Not gonna post the full pic because gore, but his Instagram account name is in the pic. If you care, show this guy love from the LGBT community.
>>6413461
but the kurds are muslim
>>6413469
Mostly, they're also Christian (Catholic and Protestant) and Yazidis (they're Kurdish) are Zorastrians.
They don't allow religion to rule them, they fight for their own democracy and freedom, that's what makes them different.
>>6413469
not all of them. unfortunately a lot, but how about the yazidi.
the muslim kurds have thus far proven something that most other muslims haven't, that their ethnic identity is stronger and they won't capitulate to other muslims who claim to be more muslim than them.
>>6413461
nice
>>6413469
The kurds are communist, lots of them are atheists and the ones that arent probably are more concerned with not getting airstiked or whatever to care about muh sharia
>>6413487
I heard a saying once that the biggest religion in Japan is being Japanese. The Kurds are quickly becoming the same way, and that's a very good thing.
>>6413511
Just some clarification, the Kurds did once allign themselves with Communist ideals. But have settled on Democratic Socialism, for the most part. There are still some Hammer N' Sickle holdovers; but for the most part it's all about representative democracy and strong central and regional governments.
If anybody on /LGBT/ is interested, I've seen multiple posts from organizations in West-Kurdistan (Rojava) asking explicitly for LGBT activists to volunteer to help teach in Rojava.
https://m.reddit.com/r/rojava/comments/3fxetl/is_it_safe_for_lgbt_people_in_rojava/
Teachers are more valuable to them than soldiers (they have plenty of those).
I'd make a separate thread, but I don't want to spam.
This world is so fucked up and depressing when human death is celebrated.
>>6413640
I felt the same once, about people celebrating the death of Osama Bin Laden.
But this is different, this isn't celebration. This is solidarity. Revenge. Fighting what is objectively evil.
>>6413652
>objectively
>>6413676
I'm not above admitting when I'm wrong. Applying objectivity to religious fundamentalism and extremism is disingenuous at best.
>>6413640
Go hug a tree.
>>6413640
>Muslims
>Human
>>6413640
>implying it's not a 10,000 year old tradition
>>6413640
Human life isn't sacred. There's over 7 fucking billion of us. We're not worth jack shit so why not celebrate the deaths of your enemies?
>>6413461
>those comments
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGkO3yiyPI5/?taken-by=peshmerganor
kek
>>6413640
You can bet your libby ass that hundreds of millions of "moderate" Muslims all around the world were celebrating Orlando.
I'd be nothing short of lying if I said had any love for Islam, or any religion for that matter. That being said, confusing the Kurdish armies for "Islamic Militants" is nothing short of wrong.
Not simply because Kurds are more than just Muslim (when it comes to religion), but because their organizations are secular through and through. No Kurdish military or government organization in any way ties itself to religion like everyone else in the M.E. does.
These people have recently elected at least one openly gay politician.
Women literally fight and die alongside men, hold positions of power, just like men.
TL;DR: Are Kurds mostly Muslim? Yes. Does that actually matter at all when it comes to them? No.
>>6413461
A dead mudslime in a pool of blood isn't gore, it's what every mudslime deserves.
Islamists torturing Christian kids is the real gore.
>>6415009
Most of them are praises and "thank you"s. With the occasional troll because it's the Internet. And of course the apparently semi-constant "How do I join?" Comments.
Unless I missed something.
>>6415303
It's possible that the volunteer who killed him and took the picture is a Muslim, and even more possible that some of the guys in his unit are.
Do they also deserve death for being Muslim? Even though they are the antithesis to all the other Muslims that surround and typically try to kill them for not being "Muslim enough"?
Not trying to invalidate your animosity, I get it, I hate religion more than I tolerate it sometimes. Just don't forget that these are also Muslims who allow openly gay people to exist in their society.
>>6415326
>implying the secular commies such as PKK can be considered Muslim
>>6415326
>Do they also deserve death for being Muslim?
Yes.
>But guuuuuyyyys be toleraaaaaaaant!
No. Fuck you. I'm done with that shit. Death to Muslims, death to Islam.
>>6415333
True, the Kurds are about as "Muslim" as American Christians are "Christian". Even though they don't go to church, eat pork, drink alcohol, mix fabric, work on Sunday, and may be anything but "straight".
>>6415341
I said nothing about tolerance, just wanted to see if you were consistent in your new ideology.
I don't agree obviously, but I can respect consistency.
>>6413461
Kurds are bro tier i'll never understand why int hates Kurds
Kurds deserve a nation and it will be glorious
>>6415452
Turks hate Kurds. There's a lot of Turks on int.
>>6415457
oh yeah that's true too bad since i like Turks too but I'll take a Kurd over a Turk any day so womp womp
>>6415452 Basically >>6415457
Much of Bakur (north-west Kurdistan) is in south Turkey, there's about 25 million Kurds there too.
The Kurds are fighting to liberate their nation from Turkey, Iran, Iraq, and Syria.
If they are successful at separating from Turkey, well that's a whole section of their country gone.
The war is only going to get more intense as the Turks attack Kurdish cities, and kill mostly civilians. They're driving more and more Kurds in Turkey to join the PKK and fight them.
>>6415472
You, me, and the rest of the international community. The Turkish government is becoming more extremist too. They're likely to get kicked out of NATO soon. And when that happens, it's all out war against Turkey, and most nations will be supporting the Kurds.
Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, Italy, and other nations have made if very clear that they'd much rather have the Kurds as allies. Which makes sense, considering the Kurds more or less look up to western nations.
>>6415296
They are communists though.
Worse than Islamists.
>>6415488
They're not communists. They once aligned themselves with Communism, yes. But even that was mostly to get support from the USSR.
Now they've settled on Democratic Socialism. Like many western nations.
The fall of the USSR probably has a lot to do with that.
>>6415495
>Democratic Socialism
>Like many western nations
This is thankfully not the case. Don't worry, most Western European nations are Market-Complaint Democracies, meaning while common people can make suggestion about how to rule the country every 4 or 5 years, it's actually the successful people who drive the economy who are truly in charge and it's the politicians who have to follow suit.
Democratic Socialism means economists have to listen to politicians, which is absurd, and also there is this retarded fixation about the common worker, who for some reason is as equal as the captains of the industry of one country.
But you are right, the Kurds "claim" they are this, and Americans made them do so, because it sounds nicer, otherwise they would not receive world wide support, but once they feel strong they will instantly drop the façade and get out the hammer and sickle.
>>6415487
>Germany, Norway, Sweden, France, Italy, and other nations have made if very clear that they'd much rather have the Kurds as allies
German here. Even after insults from Erdogan and recent affairs involving a certain comedian activist, and a certain resolution, German government still prefers to work with Turkey than with Kurdish socialist, who are listed as a leftist terrorist organisation.
And I assume other Western countries do as well.
Just recently, the Turkish government received 6 billion dollar from Germany. Germany doesn't give that money for short-term relationship. Also there are German and Dutch troops stationed at the Turkish-Syrian border, officially guarding the border against IS rockets, despite it being Kurdish controlled territory for a long time.
>>6413640
>"ss1683FYI Pusle @Orlando were a bunch of sodomite fags who loved to indulge in sexual sin... Who gives a shit if they died"
A comment on this exact picture. I want to see these people dead. Not gonna lie.
>>6415512
Even if they do, they are democratic. Which means a lot to me personally
Kurds helped protect the Assyrians I'm grateful for that
>>6415526
https://www.rt.com/news/326401-germany-ammunition-weapons-kurds/
Supportingtwo or more conflicting sides isn't only not unheard of, it's common.
>>6415555
Allende was also democratic. Doesn't mean he wasn't dangerous for our interests.
Sorry, but Turkey will invade with the help of the NATO as soon as IS has finally crumbled and YPG is no longer needed.
Another case of communism not working as always.
>>6415555
Turkey is officially democratic too, Erdogan is a president.
>>6415544
I can't blame you. But you can't kill an idea.
>>6415567
Peshmerga are not Rojava Kurds though.
Iraqi Kurds had a civil war not long ago. Syrian and Turkish Kurds backed the losers so Rojava doesn't get along with Berzani, who is in charge of Iraqi Kurdistan now.
Berzani has good relationship with Erdogan, therefore also good relationship with NATO and Germany. His organisation is NOT a terrorist organisation and he helps destroying PKK camps.
>>6415571
Invade what? Rojava? A relatively small portion of Lurdistan. Do you expect the Turkish military to cross the Iraq bord? The Iranian border?
There's between 25 and 30 million Kurds in Turkey, they're already being pushed to militancy due to the recent attacks on Kurdish cities in Turkey. If Turkey invades Syrian Kurdistan they'll just have more of an all out civil war to fight in the south of their own country.
>>6415580
I'm not sure who lied to you and told you the Peshmerga are fighting the PKK...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnc7KTXHl6s
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pu2r0Lna7vk
The short Kurdish civil war is the entire reason they're so nationalistic and unified now. The divisions of their regional governments does not reflect the Kurdish population at all.
>>6415526
Funny how Merkel is absolutely intent on making Germany a living hell for women. Do you think she likes it when Erdogan slaps her around? Maybe she likes being choked too.
>>6415584
Erdogan get's along well with Berzani, no reason at all to invade Iraq, despite the fact that they actually doing so to rout out PKK camps.
Iranian Kurds are not organised, Iran has them under tight control.
So of course I am talking about Rojava. Main target was always Assad and Turkey always wanted a 25 km buffer zone which has coincidentally the same shape of Rojava.
They are not afraid of a civil war, because Cizre and Diyarbakir are bombed to the ground. The Kurds are losing in Turkey, there are not enough fighters to call this war civil and anything Turkish military is doing in Kurdistan has a strict news blackout in Europe.
So civil war? Not likely.
>>6415526
>German here
I'm so sorry.
>>6415580
You're right about one thing though. Iraqi Kurdistan does want the war between Rojava and Thrkey to end. Because the Turks aren't gonna get rid of the Kurds, and the Kurds aren't gonna get rid of the Turks. This war's been dragging on since the 80's and shows no signs of stopping.
>>6415605
Again, who the fucks been lying to you? Are they really saying that the Peshmerga are fighting the PKK in Turkey?
>>6415593
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Kurdish_Civil_War
You clearly have no idea about the politics of that region. There may be Peshmerga who have sympathy for their brethren but they are far the minority there, as the majority is very unreliable.
Also if Berzani is a democratic socialist, then the Kurds in Rojava are more Communist than Marx. Since you called Western Europe States democratic socialist, I just assume you had a miscalculation.
>>6415619
The Kurdish civil war is the whole reason they are the way they are now. They've literally never been more unified. Never been more nationalistic.
But hey, we're just two people arguing over shit son the Internet, our biases feed our outlook.
You think the Kurds political divisions matter to them more than their new found unity, I think the opposite. Neither of us are right until Turkey gets stupid enough to invade Syrian Kurdistan, or the 25+ million Kurds in Turkey decide to become separatists.
Only time will tell.
>>6415603
>>6415611
I don't know why international press builds her as some Thatcher/Clinton hybrid and >le most powerful woman on earth
Ever since she got spied by NSA without any followup consequences, everyone knows that she is a turncoat. If any political or economical issue is on the bulletin, she lets her ministers debate them and take the flak. She is very silent about it. I remember there was a German speaking American on the talkshow, who complained about German mentality, as in we had to shut the fuck up about interior politics, when she is doing great job on foreign politics (great job at what? Bullying Kenya into signing a free trade agreement?).
For you Merkel turncoating may come as a great shock especially after how "well" she performed in Greece, but every German knew, that like always, whenever she promises something, it only takes 6 months before she pulls 180°.
There was times when we could get rid of her, but the centre-left parties refused to do a coalition with the far-left party under any circumstances, so they backed Merkel instead.
>>6415640
In Iraq.
As there are quite socialist in Syria and Turkey.
>>6413528
This. Based academic Murray Bookchin, father of "social ecology", actually had a long correspondence with PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan while the latter was in prison and - surprisingly - managed to convince this once hard-line leninist to abandon Communism and embrace democratic, libertarian socialism.
So now their goal is a kind of socialism but with very strong local power, and a lot of local free-markets and protection for small private businesses. We'll see how it works out, but we ain't had shit like this since the Spanish Civil War, so fingers crossed....
>>6413595
>strongly considering taking a sabbatical from uni and teaching in Rojava....
>>6415651
I feel like the main problem right now is that the Kurds lack a strong central government to keep their relatively strong regional governments from doing stupid shit out of pride, like closing their border for a month because they couldn't agree on taxes...yes that actually happened last month. But they thankfully came to their senses and reopened the border.
They need a strong central governing body keep stupid pissing contests like that from happening.
>>6415341
>Yes
>To wanting to kill people who are obviously just culturally moslem in the way Americans are Christian and don't really give a fuck about religion
>To wanting to kill people risking their lives right now to defeat ISIS
>To wanting to kill people openly going out of their way to support and align themselves with the LBGT community and give us justice
>>6415488
>shit talking former commies
>emphasis on FORMER
>who now fight ISIS
>defend queers
>defend democracy
>somehow "worse" than ISIS because reasons
They day of the rope will come. But it won't be like what you imagine, right-wing scum.
>>6415664
Iraqi Kurdistan accepts volunteer teachers too. Just so you know.
http://www.iq.undp.org/content/iraq/en/home/operations/v.html
Rojava tends to be far welcoming of volunteers doctors, teachers, etc.
But Iraqi Kurdistan volunteer program is understandably much more "official".
>>6415676
Islam defenders like you deserve to die right alongside your goat-raping buddies. Shame you weren't at Pulse.
Just to keep this thread relevant to /LGBT/
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7537648.html
>>6415686
How do you justify feeling this way towards people (Kurds) who don't kill LGBT+ people? Just curious.
>>6415526
>Swede here.
>tfw the feminist party and the leftist party are the only ones that are pushing for the government to stop working with Turkey and ally with Rojava
>only ones who are hence pushing for an offensive against ISIS
>tfw leftists and feminists once again only ones who give a shit about queer lives and the principles of democracy
>tfw Sweden still "cucked" because these people apparently have too much power as opposed to not enough
>tfw Swedish government gives my tax money goes to Turkey so their army can shoot at Rojava rebels for shits and giggles
>tfw literally blood on my hands and I can't do shit about it
>>6415688
>huffingtonpost
>>6415676
>FORMER
won't fall for that meme
The reasons Islamists are so prominent, is because Western countries spent an insane amount of money to prevent the rise of a Second Global Communist movement.
Islamists are so medieval and backwards, they will never reach the potential grade of organisation communists have, hell Islamists were created to battle Communism first in Afghanistan and before IS went rouge, they were considered part of the Syrian Opposition Force.
Gay and Weed issues are perfect examples of disgruntling workers from the leftist causes. Economically wise they are non issues and if you manage to gain success at something, congratulation, you won a non-victory, you still won't grab free stuff from successful people, fucking parasites.
>>6415691
>+
Please no.
>>6415696
http://anonhq.com/elections-2015-pro-gay-pro-women-kurds-set-change-turkey/
Better?
>>6415691
Those who adhere to Islam are my enemies. Those who defend my enemies are also my enemies. I sincerely hope you're murdered by a pack of Muslims.
>>6415571
>Allende was also democratic. Doesn't mean he wasn't dangerous for our interests.
>Our interests
>OUR
>Not the interests of international capital which you have not stake in
>Not the interests of capitalists, which again you have no stake in because you're not a capitalist
Ah, indentifying with your masters instead of your brothers. Good slave.
Your attitude also confirms the socialist suspicion that fans of capitalism don't like democracy - they accept it as long as a pro-capitalist candidate wins but as soon as a socialist one does, then any and all anti-democratic tactics are OK.
>>6415711
And the Kurds who are atheist, Christian, Zorastrians?
>>6415721
No.
>>6415695
All of our governments have made us accomplices to their actions.
All money is blood money
All hands are stained.
>>6415725
"No." What?
>>6415738
No, they're not Muslim. So no, they're not my enemy.
>>6415695
Doesn't the feminist party also advocate open gate immigration?
>>6415744
I can respect your consistency and your right to hold the position you do, at least.
>>6415712
I will never call lazy proles my brothers.
They could literally be out of their misery if they worked harded.
Could we at least stop pretending that you care about democracy? Everyone knows, once you take the steerwheel, everything turns to shit. The reason, some communist countries are allowed to exist is to exactly showcase that.
Now in a Market-Compliant Democracy, it is thankfully not the politician who is in charge, but the economist. Politicians are people who didn't made it into the economy, so they have to work for the economy to be accepted among their mids. Whatever pet issues they may entertain the common folks, they should do so, be it conservative, socdems, greens, liberals or right-wing populists. Everything goes as long as they let the economy the fuck alone! Also if one party fails, it is good to release steam every 4 or 5 years and elect another party in their stead. It's enough times for proles to forget and forgive their past transgressions. And commies seriously want THEM to rule the country? I''m fucking laughing, mate.These parties are working for the same folks anyway. This way proles will do the least damage.
>>6415712
Everybody wants democracy, until it stops going their way, sadly.
>>6415691
>+
when did this disgusting meme start by the way? The + just feels like an useless appendix that might or might not murder you.
>>6415686
Except I wasn't defending Islam but defending the guys currently KILLING the Islamists. Do you see the difference? Lets take it again, slowly so that you can follow: Group A is people who are Islamists. They go pew-pew and kill people. Innocent people. Queer people. Group B is NOT Islamists. "Is not" are two words that means the opposite of "is". In fact, Group B HATES the Islamists and they go pew-pew and kill the Islamists. They defend innocent people. They avenge the queer people that the Islamists in Group A killed. Are you with me so far, poor little retard? Good! Now lets kick up the complexity a tiiiny notch.
Group B consists of people that where raised in a historically Moslem country. They are not followers of Islam, as evidenced by them actively and mercilessly killing Islamic fundamentalists. But they are what is known "culturally moslem", i.e. do cultural stuff like celebrate the feastivals, hold weddings in mosques, etc. Kinda like even someone who hates Christianity - say Richard Dawkins - might celebrate Christmas. It has no religious significance, it's just a cultural thing.
So, lets recap: I am supporting a group, Group B, that IS NOT (and remember that means the opposite of "is"!) Islamist and is currently killing people in Group A who ARE Islamists ("are" is the plural form of "is"!). You should also use a sharp razor to cut your veins open and die. Remeber what Rippy the Razor says and cut DOWN and not ACROSS. Good luck, you worthless fucking pile of shit!
>>6415776
I personally think "LGBT" is a strong acronym and shouldn't be tampered with. But some people use "LGBT+" and "LGBTQ" now.
>>6415787
I don't care if you're culturally or religiously Muslim, if you refer to yourself as Muslim in any capacity I want you dead. I want Islam to burn in all its forms. You can die with it, you worthless fucking pile of shit.
>>6415806
How do you feel about other religions? Just curious.
>>6415787
I know it's hard to understand, but please try to. Some people have been too hurt by certain things to ever see them as anything but their existential antithesis.
>>6415665
The problem is that you assume that a central government won't be stupid also. The only difference is that they'd have the power to make EVERYONE follow their stupid policies. This is why local power and non-hierarchical structures are better: because people sometimes do stupid shit and this limits the spread of their stupidity.
>>6415691
Step 1: Be an hateful idiot.
Step 2: There is no step 2.
>>6415697
>won't fall for that meme
And you base this rejection of facts on what exactly?
Now I'm not saying ALL of them have given it up and some no doubt still harbour some commie ideas, but if you look at what they're doing in practice, however limited it may be at the moment, it doesn't look like they're enacting any Communist ideas.
>>6415711
So if you are attacing the enemies of the Islamists who are trying to stop them, doesn't that kinda make you your own enemy?
>>6415751
Kinda sorta, I think their condition is that Sweden has it if everyone is Europe also does. Honestly I'm kinda trying to not touch the immigration debate with anything shorter than a ten foot pole since everyone in it is either a neo-nazi or a libertard that wants the borders wide open and without security and by god I don't deal well with retards regardless of politicall alignment.
>>6415769
>Market-Compliant
>Democracy
Pick one. And don't pick Market-Compliant. I gurantee you that massa won't even give you a pat on the head if you do.
I won't even argue with you since you believe in the Just World fallacy ("they wouldn't be poor if they worked hard HURR DURR!") but I'll ask you this: do you own large amounts of capital? Land? Any of the means of production? No? Well then you ARE a prole, motherfucker - you might be a well off one, Western middle-class and all that, but if your labour is the only thing you have to sell then you are part of the proletariat. Sorry?
>>6415296
It's nice to see that even in the middle of darkest shithole true humans still exist.
Hope they are gonna get through this
>>6415894
No matter what happens, rest assured the Kurds will survive.
>6415806
Are you an enemy of Islam or an enemy of silly, meaningless labels? The problem of this is when the two contradict each-other, as in this case. You have one side that IS Islamic and wants to kill you. And you have one side that is NOT Islamic, expect kinda sorta maybe calls themselves 'culturally moslem' or 'secular moslem' kinda maybe and doesn't - in practice - belive any of it. This latter side is trying to kill the Islamists and defend you from them. But nope, they maybe labeled themselves kinda half-heartedly the wrong thing so kill them all then? And let the actual Islamists run rampant?
'Cause that's the problem. Not that you hate Islam. But that you hate it so blindly, so autistically, that you'd kill actual allies just because. That you'd aid your real enemies by getting rid of the people standing in their way. And not only that: you'd kill EVERYONE that doesn't think the same, is the same as you. Why? So you can be all cool and edgy on the Internet? You know what that would lead to in practice? You, standing all alone surrounded by dead former allies and a whole bunch of actual enemies with no one on your side.
How old are you anyway, brah? You sound angsty and immature as fuck, I'm just saying...
>>6415848
>>6415806
I was chased out of homeland by religious extremists (both Christian and Moslem) that wanted to kill my family. They DID kill a shitload of my relatives. I despise them. But I like myself and mine, so I'm not gonna shoot myself in the foot just 'cause some people haven't rejected religion as fully as I have. If they're friends and allies in practice, and if I NEED the fuckers, then I can live with their silly labels even if it does offend me at some level.
Hopefully they'll get over it and fully embrace secularism at some point. If not then fuck 'em. But a gun is a gun and an ally is an ally and beggars can't be choosers.
>>6415938
I hope they realize how self-destructive their stance is too.
Something else relevant.
https://zivmagazine.com/2015/07/14/when-will-kurdish-politicians-talk-officially-about-gay-rights-in-kurdistan/
>>6415966
I mean it is ia little like fighting nazis and having to ally with a bunch of people that are like "well no I'm not a full nazi like them, but sure I sing the nazi songs and do the salaute and celebrate the Fuhrer's birthday, but that's just culture man, relax!". I mean on the one hand that is weird and offensive... but on the other, if they ARE my allies and seem to have the right views in pratice, then I suppose that I can live with it until they realise themselves how silly it is.
Given the cultural background and upbringing of these people, it's surprising that they've come this far, with many abandoning Islam completely and a lots of others going more or less fully secular. They're almost there. Those who still cling to it half-assedly just need time and maybe some support and someone to discuss this crap with them, give them some arguments and such. Going "hurr durr kill them all!" when they're inches away from the finish line is fucking retarded. It would be retarded even if they weren't currently fighting on our side...
>>6416005
Yeah, the older people in Kurdistan are the ones who really cling to their religiosity. Thankfully the Kurdish population is younger on average.
And the kids that call themselves "Muslim" just do it because they don't have a reason not to. Most young Kurdish women don't wear Hijabs, but most older women do, to give one example.
Many of them are just straight up atheists, they usually leave whatever region of Kurdistan they're in to join the PKK and YPG/YPJ in Rojava because they're the most accepting of open atheists.
They're also the most accepting of LGBT people, so they have a lot of them in their ranks as well.
>>6416058
>call themselves "Muslim" just do it because they don't have a reason not to
This. People forget that over there it's the norm, and that they might not understand the levels of resentment people over here have for Islam. Over there you're kinda just moslem by default; I doubt that they've given it much thought. But if they did they might come around.
>>6416094
It's not even "might", could you imagine if all of Kurdistan had access to the Internet?
>>6415326
>Muslims who allow openly gay people to exist in their society.
Wow they allow them to exist. So tolerant and advanced and civilized.
>>6416954
Would you prefer The Turks and Kurds kill LGBT people like all of the people around them?
>>6416954
And did you somehow miss the part about the very pro LGBT HDP political party that's currently gaining power?
The very pro-LGBT youth in Kurdistan pressuring their politicians to pass official legislation about the protected rights of LGBT people?
>>6416982
I just think it's funny that allowing a certain group of people to exist is considered "progressive" for a society.
It shows how irredeemably backward and primitive Muslim culture is.
>>6416996
I missed that, and I'll probably miss the suicide bombers and machine gun attacks against that party as well for being pro-western, because I don't give a fuck about Turkish politics.
>tfw fags are blaming guns and conservatives for the tragedy
I can't even. We deserve death at this point.
>>6417014
As much as I may despise the Turkish government, they're stable. Same for the Kurdish governments.
This isn't really about Turkey though, it's about the Kurds. And even the conservative parts of their society aren't militant. They just don't vote for the progressive parties, but it's a losing fight because most of the Kurdish population is young and progressive, so they vote progressive.
>>6417015
What does that have to do with this thread?
>>6417014
Somebody in this thread summed it up perfectly. Muslim Kurds are about as "Muslim" as Christian Americans are "Christian". Which is not very much at all.
>>6413595
>asking explicitly for LGBT activists to volunteer to help teach in Rojava.
Why the fuck would someone teach in a desert hellhole where you won't be appreciated for your efforts anyway?
>>6413640
This is the field of human compassion.
Lay thine eyes upon it and thou shall see that it is barren.
>>6418239
That's what volunteer work is...that's the definition of "volunteer". Hasn't stopped thousands of people from volunteering.
It's about helping people you allign with philosophically, ideologically, and in some cases just helping to help something other than yourself.
Definitely not for everyone.
>>6418239
Also the Kurds appreciate foreigners who help them and prove themselves as they do their own.
>>6418769
I'll bite. What exactly does the Allan have to do with Kurdistan?
*Klan
>>6415488
Reagan pls
>>6415651
Fingers crossed here too. As an American, I'm rooting for this Kurdish experiment in the hope that we might be able to implement some of those ideas closer to home, should they prove viable.
