tough girls edition
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why do idiots always forget previous thread
>>6206098
your mom!
>tfw not korean
>tfw only fake asian
>>6206064 #
I'm always here to vent to bb. Don't feel like ur dropping burdens on me I'm hella strong emotionally prolly twice as strong as every girl here and I've been through he'll and back. I use that extra strength to lend a hand and let other ppl lean on me when they're feeling down. we're family so it makes me happy to help you anyway I can! and I don't consider you a burden at all even if it's just sharing ur feelings so don't feel bad if you ever want to <333333
*hugs*
>>6206077 #
lmao I have to start doing this tnx anon
>>6206058 #
thanks! it was a quesadilla with beans and rice!
I should had gone with this one...
>>6206042
one track is better than nothing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MPfKYL-Vhc
>The white guilt is strong with these people
it's so hard to be a white girl these days ;~;
>>6206058
ekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
>>6206064
;~; you can do it!
>>6206077
>mfw all of my money is the spare change I keep in my car
>mfw the last meal I paid for was in quarters
that's gonna be a little difficult...
>>6206108
>lmao I have to start doing this tnx anon
lol awesome!
if I was a little less shy about being a trans person I'd do it in that context myself lol
>>6206084
im really not concerned with labels, I just don't know how to present myself in a way that properly translates my personality and identity because I have no idea who or what I am *shrug*
>>6206090
im definitely glad I have the ability to experiment, plus I'm still relatively young (22) so its not like the neverpass hon clock is ticking if i decide to go that route lol. I'm sure ill be posting all about it in the coming months
>>6206104
you got me
>>6206061
White people are fucking hilarious in a lot of respects. No ethnic group that would unironically invent polka and the chicken dance should take itself seriously.
>>6206064
I hope that you get through this and actually get to a better spot ;_;
My fingers are crossed that getting back on the mones will help stabilize things, they generally tend to.
>>6206077
It makes no sense, no. Food's about sharing and blending and making cool new twists on things. I wonder if these people are aware that the majority of american foods are just ethnic foods that were altered heavily by immigrants. The process of making new foods from other foods is the entire reason why north america has its own cuisine these days..
>>6206119
well thankfully I'm not visibility trans yet i still look 100% str8 cis lol. I even had a gay guy ask me if I was gay before when I had makeup on lol. I suppose it has up and downsides
Do you guys dream about your wedding day?
>tfw using man voice with old friends
KILL ME
>>6206126
It's pretty much white guilt getting out of control.
>>6206122
>I just don't know how to present myself in a way that properly translates my personality and identity
that's a label. you don't need to find the hole that was designed for you. that's pretty idiotic and a bit tumblrish. people are people, others give them labels to make it easier to deal with them but you don't actually have to go out of your way to make it easier for others.
You're [insert anon's name here] and that's it. Unless you have gender disphoria and then you're [insert anon's feminin name here]
>>6206130
is that little girl drunk?
>tfw hrt gave you a cute butte
>>6206125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1AHec7sfZ8
Tips on how to break my mind into thinking I look okay?
>>6206126
I wonder how much music would be killed if we claimed that certain artists were "appropriating certain cultures"
you know, like eminem (rap), the entire reggae movement (african tribal), and digitally produced electronic music (live techno/dnb movements)
or like, even fucking sampling
breakcore would be dead if they accused it of appropriating "Amen Brother"
>>6206128
surprisingly yes. I want to do it in a wedding dress and have a husband or wife carry me out. my family is he a a giant me being trans so prolly only my two little sisters would go.
but it kinda makes me sad cuz it reminds me I'll never find love bc ugly5life
>>6206143
Is such a good feeling
>>6206128
not really, I've never met anyone with a working marriage so I don't get the whole thing.
>>6206127
well, you were looking for guys, right?
Still, being with a gay guy probably would trigger me a little knowing he likes all the parts of me I hate...
>>6206130
you had to or you did it whithout knowing?
>>6206138
No but I wish I was drunk because this is making me want to blow my brains out
>tfw extremely deep man voice
h-haha ;_;D
>>6206146
You don't look okay though. You want to be more delusional?
>>6206150
wtf retarded ass phone. heavily against me bring trans*
>>6206146
why would you want to think something you don't think? that sounds pretty unhealthy.
we'll always have fffs to dream of, I guess...
>>6206152
I did it because I was lonely and they're fun but my throat hurts from talking and my voice is so deep
>>6206108
ure so nice <3 <3 <3
>>6206126
>I hope that you get through this and actually get to a better spot ;_;
maybe ;~;
I am doing my best! sorry for being so depressive all the time. I probably should like, post less and put more time into escapism.
>>6206152
yeah exactly. that's why I can't really date anyone rn. I feel too ugly and uncomfortable with the way I look. I don't particularly trust girls enough to try them again so I'm str8 as an arrow
>>6206151
>>6206143
...
I wanna have a cute butt...
>>6206136
im not trying to find the hole I fit into, im trying to figure what the hell shape peg I am
also, even my name (tyler) is andro. what fresh unidentified hell is my life destined to be
>>6206160
Come out to them my man. Maybe one of them will fuck you and help you get your shit together.
>>6206160
but you did it because they wouldn't have liked your female voice or without noticing just started talking like you used to be?
does it hurt because you don't usually talk like that or you're not used to talk at all?
>>6206149
House music was appropriated by the mainstream after they stole it from gay black dudes in Chicago. FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE REEEE YOU DONT EVEN HAVE BIG DICKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsNNh-9tXPY
>>6206118
UNCE UNCE UNCE UNCE
>>6206118
>>mfw all of my money is the spare change I keep in my car
>>mfw the last meal I paid for was in quarters
>that's gonna be a little difficult...
hmm that sounds tricky... honestly I'm not sure if you can get it otc anyway
do your parents have alcohol? do a shot or two before you start, that should deaden the pain lol
>>6206126
yea, and even lots of ethnic cultures' cuisine has the same kind of feedback. a decent amount of african and south asian cuisines only exist because of crop and spice migration
whatever tho. in the end, it's just one of those non-issues that sjw's like to whine whine about for no reason
>>6206149
well they do complain about that. luckily sjw's have very little real influence over the world
>>6206127
I look like a girl apparently but just a cute femboy desu
>>6206146
find a higher purpose in life than picking apart your appearance day in, day out. rain sleet or shine
new years through to christmas
>>6206164
>and put more time into escapism.
first of all that's never the answer
second, posting is literally escapism.
Also, whenever you put hearts and stuff can't help but imagine you being like pic related.
>>6206169
Dude what? The NHS will not in a million years give you ffs you need to go private. Don't need their approval.
>>6206153
oh hey now cmon.
:c
<3
>>6206167
If boys can get cute butts you can too, do some squats!
>>6206164
>I probably should like, post less and put more time into escapism
stop saying thatt. everyone needs a way to let out their troubles
>>6206169
>plus NHS will want me to go fulltime asap
that really sucks... you can't keep pushing it and pushing it? you can't explain that you'd rather wait a bit to see more changes before making everyone's first impression just the old you but in a dress? because looking like a girl doesn't mean you have disphoria, your apearance is unrelated to it. it does match in some cases but those are different genes.
>>6206172
Only one is qt, he likes anime and memes.
>>6206173
>me
>female voice
ha ha ha ha
I think it hurts because im not used to talking at all and it gets a bit deeper sometimes ;_;
>>6206190
>tfw you feel your voice in your chest sometimes
just kill me
>>6206143
i dont know that feel ;~;
>tfw boy butte
unsee cc/ziramesu/
>>6206164
only for (You) bb <3 and do w/e helps you cope better ^-^
>>6206175
i wanna know what that feels like :<
>>6206093
Just came out to mom and it went great AMA
im on cloud nine tbqh
>>6206174
I don't usually like or even get your taste in music but that song was glorious. Even if it wasn't about a lucky guy with a big dick, musically great.
>>6206195
Sounds like a prize catch, marry him asap.
>>6206195
mmm i wish i knew what could help. I dont know.
May I hear just how deep? its okay if not..
just in case its not as bad as you perceive
>>6206183
>posting is literally escapism.
but I dont escape, I talk about things that bother me ;~;
>Also, whenever you put hearts and stuff can't help but imagine you being like pic related.
>tfw found out!
>>6206193
yeah but Ive done this excessively recently
>>6206164
>steals my yuri
https://twitter.com/AceYuriBot
>>6206174
UKHardcore was appropriated by the british after the Aussies created Happy Hardcore. REEEEE BRITBONGS!!!
>>6206175
>do your parents have alcohol
yes, but I have an alcohol complex
>>6206175
luckily sjw's have the musical tastes and curiosity of a mosquito, so they don't even know what's influencing what
>>6206191
ok!
>squats
>buttkicks
>adding protein to my incredibly carb-heavy diet
>woo!
>>6206188
>Don't need their approval.
but she needs the money to appear at some point.
>>6206208
>steals my yuri
>tfw caught
I-Id never do that!
>>6206198
(you) <3
I am trying ;~;
>>6206198
>unsee cc/ziramesu/
deleted ;;
>>6206188
well it's good I don't need a letter or whatever, then, that's good news...
idk a couple of folks have said if you get lucky and emphasise how vital to your wellbeing it is you can get them to fund pretty much anything, even stuff as frivolous boob-jobs (which I'm not looking to get)
of course even if that's the case it's unlikely they'd let me go to Belgium for that then
but idk
I'm just looking for hope right now, I've been hit by so much at once recently and I don't even have a support network to talk it out with apart from here, which is dreadfully unhealthy
it's hard doing all this stuff alone
>>6206180
I have other things I want to do and other things I HAVE to do, but the dysphoria ruins my focus and my enjoyment of anything I do for fun. idk how to make it leave my mind so I can concentrate on other things.
>>6206203
I'm not cool enough for him.
>>6206204
Sounds like a handsome 30 years old man voice.
My throat is ded ;-;
>>6206198
>i wanna know what that feels like :<
it's awful ;-; why don't people see me as the man I am?
>>6206206
>yeah but Ive done this excessively recently
yea because you've been needing it more often.
>>6206208
>alcohol complex
like used to abuse it?
>luckily sjw's have the musical tastes and curiosity of a mosquito, so they don't even know what's influencing what
they're like that with all aspects of all the cultures they """defend"""
>>6206221
It's actually reasonably common to get boob jobs on the NHS, but only if you have had no growth in x amount of years or they're horribly misshapen. Ffs is pretty much unheard of.
>>6206223
>but you don't do it in a healthy way
frightenly accurate
>>6206227
>yea because you've been needing it more often.
unfortunately thats true ;-;
>>6206225
But you're the coolest person I know Lain.
>>6206221
do you get any therapy specifically for that issue?
We've spoken before and i've just had my own first therapy session with the nhs for my anxieties and life consuming problems i won't go into again.
is there no chance you can get the nhs to supplement your treatments with some therapy for this specific issue? is there any way? its eating up your life you just said it. you can't go on like this :'/
>>6206218
i got your back either way lil sis ~ I think about you alot you know. ik you think ur weak but I see you as an inspiration. despite so much coming against you, you're still here hanging on being a lovely girl inside and out. I know you can be a bit manipulative but that doesn't make u any less beautiful. like guuurl your inner light is so bright it's nearly blinding. heck I picture it as a fire on the inside that I'm happy to kindle from time to time when it gets a bit low <3 keep being u. that's more than enough to keep me smiling and loving u ^-^
>>6206220
just for (You) puru
unsee cc/pugitane
>>6204911
oh shit I didn't notice the second half of this post
that's useful, cheers
are they less gatekeeper-y than the NHS or the same? I know private services share a lot of the same staff
>>6206230
why are boob jobs more common than ffs? We have a ton of trannies here with pretty awesome natural looking boob jobs and the face of a man. While would you want to be partially a sex fantasy and partially a hon? Don't they know that flat is justice?
>>6206221
I hope you know there are some girls here that feel more or less in the same boat as you and don't aim to make fun and stuff. People are dicks to everyone, even if you get it harder than most...
>>6206201
It's hard to go wrong with classic Trax, house music got its start for a reason. I'll admit though that my taste in music is normally baffling, blame the drugs desu.
>>6206208
REEEEE
>>6206164
You don't have to apologize for anything, people post their feels here for a reason. It's sort of its own form of escapism, although I'd say facing problems is more productive in the long run than escapism
>>6206237
>unsee cc/pugitane
Ahhh I'm jelly of those undies. Also nice butte
>>6206223
>tfw these people always make me laugh but i'm a degenerate tranny and have to use my man voice
:(
>>6206233
Thanks but i'm a retarded hon confirmed by anon.
>>6206194
I mean, my first appointment isn't gonna be for at least a year probably but I want to have FFS before I go fulltime because it's the only way I'm not going to go full autism-supernova.
>>6206232
>frightenly accurate
you're easy to relate, I guess. 4chan is my worst escapism because I have the false feeling that I'm socializing and doing something with my life without the usual happyness that comes from being with people irl.
I've gotta go for a bit, I'll be back in a few hours
>>6206227
>abuse it
no, like, I think it's disgusting and the smell makes me want to throw up
>"""defend"""
I mean, they don't step in, so they're either ignorant or too dumb to notice
>>6206218
ofc not, noooooooo
>>6206240
and then the japanese appropriated gabber and hardtek to make and speedcore!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
then they did it again with ukhardcore to make j-core!!! have they no respect for musical culture???? REEEEEEE
>>6206239
Because the system is sexist and dumb. Boobs are seen as more essential to being a woman than a pretty face.
Why does 4chan/nerd communities in general have a higher percentage of trans women than would be expected by chance?
>>6206232
>unfortunately thats true ;-;
so don't feel like you have to stop. none of us can truly solve your problems, but we can at least try to cheer you up
>>6206251
Autism masquerading as dysphoria.
>>6206251
because a place where you can avoid any kind of identification attracts people with issues with their identity. much better than going the full hon route and pretend you're a girl in chatrooms (which I did in the 90's)
>>6206235
I've asked to be referred to a psych about my mental health issues in general
My GP thinks a lot of my problems are caused by Aspergers and not having the proper support for that growing up so I'm getting an autism screening done in a week or so. I just want to be able to talk my feelings out but the way the NHS operates they only like referring you for very specific reasons to an appointment it seems. hopefully when I'm there I can bring up the less autism-related issues I feel I have and get whoever's screening me to refer me on to their colleagues in the same place.
>>6206239
I hope so
I keep telling myself I can't be one of the only ones who has it this bad but I feel kind of alone in my situation even in trans spaces like this
>>6206249
>no, like, I think it's disgusting and the smell makes me want to throw up
ahhhh
try frozen fruity margaritas lol. they're dangerous how little you can smell/taste it
for real tho, I hope you get some cash soon. sounds like a struggle what you're dealing with now :\
>>6206251
video games and other nerd stuff make great escapism
>>6206251
Because effeminate repressed trans girls are more likely to be nerds and habitual escapists. I don't think I'm the only one here that buried feelings of wanting to be a girl with video games, computers and school.
>>6206251
Anonymity
>>6206262
The reason you feel alone here is because you are not trans.
>tfw girl voice sounds faggy af
voicespice com/Player.aspx?
c=p&h=62367643&j=200F4
>>6206262
You were brave enough to show your face while most of us remain anon. Brave and stupid, I guess.
I really wish things work out for you because that would mean they could do too for me. I wish I could trip.
>>6206274
It sounds a bit faggy, maybe because you're not breathing through your nose (as in, it sounds nasal). But you avoided the falsetto issue, I'd think you are around a decent tone.
>>6206237
be my kindle-assistant bby, I need it in rainy or stormy times <3
>>6206240
okay! <3
>>6206247
>you're easy to relate, I guess.
i-is that a good thing?
>without the usual happyness that comes from being with people irl.
I cant relate to that part at all, at least on 4chan, I am only judged for things I choose to be judged for
>>6206252
thats really nice :3
thank you!
>>6206267
>I don't think I'm the only one here that buried feelings of wanting to be a girl with video games, computers and school.
this is essentially my vita as well. until alcohol at least.
>>6206274
>tfw man voice sounds faggy
>tfw girl voice sounds manly
>>6206274
That's a top kek
>>6206274
Sounds pretty good to me.
>>6206282
ofc bb rain or sunshine I'm here to stoke the flames and keep you smiling when it's hard to do it on ur own ~ <3
>>6206272
nah
I feel alone everywhere
>>6206143
>Girlfriend didn't really ever comment on my butt pre-HRT/early HRT
>Now have a big round bubble-butt
>Girlfriend always slapping it and making comments like "this ass belongs to me" now
Feels good having dat badonkadonk
>>6206264
the thought of getting drunk is what makes me sick. I don't have a good history with the stuff, and I see no reason to drink at all. There isn't a single health benefit to it; at least psys and mdma can aide your mental health, and stimulants can help you get through life by suppressing feelings. Alcohol just ruins your life.
>>6206267
you're not the only one. The only reason I played League instead of starcraft/etc for so long was to have a release because I wanted to be Lux. I almost exclusively played females in MMOs, and the only reason I wasn't femshep in ME, was because I played it before I started repressing.
>>6206290
You should have been put down at birth. You don't deserve to live.
>>6206294
jesus christ someone cut this dudes throat
>>6206289
YOURE SO NICE ~ <3
>>6206291
>tfw no gf to bully my butt
;______________________;
>>6206296
It perplexes me that there's so many Nazi anime girl pictures
>>6206282
>thats really nice :3
>thank you!
:3 I think everyone deserves happiness. I feel happy trying to make people happy. even though I probably come across as an autistic sperg most of the time lol
>until alcohol at least.
god same
alcohol was a big part what part of what set me down the transition path. it killed my ability to repress.
>>6206292
>Alcohol just ruins your life
it kinda does. it's a shame it's the social drug of choice
I actually haven't drank in a few weeks. been feeling pretty good about that desu
>tfw ur a girl
: )
>>6206295
Hongie is hard to stop.
>>6206298
I believe in you anon. You can have a gf if you try. I'm ugly af, couldn't ever pass for an attractive woman, have a shitty receded hairline despite being young, etc. Like literally my only good features are my ass & tits have actually been developing quite nicely on HRT, and I didn't even have those when I found my gf. If I can have a gf so can you!
>tfw gf
: )
>>6206282
>i-is that a good thing?
The stutter is right for that question. I don't think it's good, but we all share similarities to the boat you're in.
>I cant relate to that part at all, at least on 4chan, I am only judged for things I choose to be judged for
I'm thinking more of dead name friends, if you have a group of people that don't dislike anything in particular about you the same kind of banter that you'd see in 4chan results in more fun. Just dropping your defenses in a safe place is great.
I find it really weird that you can't make friends, though. Not even in support groups or uni?
>>6206282
Alcohol for you, and drugs for me. Fun coping methods amirite? ;_;
>>6206292
Vidya repression healthiest repression
>>6206307
not talking about robin friend
>>6206282
>until alcohol at least.
I REALLY NEED A WEBM OF DRUNKED PHIENCHINE ASAP
also, we talked yesterday about pot. if alcohol can make you happy I'd say weed will work too. some people with heavy depression don't get any effect out of weed but alcohol gets them extra sad.
>>6206262
I wish you the best Robin, I really really really really really hope things start to turn around.
I dont even know if i have any advice to give.
I'm sorry.
>>6206305
idktf : (
>>6206310
I probably could if I went fulltime and actually did social stuff :^)
Only bully girls are good though
>>6206314
Fuck alcohol. Never again, until it happens again ;_;
>>6206318
I have this.
>>6206291
With my ex it was like
>early hrt
>regular hetero interactions
>add tits and butt
>constantly just put tits in her mouth out of nowhere
>if I bent over around her, I'm getting dry humped
>>6206314
I'm loving this, thank you so much for the rec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpO95I6e6cQ
tfw gf isn't cuddly enough
tfw deprived of cuddles
>>6206319
>>6206325
phienchien is hotter, even when puking. at least in my mind vaguely based on a pic I saw a long time ago
>>6206318
>depression
>weed
>alcohol
Ayyy lmao. You need opiates to properly fight the worst of feels. Either that or psychedelics can help you learn to handle your problems which is good if the depression isn't caused by chemical imbalances.
>>6206331
I never want to become this.
Robin gives me motivation to fix myself.
>>6206335
A lot of people with depression drink abusive amounts of alcohol, but the results are rarely happiness. Just numbness. If alcohol makes you feel good then weed will too, with less side effects.
In any case limited action things aren't fighting, maybe just a quick battle but in the long run you were having skirmishes while losing all your land.
this is what all of you should shoot for
>>6206335
opiates don't last nearly long enough and their use becomes a problem so quickly
>>6206352
Nothing but I know what will fix me ;)
How do I even into girl voice, I don't think my manly resonant voice could ever end up sounding like a cute girl :(
>>6206357
You have to be choking on a dick.
>be in class
>teacher gives discussion question
>talk with group of grad students
>tell them how I'd solve it
>they tell me It can't be done
>they write a two line answer on the board
>go up myself
>fill a chalkboard full of calculus and statistics
>everyone looks blankly
>explain it to teacher
>he's right!
And that's how I got misgendered for knowing math
>
i wanna succ a dicc
>>6206359
>>6206357
I dunno how to fix resonant either, I can only get my voice high.
>>6206359
Tried that :/
>>6206357
voice training works, its just embarrassing and arduous
also good afternoon ladies
>>6206314
>Alcohol for you, and drugs for me. Fun coping methods amirite? ;_;
god Id KILL for approval to do either again. Like, you have no idea.
>tfw bf is super close to straight edge
>>6206312
its a timing thing, Id have to get into contact with a seller irl. I have an acquaintance that defo has access in this city, but he probably could get everything else as well. and if we re honest, I cant really trust myself to not go for benzos or opiates as well. Ill have to be really careful about what Id do.
>I find it really weird that you can't make friends,
I probably could, people tend to like me, but I dont really want to. its stressful to have to meet people regularly, and normies are way more work than transpeople as well. and I dont connect with cisgrills, and boys I dont really want to meet.
>>6206318
oh god lol
luckily that doesnt exist.
>>6206301
theyre the best!
>>6206302
it did the exact opposite for me, I used it to repress for 6 years.
>>6206332
I wish that was true anon.
>>6206328
I'm glad you're liking it. Oldschool house music has so much soul to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFtYHbjF5hc
They honestly don't make it like they used to.
>>6206368
kayla ur a good tomato desu
>>6206360
totally wasnt your voice or anything lol
>>6206360
you just can't win!
has anyone else noticed that their skin has gotten super sensitive after starting hormones? i cant shave my legs without them getting super prickly now, my butt is full of red marks and i don't even shave it and i have developed keratosis pilaris on my arms omfg
>>6206368
Fuck off autismo. I hope your mother poisons you.
>>6206363
me too famalam me too heck I just wanna know what it's like to kiss a boy
>>6206381
i thought you had a gf
>>6206381
Plenty of gay men out there
H-how to fix voice when it sounds manly when its high? ;_;
>>6206298
>tfw no gf
>tfw no butt
>>6206378
>keratosis pilaris
THAT WAS THE NAME FOR THAT SHIT
>>6206381
if i were out there i'd kiss ya
>>6206378
yeah. I get cuts and bruises waaaaaay more easily before I started hrt. shit suxxxx. that brown mark on my hand is an oil burn from over a month ago :/
>>6206378
yeah my kp got worse on my arms and shoulders after starting, apparently it does that
always had extremely sensitive skin though so can't say if that changes
>>6206368
Kayla not understanding she has voice privilege and using it to give false hope to people who will never voice pass
https://clyp.it/rcbverhf
poop
>>6206319
thanks ;-;
>>6206398
>insert pseudo racist joke about all your skin being a brown mark
>>6206373
Hey meanie
https://clyp.it/ruq3ohqt
>>6206389
plz help ;_;
>>6206402
shit sucks like my skin is looking so bad its making me legit depressed
>>6206403
you sound like an action hero!!
Did you got to the army just because you sounded fit for it? Did they do an interview over the phone and then felt cheated when they saw you?
>>6206370
>it did the exact opposite for me, I used it to repress for 6 years.
ohh yikes.
idk I guess in my case when I started drinking I'd get all depressed and think about how little purpose/direction I had in life and how dissatisfied I was. which scared me because I didn't want to become an alcoholic. so I decided to try to fix my problems
I've never done other drugs tho ;-;
>>6206384
broke up
>>6206387
too uggo for gay men friend. I get dumped on irl as much as I do here so no luck there
>>6206396
t-thanks anon. . .
>>6206415
>this bullshit again
i already know you sound like a dude
>>6206371
How do you feel about Faithless?
>>6206423
kill yourself agp nigger
>>6206409
>not having the strength to bother anymore
>>6206431
But even at 200hz I sound male, how do I fix that?
>>6206423
>too ugly for gay men
No such thing. Gay men are the absolute scum of the earth and have no standards.
>>6206442
>have been hit on by multiple gay men
The problem is not many of them look good.
>>6206437
I don't get this hertz stuff, I don't know when it became some magical law of passing. the range of female voices is pretty wide.
>>6206437
You sound like a girl but you are too stupid to realise it.
>200hz
>no chest resonance
Fuck off you cunt.
>>6206449
this. I register at 250hz and my voice is super off, lmao
>>6206446
You hope my mother poisons me first? What the fuck bro.
>>6206452
what if you have an internal ear problem and never hear voices like they really are? that must suck...
>>6206459
wanna know what else sucks? ;)
>>6206442
well gay gen called me ugly af and told me to fuck off and irl ive never been hit on so I'm sol.
I'm hoping it changes after transition otherwise I'll just collect cats
>>6206458
Well you said it to me you mean man.
>>6206464
Can you stop attacking me please this is uncalled for.
>>6206426
Very much of their time, big anthem house and sort of the precursors to the trance boom of the late 90s. I don't listen to them a lot but I certainly like Insomnia. If there were an artist from then or slightly after that I'd be more likely to listen to it would probably be Sasha, Xpander is pretty top-tier as far as 90s trance goes.
Do you listen to a lot of oldschool stuff?
>>6206452
It sounds boyish though I think.
>>6206466
How to fix?
>>6206468
Persecution anon is my new favorite troll.
It's like shakira with less chances of real drama.
>>6206463
>gay gen called me ugly af and told me to fuck off
Thanks for the keks.
>>6206466
how to fix resonance though
my voice pitch is naturally in andro range according to all the apps and stuff
but as anyone who's heard my voice can tell, my resonance, inflection and diction are completely off (albeit diction being due to hypotonia)
>>6206470
Pastebin in the OP helped a lot for me, the whole tip about holding your chest to feel for resonance to reduce that as much as possible. Once you naturally remove that boy voice is pretty much gone.
...It's started to get to the point where when I boyvoice people laugh cause I now sound like a girl trying to sound like a guy.
today i was interview ready!
how is everyone doing?
>>6206480
I only get chest voice when I talk a lot.
Still sounds male imo
>>6206469
Not really, at the early 2000's they had a pretty pop single (Mass Destruction) and I hot the album thinking it would be more like that, I was pleasantly surprised but never really had the means to find what other bands I would like. Almost every album they did has a few tracks I love, though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdBvluNI6xc
>>6206482
you look great hon
xoxoxo
>>6206483
Thank you I love you
>>6206463
In HS two gay guys hitted on me and they were disgusting so even if I hadn't been repressing I wouldn't touch their autistic asses with a ten foot pollack.
Not being hit by disgusting people is better than dealing with them.
>>6206480
>It's started to get to the point where when I boyvoice people laugh cause I now sound like a girl trying to sound like a guy.
Well now... that's a goal to strive for.
I mean... did your laugh change? I don't sound good when laughing...
Currently I've got on as many songs as possible and I'm trying to sing them in as well as I possibly can, getting the pitch higher each time. Just to get me comfortable changing my voice. I'll try changing the resonance later, but I've no idea how I'm going to go about it.
Never thought I'd say this but I'm looking forward to attending Monday night Raw this evening
>>6206482
Where were you being interviewed for?
>>6206466
>Resonance is the real thing to focus on tbdesu.
my throat is certified to be genetically defect. it doesnt stop the aircirculation the way its supposed to, so Ive to apply way more pressure to get sound out
>>6206467
I dont register anywhere near male range. I permanently sound sick-ish or something though. my sister has a similar problem but registers even higher, at around 300-350 hz
have talked to 3 speech therapists and a mouth surgeon, they say its unfixable. Idk though, I think it might be, I just dont know how.
>>6206482
>white panty hose
>horrid skirt that makes you look like you have no ass
>cream colored mary jane pumps
>ratty wig
you look like shit, being honest
>>6206490
I love you too :3
What's up cooks ?
>>6206378
Not exactly sensitive to harm, but I have gotten super sensitive to touch. Like some parts of my body can't be touched without me writhing and squealing.
>>6206466
articulation and word/phrase choice is arguably just as important. or is the second level
>>6206494
>I don't sound good when laughing...
>having a sincere laugh
>2016
>ever
>>6206505
>qt
You've gone too far now.
>>6206482
and you had the audacity to call me a hon
haha
>>6206424
I don't like the attention and have panic attacks doing girl voice I've posted both voices, but where's your supporting proof conspiracy hon anon?
>>6206482
>you will never be this girly
>>6206446
I'm not trolling, just because I payed a 12 year old girl to make some voice clips for me, doesn't mean I really have a girl voice, voice training is a meme
>>6206495
the only wrestler I'm currently into is Asuka. Did Nakamura start already?
When he's cumming but you keep sucking
>tfw you always see and hear yourself as male no matter what
;______;
Those of you not on HRT
How do you remove your body hair?
I use hair removal cream, it works pretty effectively and quickly
>>6206505
Weeeell...
Nah. I won't say it. It's mean. I'll put it this way, it's not your personality that needs work. You come across as a really sweet girl.
>>6206509
I'm a sadist. Sue me.
(there's nothing like seeing some dumbass trying to parkour up a 10ft wall and falling on their ass. Or droppin 5 feet onto a corrugated roof and plummeting through it.)
>>6206515
Pic related
>>6206483
What? No it shouldn't be from the chest, it should almost be from the nose area. What I'm saying though is if you put your hand on your chest flat and speak, it shouldn't feel like a subwoofer, that's where a lot of the bass in the male voice comes from is that reverberation.
>>6206480
>>6206479
Hadn't seen yours as well to reply to but yeah there.
>>6206494
Idk for me I had learned to change my voice to be deeper when I was repressing so it might partly be that once I got rid of doing that and removed a lot else I went back to my weird femme voice base and then up from there.
My problems right now are coughing and sneezing, but I've still been gendered female in public after a sneeze so I guess it's not horrendous. I had a girl scream up until I literally had to stop it while repressed, it's slowly coming back.
My laugh fluxuates between decent and sometimes it gets weird still if I'm too genuinely caught laughing.
One thing that also helped for strengthening a vocal range once I could do it at all was just, holding a note there for a bit and doing voice exercise that way.
>>6206497
I felt the same way at first, but if you keep trying it, it kinda 'clicks' one day, and it just makes sense. Some of the diagrams for what muscles to hold really helped me iirc.
>>6206508
Very much so. A lot of the subtleties of transition are generally overlooked but most people also call me weird when I say that word choice factors.
It's just as much as posture, movement/gait, so many things are just naturally slightly different.
>>6206514
H O N
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>>6206479
>apps and stuff
what apps, show me these tools, i beg you
>>6206506
fuck off cunt, there are enough hons in this thread already
>>6206505
fending off autistic people that are into you because you tolerate them speaking broken japanese is pretty ugly, not only you feel like a bitch but they scare away anyone who could be into you by asociation.
>>6206484
Oh wow, they definitely changed their sound around quite a lot when the 2000s rolled around. I might actually have to give this album a listen, I like soulful and slower breakbeat/hip-hop in bursts.
I wish I had more to recommend in this kind of style but it's not a style that I have a lot of, most of my late 90s/early 2000s stuff is breakbeat really ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6twhXA1Gyw
>>6206524
I can make my voice from around nose level but it still sounds male, that's what i'm saying.
If I talk a lot its harder to stay high though.
>>6206535
>tfw hugboxers say I look like a neet girl but all I see is a manly man
>>6206514
She looks like shit there but you look garbage 24/7 my man
>>6206530
Nah
>>6206515
lies, you are lying because even maddie said your voice is cis
>>6206535
they need to quit shoving reigns down everyones throat, I know they're trying to set up the new generation of elites but most everyone hates all of them
>>6206538
it figures elanna has shit taste in music on top of all her other foibles
>>6206530
>enough hons
>wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>>6206538
Teasing us with a 10% face shot. What the fuck Elanna?
>>6206522
So far, regular shaving. It hurts sometimes but it's worth it.
>>6206524
>I had a girl scream
Uhhh... Well then. I yell rather than scream. I trained myself not to because I got teased for it.
It was also really shrill and made my ears hurt... I don't think I'll be trying to go back to it.
So far, I remember something in choir training about resonance, but I can't remember the tip, and so far, trying to sound like I did back then has given me the worse cough I've had in a while
.>>6206549
>shit taste in music
I'm literally listening to Super Eurobeat right now while I give my voice a break.
If you're going to criticise anyone, criticise me!
>>6206510
what did I do wrong? 3:
>>6206521
iktf ;~;
>>6206523
just say it pls I won't mind w/e it is
>>6206531
well it's more the notion that another human bean finding me attractive at all that's the pet id blush about and like. the other stuff. . . . well maybe not so much. I mean I am a massive weeb so that stuff wouldn't be as big a bother to me.
>>6206529
I just searched for "voice pitch analyser" on my phone's app store and chose the one with a tranny symbol as the icon senpai
>>6206524
>I felt the same way at first, but if you keep trying it
my velum palatinum is too short physically. practice is not going to change this. thanks for trying to help though :3
>>6206551
this board is sfw. can't be posting traumatizing shit here
>>6206551
Sorry ;~;
>>6206549
>not understanding that taste is subjective
How neckbearded of you
>>6206093
Yo yo yo, beautiful women of mtfg, once again, the best man to understand, to make you happy and to hold your hand is here in the house.
Where the fine ladies at?
>>6206556
>tranny symbol
kek
>>6206545
So did Edie l, but they're just trying to meme you
Also maddie x Cyba is soooooo cute omg
>>6206542
How about you stop talking then? You're insecure, maybe shy so act like it, don't take and when you do whisper and mumble
>>6206548
Jericho has been abysmal for 5 years now
Got an insufferable undeserved ego too
>>6206546
There were 70/30 Reigns/AJ chants last week
Some people like the man, he's cool and that's all we want
>>6206554
>shaving
I recommend hair removal cream, it's faster, easier and can yield equal results
>>6206538
are you talking about the mass destruction single? not only do they never repeat that style but the extended version has nothing to do with that cut. It was a hit so the guy in charge of mastering new how to get the moneyz I guess. But the singer did get much more space as time went on, I'm cool with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65EfTFUFDwI
>>6206554
sirona, i hope you pass better than elanna because otherwise you have literally nothing going for you
>>6206558
imma you with lots of head pats cuddles and kisses! >:3
>>6206542
But like, when you put your hand on your chest and talk while in the more nose voice, does you clearly feel it in your hand? Like, when I started, I could feel it in every finger and my palm, and reduced it down to just my palm.
>>6206554
Yeah I used to have that problem of getting teased for it which was why I changed it. Don't strain it working on it though.
>>6206558
Oh, okay then x.x Yeah I didn't realize my mistake.
>>6206563
Hi Spartan. Feeling better?
>>6206542
>>tfw hugboxers say I look like a neet girl but all I see is a manly man
weren't you just fat? that can be fixed unless it's in your genes, then you'll have to be a fat girl.
>>6206548
>Nakamura is on NXT right now
Then I have no reasson to move out of it.
>>6206565
>but they're just trying to meme you
honestly I don't care, it would be nice if you didn't fucking lie about everything
>>6206555
>just say it pls I won't mind w/e it is
Your hair. Please let your hair down. every picture I've seen of you, you've had it frizzy, or gelled or something and it just... It doesn't work for you as a boy or a girl.
I do hope I'm remembering them right, but I'm really tired so I'm sorry if I'm providing the wrong (hopefully constructive) criticism
>>6206559
Pic related?
>>6206566
>I recommend hair removal cream
Harder to get here. I'll be ordering some if I ever manage to get the cash together.
>>6206569
Is that a jibe at my taste in music, my personality, or my taste in hobbies?
And no, I don't even slightly pass, no matter how many people mis-gender me. (I'm not even on HRT yet, come on! 0_o)
>>6206580
That's pretty fucking rich coming from you
wow that's a lot of anger. idk, 2 of my cis girl friends helped me pick the stuff out, and they showed me pictures of them in pretty similar stuff. so i mean, ok?
>>6206496
hotel receptionist!
>>6206500
actually, the tights are cream, and the shoes are white and they have heels. i DON'T have an ass, lmao. (and it's not a wig) why is not having an ass such a crime?
>>6206504
tbhon the white shoes were like, the only ones i could find at short notice to fit my clownfeet. but i also wanted them for other things, and i could always wear black tights with those instead, you know?
>>6206511
i always look forward to your posts, chin-anon.
>>6206514
you are and will always be an ugly fetishist, eliot. inside and out. i can't even bring myself to pity you. you're foul.
>>6206524
>Very much so. A lot of the subtleties of transition are generally overlooked but most people also call me weird when I say that word choice factors
I saw a ted talk when I was learning german, where the guy talked about sets of words and sounds that are commonly used together (there's a single word he used but I don't remember what it was). he said those are the real building blocks of language in the brain, and that they are something which separates native/truly fluent speakers from less learned ones. it was just interesting because he talked about how they vary across gender, which has made me hyper aware of it. at least in spoken words. I think I still type like a man
>>6206562
taste may be subjective, but that doesn't mean you're not all around shit tier.
>>6206555
>I mean I am a massive weeb so that stuff wouldn't be as big a bother to me.
Imagine someone entering a classroom in HS saying ohaio gosaimasu and acting like an animu teen girl, getting too close to your personal space to the point you feel their breathing on your skin and almost can see the grease comming out of their skin.
>>6206566
But I like talking to people but I hate sounding manly ;_;
>>6206573
I dunno, would have to try it.
>>6206577
I am yeah, it's my biggest issue with passing ;-;
Makes my face look really male.
>>6206581
>Harder to get here. I'll be ordering some if I ever manage to get the cash together.
Where do you live?
I use "Nad's" for reference and it does a good job, stinks though
