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> tfw female-to-males will always pass better than male-to-females
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> tfw female-to-males will always pass better than male-to-females

Fuck you, Nature; fuck you, God; you're all cruel pricks. Better hope I get to Heaven late.
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>>6299178
Go fuck yourself, kiddo.
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>>6299178
Women have an easier time in near every aspect of life minus a few which they bitch about constantly, what's new.
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>>6299189
SRS in general is pointless. MtF neovags being any good is just a meme spread by surgeons that make loads of money off of it and the idiots that took the bait.
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>>6299178
At fist I get sad, but then I remember that all this passing bullshit is just an artifact of the patriarchy for the objectification of women.

I still want to be a beautidul woman, though.
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>>6299305
>non-op thinks she knows more about results than post-op girls
Also I encourage you to read more recent studies. I think it's like 95-100% are satisfied with surgery and can orgasm.
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>>6299321
studies based entirely off self-reporting

can you not see the problem here?

people report that they are satisfied and orgasmic even if they are, not because their self confidence and self esteem is completely tied into their surgery being "successful". they spend so long building it up as the end-point of their "journey", that admitting that they are unsatisfied with the results would completely destroy them and their worldview. so they lie on surveys, and keep deluding themselves. until they can't take it anymore, and simply kill themselves.

a post-op is the worst person to ask about srs. they will never admit they fucked up and have disgusting, butchered genitals.

srs is a meme.
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>>6299502
Do you have proof of anything you just said, apart from maybe a few botched procedures done 15+ years ago?
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>>6299508
do YOU have any proof other than self-reported studies, marketing for expensive surgeons and wishful thinking?
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>>6299321
100% could be satisfied with it for all I care. That doesn't mean they look good or look real. The only thing you need to judge an SRS pussy is a pair of eyes. I have seen hundreds, I have even had sex with someone who had one.

Protip: it wasn't the same as the real thing.
It never is.
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>>6299519

But is it still good?
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>>6299531
Yeah, warm wet hole feels good on the dick for sure.
Didn't have the depth I'd have liked though, granted I typically run into cis girls cervixes, still she couldn't take as much cock as the real deal.
Would rate anal above it aside from the shit factor.

Oh also, that trans girl was the only girl I couldn't make orgasm.

I mean it can work but don't delude yourself into thinking it's the same as the real thing. It isnt.
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>>6299516
>>6299519
If you won't take anything else, reddit.com/r/manmadepussy shows some and they seem okay to me.

Maybe you have confirmation bias? Perhaps you couldn't pick the trans vag out of a group of pictures but hold your partners to a certain standard. There are plenty of cases of people hooking up with post op tgirls who still come out thinking they're cis.
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>>6299178

Everybodys favorite repressed ftm, Dirt, claims that synthetic testosterone ages ftm, way faster than natural testosterone ages cismen. Don't know if thats really true, could just be broscience. If it is true then rejoice bitter mtf, for nature will have the last laugh.
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>>6299552

Unfortunately, I actually have the real thing. :/ I was just curious.
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>>6299563
It's bullshit. Synthetic testosterone is bioidentical, the body literally cannot tell the difference and treats it the same.
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>>6299575
Don't feel bad, what really matters is that you like it. Do you prefer it to your old setup?
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>>6299305
>salty non-op complains about post-ops memeing by using the frankengina meme
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>>6299178
Is that you david tenant
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>>6299563
FtMs look a lot more youthful to cis men, that sounds like complete bullshit
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>>6299603
I'm FTM you idiot. I don't like cis women or trans women, though, so IDK WTF trans women vaginas are like.
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>>6299189
Not that it matters.

Butch lesbians/tomboys and pre-op mtfs have around the same amount of sex appeal.

Ftms and post-op neovag mtfs have the same amount of sex appeal.

Mtfs either have to submit to ftm levels of sexual appeal by getting srs or off themselves from dysphoria
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>>6299618

Theres also anti-srs memes that come from TERFs. In fact I wonder if a huge amount of the anti-srs paranoia is primarily from TERFs.

>TERFs
>whine and cry about trannies not getting their penises inverted
>whine and cry about trannies getting their penises inverted
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Yeah tall masculine featured women transition FTM well
Just like short feminine featured men transition MTF well
Tall Leno-chinned big nosed men transition just as bad as short curvy feminine faced men
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>>6299178
>broad shoulders for on cis fem
how often do you see that
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>>6299950
He's a trans male, not a cis female though. It's possible he got on T pretty young.
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>>6299285
>loads of money
>tiny part of population
>sugons make you wait
>less than FFS
>surgeon can make more off a few boob jobs

This whole doctors making money off trans meme is getting a little old
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>>6299305
It honestly just gets tiresome having a penis. Getting rid of it at least gets it out of the way of being annoying.
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>>6299950
he's also 6'2 i think
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>>6299178
Testosterone is god

Estrogen is weak.

Stay mad tranny. Shoulda embraced the superior hormone
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>>6299178
>Fuck you, Nature; fuck you, God; you're all cruel pricks.
Literally, every fucking tranny.
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>>6299552
>bad at sex
>it was the neo-vagina's fault
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>>6299178

He looks pretty cute after, senpai. His pecs could be bigger though.
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>>6299975
What's up Dr. Shill?
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>>6300661
>Literally, every fucking tranny.
Literally every fucking retard.
Why you people are so retarded?
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Don't feel too bad. Fat, awkward pre-everything trans guy here. The last time I came close to passing was before I gained weight.

There are plenty of laughable, non-passing ftms. Cheer up.
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>>6301199
go lose some weight, pls?
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>>6301237

Develop an anti-psychotic that doesn't have weight gain as a major side effect, and we'll talk.
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>>6299975
Yeah man its obvious the doctors perform SRS for free.
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>>6299552
>I typically run into cis girls cervixes,
>that trans girl was the only girl I couldn't make orgasm.
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FTM are the best I think

It's having the best of both worlds


A Nice pussy to fuck, and beauitful male aesthetics

I would marry a ftm
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>>6301280

http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/004646.html

Thanks, you've changed my life. Years of scientific study can't possibly contend with the opinion of a random anon.

The link between anti-psychotics and weight gain is well documented, to the point that it's one of the first things they tell you when they put you on the medication. I've never been fat before this, so I think I'll trust my doctors on it.
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>>6301359
But the majority of FTMs are not going to let you fuck them vaginally.
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>>6301386
Then what's the point?
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>>6301386
even better

tight asshole are god tier for gay men, but women just are better twinks than twinks.
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>>6301382
Why do you need those anti-psychotics, again?
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>>6301386
Gay FTMs?
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>>6301399

What part of "alters the center of your brain responsible for weight control" can't you understand?

Honestly, given the fact that I have a mental disorder that causes paranoia and delusions of persecution, we shouldn't even be talking.

Take care.
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>>6301418
transwomen and femboys are such attention whores jfc lol
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>>6301477
>What part of "alters the center of your brain responsible for weight control" can't you understand?

Wow so it's the same thing every obese person on the planet has had happen to them through habitual overeating. Take your meds and see a dietician you dingbat.
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>>6299552
>granted I typically run into cis girls cervixes
loool. keep talking it up, dude
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>>6300812
I think they were making fun of your delusional imagined sexual prowess
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>>6301778
>Sometimes I'd hit it too hard with one of my exes and she wouldn't be able to have sex again for the rest of the day because my pounding had her in pain from hitting her cervix too much and too hard.
You sound like a really competent partner I'm sure NONE of those "orgasms" were fake
>take a peak
Will do I always wanted to carry a mountain
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>>6299562
>reddit.com/r/manmadepussy
Jesus Christ this makes me want to puke.
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>>6301839
>Spelling letters like Z and S in just the right way
Meme-tier sex advice desu
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>>6301867
ok we get it you are a sex god. What are your thoughts on spelling a letter Q. where the O circles around the clitoris and the little line is like a flick towards the clit at the end. You seem knowledgeable so I figured Id ask.
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>>6301279
in canada they do rolf
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>>6300661
so with that mentality

>braces
>tattoos
>treatable birth defects
>treatable lazy eyes

etc.. the list is endless

is all a "fuck you im blind and there is a fix but god and nature wanted me this way"

I know this is b8, but god damn.
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>>6299552
Hey, I'm a guy who's actually been with a lot of women (and men), and I can tell you haven't.

You just claimed you've made every girl you've slept with cum, through penetration no less. If you weren't trolling or lying, you'd know that a pretty sizeable portion of women simply can't orgasm, and an even larger portion can't orgasm through penetration.
Any guy who's been around knows you can't win 'em all. You either haven't been with a lot of women, they faked it, or you're a troll.
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>>6299178
>female-to-males will always pass

except for the not having a dick part
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>>6299178
>> tfw female-to-males will always pass better than male-to-females
Debatable
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>>6302638
>those bony muscular man shoulders
I'll give him a 3/10
he should gain more weight
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>>6302582
Passing is being perceived as the target gender by the average stranger Unless you live in a nudist camp, a dick is not necessary just to pass.
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>>6302638
if this were mtfg? there wouldn't be much debate
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>>6302660
>muscular man shoulders
>3/10
Either you're salty or delusional senpai
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>>6302660
>this
>muscular
Just kill yourself
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>>6302660
>he should gain more weight
you sound like a fatty desu. stop telling people how to eat because of your own insecurities.
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>>6302564
>implying I did nothing but penetrate while penetrating
Fiddling her junk a little while you fuck her isn't gonna work wonders. And this:
>A pretty sizeable portion of women don't know how to make themselves orgasm and a sizeable portion of men don't know how to make them orgasm either.
...sentence doesn't change that. Yeah, sure, some women and even men can't get themselves to orgasm, but that doesn't undo the group that literally can't.

>There is another possibility: you fucking suck at dicking girls bro.
Yes, me and all the men I know that sleep around and agree that you can't make every girl cum are all bad in bed. That's a lot more plausible than you being the God of orgasms or chicks faking it. Probably to stop you from ruining the sex with your bullshit.

>Judging from the fact that you assume penetrative sex takes place in isolation
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>even though every single real vagina I've dealt with has been given orgasms by me, both with tongue and penis.
>penis
Not fingers and penis.

>Hard to fake the spasms and shakes properly :DDD
Because all girls spasm and shake when they orgasm.
>Spelling letters
Troll.
>the letters that work the best out of it
Every pussy is different, there is no best option. You're describing sex with one, maybe two girlfriends.

And if you pound away at someone's cervix you're just bad at sex.
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>>6302638
>>6302660
I'm cis female and my shoulders are like that, possibly even a bit wider
>surprised that no tumblrina has asked what my pronouns are :)
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>>6299189
MUH GENITALS is just a bunch of bullshit.
Most transexuals dont fucking like their genitals but its not some horrible nightmare except for a few cases here and there. The rest of us would gladly take 99.99999% of all daily scenarios being able to pass flawlessly and just deal with the tiny amount of time our genitals are actually involved.

Oh man I pass flawlessly as a 7 and above male or look like someones angry little brother oh woe is me.

versus

YOU ALWAYS WILL LOOK LIKE A FREAK to I guess hes cute for a twink.

>>6302638
Asian mtfs are an exception, especially if they are tiny build like this person is. Either having a tiny build or being asian rules you out as you can easily be either gender being that your entire gender identity is based on your clothing, style, voice, and mannerisms. His boy mode is easily made into a lesbian dyke look with a few minor tweaks. All hormones do in a person like this is remove most their masculine features and they have primarily feminine features and no longer look like a dyke but a regular woman.
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>>6302909
I honestly dont get the whole thing they have about 'so you dont offend/misgender anyone you should ask them what their pronouns are', like how is that not more offensive to trans people or going to upset them by making them think they dont pass? Hate to sound like one of those old people who say shit like 'its health and safety gone mad!', but this is social justice gone mad. So autistic
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>>6302891
>I'm a cis female
how feminine is your penis?
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>>6302945
So feminine that it inverted itself into a vaginé before i was born. Or maybe i just have a masculine vagina...

>I am actually a bio-grill though
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>>6302967
oh yeah baby let me lick that hot muscular man vagina
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>>6302908
>I'm okay with my genitals therefore everyone else is

Project much?
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>>6299178
this guy passes exceptionally well for an ftm tho, i mean, he's like 6' with broad shoulders and shit, that's very rare
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>>6300661
>god


gtfo with you delusions
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>>6303692
>broad shoulders
Literally where?
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>>6302450
>go through full alphabet once

please don't do this. i'm annoyed just thinking about it
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>>6302582
>except for the not having a dick part

that's not what passing is
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>>6302868
>Because all girls spasm and shake when they orgasm.

they do. the contractions always cause that. lmao she faked you out
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>>6299178
oops stumbled upon another fag
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>>6303840
for a female
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>>6299178
At least the Testosterone gives them cancer in return.
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>>6304994
Only if they keep the femmy bits
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Women have it easier at everything, even being men.
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>>6305074
You try having insurance cover/socialized health approve removing 'femmy bits' for someone with an M sex/gender marker, and putting in a potentially life threatening mesh to keep your innards in place.
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>>6304994
No it doesn't.
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>>6305129
A tranvaginal mesh is only needed in cases where the hysterectomy is being preformed to correct pelvic organ proplase, especially if it's uterine prolapse. It's not something done for a voluntary hysterectomy.
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>>6302868
you're feeding the troll

every sexually-active hetero in this thread (hi guys) caught a whiff of his bullshit when he claimed he's only ever fucked one person who didn't orgasm.

too bad he's right about surgical vaginas - they are not the same and will never look, feel, behave, or smell the same as a bona fide self lubricating vagina
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>>6305213
>or smell the same
Thank god
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>>6305252
Vaggys smell good as long as the girl avoid eaten fish and garlic.
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>>6305271
That's not how it works you virgin.
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>>6305301
>you can't fake lubrication
Lubrication =/= Orgasm
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>>6305301
>You can't fake lubrication production
That's an automated process, any stimulation, even unwanted, will eventually cause lubrication in most women. Same goes for erections in men.

>How fucking hard is it to believe that I fucked 7 girls
>7
That explains. You just got a lucky batch then.
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>>6305389
That's called squirting you damn virgin. Now all 7 of them squirted? Alls you need is a foreign object in the vag for it to lubricate, does not mean they came.
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>>6305389
Naw, I assumed you meant you had sex with a large number of girls. I'll believe you made 7 orgasm, I just don't understand how that makes you so cocky. You just got lucky all of them were capable.
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>>6305129
This is the second time I've seen someone on this board say FtMs need pelvic meshes after hysterectomy. We don't.
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Seriously, where are the FTMs? I can't find any.
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>>6306713
Cause most of us are stealth in real life
Also when in doubt, go grab crotches in neckbeard flocks, chances are you'll find one
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>>6306731
Chances you won't. Stop inflating the numbers.
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>>6306758
Statistically you're more likely to find a FtM in a flock of neckbeards than in a group of normies though
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>>6299178
>post tall, andro woman
>looks almost exactly the same in after pic, except beard
>"omg why is testosterone so op"

if youre gonna shit post can you at least try. or post in a general god damn tired of this thread every day
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>>6306786
Sure, but still not a high chance.
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>>6306803
No mate I was making a stupid joke cause a good chunk of us end up with the looks of a lardass Magic the Gathering player
Not a big number of trannies in general, not just FtMs
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>>6306713
Why do you want to find one?
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>>6306800
>britbong thinks all women look like men
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>>6306800
>>looks almost exactly the same in after pic, except beard

That's because its a pre-top surgery vs post-top surgery picture

Not a pre-test vs post-test transition photo
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>>6306800
>>6307173

this is the test picture
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>>6306830
Dating.
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>>6307639
where are you at

pls be socal
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>>6299178
You think ftms pass better, but it's really just that it's okay to be a ugly guy (most ftms are) and not okay to be a ugly girl when it comes to passing. Even ugly cis women aren't treated like human beings
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>>6307867
Actually a lot of ftm's make really cute guys especially their facial features which contain a mix of fem with masculine.
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>>6307998
this
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>>6307867
And Testosterone is a stronger hormone.
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>>6307998

and it all goes straight down the tube when you see their nasty chests, hips, and of course that festering gash
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>>6302868

someone is triggered
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>>6308061
Yes, bullshit is my trigger.
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>>6307998
90% of FTMs are fat ex-bull dykes. and I mean really fat. Nice Cherry picking,
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>>6308041
You shouldn't be so shallow anon, not everyone's a 10/10.
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>>6299178
i'd take a nice feminine dick over a frankencock any day
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>>6308099
>frankencock
lmao
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>>6307650
Nope, North-Central Valley :(
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>>6308041
you really can't even tell he has chest scars
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>>6308076
This has also been my personal experience. Very few of the FTMs I've met in real life weren't overweight and most of them were obese.
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>>6311461
Most of them have visible scars, and their pectorals look jacked up
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>>6311524
men do have higher obesity rates than women
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>>6299230
fuck off pal
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>>6313146

See I don't get this because men are supposed to have higher metabolisms due to more lean mass and T promotes muscle growth. In fact I thought E caused fat storage.
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>>6315994
This is true. Men also eat like pigs tho, and most have no clue about nutrition.
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>>6301816
>my dick so big guise my dick is huge so big i RUN STRAIT INTO GIRLS CERVIXESES cuz i'm like, so big
>FFFFFFU tranny scum cant take my BIG HUGE ENORMOUS DICK

lol do you really expect anyone to take seriously your clueless virgin and transphobic opinion?
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>>6307188

when i saw this pic it made me rage so much. someone willingly taking T to devolve into the atrocious male form? outrageous

then, tho, it dawned on me; if they felt the way I do, and they at last got what they desired, im totally and legit happy for them yeah
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>>6301271
stop taking your meds, that's what i did. life is a struggle but at least people don't think i'm a girl lmao
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