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We didn't start the fire, its been burning since the worlds been turning...
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>No bullying
>No hugboxing
>No tumblr shit
>No *actions*
>No drama

Previous >>6304854

Let's do our best, girls!
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first for sheen will make it
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>>6305859
>girls
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>>6305870
I think sheen is making it, tho.
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>>6305872
>tfw

Ive to get up in less than 5 hours
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Rate me P-pls I need validation x_x
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>>6305872
shoo boy

>>6305877
yes!
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Nth for weeb music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIZ7wAj5vgg&list=LL5XZ6LuXJNtuj6TDTHhTzTQ&index=83
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>>6305881
11/10 anon
youre the best
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>>6305881
where is your pic qt anon?
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>>6305859
>its been burning since the worlds been turning...
It was always burnin, since the world was turnin~


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
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>>6305881
I'll validate you my HPD sister!!!!!
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Nth for Titchbits is my waifu
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>>6305868
>Focus on building your portfolio then.
Hum what would that even be like for web design? My first project will be making my tumblr look nice and stylish but chunks of it will be done via the tumblr API elements so I can't claim full credit for it.
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>no song link
>NO SONG LINK
You had ONE job!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
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>>6305888
>>6305890
Sorry I dropped trip h-heh
>>6305893
What's hpd
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i wanna be cute
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>>6305897
See:>>6305891
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>>6305885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g
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>>6305881
cute girl/10
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>tfw ur chillin' at the computer and you put your hand down ur pants and touch ur vagjay and it's all moist
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>>6305891
>LETS PLAY THE VIDEO WITH THE PREGNANT LADY, AND HER PERFECT BABY

jump in fire plx
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>>6305885
>music
I recorded a thing if you're interested
https://m.soundcloud.com/e-lanna-beats/whatamidoingeven
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>>6305878
>>6305878
Just.... Don't. Dont.
>>6305883
But my pecs quiver for ladyboi attention
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>>6305895
you could make different types of webpages to show what you can do, it's better if they are in use but then can be just demos.
you could add an extra part to your porfolio about specialized tumblr design, it's better if you also have wordpress.
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>>6305907
you mean this one
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>>6305907
>HER PERFECT BABY
You kidding me? that kid's a little shit.

>THE PREGNANT LADY
Yeah... I'll admit that I forgot the video had that...
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>>6305895
Make sample websites then.

ill give you 5 to design

Legal Firm
Mexican restaurant
Flower shop
small hardware store
Music store

I bet your country keeps statistics on small businesses and such, use google or call your country's business bureau. and design one for the top 5 categories.
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>>6305910
not getting up? but I need a bloodtest for ffs...
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>>6305907
i'm happy I chose to ignore the video now...
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>>6305905
Yesssss oh God that's it... Ty
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>>6305916
;----------------------------------------------------;
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>>6305909
I want to listen to this as I dominate your ass
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>>6305921
Then roll. Roll like your face and future depend on it
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>>6305909
>likes techno
>likes drugs
>is slutty
you must love raves
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>>6305906
iktf
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>>6305915
>>6305920
Gotta keep these in mind thanks. I'm still pretty fucking shit at this so will take a while before I get to making presentable pages.
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just woke up o.o
how are u mtfg?
how was your day or how is it going?
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>>6305906
>>6305932
Aw
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>>6305924
you would have to take a dick to get pregnant though
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>tfw you realize that you went from vanilla sexuality to extreme masochism in less than a year
>tfw bf doesnt wanna crack your ribs
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>>6305899
>HPD Histrionic personality disorder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder

I self diagnosed myself today, and I'm trying to make it replace BPD as mtfg's mental illness.
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>>6305916
> break_a_trans_girls_heart.mpeg
I am so done with this feel.
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>>6305899
>What's hpd
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=HPD

>>6305904
what is this normie shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUbK3VUAZoo&list=LL5XZ6LuXJNtuj6TDTHhTzTQ&index=93

>>6305909
>eyylanna
I approve.
This mix is pretty cool, but does the BPM ever pick up? It's really really slow...

Btw, I just remembered that someone said the name Alana would suit me, but I went with Charlotte instead because I hate being told what to do.

>>6305928
>you must love raves
lol
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>>6305907
Is it this one?
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>>6305945
I score very high on most tests desu, Ive no idea if I really am super nuts or if there are false positives in there as well.
at least I am not autistic I guess ;~;
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>>6305947
IF I HAVE TO FEEL LIKE SHIT FOR NEVER BEING A MOTHER THEN EVERYONE HAS TO
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>>6305951
iktf except I'm also a mega autist

>>6305921
you lucky shit, gtfo of bed
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>>6305944
Cracking ribs doesn't sound fun or maybe I just got really bad experience with it.
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>tfw 200 hair ties
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>>6305916
this will be me one day. i'm not even upset, i'm glowing and excited. keep up the mother and baby pics. you're doing god's work
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...

I want to go to bed, but I also don't want to be lonely and I kind of want to cook to distract myself from it and I also kind of want to go out and mug someone so that I have cash...
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>>6305944
>tfw you went from masochist to vanilla
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>>6305954
>>6305916
delete this
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>>6305928
I should hope I do or else I've really wasted these past 6 years as a raver

>>6305949
>135 BPM
>slow
m8... :^)
Tempo remains the same, the energy level picks up a lot though

Also lol, honestly Charlotte fits you, gotta go with the name you want.

>>6305925
Woah, 2lewd
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>>6305943
I mean, artificial insemination is a thing
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>>6305945
I scored higher for hpd than bpd on that one mental illness test that always gets posted around here, I support this change.
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>>6305973
>ywn artificially inseminate faye
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>>6305972
>Woah, 2lewd
denied yet again
what an awful day this is
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>>6305944
like phisically break them or just crack them like when you crack your knuckles?

>>6305951
I'm mostly vanilla, except for HPD :(.
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>>6305980
Did I ever say no?
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>>6305987
what do you usually do on photoshop/illustrator?
anything you can show? D:
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>>6305987
physically

I think paranoia should be lower and antisocial on low OCD on middle
the rest I dunno
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>>6305945
1. BPD is real
2. BPD is co-morbid with a lack of self identity that can lead to you latching on to being trans
3. don't trust any mental disease where it's based on being lewd, and disproportionately effects women

this is basically hysteria 2.0
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>>6305979
you'll have to do it the old fashion way wont you
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>>6306001
>BPD is co-morbid with a lack of self identity that can lead to you latching on to being trans

exactly what my last psych said, jokes on him tho, I am never going back :^)
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Anyone mind me ranting for a while?

Because I am really angsty right now and I find it easier to talk to you people that my friends, or therapist, or anyone else I know for some reason.
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>>6305950
kek

>>6305972
>135 bpm
where I come from, it's called 270 bpm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pM2Od8ahuRk

I love the name Charlotte, and I'd rather trust my gut than listen to someone I know.
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>>6306014
Rant away. Ranting on mtfg is one of my favourite past times
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>>6305978
Let's do it anon! we're attention seeking whores, I bet we just have to mention it daily,... when someone asks to rate their pic, say it's HPD, when someone gets angry or flirts dismiss it as HPD.

transbians aren't transbians, they're just doing HPD!!!!

This is gold anon!!! let's do it.
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I'm procrastinating. Please help by entertaining me.

>>6306001
Do people think BPD isn't real? Because when you meet one it becomes pretty clear that it is.

>>6306014
Go ahead. I'll read it.
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>>6306010
if you're happier, then fuck it desu.
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>playing magic tournament
>sit down with opponent, get out things
>"what's with the pink dice you got there"
>mfw
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>>6305820
we need more chen.
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>>6306014
>I find it easier to talk to you people that my friends, or therapist, or anyone else I know for some reason.
hey same. You guys have pulled me out of more psychotic episodes and actually stabilized me in the long-term more than anyone else.
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>>6306021
they know
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>>6306001
>tfw pretty certain I have at least two out of three out of Aspergers, CPTSD and schizotypal personality disorder, all of which cite lack of sense of self and lack of awareness of own emotions as major symptoms
>tfw not even remotely trutrans
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>>6305965
not all of us have uterus's that could probably support the growth of a zygote and then get a caesarian
no bully!
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>>6306021
Did you tell them you wished you were a girl?
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>>6306018
living that crazy hpd life, everyone pay attention to me ! ! !
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>>6306001
>>6306010
Wanting to be diagnosed with BPD is a symptom of HPD, tho :^)
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>>6306015
>tfw on phone
I put it into my watch later list, I'm headed for dinner out ;~;
I actually should probably go for now
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>>6306022
okie
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>>6306034
When I was first diagnosed I was really suprised, I thought I was just depressed and stuff.
anyway Ill go to sleep
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>>6305997
>paranoia should be lower
if anything it should be higher.
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>>6306037
>dinner
oh yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.
I'll be back later.
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>>6306019
oh the implication was that the other wasn't real

histrionic is just... really really really sexist and has basically been just a diagnosis for women that act in a socially acceptable way for a man to act. and the diagnosis is heavily slanted towards women because of that.
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>>6306014
Make all the noise.

>>6306001
But women are crazy and can't be trusted. A ready-made diagnosis to that effect is inevitable.
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>>6306043
Nitey nite mädchen Phien.
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>>6306019
>>6306017
>>6306023
>>6306050


So this is almost completely related to being trans.

Almost.

I've mentioned before that I'm adopted right? Well it used not to bother me. After all, if my real mother didn't want me, she sure as hell didn't deserve me.

It was a stupid excuse but it worked. I didn't care. At all.
Only I found that she does care. Maybe a little too much honestly. Because she added me 2 years ago on google circles of all things. Now, I had no idea who she was, but my mother was spying on my emails (how she got my password, I'll never know, and I've changed it several times since) and demanded to know what she'd said to me. She hadn't actually contacted me, just added me so I hadn't talked at all, and said as much.

She eventually admitted that it was my birth mother, and I just passed it off. I still didn't care. She hadn't tried to talk to me in 18 years, why the fuck should I care what she wants now right?

I think most people are begging to guess where this is going...
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>>6306002
b-but we're both boys
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>>6306021
>brings pink dice to be center of attention
>Get's nervous when confronted about being center of attention
>Is secretly relieved when she knows gossip will build around her pink dice

HPD detected.
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>>6306045
Why?

>>6306051
th-that picture
scary
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>>6306043
nn sophie <3
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>>6306021
>"They match the color of your mom's twat after I tapped her mana pool last night biiiitch."

Boom. That'll keep you nice and closeted for a bit.

>>6306049
Oh, I see. I've never even heard of that.
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>>6306050
they already had one, it's called hysteria, and it was made by a man who could not believe that proper english men would be raping their wives, so obviously they were just emotional crazy women.
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>>6306040
yeeeah!!
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>>6306062
Hi caddy
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>>6306070
Hey! How are you? I'll get back on facespace one of these days and we can catch up.
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>>6306054

So...

Skip forward a year.
A bit of a jump, yes, but this time, my parents do something to piss me off. Particularly my mother. So I go rooting though her documents. I'll also admit, I was repressing hard, but I was still more than a little aware that I was trans so I was also looking for my birth cert for various reasons. While I didn't find it I did find a folder labelled (real name)'s adoption.

Juicy huh? I'm sort of regretting opening it.
I'm not christian. I was baptized and confirmed but that was just to fit in. If there's one god, there's a high chance there's more blah blah blah.
I found a scapular.
And a lot of letters.

19 of them.

Guess who has written a letter to me every year on my birthday.

Yeah. I was not happy. I didn't know what a scapular was, but I asked my mother about it. She asked me where I found it, and I said that it had fallen out of the drawers while I was looking for my passport.

So yeah. She cares.
That's fun and all but it hurts. It hurts a lot. Because I hate my adoptive mother. With a fiery passion. But that's not the end of this. Not by a long shot.
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>>6306056
So was it a boy or a girl, I got no attention span so I didnt read all that shit.
>>6306059
Ok how about this one.
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>>6306049
>>6306043

Actually Faye and Phien, and I'm not joking, I was relieved to see the HPD diagnosis, it sort of explains why I do all the stuff I do and take stupid risks and my constant craving for attention.

I didn't mead to sound as if I was dismissive of BPD, which is serious AF. I was just using humour to downplay the anxiety I feel about what I feel, i guess in a way that brings attention to me. :(
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So I've been doing some research on gender dysphoria and people seem to think that it's NOT a mental illness.

How the fuck is it not a mental illness????

I will agree that there is no cure, but it's just downright delusional to think that this is anywhere near normal.
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I lied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2vfBBjvbCI

MUSIC

>>6306054
>but my mother was spying on my emails
o.o what the fuck

>>6306058
Can you please stop making a joke about this? My parents telling me that I was just a hypochondriac when I complained about injuries led me to believe that she was saying I had HPD, which caused me a lot of anxiety while I was trying to get over it. On days when I could cope with being a guy, I legitimately thought that dysphoria was something I was making up for attention, and it's something I actually struggled with. I still need confirmation and validation from other people just to make sure I'm not going crazy.

The best part is that I'm closeted as fuck and afraid to go out in girl clothes because I hate getting attention, but that doesn't stop me from believing I'm just being a Histrionic.
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>>6306083
hhi bb
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im in a bad af mood
WHY IS EVERYTHING ABOUT ME SO BAD AND GROSS
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>>6306077
never really revealed but at the end they're living together in a relationship so I'm guessing she was born a boy and has some sort of endocrine issue or is actually taking hrt and is being difficult/trappy.
in any case its just a manga.
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>>6306090
i want to suck your toes pham
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>>6306061
nini sheen <3

>>6306077
thats better, way less creepy!
goofnight senpai!
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>tfw you just want to be a cute girl
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>>6306090
its not though, its just the dysphoria being bad and wrong.
you should get a punching bag and stand to get your frustration and anger out.
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>tfw it's turning out to be one of those days in the end
Downhill slide here we goooo
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>>6306086
I sort of use humor to deal with my anxiety, It's not a joke. it helps me deal and defuse the situation, because if I hold things in I start having self destructive behavior like drinking and not sleeping and other things.

I'm sorry if I upset you, but chill. I'm trying to deal with stuff the best I can just like you're doing.
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>>6306092
It's such a shame such a fun personality is only to be found in a fucking manga, I aint ever met a girl like that in real life.

Fucking bunch of cackling whores behind me in the line at 7-eleven taking stupid ass faceswap pics and using dumbass instagram filters. Jesus christ I wish I lead a death patrol in this city.

Anyways thanks for the summary.
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>>6306094
my toes are disgusting famalam

>>6306101
i think i need a lobotomy
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>>6306066
Yeah, but hysteria fell out of fashion for some reason...
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>>6306075
have you read any of the letters so far?
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>>6306088
Hello anon
>>6306106
Iktf. I actually hate women
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>>6306075
So I know now that my birth mother is religious, and cares a lot. This bothers me more and more over time because there are so many questions I want to ask? Who was my father, why isn't he mentioned, what's my family history etc...
But that's not the real problem. See I begun to do the most stupid thing I could have.

I began to ask: "What if I wasn't adopted".

Well, the conclusions are as follows. I wouldn't be who I am today. For better and worse. I wouldn't know any of the skills that I do, I wouldn't have the same interests, I wouldn't have my colourful past. I'd be someone completely different.
Normally this terrifies me. I don't want to be someone else, I want to be me, just better.

Yeah. No. I wanted to know more. So I started asking questions,

I'm not smart. At all.
They were not fun answers.

Firstly, my blood parents are separated, and I think by father is back in Germany

Secondly I have 3 half siblings.
2 younger brothers and a younger sister.
And each and every one of them prays for me each night. These three wonderful people, who know nothing about me other than I'm related to them, pray for me. They don't know that I'm completely insane, they don't know my past, and they don't know that I'm a fucking degenerate. But they care anyway.

Why... Why was I separated from these people, who are clearly so much better than my family? why was I cursed to become someone so much worse that I could be? Why do I have to put up with a mother who is actually fucking evil, a father who couldn't care less about me, and a brother who's sociopathic instead of 3 people who I could be so much closer to?
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>>6306107
>i think i need a lobotomy
iktf
I want to be left in an asylum somewhere sedated up to my eyeballs
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>>6306081
>tfw sissy personality disorder
>>6306083
it's not a mental disorder by default though, the only reason it should be classified as such is because of gatekeeping, and anti trans people seeking to hurt you and keep you from what could be a peaceful and happy transition.

If we could just chose, it'd be as much a mental disorder as being gay.

this is why the world health organization is going to remove the disability wording from it
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>>6306116
>Iktf. I actually hate women
I wouldnt say all but most, I've met one girl that was decent but thats about it. In this day and age girls like her are like unicorns.
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>>6306120
grass always greener, you don't really know how it would had been.
twins adopted by different families tend to be become more similar to each other than to their respective families.
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>>6306075
haha wow that really is fucked up, that's kind of withholding-information-for-power shit my dad does
fucking shit

>>6306083
same, idgi, I think it's mostly internalised mental health stigma
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>>6306124
that's better :3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ
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>>6306120
ehhh as terrible as your adoptive parents sound, do you know how your birth family would have reacted to you being trans given they're religious?

>>6306123
kek same
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>>6306090
>>WHY IS EVERYTHING ABOUT ME SO BAD AND GROSS
iktf.
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What are your thoughts on /repression general/?
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>>6306116
want some fuck?
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>>6306146
next generation of hons
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>>6306133
I want to fuck these korean qts
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>>6306120
The 'what if' way of thinking is only torture and you have to remember that how a person presents themselves through occasional correspondence can leave out the darker details of their lives. Who knows what wasn't mentioned, you know what I mean?

Things are confirmed to be bad now, they could have been better its true but they also could have been far worse and it's impossible to know.

The only thing we can work with are absolutes and trying to make the best and improve our current situations. I'm sorry, its not really a colourful way to look at it <3. I do hope you make an opportunity to meet this family to answer your questions though
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>>6306144
i m s h i t

just kill me tbqh
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>>6306113
>have you read any of the letters so far?
I got through the first three, but they hurt too much.

>>6306120
Well, that's not all. I'm 20 now. I could meet them. I could ask to meet my birth mother, and get in contact with them... I could but I'm afraid. I don't want to burden them with my insanity, my sin. I don't deserve them. I don't want them to know who I want to become. Because I don't want to ruin their image of me. I'm terrified of disappointing people I never knew.

Only, I do know my birth mother. She broke the law, and came to see me when I was 5. I barely recall it, but it happened. I was with my child minder when this pretty woman came over, and talked to me for a little bit. Before she left she asked to hug me (I was 5 so of course I did it) but I noticed she was crying afterwards. I found out a few months ago that that was her from my childminder (who I still visit every now and then)

I think I want to get to know them before the effects of HRT become obvious...
But I'm still scared.

So yeah.
I'm miserable, and sad and angry because I want 2 brothers to go to when I'm sad, and know that they'll care.
I want a sister because she could teach me how to girl, and be able to support me.

I want my real mom because damn if she doesn't care about me more than my adoptive one.

I want to change everything.
And I also don't. Because I am who I am. And changing that is... wrong. I'm proud to work with the hand I've been dealt. But it doesn't make it easier.

>>6306129
>grass always greener,
Perhaps... But it's hard not to think that way.

>>6306141
>do you know how your birth family would have reacted to you being trans given they're religious?
Surprisingly, I think I do. The christian movement in Ireland is surprisingly tolerant, particularly in the midlands where they live. I'm not above doing my own sleuthing, so I know from her google circles page and from her linked in that she's worked with the LGBT community in Ireland as a volunteer.
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>>6306155
t. neckbeard
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>>6306161
ur NOT SHIT
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>>6306163
i want to fuck you rawr.
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>>6306155
you totally can, but first you have to murder me and then they'll be super duper impressed and all want to have sex with you
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>>6306158
>The 'what if' way of thinking is only torture
I said I was stupid didn't I?

You're right though. I'm happy to work with what I've got. It's just hard not to speculate, and hate what I have do go through.
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>>6306050
>>6306066
>>6306112

>TFW my self diagnosed mental illness gets dismissed as old timey hysteria 2.0 which was cured with industrial era vibrators.

It's not though, looking at the characteristics is like reading a book on who I am.
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>>6306166
t. creepy faggoo neckbeard
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>>6306083
it's a mental illness caused by congenital neurological defect that gets switched on through epigenetics and life experience. like being gay, or schizophrenia.

>>6306123
mtfg edit, 12 hours in ms paint
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>>6306173
you say that when my dick is deep inside in you. I'd love to give you a good creampie
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>go to see psychiatrist to get my mental illness diagnosis
>first thing she asks me is what my pronouns are
>turn 360 degrees and walk away
fucking tumblr
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>>6306174
nice
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>>6306182
>turn 360 degrees
You turned full circle and walked towards her to get to the door?
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>>6306177
faggot.
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please don't meme this poll i want to know

http://www.strawpoll.me/10373861
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>>6306186
don't be so fucking tsundere

I'd hold you down and force my dick in you if I have to.
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>>6306188
I picked Cleveland Cavaliers.
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>Tfw notice hairs grown have on the knuckles of my toes and feet

Oh testosterone you are a mysterious master
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>>6306182
>>6306185
Basic geometry could save your life. learn it
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>>6306188
>tfw considered mentally ill

I can still normie though
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>>6306192
e-everyone doesn't have this?
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>>6306190
kys asap neckbeard

go back to r/mensrights or whatever shithole your creepy fat ass came from
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>>6306185
>>6306195
>being this new
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>>6306193
I don't think anyone in mtfg would be able to look half as good as your webm.

+ everyone would look autistic as fuck.
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>>6306202
Oh I'm sorry, are you saying that it's a meme? that it's being said ironically?

Because I still don't care.
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>>6306201
where you live?
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>tfw qt girl not answering me on skype
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>>6306198
Well. I'm only here to soothe a mental dysphoria. I've resigned myself from physical change and don't want to try.
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4chan Best of Traps and Trannies list

>Top Tier - Literally perfect - 9/10 or 10/10
adri
beepbeep
clarissa
edie
frog
linetrap
kuronenko
matty
phienchen
pizza
sage
samsa
sophie
ufufu
>Great Tier - Passes and/or is hot as a trap - 7/10 or 8/10
abby
alice
basic
caddy
charlotte
cornflakes
edie
elanna
hannah
isla
moap
nikky/ffsanon
haato
jormy
marina
red
titchbits
>Average Tier - Making progress/looks okay for a trap - 5/10 or 6/10
!!flannel6gy
anna
bexe
cheska
cricket
e
kiwi
gem
grace
kari
maddie/pizzaslut
mado
moko
muff
pan
plant
rawr
samantha
sparky
yume
>Below Average - Does not pass and does not look good as a trap - 3/10 or 4/10
amyvictoria
angie
cfh
circe
cyba
grey
faye
lalalily
oddish
pleb
vivi
>Shit tier - 2/10 and below
kayla
korra
jocelyn
robin/olrapeyface/edgar
sheen
valq

if you didn't make the list I do not know what you look like
if anyone in the top two tiers is here pls be my wife
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>>6306203
Yeah trannies and swimsuits are not a good combo.
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>>6306208
tfw qt girl is ur qt gf
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>>6306169
It's okay, i mean it's a lot to take in and I'm no expert or sage. I fall into the trap a lot myself, we're all imperfect beings in that way.

<3 I hope you do manage to work through your feelings and be successful regardless of the hardships. You're my favourite on here
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Okay so
>be without a bra for over an hour
>perky boobs turn into cow tits
>like some of the mass slides into the aereola or stuff and it gets super puffy and weird

Why? Am i the only one?
Is there a fix, aaagh
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>>6306201
Be quiet mr gremlin
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>>6306211
>ywn make it out of shit tier
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>>6306211
twat
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>>6306193
i have the same body type with the hips and butt but i have tiny boobs and i dance like a stiff automaton but sure i'll put on a bikini and spazz around on the beach if it'll make other people feel bad about themselves because i'm a piece of shit

>>6306216
nah senpai thats me, wearing a bra kills my boobs. pushup bras are basically binders that give you fake tits
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>>6306219
>tfw actually belong in shit tier
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>>6306193
>Get invitation to beach
>Imagine yummy drinks and lazily lounging around the beach with big sun hats
>See it involves learning intricate chinese cartoon choreography without proper sun protection and going inside underwater aquariums and preforming while in bikinis.

Um, no thanks. I prefer my fantasy, tho.
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>>6306215
>You're my favourite on here
...
Hell knows how that happened.
Thanks though. I hope to work through it too. I'm just not sure how I'm going to go about it. I'm messed up enough as it is.
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tfw you just want to be with her more than anything else
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>>6306226
who
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>>6306217
She's such a cute gremlin.
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tfw mental illness prevents you from seeing your gf

tfw this feel
>>6306226
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>>6306228
my gf
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>>6306216
>>6306221
saggy tits are genetical.
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>>6306221
Shud we avoid pushup bra then or is that even the cause?
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>>6306224
You know you want to dance.
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>>6306232
cool
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>>6306211
>angie
I'm average tbqh
But thanks chaser :)
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>>6306211
gif of anon inputing data to come up with his autistic tier list.
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>>6306198
I do although it's decreased on my hands w/ hrt

>tfw barely any hair on my arms naturally
>tfw hairy as fuck hands
what the FUCK
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>tfw having massive panic attacks but go out anyways because of some very important things that I need to get done
>Along the way roommate decides to open bank account and I'm standing in the grocery store having panic attacks for an hour and a half

>>6306231
>tfw literally waiting to go to a psychiatric ward right now
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>>6306226
>>6306214
>>6306208
>>6306155
Straight males fetishists aka transbians go and stay go
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>>6306211
>tfw never in the lists
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>>6306235
they're fine desu, your bra might not fit right. my excuse is i got fat and need new bras. braless days where i don't need to go out are the best
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>>6306242
Accurate.
>>6306252
Give me a picture and I'll add you in kindly. :)
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>>6306236
Don't stop
(don't stop)
don't stop the beat!
Can't stop
(can't stop)
can't stop the beat!
I Won't stop
(won't stop)
won't stop the beat,
and go!
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>>6306244
my arms, hands, feet, ears, nose, thighs are all hairy ._.
everything else has either died off or been lasered off or I'm trying to get rid of it or I'm okay with it because women also get hair on their legs
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>>6306211
>cyba
>faye
>lalality
>oddish
>amyvictoria
>below average
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Right, well, now that I've ranted and complained, It's time for bed...


I might add that to storytime tomorrow.

Night everyone!
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>>6306246
You just keep getting more insane by the day. I wont be surprised if you murder someone soon. I can just feel it. Probably murder/suicide.
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>>6306226
Bluh that's a feel
Also
>tfw have to ride my fucking bike all the way to Wendys because they charged me twice like a band of idiots and their phone isn't working right now
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>>6306266
nini!
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>>6306263
Have you even seen lalaLarry
Dude looks fucking disgusting
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>>6306254
>Give me a picture and I'll add you in kindly. :)
I'm in either of the bottom 2 tiers and I don't really need to know which one so going to have to pass on your offer for now, thanks. Maybe you'll see me around sometime later when I practice makeup and have to ask here how bad I'm fucking it up?
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>>6306075
>19 of them.
god that's shitty...

>>6306211
>7-8/10
dafaq

>>6306104
yeah... sorry for freaking out. Maybe I just find self-depricative humor too sad to actually consider it a coping mechanism.

>>6306120
Don't ask yourself "what if". There's an infinite number of real possibilities and they're not worth considering because it could be infinitely better or infinitely worse. You could potentially have never been given the chance of existence, because your real grandfather died in a war before he could conceive you. It's not worth your time to sit there and ponder the possibilities.

Do you know why you were adopted?
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>>6306225
I think people are often more resilient than they give themselves credit for. Good luck, if I had advice id give it but I really don't know :[
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>>6306211
Why do the autistic people who makes these lists always have the completely wrong and worst taste?
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>>6306269
>You just keep getting more insane by the day.
yeah that's generally what happends to everyone when they can't get any help
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>>6306282
You need professional help. You've needed it for years. Just make sure you murder an evil person when you do so you wont be a complete psycho twat.
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>>6306211
seriously, where are you coming up with these numbers for me? I'm pre-hrt - is this just a prediction of how attractive I'll be?
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>>6306271
*Nods sleepily*]

>>6306280
I'm a pretty tough cookie... I just wish I didn't have to be. I wish no-one here had to be.

>>6306278
>Do you know why you were adopted?
Heh... one last question then

My mother wasn't able to support me.
Basically being a single mother and a student would probably not have worked.
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>>6306281
Because they use a rating system of stats and +1s unknown to everyone that only make sense in their autism
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>>6306211
tfw not important enough to make the list
r i p : ' (
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>>6306287
I've been in shitty situations where I can't get actual help for years now, and I've devolved to the point where I am literally disabled and need to go to a psychiatric ward since my fucktard mom took me to a cheap fake therapist so I was never able to get any of my shit diagnosed.
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>>6306263
I agree about faye and amy but everyone else needs ffs
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>>6306289
;~;
I want to ask more about law and relationships and limitations, partially because I'm a nosy cunt and partially because I believe that talking about it will help you make your decisions,
but I won't ask more if you're too tired to answer.
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>>6306273
I dislike aspects of her personality but she passes as a tomboy honestly
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>>6306263
Yes, I'm serious.
>>6306298
Hahahah you're on fire my main man

cyba is androgynous in an ugly way imo
faye has a nice body but has the face of a 30 year old man, im not really into dudes
lalalily looks like a russian dude in middle school
oddish is not remotely attractive as either gender
amyvictoria is simply not attractive
>>6306276
I would be glad to tell you how you are doing at any time I see your picture. No hugboxing and I'll try to lay it down as nicely as possible just for you.
>>6306281
>autistic
That's a nice buzzword there you're using to make your opinion seem correct
>>6306288
I wonder if I'm getting you mixed up with someone else. I'm sure you'll be cute though.
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>>6306300
I'll talk more tomorrow. I intend to be up before 11am GMT if you're still up, so remind me if I forget. I can see how adoption law would be of interest.

Night everyone!
Again!
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>>6306282
iktf ;-;
I don't want to be put in a ward, having my freedom of movement constricted makes me freak the fuck out
sometimes when I'm staying w/ my parents they lock me in when they go out and I can't climb through the windows because dyspraxia and I get panicky, thinking about being institutionalised makes me feel sick
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>>6306291
Give me a picture and I'll add you :)
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>>6306303
>its my first day on 4chan the post
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im like shaking right now cause im flying back home tomorrow and im gonna tell my parents im on hrt.

its not like theyre not supportive.. and they already know im trans... idk why im so scared

i'll never pass cause no matter what i look like, i'll always lack the confidence necessary to jus b myself
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>>6306303
>I would be glad to tell you how you are doing at any time I see your picture. No hugboxing and I'll try to lay it down as nicely as possible just for you.
That sounds like it's being said with a forked tongue. If you want to add me on steam, skype or discord or something that's fine, I just don't feel like posting anything publicly rn. Not that I really need a 2nd opinion, I know I'm doing really fucking shit, passgen and my own eyes confirm this very much, and the fact that I still got no makeup nor fem clothes after a year of this wild ride...

Yeah I'm doing shit, thanks for the offer anyways anon.
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>>6306307
>lock you in
they have a lock on the outside of the door? the fuck
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>>6306303
It's creepy you are like this, sir
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>>6306312
https://unsee.cc
/nozesuma/
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You do all realize its Faye who made that tier list right?
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>>6306303
There's a chance you know what I look like.
I posted 2 pics here, total - I got bullied a lot, but not for anything specific (nose, chin, jaw, brow, are all apparently not a big deal), which gives me hope.

>I'm sure you'll be cute though
I've heard this before desu, and I don't wanna believe it because it would mean I have no reason to avoid transitioning.
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>>6306303
with me is it just the weight or is also the fact I'm an old man?
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>>6306317
Good luck grey, I hope it goes well for you
>>
my gf claims she loves me but it never feels like it
how do I know she isn't lying to me
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>>6306317
>thats fine dear, we're having meatloaf for dinner
good luck <3
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>>6306301
If by tomboy you mean looks like a teenage gay guy with gyno and tumblr hair then yeah
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>>6306333
you pass way better than me desu
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>>6306333
Holy shit you are ugly as fucking sin.
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>>6306318
>>6306321
I'm just being blunt. My apologies.
>>6306325
Pretty cute. How long have you been on hormones? I'm not sure from just one picture but you look somewhere a 5/10 to a 7/10 on it, which is good if you are just starting hormones.
>>6306326
Hahaha no, I'm glad I'm not her.
>>6306327
I guess I don't recall if you aren't the same one. I'll drop by in the future and see your progress though if you would like.
>>6306333
It looks like you looked like a man before you transitioned... I guess?
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>>6306345
no I don't

>>6306346
I know

>>6306354
as I thought
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>>6306354
I'm not Charlotte's Web of Lies, if you're wondering.
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>>6306364
;)

p cute senpai
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>>6306360
ya you do

this was taken like a week before i left
i look even grosser rn desu
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>>6306346
why would sin be ugly? sin is meant to be tempting. show me someone beautiful and passing but empty and corrupt and you'll have sin.

sheen is homely virtue.
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>>6306360
sheen just become an artist or some shit at that point looks will be fuck all if you've just fallen in the attraction pitfall of society's dogma

instead of trying to climb ur way out just make that pit a fucking utopia MAKE THEM WANT TO COME TO YOU thats how its always been done bb
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>tfw you love your gf but youre scared to tell her
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>>6306295
>literally disabled
>panic attacks
Nice meme
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>>6306369
Boys boys.

Your both ugly!
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>>6306366
>p cute senpai
I-I don't know what you mean by that
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>>6306369
rawr you're so good at trolling or you have such a skewed since of how you look I can't really tell but that picture is 10/10 on multiple regards ty for the laughs and being adorable
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>>6306374
>hierarchy of mental illness
what
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>>6306326
If it was Faye, I'd be in the sissy tier with kayla...probably
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>>6306374
wheres gd/gid, below the scales?
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>>6306369
you look like someone's maiden aunt, like you're attractive but you know in 30 years time you'll still be a virgin, unkempt, owning too many cats, smelling of stale pinot grigio, the bible, piss and regret
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>>6306372
but I'm good at literally nothing
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>>6306211
you need to bump me down senpai.
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>>6306384
Is that even a question?
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>>6306369
You're pretty cute there and you have a nice jaw, no hugboxing. I'm almost want to bump you up a tier senpai.
>>6306377
Maybe it means I like you ;)

I'll knock it off now.
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>>6306374
>tfw in better than normie-tier because self-diagnosed stuff doesn't count
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>>6306334
>>6306340
thanx f a m

i had surgery on my chest since last time i was home. i know for a fact the first thing my mom is gonna say is "how are the scars healing? let me see!"

then boom. cone tit city
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