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Free Software Edition

▶ Informed consent providers: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/932389/Trans/Stepping%20Forward%20-%20Informed%20Consent%20Clinics.pdf
▶ Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV (embed)
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▶ Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶ Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶ Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
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▶ Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶ IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat#mtfg
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>>6469021
Smh...
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>>6468967
You're right.
I must embrace the agp so I can become an expert programmer and reach satori!
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bein a jewish tranny aint so bad
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>>6469030
yeah at least he has the approval of a 4chan anon.
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>>6469024
Linus did nothing wrong
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>>6469037
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hii /mtfg/
how are you?
post muscled and thicc qts
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>>6469058
KYS my man
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>>6469051
tfw no muscled and thicc qt gf
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i felt like a hoe in this outfit but i kinda liked it ?
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i give up on life

like im not killing myself but i just don't care at all anymore
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>freeze sperm
>go on hormones
>get email from sperm bank that there's been a problem and that my specimen as been destroyed
ive been bawling my eyes out all day

its been 6 months, there's bound to have been some damage
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>>6469051
I'd like to be a muscle girl but I have a man skeleton so I would just look like a man again
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>>6469066
more pics pls

what age did you start hormones
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>>6469066
post more
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>>6469068
>wanting to be a father
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>>6469066
You can be my hoe in that outfit. By which I mean my exclusive hoe, forever. Not in a basement kidnapping kind of way though. More like I want you to call me Daddy and wake me up with breakfast in bed after a night of fucking you into a stupor.
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>>6469067
Do you want to talk about it?
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Well I'm going to count all the "yes and weed too" answers as "no"s

>>6469024
yass gimp
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>>6469068
Sue 'em, use the payout to pay for adoption.
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>>6469068
>freeze sperm
>get a call saying they literally only found 2 sperm in there
>m-million?
>no
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>>6469079
idk
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>>6469068
get over it
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/02/23/babies-with-two-biological-same-sex-parents-could-become-a-reality-in-just-two-years/
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>>6469088
Alright, well, to figure that out maybe try and start and if you decide you don't want to or do, maybe?
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>>6469094
*see if
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>>6469091
Why would I take advice from someone who looks and sounds like a man?
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>>6469068
It's apparently pretty common to regain fertility if you stop hrt for a few months, so if it's really that important to you then you could probably get another sperm sample to use.
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lf best friend to give me hugs and buy me clothes and boba tea
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>>6469086
LMAO
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Who here tough girl?
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>tfw you just read last thread
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>>6469111
not you
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>>6469117
Birdy being a jerk or just misunderstood the question, not sure.
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>>6469051
that girl has legit forearms

>>6469091
>hi everyone, i just came back from a photo shoot that lasted 5/6 hrs
>it was totally amazing
>anyway, when I go out to bars,
it doesn't take long for someone start buying me drinks or talking to me or something like that.
tee fucking hee

>>6469106
>tfw opening my mouth gets me clocked 3 out of 5 times
I'd take any voice that doesn't get me clocked
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>>6469117
are you a tough girl birdy?
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>>6469124
>tfw you'll never be a sexy trains model
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>>6469117
I'm about to do a 2 mile test to see if I'm physically able to join the army as a girl, I'm scared out of my mind...... but I'm always scared
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>>6469126
>every teenage boy wanted to be a girl at some point
Hmm
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>>6469126
>>6469132
Birdy is an early transitioning MtFtM, isn't it obvious? Stop misgendering him-her-him.
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c o m m u n i s m
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I just had a really really bad nightmare, I'm shaking, I usually have nightmares but never this bad, someone please hold me ;~;
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>>6469131
>planet fitness
Faye confirmed thirty-something woman
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>>6469134
Hey don't make fun, some of us actually are amab ftm.
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>>6469137
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>>6469121
must bully
>>6469126
yes
>>6469131
why would you want to tho
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>>6469114
Shlomo sounds like a nice guy.
I hope he gives Wendie some cute new girl clothes for christmas.
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>>6469141
birdy ur a chick
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>>6469137
Sorry to hear person I don't know much. What was it about?
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So /mtfg/ How long after starting HRT did it take you to come out and live full time?
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>>6469148
5 months
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>>6469147
hi kari
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>>6469148
8 months til I started full time/told my dad and 3 months til I told my mom.
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communism
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>>6469148
negative 2 years
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>>6469141
>yes
good girl
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>>6469146
>>6469154
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>>6469150
Heya ^^
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>>6469158
>arm trans women
B-BUT BAN EBIL GUNS
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>>6469147
it was really weird, it was literally a nightmare about having nightmares which kept getting progressively worse. In the end it felt like I forced my eyes open only to see my own body and someone in front of me impaled by spikes, it might of been sleep paralysis cause I actually saw my body with spikes sticking out of it

Can decapeptyl make nightmares worse? I really hope not
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>>6469149
I am 3 months in and considering when I hit month 4 I will start going part time at work/fulltime.

>>6469151
So you told your mother at the 3 month mark, and your dad/came out full time at the 8 month mark? How did it go? Were they accepting of you?

>>6469153
So you crossdressed for 2 years before you started HRT?
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>>6469162
fuck liberals
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>>6469165
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>>6469158
should I get this put on a shirt
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>buy overwatch
>its great
>but nobody to play with
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>>6469157
http://www.strawpoll.me/10607649
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>>6469164
gatekept until I turned 18
also they wouldn't even give me blockers til I showed up in girlmode
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>>6469070
Do you think she is roiding or is it possible for female to get that big natty?
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>>6469163
Most any drug can have interactions that could mess with dreams tbdesu. It might also just have been a one off sleep paralysis. Either way that sounds really terrifying and sorry that happened =\

>>6469164
Yeah told her 3 months in, and I actually told my dad after I realized I'd almost been full time like a month. My mom I had to basically come out to again at 5 months like "Hey no really this is a thing" and it's been hard on my dad, who hasn't contacted me a lot since. In the end though they are both supportive.

>>6469172
Do you have PC? I'm moving atm but Nycteri#1417 is my battletag I play a lot!
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RMS is my dude!


>>6469148
I guess 3 months before starting HRT I started calling myself a girl. I've been wearing feminine clothes since I was 16. Complicated question
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>>6469177
Unless you're moving to Aus we can't really play
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>>6469178
>didn't ask them
>they still tell you they wanna be a girl

Okay anon I think your friends were trans for sure.
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>tfw you sleep for 12 hours after a weekend of no sleep and then drift off again out of nowhere
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>>6469169
what
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>>6469181
Nope! Portland. Sorry :<
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>>6469186
I wonder what fun stuff there is to do in Portland. I almost went to college there, at Reed
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>>6469170
yes
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>>6469106
if she looks and sounds like a man then what does that make you?
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>>6469149
Where do u work out?
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>>6469138
>>6469141
Don't worry I only made it a mile at a 9 minute/mile pace, I failed and really I was shot at .3 miles and just dragged myself on in pain.

I'm on the bike now, but I'm going to need a lot of training and hard work every day to ever get to two miles in 20 minutes ;_;
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honestly though

need best friend/sugar daddy to buy me things and compliment me

tia
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>>6469175
I am very sorry =[

I assume you were like me, you knew as a child that something was different about you? It actually made my childhood very hard, wanting to be feminine and being forced to enjoy masculine things. I never played with action figures because I didn't want to end up looking like that (lol, like id ever be a muscle bound hunk).

I wish I would have transitioned at your age. I fear I waited to long doing this at 24 but I was scared of this because of how I was raised. I was taught to hate people like us, that it was a sin to want this. I almost came out and my grandmother flipped and I lied and said I wasn't really like that.

>>6469177
Do you like being full time? Was it hard at first? Did it cause any problems?

I want to come out so bad. I want to feel free, I want the me inside to be outside and I feel like I wont be accepted for that person and it kills me. I just need some encouragement and hope that everything will be ok.
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>>6469116
amy victoria says you're a hate anon and responsible for a big portion of the trolling?
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>>6469201
I met a creepy sugar daddy kinda guy a few months ago, wanted to take me on a date and buy me things
i should see if he's still up for it :^)
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>>6469203
Amy victoria is a two faced chromosome hoarding bitch.
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>>6469201
Money doesn't buy you happiness. I'm from a wealthy family and I transitioned without spending a dollar out of my pocket. At the end of the day, materialism is a novelty which wears off quick. You don't need to sell your soul for it either.
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>>6469201
i'm poor but i can offer you my dick for whenever you want to use it?
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>>6469200
I ran like a twelve minute mile today >.<
>>6469195
At the gym
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>>6469180
I never wore female clothes after I got beat by my father when he caught me. I denied that this was who I was for a long time and used drugs and alcohol to suppress how I felt.

I still have a lot of self loathing I have to work through over this. Did you ever deal with that?
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Who here weak girl who won't be broken
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ok yume
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>>6469210

L.O. L.
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>>6469210
Money doesn't buy happiness, it buys freedom
If I didn't have to put money in my own pockets and spend on things I'd have the freedom to pursue other goals that might actually bring me to happiness instead of worrying about how I'm going to get happiness AND an income
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>>6469200
>9 minute/mile
Who's the slow one now?!?!?
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>>6469212
Lol I guess I had that answer coming.
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>>6469217
Yah, you don't get what it's like having to pick between food and something you need to keep paying for things when you're that wealthy, consumerism isn't happiness but wealth can bring amazing happiness
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>>6469217
Sure, money enables things and I'm not blind to that fact. After all it enabled my transition. But that's not what we are talking about here. An attractive girl looking for a sugar daddy and literally selling themselves for things that don't even matter at the end; sounds like the golden plan. Not.
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>>6469148
Came out to my parents after 6 months and still not fulltime 12 months in
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>>6469207
sounds like you might end up in a basement somewhere
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>>6469213
I've used drugs to cover up how I felt too
I'm so sorry about the beating. If there's any advice I can give is to not let that beating ever change how you feel.
I have so much self loathing, and so many mixed emotions, it's really hard to process it all
>>6469217
Hi grace!!
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>>6469212
Military standard is 20 min 2 mile for women, so I have to pass that to get in
>>6469222
I am... I'm sorry I bullied you red ;_;
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>>6469231
Isn't she already in a basement though?
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>>6469226
I consider myself wealthy, or rather supported by a wealthy family, but the lack of financial concerns doesn't add happiness. If anything it takes away the potential troubles.
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I don't think money buys happiness but it buys me sex toys and isn't that basically the same thing?
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>>6469233
it's okay, you can try harder soon :3
Are you moving away from SF to be with the army?
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>>6469148
On the flip side of this, how long on hrt can you reasonably expect to hide your transness from your parents for, assuming you're not a hyper-masculine hon to start with?

Do you think it'd be possible to keep it a secret from them when I come home for winter break from uni?
By december I'll be 8 months in.
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>>6469244
>not fisting yourself to a wet and goopy orgasm
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>>6469207
yeah and if not send him my way thanks

>>6469210
of course money doesnt necessarily buy happiness
but it does buy me new clothes
and new clothes make me happy
so

>>6469211
is it a nice dick? is it a local dick? these are the important questions
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>>6469188
Don't worry I'm sure we'll find lots to do when you visit! ^^

>>6469202
Yeah I definitely like it, but it was also rough at first. It felt like, really shitty for the first while feeling like I was failing at it, but learning from those early months is the only way you end up passing, because it's a lot more than it seems at the beginning. Feel free to add me if you want someone to talk to more about this or anything, my contact info is on Portland on the Zeemaps.

>>6469234
Good morning how's Puru?
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>>6469231
guess where i am now
>>6469232
hey red
>>6469148
only a couple months in i was out to pretty much everyone
goal is full time by 1 year
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>>6469251
I love shopping as much as the next person, but I'd be just as happy without things I own and I definitely wouldn't go as far as selling my body for it. But it's your life, so choose wisely.
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>>6469182
fixed
http://www.strawpoll.me/10607772
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>tfw discussing Disney movies with my guy friends

i think they might be gay listening to their favorite movies lol
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Cocks are great!
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>>6469249
I think it should be fine so long as you don't go swimming or anything, I'm 16 months hrt but I still boymode a lot with skinny jeans and a hoody, apparently it isn't very effective but parents are always kind of blind to this stuff
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>>6469262
Or repressing.
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So, I've been injecting for two years without problems, but I think I may have finally done something wrong.

I pulled back on the plunger to make sure I was getting air isntead of blood, and when I saw air, I injected as per normal. But, for whatever reason, it was almost impossible to push the plunger down. Eventually I had to stop with just a slight bit of estrodiol left in the syringe, but when I pulled it out, I bleed everywhere. Like, seriously bleed with it running down my leg. After holding the guaze there for a while it stopped, but it really freaked me out.

Has anyone experienced anything like this? I'm still worried.
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>>6469230
Why have you not yet come out full time?

I don't have parents anymore so I guess that makes this partially easier. At least I don't have to worry about their judgement anymore...

>>6469232
That actually kind of makes me feel better. It was hard having these feelings for so long and denying they were a central part of my self identity. I don't know how people spend their entire lives in the closet, I think I would rather be dead because that is worse than death.

That beating chaned who I was for a very long time. I probably would have had the courage to come out had it not happened and made me feel like what I felt was wrong.
I do not want you to take this in a negative way, but it is nice to know I am not alone.
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>>6469248
Not for a long long time red, it's going to be a long path to getting back, lots and lots of work, but I'll get there
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>>6469251
it is a nice dick and it is not local right now but it will be in your area soon. we've already had this conversation though you won't even do anything about it ;^)

>ufufu s c a r e d of the dick
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>>6469091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD8dUTalnjU

i love you
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If y'all want to know about having a sugar daddy, just ask me, I had one for a few months

>>6469257
what's shaking?
>>6469263
They really are!
>>6469256
cool :3
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>>6469261
I never asked them but they frequently joked / pointed out that I basically acted like a socially awkward little girl... But never explicitly said "I think you're trans".
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>>6469209
trip on, potc
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>>6469270
Yeah...I often cried myself to sleep when I felt that I could never fit in with women, or if I was made fun of wanting to be feminine.
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>>6469258
unfortunately someone who has never wanted for money cant understand
sorry

>>6469263
w-w-w-what!!!!

>>6469272
um
yeah i am scared u_____u and too awkward and ugly sorry
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>>6469275
feeling p bad so ill catch up with you later red, i just wanna lay down and be isolated for a bit
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>>6469279
More like trip on Plant.
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>>6469233
it's scary how we live so close to each other

i wonder if we've ever crossed paths without knowing it
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>>6469282
Whaaa!!!!
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>>6469282
give me ur skype i'll be nice to you i promise
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>>6469283
Hope you feel better <3
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>>6469228
Lol you don't know what it's like to face a decision of continuing HRT or eating for a week, do you?

You'd know there's no decision to make when you've felt hunger pangs and have nothing to eat.

You don't know what it's like staying awake for the whole night worrying that the electricity will get shut off if you don't make the pay by the end of the week and having a shit day because you haven't slept and you're hungry right?

A Sugar daddy isn't what your privileged 16 yo fantasy worldview thinks it is.

L O L
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>>6469249
My parents are dead so I don't have to hide anything.

I am not sure, I am only 3 months in. I would think the changes would be obvious by then. I am sure if you hid your face it would help.

>>6469256
I will add you. It would be nice to talk about it. I only see yumi, kari and gem. Which one are you?

>>6469257
My friends know, the last bits of family that I have do not yet. Are you full time?
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>>6469282
I still think you should get some popsicles and put them in your work lunch room then go to town on them when the boys you like are in there
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>>6469287
I mean you know what I look like!

And it shouldn't be scary, I'm just you're average boy who likes your average things.

If you're ever bored and just want to eat sushi, you can ask on my skype,

It's Fayezorbeam
.....
Can't stop won't stop
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>>6469294
im a homeless 18 year old
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>>6469281
So did I... I hated the fact that women made fun of me because I was feminine. They liked saying I was a pussy and I should be like the other boys at school. It was hard, I hated that fucking place.
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>>6469282
I do understand because I've been cut off by my parents before. There was a period in my life when I only owned a mattress and an alarm clock to my name in my friend's living room. It was the best time of my life. So you shouldn't assume so much about things you don't know here.
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>>6469296
I'm Kari~ Bored Kari.
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>>6469256
>Good morning how's Puru?
Puru is sleepy and dysphoric, thanks for asking. Wbu?

>>6469270
>Why have you not yet come out full time?
I don't pass and I don't know how to pass with what I currently got available to me so I don't think I'm fulltime. Parents aren't really a problem but they were basically the only people I have irl to come out to. Coming out to people I know online doesn't really count imo.

>>6469261
I asked when I was like 6yo and everyone thought I was weird and I thought they were right and that there was something wrong with me so I waited for it to go away. It never did but thinking that it would made me a neverpass uggo that wasted their youth repressing in solitude so hooray.
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>>6469296
my step siblings dont know yet
and im not full time yet
i dont pass yet
hopefully in a few months ill be a girl tho
time to lay down
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>>6469305
cutie~ <3

cuddlesyou26
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>>6469263
>tfw no cock poking my butte
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>>6469294
Umm, I actually do. Read what I wrote here. >>6469302
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>>6469302
I've been there, And actually homeless, those are two different things
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>>6469203
I heard

I knew it was only a matter of time before she switched from shittalking about my girlfriend to me
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>>6469294
haha you're a poor prostitute
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>>6469300
yeah, it was mostly the men that made fun of me.
I got called faggot and my ex bf showed pictures of me crossdressing to his friends
>>6469305
Hiii
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>>6469291
blushu

>>6469292
ummmmmmmm ;~; im scare
my skype is junkism but dont hold it against me if i wuss out ok?

>>6469297
i could do that...
i DO really like popsicles...

>>6469302
but you a) had your parents money to start with and b) had it to go back to

ive been broke my whole life, trust me when i say that money would make me happier
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>>6469232
>If there's any advice I can give is to not let that beating ever change how you feel.

Not trans, just passing through, but my dad used to hit me periodically throughout my childhood, had to explain away bruises a couple of times at school and rationalise why I didn't call CPS and all that, but boy am I glad I remained myself in spite of it, even though that was just a weird antisocial nerd and I could have jettisoned that a lot more easily than y'all could repress being trans. Just don't overcorrect and wind up hating the world too much for pushing you to be someone you're not; that was my big mistake and overcoming that resentment and learning to love the world and my fellowman despite them being stupid small-minded normies was the second great arc of my life journey.
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>>6469319
how did your exbf say he got those photos, everyone must have figured out he was a faggot too
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>>6469320
>i could do that...
>i DO really like popsicles...
ALSO EAT CORNDOGS AND BANANAS
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You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
You both like undertale.
Stranger: Rp
You: hOI! :33
You: I want to fuck Undyne be Undyne
You: Hi I'm Asriel! Time for rape!
You: JK I'm Temmie! TIME FOR RAPE :3333
Stranger has disconnected.
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>>6469311
Who's to say I wasn't homeless before I lived in my friend's living room? I've stayed in shelters, volunteered in the kitchen to get extra internet time and got into a fist fight with a homeless guy while naked over shower time. You don't need to tell me those are two different things.
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>>6469307
Who are you? Do you call everyone cutie without even knowing how they look?

>>6469319
Hi Red hope you are feeling better than I am.
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>>6469266
ok, good.

>I still boymode a lot with skinny jeans and a hoody, apparently it isn't very effective
Yeah, I'm mostly just worried about my family finding out; I don't care that much if people at my uni know.

>but parents are always kind of blind to this stuff
true.
I think part of that might be from the effect where you don't notice minor changes to a person if you see them all the time, so maybe I should try to make weekend visits with them on a somewhat regular basis, so they won't be seeing 4 months worth of changes all at once.

>>6469296
>My parents are dead so I don't have to hide anything.
Aw, sorry to hear that.
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>>6469305
I'm doing well, nervous for leaving home in 12 hours. Sorry to hear you're dysphoric today though :<
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>>6469332
i know what you look like cutie...
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>>6469324
i DONT like corndogs or bananas.
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>>6469320
Yeah but the problem here is you need to sell your body and be a prostitute in order to get that money with your plan. If that would make you truly happy regardless, then go for it.
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>>6469323
he went to another school....
plus he was dating me on the DL.
At least he didn't share the lewd photos.
>>6469322
hell yeah, self-realization and the formation of your own identity is the best in life
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>>6469328
Then lead with that example, and then tell us why you're happier getting into fights where you lived compared to not having to worry about anything.
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>>6469298
have you ever been to the meadowlark dairy
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If another tranny is uncomfortable with you saying things like "tranny" and "shemale" around them, should you refrain?
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>>6469340
who said anything about being a prostitute
what
all i said was that i want someone to buy me things
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>>6469339
what about sushi?
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>>6469341
do you think that your exbf doing that led to you like being humiliated so much
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>>6469303
Oh lol, Now i feel dumb.

>>6469306
Hopefully in a few months we both will be girls. Heres to hope.

>>6469305
Do you wear makeup? Do you work? Do you have IRL friends that are close?

>>6469319
Oh I got plenty of that, but it wasn't because I was fem, it was because I was fat. The girls noticed me being fem too however.

Oh god, that sounds mortifying red...I am so sorry.

>>6469334
Some days are harder than others. I miss them but life must go on. I like to think if they were still around they would have accepted the real me eventually.

My brother knows and keeps trying to convert me to Christianity so I will not "pretend to be a girl" anymore.
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>>6469344
Yes, I don't say faggot around normal fag faggots, but I'll happily call you one, it's about decorum
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>>6469344
yes
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>>6469344
Of course, wouldn't you want others to do the same for you?
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>>6469344
Yeah? If you want to be friends with that tranny why would you antagonize them for such a silly reason?
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Why don't girls jeans have front pockets?
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>>6469342
But the period in which I said I was the happiest is not while I was staying in shelters. You're just wanting me to fit into your narrative here.
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>>6469344
no you should double down and defend your turf
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>>6469340
Being a prostitute isn't so much selling your body as it is selling the emotional labor and affection and image you exude, as well as making a man feel loved
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>>6469354
So you get a bag, a boyfriends with pockets, or a femme gf with a purse.
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>>6469341
>hell yeah, self-realization and the formation of your own identity is the best in life

Well, second best.
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>>6469317
I'm not! I'm an entrepreneur! :3

>>6469309
Sorry i thought you were this idiot.
>>6469210


>>6469291
Hey nerd
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>>6469354
because girls have purses
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>>6469357
and selling your body
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>>6469344
Yes, but do you actually say "shemale" unironically? It's such a gross word.
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>>6469344
Unless you have reason to want to get under their skin and make them uncomfortable around you.
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>>6469354
So you touch your booty more
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>>6469350
>>6469351
>>6469352
>>6469353
Idk I mean I feel like it's our word, it's mine to use, and it's wrong of someone else to impose their feelings of shame and stigma that are associated with it as a slur. Like, idk, why shouldn't they respect my feelings about its use and reclamation? Why should I be the one to censor myself? I don't want that word to be able to be used as a weapon against me and that's why I say those things about myself
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>>6469344
I'm a slutty sassy shemale sissy! :3
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HACKERS, YOU'LL BE FREE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sJUDx7iEJw
>>6469354
reeee this is s fucking stupid and i have to carry a backpack with me 24/7 now
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>>6469258
It's really renting your services in bed. The body stayed with me.
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>>6469345
Define sugar daddy for me and what they could possibly want back in return.

>>6469357
>>6469364
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>>6469355
I'm wanting you to fit the narrative, money isn't happiness, you say you got into bum fights and had to serve soup to use the Internet (even getting in a shelter is lucky btw) tell me why that's happier then having money, I know why living with your best friend with no worries is happier, because your friend had to worry about the stress of being in the position to help you, and you reaped the benefit
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>>6469354
Because girls jeans are shit.
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>>6469354
I just carry a bag
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>>6469347
maybe....
I have a list of experiences that kinda fucked up my sexuality and what I like....
He liked me as a girl, but one argument and he was showing everybody the pictures
>>6469349
It sucked, but I remain who I am.
>>6469344
I never say that stuff around normies, but when I sense someone is self-loathing/has depression or anxiety/has a dark sense of humor I say it
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>>6469361
I AM that idiot. Gosh, you're so stupid!
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i can't deal with the fact that I'll become sterile.

i know i can freeze sperm, but it's too scary of a thought for me to go through it.

i think im gonna take a break from here for a while and think about how i can become a better man
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>>6469371
but it's not really reclaimed, there aren't really any consequences for using it in public and the most successful trans porn company uses the word "Shemale" in their name, no big interracial porn company is going to call themselves NiggerLovers without controversy
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>>6469380
but they look and feel amazing
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>>6469380
I like girl jeans :(
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>>6469383
red check skype!!! it's important!
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>>6469364
The body doesn't stop belonging to you.

It's no more selling your body than any other kind of wage labor.

>>6469344
Esp. shemale, seriously maddie?
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>>6469371
"It's our word" is an argument reserved for barbaric apes. Its a word that hurts their feelings, why is this hard to understand?

>>6469372
Can you be a sissy and tru-trans? Was there ever a conclusion?
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>>6469387
Yes, but they are objectively less functional than men's jeans.

>>6469388
I do too, but I miss pockets
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>>6469371
And you want to be called she, if you want to be socially polite, I'm just giving you how you should act, you should be saying

"I'm sorry I realize those words are socially stigmatized" and just drop it, or lose the contact, and everyone else in the future who cares, which is most wealthy gays and lesbians.
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>>6469361
Sup :3
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>>6469393
>>6469371
i mean desu i'd say the vast majority of ppl here don't really feel comfortable hearing it, at least outside of 4chan
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>>6469379
To reiterate my point to you: the which in period I was the happiness was living in a friend's living room with no money and not while I was in a homeless shelter. All I've done is to make you see that I do indeed understand between the varying degrees of homelessness.

Who's to say I had no worries living with my friend? Me, who actually went through the situation or you?
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>>6469393
then you're renting your body
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>>6469393
that's what I was saying!
>>6469354
just get a tote
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>>6469395
girls in boy jeans are the best desu
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>>6469378
some men get off on having a woman depend on them monetarily
often the only recompense they get is time with the woman

anyway i was joking about looking for one, even if i like the idea

>>6469346
i love sushi ;~; but dont really like handrolls
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>>6469338
Sure you do.

>>6469349
>Do you wear makeup?
I try to but I don't know how to hide my beard shadow so it's kind of a lost battle. I still try though.
>Do you work?
No. Nor do I go to school atm trying to get into one next year though.
>Do you have IRL friends that are close?
No real irl friends since elementary school which was like 10 years ago.

>>6469336
Good luck wherever you're going :o
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>>6469400
You're original point is lost, and I don't care about your sleep over


So guys yah money does buy happiness, I was poor and it suckkkked
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>>6469384
>Not understanding sarcasm .

How the fuck are you even alive?

Stop your fucking ghetto badventure and go home to mommy and daddy.
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>>6469386
I think what I'm doing is part of the reclaiming project
>>6469394
Lmao sorry I didn't realize I was responding to someone who's opinion was garbage
>>6469393
Shemale, sissy, idc
>>6469396
>you want to be called she
Are you serious right now? I AM a woman. It's not a question of want. These are hardly the same thing. Like, damn. I expected more from you, wtf
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>>6469349
>My brother knows and keeps trying to convert me to Christianity so I will not "pretend to be a girl" anymore.
:c

My brother won't try to convert me to a religion, thankfully, but I have seen him express strong disapproval of trans people in general before, so I really don't expect things to go well when he finds out about me.
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>>6469406
All that matters to me is you were joking. You're an attractive gal and you shouldn't degrade yourself like that.
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>>6469406
>i love sushi ;~; but dont really like handrolls
well what about mexican food then?
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>>6469386
>big interracial porn company
Why would they care about controversy, that would literally be free advertising if people started raising hell about it.
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>>6469402
You're almost always renting your body for money tho.

>>6469403
I saw, imo it's a better argument but it's hard to make work with people who are horrified by it :/
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>>6469421
yeah that's usually what people rent things for
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>>6469415
dude whatever lmao
i have nothing against sex work or sex workers and will continue not having anything against it

in fact im planning on quitting my 9-6 wage slave job to cam how does that make you feel
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>>6469425
>in fact im planning on quitting my 9-6 wage slave job to cam how does that make you feel

link pls.
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>>6469417
I LOVE IT
too many calories though ;(
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>>6469344
If it makes them uncomfortable then it's polite to not use it around them. Use them however you like otherwise, I kind of agree with the sentiment of reclaiming "tranny" and use it all the time. Why would you want to reclaim shemale though?

>>6469405
>tfw no boy jeans with hips
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>>6469233
Damn! That's a really low standard, imo. I run and sometimes play basketball for fun. I could run that tomorrow in under 14 min. Now I wish I wasn't against enlisting in the military XD.
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>>6469408
Money buys you basic securities is the things you can get readily get with money are quite low on Maslow's hierarchy of needs. But okay, let's just say my experiences in life is negated by "Faye" on 4chan. Sorry to hear you were poor though.

>>6469409
>How the fuck are you even alive?
I breathe in and out my friend.

>Stop your fucking ghetto badventure and go home to mommy and daddy.
I've been living on my own for quite a while now away from mommy and daddy, thank you. I wouldn't want to disturb their well earned privacy.
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>>6469410
Eh, go fuck yourself hon.
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>>6469410
>TFW Maddie doesn't care about your shitpost anymore because she's being awesome serious.

I guess i'll go be funny somewhere else, then.

>>6469398
How's your tummy?
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>take shower
>get out
>look in mirror
>notice I'm actually pretty cute
>heart skips a beat
Good feel, why can't this happen all the time?
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>>6469430
OK, let me me be a little clearer. Certainly it would be polite to refrain from saying it. I don't disagree with that. But should I, given that fact and the fact that I'm comfort saying it and I take it that I'm doing important reclamatory work, censor myself? Like, morally should I?
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>>6469425
I really don't carry similar sentiments about camming, so I don't feel anything at all. You might want to be careful where that digital footprint lands, but other than that at least you're not risking STIs or worse.
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>>6469433
>Money buys you basic securities is the things you can get readily get with money are quite low on Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

What an abortion.
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>>6469434
Lmao kill yourself you disgusting weeb faggot, ur more delusional about ur looks than anyone else who posts here
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>>6469440
Maybe someday
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>>6469383
Growing up was hard. It shaped us into who we are. I am glad I have found someone that gets how it was for me growing up. It is a nice feeling, the world doesn't seem so small...

>>6469412
:| I hope everything ends up going OK with telling him. I thought my brother would flip but he was oddly ok with it. He just thinks I will burn in hell for it.
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>>6469430
iktf :( I just stick to jean short shorts
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>>6469446
Whatever helps you sleep at night, hon.
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>>6469445
There's nothing "abortion" about what I said. By the way, all magazines have editors and mine isn't available at the moment.
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>there are actually people who get triggered by being called a tranny jokingly by other trannies
Some of you just need to stop having such thin skin.
That or develop a thing called a sense of humor and stop being such a bitch.
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>>6469453
>There's nothing "abortion"

Just stop.
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>>6469441
>and I take it that I'm doing important reclamatory work
what?
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How many miles until I become best girl.... My feet are numb
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>>6469452
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what are some fun things to do in nyc by yourself?
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>>6469433
Ugh , ok you're a "badass genius level trans" who comes to school people because you're awesome enlightened and we're all in awe of you.

You should get a trip so we can like elect you queen or something. Yay!
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>>6469371
>>6469394
>>6469410
>>6469434
>>6469446
>>6469452
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>>6469455
If you truly wanted me to stop, surely you'd just stop talking to me already. But clearly you have a dysfunctional idea of how communication works.
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>>6469441
It's not really a question of morals, it's a question of respecting the opinions of others and not being intentionally inflammatory.
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>>6469457
You already have a good body why u do dis
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>>6469447
I hope so
but for now, time to spend the day feeling good about myself until I look in the mirror again
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>>6469449
yeah! Don't ever let your past experiences get you too down!
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>tfw you will never pass
>tfw everyone hugboxes you perpetually
>therapist says you pass "extremely well" and that you're "fortunate"
>boyfriend says you pass and thinks you look perfect
>he isn't ashamed to be seen with you as if you passed
>boyfriend's family pretends to think you're a cis girl, always act like they aren't aware their son is invested in a relationship with a freak
>even his grandparents are in on the joke
fuck this mental illness
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