I fucking hate being a bi man
faggots only want sex and it's almost impossible to keep a stable relationship with them, they also think i'm just a straight in denial
Women think you're not masculine enough since you like cock as well (yet at least 70% of them claim to be bi curious or had homosexual experiences), they become super paranoid even with my male friends and think i'm gay in denial.
Speaking as a gay male, I would never have another relationship with a bi guy. At first I thought it was a stereotype that biscum cheat. Well I was proven wrong, and also saw it happen to other friends.
In short, don't tell anyone you're bi or get a bi chick and cuck one another
>>6245834
Protipp: just tell the women you get with that you're straight. Tell the men you get with that you're gay. Problems weren't.
t. professional bislut
>>6245834
There's basically no reason to tell anyone you're bi, ever.
>>6246810
Are you serious? I have bi pride, shitlord.
>>6245834
>I fucking hate being a bi man
>faggots only want sex and it's almost impossible to keep a stable relationship with them,
Top kek
>>6246912
it's true you fucking faggot. Why can't you resist a single week relationship without getting your ass drilled by someone else?
>>6249109
because bi men are a prime example monogamous relationships... breeder please
>>6249109
Gayscym cry about bis going to women, but try being in a relationship with some gayscum.
Eventually they'll tire of you and they want to find another dom top because you are boring now. They only establish relationships on lust and they never want to experiment sexually, everyone are just walking dildos or sex toys for gayscum. And once they are done with the toy they throw it aside for the next toy. Then they cry about being so alone.
>>6249331
>it's like a reverse thing
>>6245834
>gay in denial
You are this.
Just accept it.
>>6246723
this. you can always tell them the truth later. And if the relationship doesn't last long enough for that to be an issue then the problem is already gone before it even appeared.
>>6245834
Cuck them before they cuck you
>>6245834
why is the LGBT community so divided? I find it funny the fact that we cry about evil straight people oppressing us when there is much more hate inside the community itself.
>>6245834
Hey, I'd go out with a bi guy
But I'm super old fashioned, I mean I'm like one step down from "wait until marriage"
I just want a kind husband with 2.5 kids a dog and a white picket fence, is that too much to ask?
I remember when I was a kid, I wanted to be an astronaut, now I just wanna be normal
>>6245834
>Women think you're not masculine enough since you like cock as well (yet at least 70% of them claim to be bi curious or had homosexual experiences), they become super paranoid even with my male friends and think i'm gay in denial
Bi woman here, would never shit on a guy for being non-masculine just because he's bi. Hell, feminine guys are best, but simply liking the D doesn't make you feminine, it's the character and the way you look and act. Doesn't make you gay in denial, either, you're bi and that's all. Don't see why would they get paranoid, too - you chose them, and if you do want to go and cheat, them being jelly all the time won't stop you. And I know I'm no special here, many other women share these opinions,
What kind of fucked up women have you been with?
>>6251395
I don't know, I speak for experience and I noticed that men and women tend to react differently on this issue.
Some men find it intriguing to have a bi woman, on the other side I've seen that women get quite insecure knowing that their man likes dicks as well. Despite being bi I see my future with wife and kids, so I lean more towards women. I'll just shut up until I get enough intimacy and confidence with my partner.
>>6249287
I've never run a poll or a survey, but I have enough anecdotal examples to suggest to me that bisexuals are far better at committed relationships than gays.
All of the bisexuals I know are virgins, and those who are in relationships have only ever been in one relationship in their lives. Meanwhile, the vast majority of open gays (I know a minority who are decent, like the bis) I know are those "Age: Below 20, Single: Y, Virgin: N" scum.
Just because I boner over penises and vaginas, doesn't mean I need a different set of genitals every 5 seconds.
>>6252120
>Despite being bi I see my future with wife and kids
So just say you're straight your gonna end up with a woman anyway sure you gonna suck some dick at gas station now and then but she doesn't have to know eh?
I always figured bi's should just date other bi's.
I'm gay, but I don't think I'd date a bisexual, it would feel too weird knowing they were also attracted to women. So yeah, I do basically just use bi's as fuckbuddies I suppose, but I didn't think it was a big deal since if they wanted to date they would probably feel more comfortable with another bisexual.
>>6252399
Bis generally don't date other bis
>>6252399
You know there aren't that many of us for that to be a thing.
>>6252298
>I've never run a poll or a survey, but I have enough anecdotal examples to suggest to me that bisexuals are far better at committed relationships than gays.
All the same-sex hook up apps and anonymous sex websites are just crawling with married bi guys Heck you even are the majority in the this places.
Yeah sure gay men are not the best at staying in a relationship( kek that an understatement) but when you of a sudden trying to get to the moral high grounds it just comical how got their wives HIV during the late 80? must be them nasy gays
>>6252453
I'd think the numbers would be roughly the same as it is for gays
>>6245834
im bi but i exclusively date women
almost impossible to find a dude to actually have a stable relationship, they all just wanna fuck and leave
>>6252560
Even if true that still rather disheartening
>>6253287
How so? I'd rather date someone that matches my orientation so I could have someone to talk to about it.
Personally as a gay guy I'd prefer not to have to deal with bi issues because I just can't relate to them, I just wouldn't even know how to help someone with it. I think bi's would be happier dating other bi's, just like how gays tend to prefer to date other gays over bi guys. Plus the relationship would probably be more stable if your orientations aligned.
>>6245834
>dating the guys
top kek OP, you're doing it wrong
>>6253317
Disheartening in the sense of raw numbers not in terms of capabilities. I'd love a bi bf but that's a long shot no matter how you cut it.
>>6245834
OP, just do what many bi guys do
Date men only for sex. Then when you're tired of dicks and hopefully you didn't get AIDS, settle down with a woman
>>6246810
True unless they think your het or gay when giving off the
>Implications
I'm a gay guy who just wants a genuine relationship
>>6245834
Gays don't want relationships with you because you bifags always get sick of the gay lifestyle and end up looking for a woman to have a "normal" life eventually. You don't see gay guys as genuine relationship material. Just an experience to get under your belt before you move onto your real life.
>>6253683
>Gays don't want relationships with you because you bifags always get sick of the gay lifestyle
Getting my ass drilled for the rest of my life is not really part of my plan
>>6252120
>Despite being bi I see my future with wife and kids, so I lean more towards women.
t. every bi-scum ever
gee, i wonder why gays don't want a serious ltr with you?
>>6252120
>>6253702
You couldn't imagine how fucking pissed I would be if someone I had spent years with and was genuinely in love with one day said to me "well, I guess this has to end now. see, I've always wanted a wife and kids in the long-term..."
Go fuck yourself and quit whining about how you can't find a gay dude to cuck
>>6245834
No no no you got it all wrong I'm the one gay guy who wants something real find me
>>6253702
Nothing wrong with that. Just don't bitch when gay guys dont want anything serious with you. Because your situation is true for around 90% of bi dudes.
>>6252120
This is the real reason gay guys don't take bi guys seriously. None of them are serious about wanting anything more than a quick fuck and if they are, they leave shortly down the road in search of a normal life with a girl.
You all are some serious shit heads.
>>6253761
I think thats because most of us think of having a family (genetic) before having sex. Plus, the family is like, the American dream. Have a good partner, see your kids go to college, retire and play golf all day or some shit. Raising kids as a gay couple feels odd, but, shit, idk.
>>6253720
And some gay guy leaving cause he's an unfaithful cock whore is gonna feel so much better? Way to cognative heuristics your own insecurities there.
>>6253756
How would gay guys even know you're bi unless you told them?
>>6253761
This is so true. Bi guys like to pretend they are less slutty than the typical gay guy, but this is all an almost womanly ruse to seem more civilized and respectable.
Every bi guy I've ever gotten with just wanted catch a quick nut and made no qualms about it.
Whenever you have dudes fucking other dudes you're going to have this patten of superficial casual sex. It's what you get when you have only cock and balls in the equation.
>>6253821
Personally I haven't met too many that try and hide it. Also if you use online dating it will be pretty obvious since their profile will be set to bisexual usually.
>>6252626
Then your straight lol.
>>6253683
True that!
>>6253841
I don't know man, I've made plenty of effort to actually go out of my way to ask guys on dates and try to build something beforehaving sex.
It doesn't work. Maybe I'm following a flawed concept here.
>>6253813
Wow.. there are different kinds of families. I'm gay and me and my husband have 1 adoptive son and 3 foster sons. I am living the "American dream". But since my family isn't "genetic" we don't count? No wonder gay guys won't date bi guys lol
>>6253816
Yes, actually.
>>6254108
Usually after a first quick check to make sure they're not an axe murderer I don't give a shit about sex.
Maybe some people wait, but I do generally want to get an idea of just how horrible a persons body is before really committing. My first dates are more a security check than a date haha
Boyfriend is a big stronk bi guy who I've been with for over 3 years. Neither of us really had many relationships beforehand so I'm not gonna speak for the majority, but he's perfectly fine.
He also lets me crossdress for him, shit is the best.
>>6245834
I'm the rare elusive gal OK with the idea of dating a bi guy. Bonus love if he's into sharing... we can have some fun times! Avoid anything girly girly as she won't "get you". Look for the actual nerds and tomboys for better results.
BI here, only been in gay relationships.
Not sure if I want to date a gay again, people complain about bi's cheating... But every gay I was in a relationship with eventually cheated on me. Then for the most part I'm only attracted to femboys and only dated them, turning 24 soon. It seems unrealistic to continue to try and date femboy twinks and fall in love before I'm no longer attracted. 9/10 men are not attractive at all to me, probably more like 99/100 or greater if I broaden the ages.
Then the other part, I sometimes wonder if I went gay because I was that desperate for love from anyone not having anyone family or friends, still don't have a facebook or anyone I consider close to me. So I accepted that my odds were best if I were to advertise myself as a twink being as small as I am to find love and I'd just date a really fem guy.
The conundrum I'm at now, is when I do get a gf, do I tell her my somewhat insane past of me turning myself gay, me being bi and then her being afraid I'm some cocklusting gay or do I just tell her what she'd want to hear, that I had former gf's or I'm a virgin.
>>6255011
Women cheat too.
Idk what it is but I think I have a low sex-drive, I could never imagine being so thirsty that I'd cheat. Jerking off works fine for me when BF and I don't feel like sex.
>>6255011
I'm not sure if I'm bi, my odds are like 1 out of 500 I'd fuck.
pic related but maybe its just tranny tier
>>6255028
I know that women cheat and I accept that.
But the ratio for women I find attractive opposed to male is more likely for me to find someone.
Then also enjoy there personality more opposed to looking for the few guys I'm attracted to. It just makes a lot more sense this way to me...
>>6255053
Maybe my number is higher than 1/500 I'd fuck then. Because that guy is decent looking I suppose but still too masc to me if it was a head on angle.
>>6255053
that guy is pretty meh
>>6255070
I'd fuck pic related, even though it's probably considered tranny tier. I guess maybe I like super fem fucking guys but I think I'm straight because I'll never find a guy that isnt a tranny that id want to fuck
>>6255103
don't think David is
>>6255103
My fucking point exactly. If I caught one of those fags before they went trans, I'd probably fuck them and thats as gay I go. So if I considered myself bi it's like by .00001%
>>6255113
Oh, you were talking about the one on the left?
Too masc for me
>>6255113
>>6255103
They're both clearly on at least antiandrogens.
t. femboy doing the same shit
Doesn't necessarily make them trans, I feel like a lot of people wind up calling themselves trans when in reality they are not. Trannies just like to suck up everyone into their stupid fucking identity and act like it's the only thing that exists outside of being cis. A lot of people get sucked into it when they probably would feel better as something inbetween, it's just society and trannies and such tell them they can't by acting like the inbetween shit is nonexistent.
>>6255141
don't those reduce your primary sex hormone? where did you obtain them?
femboys are the answer
there's a difference between "feminine" and "camp"
femboys have all the femininity and gentle softness and grace of girls with the tasty cock and bro-ness of guys, without the faggot-iness
they're like a girl you can actually relate to and have an emotionally equal and viable relationship with, absolutely GOAT
t. bi dude who has been dating exclusively femboys for 3 years now after discovering their magic
>>6255141
pls send help anon
>>6255278
That's all fine and dandy, but what happens when you become too old for them and they lose interest in you. What happens if you reach that age and you don't have the finances they are looking for and they find a different daddy.
That sounds like good times eventually coming to a screeching halt.
Plus femboys are only fem until 24, so you can't really have a longstanding relationship imo.
>>6255278
>not wanting dat faggot-iness in bed
>>6249287
At least we can settle down and have kids. You homos are just jelly of the master sexuality.
>>6252120
I'm a bi female and I'll give you some golden advice. Never ever and I mean EVER tell your wife you are bi. Even if she is bi. Even if she asks you. She will see you as less of a man for it and will feel insecure because she can't compete with men.
>>6254091
If you're attracted to men and women you're straight? If I fap to gay porn and only had sex with a man a few times I get to retain my straight card?
>>6254153
Gay fathers tend to molest their kids, stats show
>>6254927
Kys
>>6251247
>Hey, I'd go out with a bi guy
Ultra (literal) cuck mode
>>6255646
>You homos are just jelly of the master sexuality
Imagine being this delusional
>>6252626
Translation: I'm straight but I like some femboy boipussy every now and then when my girlfriend is out of town
>>6253661
Avoid biscum like plague then.
http://www.hivplusmag.com/prevention/2014/01/03/nyc-women-bisexual-partners-account-3-4-hiv-diagnoses
It's common sense to not date bisexual men if you're a woman desu.
>>6253813
But you just HAVE to identify as Bisexual and cuck a bunch of worthless faggots in meaningless sex based short term relationships before you decide to stop thinking with your cock and settle down with a woman don't you?
>>>6255771
>straight
>want femboi pussy
It's shit like this that made figuring out my sexuality a pain.
>>6255011
>I'm only attracted to femboys and only dated them
That's your problem. Femboys are 99% of the time the worst kind of sluts. Femboys are hardly even men so you don't even qualify as bisexual, literally every single Roman emperor had femboy fucktoys but they considered themselves straight.
>>6255787
>>6255789
Gayscum trying to project their degeneracy onto the bi master race
>Nearly Half of gay men have had an open relationship
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/02/03/nearly-half-of-gay-men-have-had-an-open-relationship/
>28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners
>83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
>Homosexuality: Infidelity is the key to a stable marriage?
http://www.virtueonline.org/homosexuality-infidelity-key-stable-marriage
Gayscum finds a new partner on grindr, scruff, hornet, surge, guyspy, growlr, jack'd and the countless other hook up apps they have.
Gays will literally tell you that they think you are worse because your next partner might be a woman, but have no problems cheating. Because they are so rigid in their sexual roles they want a new top every other week.
>>6255792
Femboys are not men, liking femboys does not make you gay. Cultures throughout history have accepted femboy fucktoys as a straight activity, with some cultures expecting every single male to fuck femboys. Surely not every single male in the Roman empire was born fucking Bisexual, but they were culturally conditioned to like femboys. If you do not like masculine men you are straight.
> bisexuals are more likely to have stis than straight people
> bisexuals tend to have more sexual partners than straight people
> bisexual men infected women with HIV during the AIDS crisis
>bisexual women in particular are more likely to be mentally ill than straight and gay people.
> one of the few instances where a lesbian contracted hiv off another woman was because she hooked up with a bisexual
muh master sexuality
https://www.poz.com/article/bisexual-STIs-25837-6322
> Men who have sex with men and women (MSMW) have a much higher rate of sexually transmitted infections (STIs) when compared with gay or straight men, ScienceDaily Reports. Publishing their findings in American Journal of Preventive Medicine, researchers at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) conducted a review of studies pertaining to MSMW published between 2008 and 2013.
> Twenty-one percent of MSMW reported receiving treatment for STIs in the past year, compared with 12 percent of gay men and 2.3 percent of heterosexual men.
>>6255659
This this this this.
There was a thread on reddit about a woman whose husband wanted to watch gay porn with her. At first she thought it would be really hot, but after watching her husband cum to a video of a man getting pounded in the ass by a huge cock, she couldn't help but be disgusted by the whole thing and she started viewing him as a faggot.
If you're a straight-leaning bi guy and you care about relationships with women, it's probably better to just try and forget that you're bi.
>Don't Be Constricted By Societal Norms of Love and Relationships! Open Your Heart and Mind to Polyamory and Meet Other Men Who are Enjoying Life With More Than One Partner!
http://www.gaypolyamorous.com/
>Meet the three men in a polyamorous relationship planning to start a family with their sisters' help
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/meet-three-men-polyamorous-relationship-6638612
> Gay men are more likely than heterosexual couples, lesbians, or bisexuals to practice consensual non-monogamy – but they still struggle with jealousy.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/love-without-limits/201304/the-truth-about-polyamory
>>6255842
>implying those "gay men" are not in relationships with bisexuals
Bisexuals are those who push for open relationships and polyamory 99% of the time. If you say no they cheat on you or leave you.
>>6255842
what's wrong with consensual non-monogamy?
>>6255848
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course they are de ebuul bisex made me do it.
Get over yourself gayscum, you are the ones that tire of cocks after a day and need a new cock or a new asshole because you are exclusive tops or bottoms and one half of you don't want to touch dick the other half don't want your dicks touched.
Gayscum project their sickness and non-monogamy on everyone.
>>6255850
Not him but he is right about non monogamy being absolutely disgusting and depraved. What he failed to mention however is that biscum are the main proponents of it when they are in relationships with gay men.
>>6255859
The vast majority of gay men I know are disgusted by it and view those who practice it as sluts, but I have yet to meet ONE bisexual in a same sex relationship who is not in some kind of special snowflake polyamorous/open relationship model or doesn't agree with the concept. Even those who are not in one currently have done it in the past or see nothing wrong with it.
>>6255859
>de ebuul bisex men are so ebul and force us innocent gays into non-monogamy
Sure, sure, sure.
On every site I'm on every gay couple that is married or engaged are "open" none of them are bisexual and they want a third part because one is top and one is bottom, but they want new people to bottom and top for.
Gays are such delusional fools.
>>6255864
The same majority of gay men that
>28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners
>83% of the homosexual men surveyed estimated they had had sex with 50 or more partners in their lifetime, 43% estimated they had sex with 500 or more partners; 28% with 1,000 or more partners
https://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity
Ok then.
>>6255873
The study you are citing collected samples from outside homosexual bathhouses and included bisexuals as homosexuals. It is like collecting straight promiscuity statistics from outside a brothel. It is a widely known fact that those who frequent bathhouses are mostly married middle aged bisexuals.
>>6255882
Sure it did. Everything you don't like to hear about gay men is always bisexuals right? Its like a bogeyman with you.
Just own up to the fact that most gay men are massive sluts with no interest in romance, only sex.
>>6255895
The study you showed collected statistics EXCLUSIVELY from outside homosexual bathhouses, you may look this up yourself. The fact that Bisexuals mostly frequent them was just an additional point to add to this fact. Even if all of them were gay the sample is still biased.
>>6255902
In other words, stop trying to excuse your lustful hedonistic lifestyle of fucking and dumping homosexuals by thinking "they only wanted sex anyway"
>>6255911
Homosexuals only want sex, it's why I'm not bothering doing anything with them. Not even sex.
Try to start something with them, and they want to taste something more in just a week because sex with just one person gets boring, and there's always someone bigger or more like their fantasies out there.
>>6255857
Okay but statistically the vast majority of ppl in polyamourous relationships are bi.
>>6255919
Nope.
> Gay men are more likely than heterosexual couples, lesbians, or bisexuals to practice consensual non-monogamy – but they still struggle with jealousy.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/love-without-limits/201304/the-truth-about-polyamory
News are filled with stories like these about gay men coming out twice, first as gay then as polyamorous. But its the evil bisexuals that force innocent gay men to be polyamorous right?
>This is my coming out story. My second one. When I was 16 years old, I first came out as gay.
Coming out then was hard but this time is much harder. This revelation is something I am more fearful about, but I have to come out.
I am polyamorous.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/may/26/dating-two-people-at-once-why-im-polyamorous-and-proud
>>6246715
>I saw one bisexual dude cheat so all bisexual people cheat
nigga how old are you
>>6253720
it could be a fine relationship if you guys just stopped being so promiscuous and unfaithful.
>>6255925
> In Loving More magazine's survey of 1,010 polys taken in 2000, 667 stated their sexual preference; of these, 51% said they were bisexual.
> Klesse, C. (2006). Polyamory and its ‘others’: Contesting the terms of non-monogamy. Sexualities, 9, 565-583. ["Although polyamory is not essentially linked to any particular sexual identity, a significant part of the UK polyamory scene seems to consist of bisexuals or – as one of my interview partners3 put it – ‘heteroflexibles’. It is not surprising, therefore, that polyamory emerged as one of the most significant discourses on nonmonogamy used by bisexual-identified participants in my study"
> McLean, K. (2004 ). Negotiating (non)monogamy: Bisexuality and intimate relationships. In R. C. Fox (Ed.), Current Research on Bisexuality (pp. 83-97). Binghamton, NY: Harrington Park Press. [In this study of bisexuals, 60 percent of the men and 52.5 percent of the women indicated their relationships were sexually open. Various forms of sexually open relationships were observed.]
> Rust, P.C. (1996). Monogamy and Polyamory: Relationship Issues for Bisexuals. In B. A. Firestein (Ed.) Bisexuality: The Pyschology and Politics of an Invisible Minority (pp.127-148). Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage Publications. [When bisexuals were asked about their relationship preferences, the most popular relationship preferences involved some form of sexual non-monogamy.]
> in October 2010 came this European report on preliminary results released from a large study, which found that 40% of bisexuals "consider themselves to be polyamorous." The full study was to be published in 2011 in the Journal of Bisexuality.
I can be here all day with the sources, buddy. If you think gay men are deviant for being in non-mongamous relationships then I'm sorry to break it to you, but bisexuals are considered the fucking glue of the polyamourous "community"
Nice try though :)
>>6255972
>cherry picking
ok, let's do this
>Mikey Rox and Everett Earl Morrow, both now 30, were committed to monogamy when they met and fell in love. That was five years ago. “After a couple instances of infidelity to which we both confessed, we decided it’s not realistic to expect either of us to never hook up with anyone else ever again,” says Rox, principal of Paper Rox Scissors Copy and Creative in Manhattan. The legally married couple has had an open relationship for the last two years. “Who wouldn’t want to be allowed to hook up with other guys and have their husband be OK with it?” he asks. “Isn’t that what most men dream of, and isn’t the limitation of sex with one partner in a marriage the reason why so many people cheat?” Adds Morrow, “As two men, sex isn’t particularly emotional for either of us.
http://www.advocate.com/arts-entertainment/features/2012/01/11/gay-male-couple-guide-nonmonogamy
https://www.queerty.com/guys-reveal-how-they-really-feel-about-open-relationships-20150719
>Who says you can’t have your cake and eat it too? In the gay dating world, an open relationship is fairly common, and for many couples it feels perfectly natural and entirely feasible.
http://www.welovedates.com/blog/20108/gay-open-relationship/
>So when my clients need to talk about their sex lives, we do. Some of the common complaints that I hear from gay male couples seeking help is that they are concerned about the frequency (or, rather, infrequency) of sex, or, after being together for a long time, they are bored or restless in their sex lives, and want to “spice things up” – seeking novel stimulation. Novel stimulation sexually is something that men (gay and straight) seem to crave, and this probably has roots into primal, hard-wired behavior.
http://www.gaytherapyla.com/threes-company-right-way-wrong-way-gay-mens-three-way/
>>6255999
He cited valid researches, you cited gay lifestyle magazines written by leftist activist ultra faggots.
>>6256010
Oh, so only the faggots you chose are the correct faggots to point out how they live? Hm. That's cherry picking alright. So let's continue
>Blake and Lanz met in their mid-twenties and have been together for 32 years. After all that time, "we still have great sex," Blake tells me, contradicting the common pessimistic belief that sexual interest inevitably wanes in a long-term relationship. How do they do it? "One reason," Lanz says, "is that we've been in an open relationship from the very beginning. If we hadn't been open, we wouldn't have been able to grow individually or as a couple. We've been able to bring what we learn with other sex partners into the relationship, and we've also been able to bring some of those partners into the relationship, sometimes as three-ways, but also as friends. Being in an open relationship has helped keep our relationship interesting and alive."
http://www.tommoon.net/articles/LTOpenRel.html
>hey call them "San Francisco relationships."
A term coined by the local gay community, it's defined as two men in a long-term open relationship, with lovers on the side.
After studying the sexual patterns of 566 gay male couples from the Bay Area for three years, lead researcher Colleen Hoff found that gay men negotiate ground rules and open their relationships as a way to build trust and longevity in their partnerships.
http://www.sfgate.com/lgbt/article/Many-gay-couples-negotiate-open-relationships-3241624.php
>These relationships take many forms. Probably most common is when two guys in a long-term relationship bring in a younger guy to heat things up (we gay guys have our own version of “Lesbian bed death”). Those tend not to last long. The S&M community has more structured versions, generally involving a “Sir” and a couple of “boys” whose job is to keep Sir happy.
http://www.wehoville.com/2012/11/03/ask-a-gay-do-most-gay-couples-have-open-sexual-relationships/
>>6256027
The only people who read these magazines are a minority of extremely promiscuous effeminate faggots heavily involved in LGBT lifestyle.
>>6256034
If you read the comments of these articles you can see that many of them disapprove of them greatly even among their readers.
>>6256034
That's just like your opinion man. You don't get to decide which gay men are really gay men and how much of minority they are. We continue on.
>Third, gay male culture has tended to put sex and hooking up on a pedestal, for the reasons I mentioned above, and as a reaction against gay sex having been so taboo and forbidden to us, growing up. And men in general are socialized to have few qualms about pursuing sex.
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/gay-men-monogamy-combination-jvinc/
>Furthermore, as Perel sees it, the distinction between monogamy and non-monogamy is erroneous. For her, “sexual exclusivity” and “fidelity” are more useful terms. “Fidelity is a relational constancy,” she explains. “A foundational respect, a pact, that may or may not include [sexual] exclusivity. Gay people have forever negotiated a monogamous relationship with a primary emotional commitment to one partner, with a deep sense of loyalty and devotion, that wasn’t necessarily sexually exclusive.”
http://www.salon.com/2015/03/08/it%E2%80%99s_not_about_the_sex_the_case_for_open_relationships_partner/
>Nearly half of gay men in the UK have had an open relationship, according to a new survey conducted by FS magazine.
Of the 1,006 gay men surveyed 41% are in, or have previously experienced, an open relationship.
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/four-in-10-gay-men-have-had-an-open-relationship/
>>6256049
>unironically using websites like fucking Salon to contradict valid sociological research
Whatever you say senpai
>>6256027
Fucking lmao. I cite actual research and statistics, and you keep going with the anecdotal evidence. It's adorable.
> if bi people disappeared, the poly world would immediately shrink by roughly 45%. Love More Magazine and Kinsey Institute, 2000.
> Kassia Wosick-Correa from UC Irvine has unpublished numbers that peg self-identified polyamorous bisexuals as 44% of all bisexuals.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-polyamorists-next-door/201309/have-your-jake-and-edith-too-bisexual-polyamorists
It is absolutely hypocritical to hate on gay men for the exact same shit the bisexual community also takes part in.Seriously, find yourself another hill to die on, retard.
>>6256062
That's just a semantics issue. Gay men don't call it polyamory they call it an open relationship which is all gay men want.
It's good that you realize that its idiotic to hate bi men for the same thing gay men do, over half of gay men in fact.
>>6256071
Cite actual research instead of anecdotal evidence and gay lifestyle magazines. You cited only one and the sample was biased.
>>6256081
You cherry picked, as you keep on doing here >>6256062 that study only deals with people calling themselves polyamorous which is a fairly new thing out to the public. It also doesn't differentiate between bi male - bi female, its says bi people polyamorists so of course it would shrink by 45%, which is still not half. Not many people call themselves that to begin with, it proves nothing. As such anecdotal stories shows the way gay men think about open relationships - not polyamory.
To claim that all gay men are monogamous you haven't provided a single study for nor could you because they don't exist and no one believes that except the most deluded of gay men.
>>6256071
"It's a semantics issue"
Translation: "I have no argument so I'm going to quickly try and back track"
Even if hypothetically gay men have more open relationships than bisexuals (which they don't). Doesn't change the fact that bisexuals are more likely to contract STDs and be mentally ill - which apparently is less of an issue than consensual non-monogamy lmao
>>6256089
You go out of your way to rail upon "gayscum" for not being monogamous. You try and find whatever little bit of "evidence" you can find to legitimise your retarded argument - resorting to gay lifestyle magazines and Whisper confessions... but I'M the one "cherry picking"?
Open relations or polyamoury - potato, potahtoe. Doesn't matter what you call it, the evidence is still there.
Besides, I NEVER claimed that gay men are monogamous. I am just pointing out that its absurd for you to hate on gay men for the exact thing bisexuals do in droves.
>>6256096
>less of an issue than consensual non-monogamy lmao
Not him but no. "consensual non-monogamy" is a huge issue that we must face in the gay community. It is true that Bisexuals are behind it most of the time but the cancer exists in the gay community too, although not nearly as widespread.
>>6256107
Being polyamorous and being in open consensual nonmongamy is not the same at all, so it does become a semantics issue. It does matter what you call it. Aside from being gay lifestyle magazines, what else could tell us about gay lifestyle than culture talking about gay lifestyle? Are you a higher proponent than gay lifestyle? That would be a retarded argument.
And I am pointing out that its absurd to hate bi men for the same thing gays do, but I don't claim that if bisexuals do something bad its really gay men posing as bi to make us look bad.
I know many bisexuals are sluts, but so are gay men and more people identify as gay on a larger scale than bi.
Gay culture is more or less built on promiscuousness. There is no bi culture, we have no own dating apps or sites or meetings so its weird to look at us as one group in that regard like you can with gay men.
To include bis as MSM is also unfair, or at least unfair if you don't include MSM as gay men as well.
My anecdotal evidence is that I can't find gay men that wants relationships, they want right now or a date and then sex, and after that they are not interested in anything else. I doubt I'm alone in this.
>>6256135
Don't be ridiculous. They're very much the same thing.
Show me statistics, case studies, factual sociological evidence. Not just shitty articles written by queertards about their own shitty sex lives.
At the end of the day I started posting in defence of gay men because you were coming up with the bizarre reasons to hate on them for (which is ironic really seeing as I'm not even a gay man, I'm a lesbian, and I have my issues with gay men just as much as I do with bisexuals). You cannot demonise gay men but then champion bisexuals. it doesn't work like that.
At the end of the day it's not gay people's fault y'all have no culture. At the end of the day bisexuals were more than happy to piggy back off the gay community for the longest period of time, but then crawl back into the closet and keep things on the downlow when it suited you. Gay people never had that option. It was do or die. You can't keep blaming gay people forever for your communities' short comings.
And fucking knock it off with the "master sexuality" bollocks. Gay people resent you, straight people think your freaks. You have serious community issues up the wazoo, barely any culture that you haven't just knicked off the gays. Stop blaming gay people for not having your shit together. Stop claiming superiority when your sexuality is literally shit-tier.
If gay men are so terrible, here's a pro-tip. Date another bisexual man. There. Problem solved. Stop whinging and be proactive.
>>6251395
>tfw when nobody ever fucking gets you
Exactly the only sort of person that stands a chance of "getting" me.
You, lady, are a gentleman and a scholar.
>>6255141
I'm not goint to blame the trans since they've already got too much rough shit to go through but:
>A lot of people get sucked into it when they probably would feel better as something inbetween, it's just society and trannies and such tell them they can't by acting like the inbetween shit is nonexistent.
This is kinda my entire point.
>>6255659
>>6255838
So the ladies get to tell they're bi, but the sirs gotta stay in the closet in fear of losing the lady???!!!
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
YYYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
That's opressive and double-standard as all hell and ENTIRELY JUSTIFIED GROUNDS FOR DUMPING ANYONE
Example:
>Alice and Bob are together
>Alice: I'm into girls too
>Bob: That's nice
>Bob: I into guys too
>Alice: EWWW DISGUSTING! D:
The only happy ending for that is:
>Bob points to the door
>Alice gathers her shit
>Alice GTFOs
Alice is a jealous piece of scum unable to cope and would in all likelihood ruin Bob's life one way or another.
Learn to treat others as goddamn human beings.
NEVER EVER tell a woman you're bi - even if she is herself. The homophobia of women is rarely talked about but IME its almost 100%. Agree with the post about femboys being the answer but there are not enough of them for that to be a viable option.
>>6256301
>homophobic
>you are bi
Homophobia does not mean what you think it means.
>>6256301
Like I would step down to be in a relationship like that.
And anyways, I *NEVER* cheat. I can harbor feelings or lust for other people but I never, never ever cheat. I could try seeing more than 1 people at once if everybody was okay with it, but not otherwise and in all likelihood it wouldn't end well.
OTOH, my jealousy is next to non-existant (I used to be very jealous, I managed to get it out of my system along long years)
I honestly would prefer being cheated on than cheating on somebody. Somebody cheating on me I could forgive, but ME cheating on anybody feels HORRIBLE (did it once, as a teen, light stuff, still felt like utter shit about it for years)
But I wouldn't EVER be in a relationship with anybody that doesn't take the whole ME package.
>>6256340
>I could try seeing more than 1 people at once if everybody was okay with it
If you are trying to dismantle bisexual stereotypes you are doing a horrible job at it.
>>6256340
>I could try seeing more than 1 people at once if everybody was okay with it, but not otherwise and in all likelihood it wouldn't end well.
You mean forcing your lover to accept an open relationship after much whining and intimidation or dump him because that filthy faggot wouldn't allow you to express your sexuality.
>>6256329
ok ok I'm not knee deep in the nuances of lgbt terminology, but you know what I mean.
>>6256351
I'm not trying to dismantle anything. That's just my take on the issue.
It's something that's seriously not going to happen; something I don't *need*, and something I sure as fuck am not going to trample an existing relationship over.
Of all the people I know, I'm the freaking high master of keeping it in my pants.
>>6245834
Bi guy here.
> it sucks when people belittle ur sexuality by lumping you into the gay catagory with the denial accusation. Thats why im closeted.
Biscum cheating: i had 3 lovers at the same time before i found a committed relationship. The relationship i have is better and more fun than hookups, so i dont bother with those anymore. I dont want to cheat, so i wont.
Basically if u want a bi guy to be with you you gotta talk with him about being committed and exclusive
>>6250547
Only on the internet
No one even says "biscum" irl
>>6256381
>Basically if u want a bi guy to be with you you gotta talk with him about being committed and exclusive
Having to have this talk is by itself abhorrent. It should be obvious.
>I had 3 lovers at the same time before i found a committed relationship.
Every single biscum on earth does
Find me ONE biscum male who has never been, does not want to be, does not agree with open/polyamorous relationships or hookups and could spend his life in a commited monogamous relationship with another male and I will stop hating them.
>>6255792
I disagree with your statement as I feel current American standards would equate such practice as homosexual. If your sexual partner has a penis and you are a man society would define you as gay.
>>6256399
I'm right here
>>6256170
Being polyamorous means you think you can love more than one person at the same time. It means sexual and romantic non-monogamy.
The thing most gay couples do is to have a baseline relationship with exclusive romance, but sexual non-monogamy. Love is exclusive but they invite more people or have sex partners on the side.
Its not the same at all to be honest.
>>6256425
>The thing most gay couples do
>most
No. I am insulted by the very implication of this notion.
>>6256433
it's the truth
https://www.quora.com/What-percent-of-gay-men-in-the-US-are-in-a-long-term-relationship-and-how-does-this-compare-to-the-general-population
And most same sex couples are never really in any long term relationship either
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2FBF01542001
What does it mean if I'm a bi guy who would absolutely refuse to have an open/poly relationship under any circumstances?
>>6256453
You do participate in hookups though do you not?
>>6256450
This is why I will never find a bf.
>>6256391
Why should it be obvious? Relationships are built on communication. If u hookup with a guy and he is like ok cya call me sometime has either of you made a commitment to the other? Fuck no. Do you assume the other guy wants to hear from you or is all clingy like most chicks.
The guy in dating now was different, after we met we talked about dating exclusively. All it takes is a little communication about what you want.
Be open and honest
>>6256463
>implying having hookups is not disgusting and degenerate
>>6256482
He will force you into an open relationship in 1-3 years. If you decline he will cheat on you and then leave you.
>>6256482
>I feel like as a man I am unable to satisfy my partners needs.
He will use this argument to force you into polyamory soon enough, and you will be the bad guy in his eyes.
>>6256391
What's wrong with having multiple sex partners of multiple genders though? It might seem degenerate to you, but as long as nobody is hurt, what's the el problemo?
>>6256329
Biphobic then?
>>6256556
That you see absolutely wrong with it proves my point. Stay away from biscum at all costs.
>>6256561
Yes, although I see it more as a badge of honor than an insult. Tolerating biscum is the real insult.
>>6256563
*absolutely nothing wrong
>>6256252
Go ahead and dump girls for it, but then you'll end up dumping most girls. Even those that are "fine with it" often deep down aren't.
>>6256457
I hook up with girls. A guy has to be amazingly special before I would fuck him though.
>>6256570
You of all peoplw should know people can't change who they're attracted to. Don't hate.
>>6256595
Biscum are culturally conditioned to like femboys, they are not born that way. See >>6255806. I have countless other examples of societies and cultures promoting bisexuality to a degree that every single male fucked femboys.
>>6256592
I don't give a fuck about your behavior as long as it doesn't extend to guys. Hooking up is still absolutely disgusting but it does not concern me if you only fuck women that way.
>>6256252
>So the ladies get to tell they're bi, but the sirs gotta stay in the closet in fear of losing the lady???!!!
Look, I hate unfair situations too. But I just don't care about this one. I view being bi as just another fetish I have (and I have many, some of which are arguably less socially acceptable than being bi). It's not a deep part of my identity that I absolutely have to tell my partner about. If you feel that way, then I feel bad for you and I sympathize with you, but I just don't feel the same.
Also
>That's oppressive
It's really not. This ain't tumblr, buddy.
>>6256479
Stating that directly
>>6256638
Which gives me another reason to despise you and your kind.
>>6256616
>Hooking up is still absolutely disgusting
That's retarded, but ok.
>>6256643
>That's retarded, but ok.
I wouldn't expect you to say otherwise given your condition. Biscum are pathologically incapable of understanding sexual morality.
>>6256651
More so incapable of thinking with their brain instead of their genitals. Chemical castration would alleviate the pain of having to fuck something every 10 minutes. I pity them, truly.
>>6256651
I'm pretty sure you're just trolling for fun, but you do know that hooking up is extremely popular now among straight, bi, and gay people, right?
>>6256662
Unfortunately the cancer has spread, and it is popular primarily among bisexuals, secondarily among gays. Only the most depraved of straight people practice it, usually those in ultra liberal college circles, while biscum like yourself will use every excuse possible to justify your hedonistic lifestyle, literally grasping at straws.
>>6256662
>Argumentum ad populum
Current year tier
>>6256671
It doesn't help that the number of bisexuals has increased tenfold the past decade, because more and more retards think it is fashionable and open minded to fuck everything that moves while pretending to be special. The notion that sexuality is fluid and subject to change has played a large role in this development.
>>6256651
>a homo preaching about sexual morality
Ok
>>6256698
I have never hooked up and I am in a committed monogamous relationship with my first partner for 5 years. Need I say more?
>>6255011
> Femboys
So the sluttiest guys on this planet? You realize their femininty is only reinforced to them by getting railed as often as possible by some daddy right?
God biscum are either whores or just fucking stupid
>>6246860
Fuck yeah! Not going to hide that I'm bi for the comfort of others, one can't just deny themselves like that.
>>6256743
Good, it makes it easier to identify and avoid you.
>>6256357
What sort of entitled little bitch would try pulling that off?
If somebody tried that on me I'd drop them straight away. Not on grounds of wanting to fuck other people, on grounds of emotional blackmail X)
>>6256581
I'll let you know that the common female doesn't look twice my way. And I'm cute.
If they choose to act "being fine" but deep down they aren't, that's entirely their business.
>>6256634
It's not so much that it's unfair, and more about that I wouldn't be interested in such a person.
>It's really not. This ain't tumblr, buddy.
>Implying I come from tumblr.
Tumblr is for porn, friend. But yeah, maybe oppressive wasn't the right word. It's just stupid and egotistical.
>>6256046
I'm bi and i don't really want kids
>my gay bf does want kids. MFW
>>6256756
>gay bf
Poor guy
>>6256765
You are the only one making things complicated with your bullshit
>>6256705
That you are a 4/10 with a limited sex drive and lack of ambition? That one day soon you will feel the cold strong grip of remorse that you devoted yourself to a singular being at the prime of your life to possibly one day have it all fade away due to the natural change of interests individuals face as they mature?
One day soon you'll be married and soon after that the person you've held so dear could very much become a stranger. Enjoy not being able to find a new partner as you only have experience pleasing a single person.
>>6256642
ok prude. here is how it works for a normal "has no fucked up issues person"
>Him: I dont want a long term relationship i just want fun/sex in the short term
>Me: I'm ok with this.
Where do you think this whole degeneracy comes from? did someone you care for blow you off after hooking up or something?
Whats the objection. If I were hooking up with 18-22 y.o. would you still be bislut-shaming?
>>6256479
>>6256769
>That you are a 4/10 with a limited sex drive and lack of ambition? That one day soon you will feel the cold strong grip of remorse that you devoted yourself to a singular being at the prime of your life to possibly one day have it all fade away due to the natural change of interests individuals face as they mature?
The supreme cry of the angry slut. Is there any doubt that biscum are not relationship material? They will dump you as soon as they get bored, for they are incapable of understanding concepts that go beyond the basic human drive for reproduction. Concepts like commitment, for instance, or love. They are subhuman beasts, make no mistake about it. Also funny how you project your own insecurities on me.
>>6256774
>If I were hooking up with 18-22 y.o.
chicks
type-o
>>6256774
>ok prude. here is how it works for a normal "has no fucked up issues person"
>Him: I dont want a long term relationship i just want fun/sex in the short term
>Me: I'm ok with this.
>be too immature to desire a relationship
>be horny
>muh dik
>want the benefits of sex without the responsibillity of a relationship
>download Grindr
>hookup with a couple of thousand strangers
>grow old
>be alone
>be jumping from relationship to relationship
>be incapable of forming any significant bond with one person
>be ridden with STDs
>>6256769
>One day soon you'll be married and soon after that the person you've held so dear could very much become a stranger. Enjoy not being able to find a new partner as you only have experience pleasing a single person.
Monogamy and commitment are not realistic you faggots, being attached to one person is fucking stupid. What if you want sum fuk later on dude? Besides, people change and you will sooner or later become bored of him. You should live while you are young and free and experience your sexuality to the fullest, love is just for old people who are too unattractive to game and need someone to babysit them, there is no reason to become attached to one person while young.
>>6256425
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/strictly-casual/201409/are-bisexuals-really-less-monogamous-everyone-else
Well look at that. Bisexuals also tend to have open relationships more often than gay and straight people what a shock y'all
Way to shoot yourself in the foot lmao
Why don't bisexuals just date other bisexuals? It seems so fucking obvious to me
>>6256769
>One day soon you'll be married and soon after that the person you've held so dear could very much become a stranger. Enjoy not being able to find a new partner as you only have experience pleasing a single person.
Is that how people think now? You should be with someone until you get bored to move on? Does love mean nothing to you? Love grows with time, it does not fade unless your relationship is based exclusively on shallow concepts like having fun and fucking each other well. If you are gay and you are married to a bisexual know that he will divorce you as soon as he gets bored of you, because your love means nothing to him and it fades with his sexual and materialistic interest.
>>6256825
Say that to the rest of the subhumans in this thread
This is how your fellow biscum view marriage and long term relationships
>One day soon you'll be married and soon after that the person you've held so dear could very much become a stranger. Enjoy not being able to find a new partner as you only have experience pleasing a single person.
>>6256848
No, you are an endangered, nearly extinct breed. Just call yourself gay.
>>6256848
I'm the same. Most bisexual people I meet are the same, it's the gay guys I meet that have no interest in a relationship.
>>6256858
This thread proves the exact opposite, anecdotal and statistical evidence proves the exact opposite.
>>6256769
Wait until you are old and there is nobody to stand by your side but your Grindr fuckbuddies.
I have no personal experience with bi men, but as a lesbian who has dated several bisexual women I can honestly hand on heart say that bisexual women are some of the craziest, unstable and entitled shit heads on earth.
They're always really selfish in bed (and weirdly, aggressively kinky), childish, flaky and have honest to God tantrums if you dare to say "no" to their demands to ~make the relationship more open~.
One girl I dated broke up with me because I didn't want to have a threesome with a guy she met off okcupid. She ends up dating the guy to try and spite me, only to break up with him 5 months later because he wanted to settle down, and she was desperate for some pussy.
Another bisexual ex of mine keeps going on and on about how I was ~just a phase~, but without fail every time she gets drunk I'm the first person she tries to hook up with.
It's ridiculous. I feel so bad for straight men who have to deal with their bullshit too. I don't know if bisexual men are the same or not, but as it stands I have only ever met one bisexual woman who isn't a total fucking bitch.
Bisexuals are so bad that even their own community is fragmented and resentful towards eachother. Why do you think so many bisexuals claim to be pansexual? Why do you think bisexuals complain about gays and straights not wanting them rather than just date each other?
>>6256897
I'm a bisexual woman and you're completely right.
>>6256832
You can love many people if your heart is big enough.
>>6256780
Is slutshaming the only argument you have? Sounds like someone is butthurt that they don't have a bi heart capable of more love.
>>6256897
People being stupid =/= People being stupid because they are Bisexual.
People trying to get into a perfect long term relationship before they are 30 are delusional, whatever their orientation.
Most people are not monogamous, it has nothing to do with bisexuality being incapable of monogamy.
>>6256780
Not sure if troll or somebody raped you as a child.
>>6256936
If you're incapable of monogamy then be honest with your partner. Don't fuck around on the downlow, or throw a tantrum because your straight/gay partner won't let you fool around with every Tom, Dick and Judy.
It's not even the lack of monogamy that's the problem, it's the entitlement. Just earlier in the thread there were bisexuals encouraging each other to keep their sexuality a secret to dupe partners into giving them a chance. They just cannot handle the idea of not getting their own way.
>>6252626
This.
Homosexuals are mentally ill and want to sleep around forever. There may be cocks big enough to fill their holes, but there's nothing that can mend their brains and hearts.
>>6256252
>So the ladies get to tell they're bi, but the sirs gotta stay in the closet in fear of losing the lady???!!!
bi guy here.
Tried to have a serious relationship with a kinda bi girl. She immediately told me about her past experiences with some women and I was perfectly fine.
After some time I told her "actually I had cocks too in the past".
She immediately threw a tantrum , the fact that I dated men as well made her totally insecure and jealous.
this shit is a double standard and since I can't do much about it I'll just shut up about my sexual preferences, especially with women.
>>6256794
>be too immature to desire a relationship
I am now in a relationship, ur argument is invalid
>muh dik
Is great
>want the benefits of sex without the responsibillity of a relationship
Said every guy ever
>download Grindr
So did you
>hookup with a couple of thousand blah blah slut shame
7 guys total
>be ridden with STDs
Got tested 2 weeks ago, no stds no hiv.
Bf got tested too, bye bye trojan man
>>6256897
Bi guy here
I hate the pan label. If your pan your already bi why do u want a snowflake label to say u sleep with trans as if other who are bi dont?!
And i think this lesbian is just made kuz she resents dating bi women. Bi guys are most fun
>>6256914
That was incredibly sweet.
Thank you so very much.
>>6256399
Hello...
Now, show me one gAIDS male that doesn't do everything you just said even in the slightest.
>>6256914
is this some polyamorous bullshit propaganda?
>>6257415
Yes.
>>6256958
I am confident the conversation at the beginning of the thread was just an attempt to avoid prejudice.
>>6256914
That sounded an ad for polyamory but was still kind of sweet. Aw.
Can't we all just let people love who they love?
I'm a 20 year old gay man and I'd have no problem dating a bi guy. Ironically, my first bf was bi and ended up leaving me for a girl and I still don't think that's any excuse to reject someone because of their sexuality. If someone cheats on you, or leaves you for another person, they're a cunt. Doesn't matter if they do it with a guy or a girl. Being a whore isn't exclusive to bisexuals.
>>6256874
Being old and single actually isn't that bad. If you're unhappy about it it's most likely because you also lost friends and such.
I've met tons of old single people and they're usually pretty happy and more socially engaged than couples are. There's more than one way to live life and being in a relationship really doesn't just magically generate happiness like everyone seems to think it does.
The only real downside is vacations and shit cause everyone always goes as couples. When I went to Vegas I just found someone on /b/ to hangout with me haha
>>6258425
There are a lot of teenagers here that think someone even looking at someone else is degeneracy
Date another bi person, problem solved
>>6252399
I see myself as a 50/50 bi guy, and like romantically. Never bootycalled a guy or a girl, just not into that idea. If I like someone so much they make my heart doki doki then I don't care about the gender at all. Dating another bi guy sounds ideal except that the majority of guys who've seemed promising then reveal that they've been straight for ages and had a bad breakup with a girl, or they're having no luck with girls etc, and so they want to try out dating a guy.
So yeah, gay guys just want to use me for sex, bi guys MOSTLY want me as something to keep away the loneliness until they get another girlfriend. I feel your pain OP, but honestly I just put it down to the fact that people general suck, regardless of gender, orientation, etc etc.
>>6259230
>teenagers
Found your problem.
>>6259728
id hug you anon-kun
>>6245834
Well I don't hate it but pretty much all of that isn't wrong.
I also find that it's just a bit more difficult to be bros with your straight male friends because they need to go out of their way to remind/tell you that they're not gay in any sort of way even though I can clearly tell and they're not even attractive to me pretty much every time. It's not like I'm not understanding.
But this right here:
>Women think you're not masculine enough since you like cock as well (yet at least 70% of them claim to be bi curious or had homosexual experiences)
Is what annoys me the most. Dem double standards.
>>6256399
Might be rare but we do exist. The guy I fell in love with though just used me as a rebound to get his self esteem back up enough so he could get the girl he wanted, so I completely understand why you hate people like that.
>>6259745
Thanks anon
>>6259728
So cute ;////;
>>6259806
I'm a bi guy whod dated more than once bi girls. They all have the same pattern. They brag a lot about having had sex with other women but when you say "nice, I fucked boys too" they'll turn paranoid and insecure.
>>6269071
Personally for me as a bi girl I think one of the factors is insecurity. I haven't dated a bi guy and I know I wouldn't think of him as less of a man, but I would without a doubt feel like insecure in my lack of cock. Let's face it, when guys fuck, they can be either role, with me they can only be one, and not everyone is satisfied with dildos and strap ons.
>tfw feeling this flipped gender type of this nagging insecurity while dating a bi girl
There's also the actual fear of the "gay in denial" thing. I know a girl who has burned by this, she took it out on me for a while, telling me bisexuals don't exist and stuff.
FFs..... all these posts. I'm bi, and while I will admit to being a total slut when I'm single I'd rather die than cheat on my partner when in a relationship. Had the same partner for 8 years, too, until they went full retard and decided they could do better. So go jump with your "biscum cheat XDDD" crap.
>>6255678
I thought it was the partner, not the father usually?
>>6271818
well at least "they" didn't cheat on you
that is kind of your job after all kek
>>6271912
everyone forget the onkel
>>6256837
>quoting out of context
Seems like I hit home.
>>6271818
after reading this thread, it seems that
>lesbians in a relationship, one partner or both wants open relationship... that's OK
>gays in a relationship, one partner or both wants open relationship... that's OK.
>a lesbian/gay in a relationship with a bi, one or both want an open relationship... if there is even the remote possibility that the bi will end up with someone of the opposite sex in the open relationship then that person is scum and it is the end of the world.
I thought about creating another thread asking gays/lesbians who would normally be OK in an open/poly relationship if they would change their tune if their partner revealed that they were dating/hooking-up with someone of the opposite gender.
>>6272022
Do it!
>>6272022
Are open relationships even a thing? I've never seen any gay guys doing it.
I think it's just old researchers mixing up terminology trying to get around using the word "fuckbuddy"
I couldn't even imagine how the conversation would go where you would propose that. Technically the order of operations if you are "fucking your way into a relationship" is casual sex -> fuckbuddies -> dating/monogamy. I'd think asking for an open relationship would basically be downgrading your relationship to fuckbuddy status, so you're kind of going backwards.
>>6272088
>Are open relationships even a thing
apparently? seems like plenty of ppl are talking about them and how to deal with them (and not on 4chan).
I don't disagree with anything that you said. The few that I know that come close to anything like that are extremely closed poly relationships. I'm not really into open or poly type stuff, so it's hard for me to wrap my brain around it which is one reason why I didn't create that thread.
>>6269071
This right here is what annoys me. I don't get it. I feel like I, as a bisexual man, moved past that insecurity LONG ago, like probably way back in middle school or the early parts of high school. I used to be insecure when it came to bisexual women, used to feel the same when it came to lesbians too, but that's because I was young and ignorant. If you're around 18 years old, have had some dating or sex experience (or even if you don't), yet you still don't trust bi men, you are dumb.
>>6272088
>Are open relationships even a thing?
Seriously? They're practically 'everywhere' if you know where to look. So basically, any poly community. I know several people in them, have fooled around with people in open relationships before, and have proposed being in one to at least one person before. I'd like to think of myself as a poly person as well.
>>6274127
>Seriously? They're practically 'everywhere' if you know where to look. So basically, any poly community. I know several people in them, have fooled around with people in open relationships before, and have proposed being in one to at least one person before. I'd like to think of myself as a poly person as well.
I've never encountered them and I'm not even really a shutin. I go on tons of dates, never met a single person that wanted an open relationship. I've met tons of people wanting fuckbuddies/fwb though.
>>6274137
Like I said, they're around 'if you know where to look.' Which is pretty stupid of me anyway since of course a poly community is going to have lots of people in open relationships.
Maybe I'm just lucky in that regard since where I live, there's apparently a pretty well and thriving...'alternative' sex community I guess you'd call it? Anyway, it's there and it's more underground but there are plenty of people, mostly attractive people if anything, and we're all pretty active.
>>6274159
I live in a pretty conservative area and I generally stick to online dating. My area is usually packed full of flamers or closeted married guys. It sucks.
We have a kink/alternative type community here, but barely anyone knows about it. We have a huge sex convention every year and I've never met a single person even aware we have it. When I tell them they cannot even believe they get away with it lol
>>6274208
>I live in a pretty conservative area and I generally stick to online dating. My area is usually packed full of flamers or closeted married guys. It sucks.
Sorry, senpai.
Area I live in is actually not bad for queers in general. There's plenty of them actually, out and open and all. We seem to have a ton of black lesbians or bisexual black women, just for instance, and everyone's cool with that. That said, the groups that I belong to, you do get just a bit of a sense that you need to know the right people to get into the circle.
>We have a huge sex convention every year and I've never met a single person even aware we have it. When I tell them they cannot even believe they get away with it lol
A 'huge' sex convention that not many people know about? How does that work? So just a lot of people aren't really in the know?
>>6274236
>A 'huge' sex convention that not many people know about? How does that work? So just a lot of people aren't really in the know?
They go to our cities convention center, so like 10,000+ people, so it's not exactly small. It's concert-tier popularity it just doesn't get advertised. My brother went years ago and said it was pretty fun haha
It's been going on for years and years and I've never met anyone even aware it occurs. It's sort of funny how that happens. Most people agree it's plausible it occurs they just don't pay attention I guess.
>>6274275
>They go to our cities convention center, so like 10,000+ people, so it's not exactly small. It's concert-tier popularity it just doesn't get advertised. My brother went years ago and said it was pretty fun haha
>It's been going on for years and years and I've never met anyone even aware it occurs. It's sort of funny how that happens. Most people agree it's plausible it occurs they just don't pay attention I guess.
Yeah, okay I get it. It's popular but it's not in the mainstream. A lot of things are that way.
Honestly that kind of describes anything that isn't in the mainstream, if you think about it. Although it does seem like the people you're around should really be aware of something, right?
>>6256914
This is what cis girls tell themselves when they cheat.
>"It's not my fault I slept with Chad Thundercock, I loved him!"
>>6245834
why the fuck would you willingly date a woman
even if you are sexually attracted to them to some degree, haven't you had enough of their constant stream of inconsistent stupid shit?
>>6255673
Yes. Now leave us alone and go be with a woman. This is why nobody wants to date you, you're a slut.
>>6255659
nah, fuck off
nobody needs sexist cunts like you in their life
>>6253488
Wierd I actually kinda want the opposite
>women for sex because it's easier to hook up with them for a bit of fucking and they really just want a dick in their pussy for a few nights
>eventually I want to find a guy as my lifelong partner who's qt, as committed as I would be to him and also into technology and vids. Someone who also doesn't want kids and would stay with me til the end. Just to have a relationship based on true love
Now I've already found someone I've known since gr7 who has dropped a few jokes about "love you" and during a time when we were cities apart we'd get super clingy whe we saw eachother and would spend hours crying on the last day when I had to leave. but has never been in any kind of relationship or anything so I don't know if he could be asexual and we are very good friends anyways and have created things together so I dont want to tell him and fuck up what has been an amazing friendship that has lasted through times where any other just friends would have just moved on to new friends
>>6253813
Idk. As a bi guy who does absolutely not want children I tend to look more to guys now that I think of settling down. 99% of women are gonna want kids (mother instinct) and I'd rather not have to basically deny them that and have a fucked relationship because of that
With what I want to do children would just a) get in the way and drain my time and b) I'd never be around and that would probably make them feel fucking terrible
Girls and their so calked "problems" also piss me off to no end. Bitch about this and that I'd rather find the girls who just want a quick fuck when I just want to dump a load. Boom done and I don't have to hear about "how hard done by" you are while being fucking pampered. We need to sent these girls into the bush for 3 days have them survive and maybe they'll realize their lives are fucking paradise
>>6255806
What if you like both?
I mean some days I want to fuck the shit out of a femboy but most of the time I just want to be fucked in the ass by the biggest dick possible.
This thread has convinced me to never tell anyone I'm bi ever again.
>>6245834
i got your same feel bro...best solution so far, date bi people, or don't tell anibody you're bi. let everybody assume what they want when they'll see you date girls and guys
>>6274823
Join the closeted master race! We have cookies in here.
>>6274632
>constant stream of inconsistent stupid shit
I think guys who say things like this are just shut-ins who don't interact with a lot of women. I went on a date with a girl last night and I was laughing just as hard as I do with any of my guy friends. There was only one time in the whole five hours where I thought "meh, this is stupid girl shit" and tuned out, and that only lasted for like a minute.
There are plenty of cool women, you just maybe have to look a little harder than you do with guys.
>>6275466
an outlier doesn't invalidate the norm
and obviously some men are willing to put up with their shit and even go as far as to fool themselves that they like it, otherwise the species would have went extinct
but i'm not one of those men
>>6270079
here my thing. I'm a bi girl and I had sex with both. Having sex with a woman is different than a man, but personally I prefere sex with men. Dildos and Strapons are fine but I think they are not as good as cock. As for masturbation and oral sex I think that a well experienced and trained man can be as good as a woman in these things, but that's just my opinion.
Also: men tend to be more rough and I like that.
>>6245834
I fucking hate being bi too! it's the cherry on the shit sundae of being trans too.
>be in love with cishet male best friend since middle school
>zero interest, even after I became a girl
>that's life, whatever...
>fall in love with cis bi girl
>really close relationship, together for 2 years, feels like "the one"
>she tells me she doesn't love me anymore, but we can still be friends
>bad breakup, but I still love her
>she hasn't spoken to me since
>bestie asks if he can date her
>say yes as my heart tears in two
>they've been together for 9 months now, and they're in love
all I want to do is to wiggle in between them both and love them both forever, but he'll never have feelings for me and she'll hate me forever
>>6277148
I don't know why you call yourself bi. You're just straight.
>>6278270
Because she's not exclusively attracted to men, she just has a preference for them...
>>6245834
Oh fuck. I hope this doesn't happen to me in the future.
>>6277148
Lol, there is no point to dating bi girls for relationships.
>>6278286
According to her, there is literally no point for women to exist when men can do everything better.
