
>>6490012
>>6490011
I'd like to think a teenager wouldn't, not yet.
>>6490010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aj9_8t1eQc
me desu
>>6490016
>>6490016
>tfw your hair is one of the only things you like about yourself
Basically that and voice
So I've been just gone off hormones after about two years of taking them and something EXTREMELY strange has begun to happen.
This might sound odd but I've been using my cum as moisturizer since forever and it actually works pretty well.
After a while on hormones I only really was able to produce precum but I continued my practiced and it worked alright.
After going off hormones for a few months(personal issues) my sperm has gotten REALLY white, but that's no the problem.
I've continued rubbing it into my face but I am now beginning to see tiny fetus-shaped bumps appear all across my face.
I don't know what to do. I'm scared I'll be charged with murder if I try to pop one of them.
Has anyone experienced anything similar?
>>6490015
Try uploading to imgur and share the link over skype
I cant seem to get pics D:
>>6489950
Alcohol helps Estrogen production senpai
>tfw slept all day
>tfw couldn't get any sleep last night because my sister and her boyfriend are in the next room and they were being intimate all night
k i l l m e
>>6490022
this one is really good but its a bit too long
keep it up
>>6490018
True, although that period tends to end once you discover the joy of getting fucked up to forget your problems, at least it did for me.
>>6490026
it hasn't worked yet, am I doing something wrong?
>>6490027
:(
y-you should get a boyfriend and keep your sister up all night with lewd sexy times, that'll show her!
are you feeling any better?
>>6490012
Sup. Why do you guys like tall guys? I come from a country where the average height is 5'11 so 6'1-6'2 guys are not rare. I am pretty tall at 6'3 though
>>6490019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDvIkqapC84
anon i need to sleep i cant be listening to good music rn
>>6490022
Your posts always makes this thread better anon never stop
>>6490031
we feel so giant.
at 5'8.5" I'm shorter than some girls here and I feel like a giant gorilla.
>>6490034
ok go to sleep ill cuddle you
>>6490023
Sent 2 links.
>>6490038
Sounds good, goodnight~
>>6490031
Because in general trans girls like guys taller than they are because it makes them feel smaller. Personally I want a bf the same height or maybe even a bit shorter than me.
>>6490041
w-who am I going to meme with now?
nn grace
>>6489922
Ew nah
Pain in the ass to get that dry
>>6490040
You look nice <3
>>6490037
Eh you are not really tall. How tall do you wish to be?
>>6490041
sleep well cute one
>>6490044
>SHEEN YOU GOT THE QUADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I did?!?
I mean.. ahem... yes, I did.
quads.
good.
>>6490050
like... 5'4-5'6 like all women here
Is 6 feet to tall? ;_;
>>6490042
What's the appeal to shorter guys? I agree about the same height that's cute though.
>>6490056
i'm that tall
>>6490058
Good then I'm not fucked
I asked my mum how tall I was and she said either 5"1' or 4"1', i cant remember which .___.
Im pretty sure she said 5"1' tho
>>6490058
Idk, it's fun to be able to tower over guys, no other reason really. Plus it's kinda hot being pushed around by someone smaller than you, I may be 5'10" but I don't put up much of a struggle.
>>6490062
4"1 would make you a midget dummy.
>>6490062
4'1 that's dwarf height
Just use metric, that's less retarded
>>6490062
you're not 4'1"
thats like small child tier, little person tier
you're probably 5'1"
you can't remember your own height?
>>6490064
same
although i usually go out/am around with people the same size as me
but you were probably replying to>>6490057
lololol
amazon X amazon = best couples desu
>ywn not have a body covered in deep gross stretch marks
death soon pls
Daily reminder
>>6490075
Also " is inches ' is feet, you're using it the other way around.
tfw having this then some home made pizza
>>6490077
Im bad with both syatems
Still don't get why Americans use The imperial system and Fahrenheit when Metric and Celcius is better in every way
>>6490064
What? 5'10 isn't even that tall for a woman let alone a man. Unless you are asian you must be looking for manlets to tower over them.
>>6490078
is that some sort of paper wrapped candy or something?
>>6490083
because the american government is and was full of idiots
and its not really taught in schools well
>>6490075
If I was guaranteed to not get a box body, I would love to be short, like down to 5'4. I could wear 7" plateau heels and still be shorter than man, or most, guys.
>>6490085
>le fit meemees
50% of men in canada will be under 5'10 so she'll have no problem
>>6490088
Yet it's the only country I think I can feel safe in. Gonna move there in a few years
>>6489951
and then you proceed to post all manner of related material
>talk to a therapist
waste of money
>get on hrt
already am
>I don't want you to kill yourself
do you think any of us who aren't trash want you to either?
Gf now pink Mohawk ayy
Didn't think it would look that hot on her tbqh
>>6490085
5'10" is tall for a woman, and average for men where I live. 50% of guys are shorter than me, as are about 90% of women. If I wear heels, I'm taller than a large chunk of men.
That said, I'm generally only slightly taller than people I've dated, and I prefer the idea of being the same height as my partner.
>>6490092
Probably because canada is filled with Indians Arabs , Chinese Pakis and more.
Check any majority white country and average height will be 5'10-5'11
im soo bored /mtfg/
what do i doo
>>6490096
>waste of money
you get most of the money back though, if you go to a GP and get a mental health care plan you will be able to get referred to someone who you can talk to and then you take the receipt to a medicare office for a refund.
>already am
okay good, have you had your levels checked?
>do you think any of us who aren't trash want you to either?
I know, I'm sorry
Who are your top 5 trips?
>>6490109
*cuddles* :3
>>6490111
5. me
4. me
3. me
2. me
1. just kidding anyone else ngl
>>6490112
*hugs* c:
>>6490120
>thats a joint, lmao
I know, but I like to play up the fact that I'm straightedge even though I really am
>>6490119
I swear you are so adorable <3
Like a little kitty :3
>>6490120
I'm pretty scared of the Muslim populace surfing in my country recently (Sweden) and EUs laws on hatespeech becomes vauger and vauger
That's why I'm moving away from here when I get my degree
i can't sleep...
too excited to see kaylee!
I shaved my legs extra smooth
>>6490118
I was being conservative, but yeah, there's definitely not a lot of women over 5'10". I recall when I crunched the numbers that the 99th percentile was closer to 6 feet, with 5'10" being closer to the low 90s however. I don't think there's any disputing that 5'10" is tall for a woman though.
>>6490109
Stop being an autistic sperg?
>tfw 6'2
>>6490132
not happening anon
>>6490128
What are you two gonna do?
Sounds fun anyway <3
>>6490133
sorry :(
I hate being all like
>wah wah I'm 174cm
and feel guilty all the time even though I still feel like a gorilla
>>6490135
we're going to do what couples do and kiss and junk!
>>6490140
Sounds qt
>>6490130
Why Smiley-boo? You haven't even tried it. You might like not dropping spaghetti 24/7.
>>6490130
Eyyyy derpanna. Just got a callback for a job. Interview, psychometric testing, knowledge test, about 2 hours all in all.
>>6490140
maximum cute
how do I get elanna to pound my bp
>>6490148
Congrats, sounds pretty brutal though, more exam than interview ;~;
Either way bedtime for me gn thred
>>6490156
You buy her a cute looking dragon dildo strapon. So it's girly.
>>6490162
thank you
>>6490170
K-kate weed is bad ;~;
so theres someone I think i like but im not really sure... i kinda want to ask if they'll be my gf but idk how they'd respond and idk if i love them or just like them a lot.... what should i do?
>>6490173
why
>>6490170
I am honestly too scared of buying drugs and I have no friends who know who to buy drugs from and I cant afford it and also I dont know how to even do them ._.
also I'd be afraid if I were to buy it'd turn out that the dealer person was a copper
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSjBzZsGLYY
>>6490180
a s k
t h e m
just think of being qt with them
>see a tall woman a few dozen meters in front of me on the street
>she stands up in the crowd but nobody pays much attention to her otherwise
>"hey maybe being tall isn't as terrible as I make it out and I'll pass just one day"
>eventually we pass each other as we are walking in opposite direction
>she's like a head shorter than me and is also wearing heels
kill me someone
>>6490180
ask if they want to date or something
dont worry about being in love until you actually understand what that means
>>6490188
>going outside
there, i located your problem
>>6490188
There, there anon. Everything will be allright.
>>6490201
delet this
>>6490180
eh just ask
i think it's better to just date before you like "commit" to someone though
>>6490203
SLUGU!!
>>6490203
I am just saying that there are far worse things than being tall.
>>6490210
like what
manface you can get ffs
poor you can whore yourself out
there is literally no sensible solution to being overly tall
>>6490214
You can always cut your legs off ;^)
>>6490207
helo waddup
>>6490210
>>6490219
>helo waddup
I am getting an bbq sausage from the election tomorrow
>>6490222
tasty
get me one
>>6490214
Oh come on. It's not exactly the end of the world. So your dating options are a bit more limited. You can still find someone.
>>6490219
OK, OK, I get the picture. Here's Misty Snow, the democratic candidate for Utah's senator.
>>6490222
why is the election giving sausages
She hasnt responded ;~~;
>>6490224
beatiful
>>6490226
;~;
im sure she will soon
>>6490225
It's the Straya way... cunt.
Ayyyy
>>6490223
okay!
>>6490225
its just a strayan tradition to get a bbq'd sausage on bred with onion and tomato sauce on election day
also from the front of bunnings... or from the front of automotive parts stores
basically anywhere theres a sausage sizzle you have to get one.
>>6490228
the feel when look like chris chan
>>6490228
It truly is. How far has the US gone.
>>6490233
looks tasty
>>6490234
this guy looks like he skipped leg day
>>6490233
don't say that
>>6490232
I like your ayy lmao hair
Being an annon in the sea of trips is pretty intimidating. It feels like my highschool where i was a nobody
>>6490238
Models usually do.
>>6490246
better to be a nobody here so no one can bully and attack you
Is it normal to not pass after 13 months of HRT? Is it time?
>>6490248
it feels great to bully and annoy others while they know who does it :^)
>>6490252
you don't even look that bad nigger, the pics I've seen of your face are pretty cute actually.
>>6490237
oh yes.
>>6490241
I do though
https://unsee
.cc/monepasi/
>>6490246
just put a name on or something
its just so we can talk to each other and instantly know who we're talking to
>>6490252
>Is it normal to not pass after 13 months of HRT?
it's pretty normal to literally never pass so yes
>>6490252
You done very little besides hrt though haven't you? You've only started wearing make up a couple of weeks ago and I am not aware if you've worked on your mannerisms/voice.
Hrt is not magic.
>>6490253
im gonna kill you
>>6490252
Step up your game lil' nigga.
>>6490257
nah you look more female than chris chan and also actually have some self awareness which means you can do better long term by working on your appearance
>>6490252
You look pretty Puru and are a very kind, lovely girl.
Please don't do that ;_;
>>6490252
confidence in your appearance is more important than passing
>>6490266
That's hon talk.
>>6490259
Voice/mannerisms don't change my face. Makeup is whatever, there's only so much it can do and it's not doing enough. I've been working on voice for months and it's nowhere near the range/resonance so I've kinda given up hope of that one ever getting better without a surgery.
>>6490266
No it really is not. That "you can be happy without passing" garbage may work for someone but personally I'm not nearly delusional enough for it.
>>6490271
How do you look Puru?
>>6490264
I need a job like two years ago *sigh*
I also need to get my ass into gear and lose this weight.
its fucking ridiculous how more settled I am with 1mg extra estrogen btw.
>>6490271
the only reason I'm gendered female is because of my voice being okayish
>>6490270
>>6490271
dunno man but if u accept what you look like, and thus create some form of content feeling for it, would be better than constantly worrying about how you think you look like towards others.
aside from the fact that being confident in your femininity will procure a more convincing female personality, and that will increase your "passing" (not looking at appearance) in general.
if passing is so important, do all the surgeries you want, and if you're not happy with it and still can't pass in /your own mind/, might as well kill yourself. cus why bother right?
pls
Reminder you're all cute and I love all of you.
>>6490273
like shit, ignore this anon >>6490277
>>6490279
>dunno man but if u accept what you look like
That's like encouraging suicide no? I'm not going to keep going if I don't end up passing, accepting how I look is accepting defeat.
>and that will increase your "passing" (not looking at appearance)
Passing because people are being polite is not the same as actually passing.
>if passing is so important, do all the surgeries you want
Surgeries are only for the wealthy and I'm about as far from wealthy as it gets.
>>6490288
thank u anon c:
Morning nerds
>>6490246
>tfw being like other girls
>>6490291
Don't make me come to spurdo land and beat you up
>>6490309
do it faggot, better be quick about it or there wont be anyone here to beat up
>>6490291
you look like a girl
like
what surgeries would you even need?
FFS is intended for hons with cliff face brows and the like
your brow looks fine, you have a pretty nose, your eye shape is cute
your jaw is not wide your chin is fine
the only things I can see that could justify your feelings is your philtrum and forehead are a little long but those are nothing issues
bangs until you can afford to get your hairline advanced and overdraw your upper lip line by a mm with makeup until you can afford a lip lift
the biggest change to your face would be getting your brows shaped
its like $10
>>6490291
How is accepting what you look like /encouraging suicide/? No offense, but if you're a tranny you will never be your desired gender, you can only appear as such. accepting is more of a confidence thing rather than "giving up".
aka "I'll never pass, better kill myself". eyup that works out really well. i doubt very much if people close to you who accept you for who you are even care about it. you're just going on about what you think is not passing, even though others say you look, quote, "cute and passing". its yourself thats the problem in this
You're looking to reduce the dysphoria by going with the concept of successfully passing. I'm p sure you've done a lot of things to try and pass. eventually, you reach the summit of that. then what? give up? just be like "oh im never going to pass ;~;". good going
why start hormones in the first place if you knew you werent going to pass and that it was /going to be a problem/? Optimism? coming to terms with how you look requires more effort than passing.
probably going to get a lot of hate for this but w/e
;~;
>>6490301
Anytime. c:
>>6490313
Aww cmon I'm sorry I called you a bitch but I seriously do think you are cute. I know you wanna ignore everyone who says good things about you but I don't think you look bad at all.
>>6490316
Thanks I needed that I guess. I don't agree with a lot of what you said and like I'm fully aware that looking like the desired gender is the best a tranny can hope for but thanks.
>>6490315
My nose is pretty bad desu from any angle that shows its length. Nose, some saggy chin stuff and hairline would be what I'd want surgery for.
>>6490324
Thanks.
>>6490317
hi
>>6490333
I don't think there's anything that can be done with nose length but a lip lift will make your face look shorter overall
you look like any other woman I see every day only without any makeup
>>6490333
No hugbox, you don't pass, but you look pretty feminine and you have no make up on in that pic
Also I don't think your nose is bad, your chin I can agree could benefit from surgery.
>>6490291
Wat?
You don't look bad at all. >>6490333
There's certainly potential to grow. Stop being a crazy, insecure tranny. Just be a crazy tranny.
>>6490337
>I don't think there's anything that can be done with nose length
I mean like the length of which it extends outwards not the vertical space. from my face? Pointiness? Surely they can make it a bit less pointy? :s
>lip lift
Looking at what it does I think I'm fine already, my mouth usually looks like the after photos unless I deliberately press my lips together like in that pic
>>6490348
Chin is expensive tho.
>>6490349
>There's certainly potential to grow.
How2 grow when you cant afford surgery?
>>6490352
>a bit less pointy
but pointy is feminine
>>6490358
btw
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2671205/Plastic-surgeons-say-Scarlett-Johansson-ideal-nose.html
>>6490352
>How2 grow when you cant afford surgery?
Just get a jerb. And joking aside there's a shit tonne of things you can do that do not include going under the knife. Like working on your voice primarily.
>tfw your SO pats and slaps your puffy vulva
>>6490361
>tfw no vulva
>>6490360
Hons can't be saved
>>6490367
post side angle
>>6490369
Rather not desu.
>>6490361
>tfw no puffy vulva to pat
>>6490367
Surgery can't fix everything and in some cases can make it worse. Just like popping fem&m's and doing absolutely nothing else will not magically turn you into a girl.
You are going to have to put in the effort. Simple as that. And getting a decent education and afterwards a jerb that doesn't want to make you crawl into a hole is a step in the right direction.
Fuck you hons
>>6490383
wew thats pretty rude
>>6490383
Maybe it's time to stop posting Whingie.
>>6490394
Too lewd, please come back later.
>>6490381
Put in effort they say
It'll work out they say
Did you magically forget about luck?
>>6490391
Why do people call her that?
I really want to go into porn. I wasn't abused as a child, I don't have daddy issues, I have a loving boyfriend and friends- But I very badly want to be in porn. I think its an attention thing, or a glamor thing- having verification that Im beautiful and desireable, getting to be beautiful and desireable. I just can't bring myself to do it though, because I don't want my parents to be any more ashamed of me than they already are, and Im worried about late life intimacy issues. I keep rationalizing it by saying it's jut a fantasy but like, honestly, I really really want to do it. What should I do?
>>6490400
Why is she called Whingie? Or Mangie? Or Hongie? Or my favorite - a Stephen King lookalike?
The reason why Angie is called all these unflattering and frankly mean names is because she is a horrifically bitter person out to make everybody else as miserable as she is. After being banned from every social network in existence (as well as every possible chat and/or group) shitting up this place on semi-regular basis is the only thing she has left.
am i unbanned yet?
>>6490412
I'm not Chara, I'm anon
>>6490407
IMO I think she is just trolling much like how Faye, dollface and others troll.
>>6490405
Would your boyfriend really be ok with that? You can try doing cam stuff though instead of hardcore porn. Maybe you'll get the verification you need from that.
>>6490407
I don't get the Stephen king reference, maybe before she had FFS I can see how those two look similar, but I don't think they look alike now, just my two cents
>>6490407
I only get banned cause I either annoy people or call people out for their extremely stupid bullshit
>>6490422
you're quick to defend yourself yet you claim you don't pass and look like a man
>>6490427
Yeah, this attitude right here is why.
You're so narcissistic you can't even see you've done wrong. You also equate extreme pessimism with realism which pisses people off.
>>6490427
are you shitposting with Rosen now?
>>6490430
I claim that because I don't think I do except mostly everyone ma'ams me irl but I think they just do that to be friendly.
>>6490432
I like to think everyone is a bit narcissistic.
I have pessimism because the world is a pretty shitty place and I can't help people are wrong at times.
>>6490433
Maybe, idk.
>>6490442
>everyone ma'ams me irl but I think they just do that to be friendly.
this is why you have BDD
>>6490412
I don't understand what you mean.
>>6490421
No, he wouldn't be ok with either of them. He would leave me upon hearing about it. I guess the appeal to hardcore over camming is all I have to do for a camera shoot is show up and do what Im told, right? I feel camming Id have to so much myself, and I could never make myself as pretty as a camera crew and professionals could.
>>6490444
I don't think people are out to get me except for a few people at my job.
>>6490447
But is it really? I like to think most cis folk are too stupid enough to differentiate between masculine and feminine features.
As my mentor Tommy once said to me, one should always question the nature of reality.
>>6490450
I don't think you should give up a loving relationship to pursue a fetish.
Also porn is not really as glamorous are it seems on camera, you can read about it from other pornstars.
Maybe try recording you and your bf and then watch it together? I don't know if that would sate you at all.
>look at everything beautiful about myself
>everything that I feel good about
>everything that receives praise from parents, friends, and others
All the nice things are byproducts of intense physical and emotional suffering.
>even nice compliments remind you of sacrifices
>feel like a fraud
>none of this is me, it's all positive traits carved into a lesser being
>seeing a girl in the mirror through the eyes of the same scared stupid little boy you really are underneath it all
Is self esteem this hard? Is this even a trans feel? Why can't I just stop and enjoy life?
>>6490460
>All the nice things are byproducts of intense physical and emotional suffering.
Those things are still part of you, what you work hard for is yours. It's not fraud to be praised for something you put effort in.
Parts you don't have to work for as just luck, if anything they're less commendable.
>Is self esteem this hard?
Pretty much, for most people. Especially trannies.
>>6490453
>>6490459
Is that all it is? Just a fetish? I thought it could be an overall positive experience, at the minimum it could get me the money I need for surgery. I... I was thinking I probably wouldnt do it until I graduated from college. So that could be a few years.
My main fear from the porn industry is STI's, that and brainwashing- but thats an irrational fear.
I dont know if it would, like I said for some reason I just really want to be made up by professionals, and then filmed by professionals getting fucked by professionals. I mean, if I could do actual acting I would- but Im not that talented, but I am that pretty.
>>6490474
>Is that all it is? Just a fetish?
Maybe, I can't really know how you feel. But I'd give it more thought.
If as you said you have a long way to go then just wait and see how feel then.
