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previous thread >>6186585
Is it AGP to like cool swords?
my tits really hurt and I wish they wouldn't :c
So tell me, anon. What is it about swords that you find so fascinating?
>>6187623
my tits havent hurted for a while and i wish they would
>>6187616
is that a fucking halberd under cool ass SWORDS
holy shit people are dumb
>>6187623
but that means they are growing, I am going though another painful spurt myself
>>6187623
let me suckle on them
>>6187616
Nope. The same applies to guns or any weapons.
>>6187624
i want to bifurcate someone with one
>>6187623
quit eating or stop estrogen :p
Daily reminder that you should vote Trump.
The only one I would miss is Jackson.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10201183/
keep in mind that I look worse irl than I do in pics
I'm finding it harder and harder to find a logical argument as to why I shouldn't kill myself that isn't just the person saying it protecting their own feelings
>>6187614
>are you good with your tongue
f-for you
>>6187625
>>6187628
But it hurts and I keep brushing stuff I carry against them because I am not used to it and it makes me very irritable.
>>6187630
N O
>>6187600
should have said that I "knew" them
>>6187616
all of those look like shit
>>6187614
I've only worn boxers as pajama shorts since I stopped repressing. I'll probably toss 'em once I get actual pajamas.
Oh, what can you do to prevent the red dots from coming up when you epilate?
>>6187637
And why is that?
>>6187619
B-but I love my daughter, just not in that way ;___;
>>6187603
Idk, when Shakespeare wanted to do a play about romance it was generally done as a comedy. Much ado about nothing is far more a romantic play than Romeo and Juliet could have hoped to be, same for a midsummer night's dream.
>>6187632
What about tanks?
I really like my tanks.
KV-2 Stronk Russian Tonk...
Interesting fact, the TOG II tank was so big, you could host a tea party in it!
>>6187640
>carlos mencia
>celeberties
Hey guys, I sure love living in 2006!
I felt like saying hi today. So Hi.
>>6187616
Good morning, friends! How is everyone doing?
>Is it AGP to like cool swords?
It is definitely weird and kind of cringey.
>>6187623
I wish mine hurt, that would mean they are still growing.
>>6187632
Guns are much more practical, specially for people that live in shitty places.
>>6187640
Not voting for Trump. He instigates a bit too much anti-immigrant prejudice for my taste.
>>6187645
>But it hurts and I keep brushing stuff I carry against them because I am not used to it and it makes me very irritable.
I envy you
>>6187616
>Is it AGP to like cool swords?
Only if you have a cool sword as your genitals
>>6187648
exfoliate
buy a salux or loofah or something and just scrub
>>6187645
you will get used to living with boobs, when I first was getting mine I kept bashing them into doors but now I stopped
>>6187650
it seems fun
Where is the best place to buy medicine online?
>>6187616
As part of my job, I've actually seen a flintlock hunting swordgun in use. Crazy German hunter who insisted on using that to deal the killing blow on boars.
>>6187655
hearing damage is not practical
its not practical to try to put earplugs in when youre getting mugged
the most practical modern defense would be to learn how to fight with a knife against objects, other knives and bare hands
>>6187645
I know that feel well. Lightly padded bras are a godsend - putting just a bit of cushion between your boobs and everything hard in the environment that strives to hurt them can make life much better than it might otherwise be.
>>6187666
>schliefenplan was an inside job
lmao
lilly I love you, im crying rn
>>6187661
What about it seems fun? Please be specific, if you can.
>>6187667
>Bernie Zionist
FUCKING KEK. Too bad literally every other politician has sucked the cock of Israel harder than Bernie Sanders ever has. There has never been a politician that has spoken out about the pains of Palestine.
Anyways, stfu Red you suck.
>>6187640
no that only works in Holland (which is German, but not part of Germany)
>>6187671
This was literally his I outed myself at work :/
Who /fantasizing intensely about dying because it's the only thing that calms you down/ here? I want it all to be over already.
>>6187676
Now this I want to hear...
>>6187624
the intricacies of steel are fascinating
the thought and design that go into these pieces of steel and making them artfully effective at old warfare is fascinating
the systems behind using these pieces of steel are fascinating
the way different shapes allow you to take advantage of geometry and biomechanics are fascinating
the fact that there were organized systems that turned killing each other into a complicated art you could become a master at
is fascinating
the workmanship and knowledge that goes into making a real weapon is beautiful
real weapons are art born of craftsmanship, understanding the body and understanding the material
its simply art
>>6187678
Robin, you're depressed and you're not thinking clearly right now. Go to sleep or something.
>>6187655
Look Trump is the best bet. I have been doing tons of research on everything recently.
The government has been taken by globalist and they created a strawman for you that they use to extract wealth from you using what is called admiralty law. Ever notice when you go into a court room that the flaw of the UNITED STATES has a gold trim? That is because it is a maritime court.
It turns out you don't need to pay taxes or have a drivers licenses if you say you are traveling to a cop.
>>6187675
poor sis, they have away half your country to polocks and mongols. East Purssia is German!
>>6187674
it was merely a joke, my friend
please disregard my shitpost.
Hi party people
I'm really lonely, i should leave the house and do errands but i think the anxiety might be a bit too much today
How're you /mtfg/?
>>6187620
kayla you are L I T E R A L L Y a retard. going around using autism to ad hom people doesn't change the fact that you jump on the most piss poor excuses to peddle woe-is-me stories about how you're always more hard done by than other people, and how much more tru-trans you are because "muh swords trigger dysphoria over not being able to surgery rn"
it's so obvious what you're trying to do with your point-scoring and grabs for attention and a pity party, only for you to turn around and slag people off for calling you out on your bullshit, resort to name calling, and putting down people who by your own admission are worse off than you simply because they make you feel better.
if the surgeon manages to mishandle a scalpel to the point of stabbing you with a tool for cutting incisions, props to them. you deserve it.
>>6187673
the competitive nature of a fight with weapons is compelling
the art that can be created out of outsmarting someone is beautiful and engaging
the same reason people play games
also im violent
>>6187616
that's dangerous
>>6187688
Rekt lol
>>6187673
I w-want to s-stick things in people
>>6187695
also, you don't know what satire is.
>>6187674
also I don't suck!!!
ahahhahahsbgfasbfafhgyubauisfj
>>6187688
SHIT NIGGA
DAAAYYYYMN DIS GURL
She kno how it is
>>6187704
you suck HIV loaded cocks slut
>>6187696
It's going to get better, I promise you.
Things look bad at the moment, but you're going to get through it. Finish uni and go and relax and you'll realise that you're not doomed at all
>>6187684
"if voting made any difference, they wouldn't let us do it." - mark twain
i need to eat something. i'll be right back
>>6187678
I lay in bed and have suicidal fantasies every night this week. For some weird reason it does help
>>6187678
I have even started having very intense visualizations of me killing myself over and over again. Like practice in my brain.
>>6187638
Heeeyyyyyy beeps
>gives look that doesn't imply any want to kiss lightly in a totally platonic way
>>6187699
>>6187690
>>6187681
Hmm, interesting.
Now, I would like for you to describe to me your relationship with your mother.
>>6187707
End this meme!!!!
sal is as salty as a salt lick
>>6187695
its satire duh, why else would I be on 4chan? You know a sign of autism is not understanding satire or sarcasm, get yourself checked.
>>6187695
vid.me/86wl
:3333
It's me
>>6187705
Sammeeeeeee 2 more months until 3rd tranniversary
>>6187717
Gud recovery lol
>>6187705
see it's true, hrt makes you a whole lot more confident
>>6187717
Kayla, just slink off quietly. You got rekt and everyone knows she's right.
>>6187624
oh I don't rlly care about swords per-se, I just like art and aesthetic design whether it's a bowl or a weapon or whateves
>>6187721
beep my legs are quaking from the awesomeness
>>6187694
Poor thing ;_:
Enjoy your unlimited speed freeway until they ban the hole fucking thing.
God, I kind of want to play eu4 now as prussia and make europe great again.
>tfw part german
I am still proud of the other crap I am except maybe the jewish blood.
>>6187709
Look aspie(all transgirls are at least mildly autistic) the government enslaved us with a strawman and legalnese.
https://youtu.be/8rGyqDkqSXI
They also gave you vacs and made you autistic so they could control you. I believe they also made you trans too. All those chem trails they drop from plans to passivity you too.
>>6187668
A few unprotected shots that will likely never be needed is better than risking my life with hand to hand combat, not to mention you don't bring knives to gun fights.
>>6187684
I still don't really like his rhetoric. There might be some issues he is right about, but as a whole I'm not buying what he is selling.
>>6187703
I've been wanting to get a gun since last year, but I don't really wear a lot of clothes that are baggy enough to conceal one, and I'm not going to buy one just to leave at home.
>>6187728
>tfw want to share the poo on toast meme with my irl friends
>can't because then they will find out I browse mtfg
>>6187708
But that's part of the problem, I can't relax after uni
One week after my last exam my dorm lease runs out and I have to have found a job and a place to live and then I have to desperately try and earn enough to support myself because my disabilitybux application interview isn't gonna be for a few months at least. from here on in there's no stopping 'til I retire in my 70s or die either of old age, or sooner from incompetency or suicide.
>>6187696
Hmm. They're not my favourite, by far, but Hammock's album "Departure Songs" can be really good to fall into a melancholy sleep over.
>>6187737
thats okay, when I am Reichsprinzessin Ill make Europe great again
GUNSHIP MENTALITY WHEN
rate me
>>6187728
please don't ruin my anime face
>>6187715
stupid faggot bitch
>>6187710
there's comfort in imagining there's only minutes before you'll never feel pain or sadness again
>>6187737
tin foil hat detected
>>6187648
Exfoliate and keep epilating. Once you do it for long enough your skin won't get as irritated.
>>6187739
>a few unprotected shots
you have no fucking idea
ive been shot at, and have had to shoot at, someone, and i wouldve much prefered to beat their ass when i had the chance instead of letting myself get tinnitus and lose the ability to enjoy music.
no weapon is best, they teach you how to handle things unarmed for a reason
>>6187745
I'd take a test ride
>>6187658
ah. I'll have to give that a shot when I have money.
>>6187667
>>6187663
>anime or die
there were some people talking about this about two threads ago, you might be able to dig back for it
>>6187751
but it hurts so fucking bad ;~; I almost finished one leg but it's too painful
>>6187737
Sovereign citizens are fucking loony
>>6187648
I don't epilate, i don't get why everyone here does. I used to wax, now i laser
>>6187740
Didn't know about this meme. However, poo on toast can actually be a delicacy. Some hunters spitroast woodcocks without gutting them and collect the shit and fat that drips from the birds on toast to eat it.
>>6187742
shit, I didn't realise it was that soon.
Okay look, do you think your dad would use that money to support you with rent? Also, could you even get a shitty job like working at asda with your problems?
>>6187744
Funny enough I normally play Portugal, Castile or England.
All basically easy mode. I never really played a hard ground game in Europe. Sure I played Austria, but that was easy. I bet forming Prussia would be hard as fuck.
>>6187757
I know silly, but people fall for my shitty trolls some times. I really tried to force it this time which is why too many people didn't take the bait.
>>6187752
I don't know I shot a gun once without ear protection and I'm still okay, not to mention going to quite a few ridiculously loud shows with no ear protection. I'll acknowledge I'm not the most knowledgeable person on the subject, but I would rather have a gun as some kind of insurance than not. I kind of also want to exercise my right as an American since I wasn't one that long ago.
>>6187766
I always played prussia in total war......
>>6187720
gunswords and the like are always silly amazing fun
>>6187742
Daddy's coming
>>6187771
gah!
That's really unaesthetic
>>6187766
>I bet forming Prussia would be hard as fuck.
no its easy. you literally have space marines beyond like 1550 or something. and by that I mean 20k prussians beat 80k ottos.
Brandenburg is pretty easy, just ally the emperor and expand slowly, probably can even ally Poland as well. if you play TO you just need to have a strong alliance and military focus. if you survive the first war, you win.
really hard is reaching empire level with trebizond (probably hardest that I ever played) or making Byzantium great again (mostly cause of polands terrible AI)
>>6187711
Olivia I think you're funny and pretty so don't do anything dumb please.
>>6187745
my type
location?
Soooo. Still wondering where you guys buy your meds from?
I'm trying to order finasteride right now. Inhouse pharmacy was strongly recommended to me but now they require a script. Where can I buy finasteride online? It will be another 2 months before my doctor is gonna write me a script for it. I need it ASAP my hairline is receding faster than ever
>>6187755
It hurts less the more you do it, but epilating still hurts like a motherfucker. Once you've been on hormones for long enough you can probably switch to shaving at least.
>>6187771
>flanged mace pistol
thats fucking beautiful
>>6187711
I really wanna be able to pull twice, i think it'd be funny
>>6187750
>>6187737
i mean seriously, why would the government DELIBERATELY make people trans, all while the majority of politicians even today would rather not have ANYONE be trans. it make no sense
>>6187778
fin isn't a controlled substance, you should be able to buy it at a pharmacy or something
>>6187778
I use alldaychemist. When they ask for the prescription select the option to fax it later and continue. they never check to verify it and ship you ur meds.
On a side note, progesterone feels are real wtf even is this.
>mexican guy keeps sending me dicks pics
>mines bigger
>>6187779
I think I have two kinds of hair on my leg; thick black ones and softer fine ones. Not sure which are gonna go away with hrt.
>>6187790
Both go away with laser :3
>>6187755
salux cloths are like... $5 on amazon
and yea epilation hurts, is your epilator waterproof? it hurts less if you can do it in a warm shower
>>6187790
The thick ones. Your leg hair also will stop growing as fast. You won't get vellous hair on your legs but you'll probably end up with leg hair not too different from most cis women, and cis women rarely need epilators.
Takes pretty long though ;_;
>tfw there are no women who look like me
>tfw there aren't even any guys who look like me
>tfw no fucking idea what I should aim for w/ my hair, fashion etc. because I look fucking weird and I looked fucking weird as a guy too
>>6187778
I used to buy from both inhouse and alldaychemist. I think ADC carries finasteride.
They are both pretty good.
>>6187790
You'll probably see more lightening of darker hairs than anything. At least that's what I've heard most people say. My body hair didn't really change, but I started at 17 so I might have not developed full body hair yet.
>>6187796
are you the real fu?
anyway, since i'm done eating breakfast, i think i'll go run some errands. see you soon
should I really be a girl?
I want to get ffs and srs before I call myself a girl
I'm going to sleep on this
>>6187774
Yeah I made Prussia once but it was very weak and I way too over extended. The problem with Brandenburg is it starts off in a PU early in game and is pretty weak. I got lucky though and burgundy took care of that problem. The problem was keeping Prussia strong after making it. Maybe I should focus and a more slow pace game.
>really hard is reaching empire level with trebizond (probably hardest that I ever played) or making Byzantium great again (mostly cause of polands terrible AI)
I brought back eastern rome a few times. It went pretty good for a while where I took over southern Italy, most of Egypt ect. The proble was because I couldn't westernize fast enough austria got all prince eugen of savoy on my ass and removed gyro.
Anyways I will talk to you later on steam :3c
>>6187805
I think you could pull off a sissy maid look
![20160511_002549[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/j6Mdr7k.jpg "20160511_002549[1].jpg")
>>6187800
Yeah, pic related. Ordered 1yr supply of fin spiro and E at current dosage, and it made it thru US customs just fine. Shipping can take a couple weeks though.
Day 1 Vs 2 months wew
https://unsee
.cc/subineta/
>>6187753
6'2 7"
>>6187773
depends on the aesthetic you're going for
>>6187811
Nice blog post.
>>6187814
you should be my girl
>>6187814
Take care red, I hope you arrive at a decision you're comfortable with <3
>>6187796
That's sooooo lonnnggggg, I hope I can be pretty like you by 8 years tbqh
>>6187794
lazering legs is expensive.
>>6187797
I'm not sure, I'll check the packaging. I don't think so, because it doesn't run on battery.
>>6187801
maybe I'll just wear pants until then
>>6187806
I mean, my arm hair is lighter. Don't really have chest hair yet, but half my facial hair is dark, so it's not really clear which is gonna stay and which is gonna die.
>>6187763
I think it would be relatively easy to get a job if I can get past the "what the fuck is wrong with this guy, he has obvious issues" stage in the interview, that's not the problem, the problem is finding a job I can hold down for more than a week because I'm so, so, so, so shit at even the most basic of tasks and I don't want to accumulate a long list of jobs I've been fired from almost immediately for being terribly incompetent, it won't look good on my CV
I'm thinking about asking my dad if he can spare some of that inheritance to pay for my rent for a few months but I'm wary about giving him that kind of financial control over me (the whole point of me not moving back in with them is to try and escape their clutches), plus it might be hard to convince him it's a better idea than just living with him
>>6187815
>The problem with Brandenburg is it starts off in a PU early in game and is pretty weak.
I am pretty sure it doesnt, mustve had bad luck with monarchs for that to occur
>The problem was keeping Prussia strong after making it.
a few alliances should take care of that, just dont antagonize the emperor too early.
>>6187774
>life's shit, euthanasia when
WTF, are you talking about? we still have to have our hon duel? no chickening out until we do
Pic related, Me and Sophie 1 year from today after our duel in a german gay cabaret.
>>6187820
it's working!
also how has it taken this long for me to put the face to the name. i didn't know that was you and that you were tripping
>>6187830
>I don't think so, because it doesn't run on battery
probably not then
waterproof ones are more expensive but it was worth it to me. epilation is my primary hair removal method because my hair is still thick and dark after 2 years and stubble is usually visible on my legs/arms
oh look, all the cancerous trips are here: red, melly, eliot, faye, edgar and even the behemoth of them all, heather the slavic six foot linebacker
sweet
>>6187836
HA that picture is perfect.
literally me IRL :3
>>6187841
>tfw not listed
I am not trans but I feel incapable of being a man. I'm emotional and timid. I don't have any friends or interests.
>>6187841
>eliot
that's not even my boy name faggot
>>6187824
Yeah, that's about the point that it had noticeably changed for me as well. Took until like 2 years to get to what it's like right now. Hormones take ages to reach maximum effect, I mean hell I'm still occasionally noticing stuff like achy boobs after close to 6 years.
>>6187830
If it doesn't irritate your skin, Nair also lasts a bit longer than shaving, I remember using it a few times.
>>6187820
>https://unsee
>.cc/subineta/
>>6187824
meh after years of hrt I don't even come close to passing.
damn you pass better than me.
>>6187834
yeah maybe, I just went all ham because I had a sudden urge to take over poland and got too many bad boy points.
>>6187836
they all pass better than me lol.
I need more fire arms though. I may troll around, but I am 100% legit a gun nut.
>>6187845
same tbqh
i guess im just a boy
not a man, girl, or woman
>>6187832
If you feel you CAN get a job, then you should be able to hold it down for long enough - places are loathe to sack people because of lawsuits for unfair dismissal now adays. If you work at big chains, chances are you'd have to fuck up big time to get sacked. Trust me, I've worked with plenty of people who should have been sacked who never were, and all my friends who've worked in retail know people like that too.
Don't you live in a shit village? or your parents do? You'd just have to stress the I think it's better for my job prospects to stay where I am aspect. You just need to try stay afloat until you find out about if you can get those benefits and stuff desu.
Pet peeve of the day:
Family members trying to instill doubt in you after you took 4 years to reach a satisfactory answer to an existential question
In other news: my mother has decided that I must seek the opinions of at least 3 mental health professionals before I can be sure that I want to transition.
YAY FAMILY!
>>6187841
> not listed either
>>6187837
I really don't know. I whore my face here like all the time. Thank you!
>>6187835
>Be somebody's pet for awhile
pretty much my dream life anyway but I'm worried I might not be emotionally stable enough to be desirable enough to have food and rent paid for me
>>6187620
>mfw when to kayla uses the word "satire" to explain his non-existent sense of humor
>>6187833
Edie says this why literally every guy on the street watches her walk by, and she gets hit on by basically every straight guy. I don't believe any of you anymore >.>
>>6187844
Me and you bitch! Me and you. :3
together 4ever in hon!
>>6187849
I really envy women and the people here. There's no surgery to fix me.
>>6187846
>t. butthurt eliot nigger
also stop imitating dollface. you fail at it, hon
>>6187863
me too
i think i just want to be a teenage punk girl that messes around and is carefree
none of that is available to me naymore and wasnt ever
>>6187849
I feel this as well. It's hard to shake the feeling. I'm sorry anon
Okay. Going to sleep
>>6187841
Fuck off rawr. You're just jealous because they all pass better than your bald ass.
>>6187844
maybe because you are not cancerous?
:)
luv and hugzies, xoxxox
alexandria
>>6187859
i dont have that happen tho bc im an ugly nerd
like i wish i was pretty
>>6187862
i'm okay, had kind of a meltdown last night but i'm alright today.
how are you anon?
>>6187850
possibly
the stress of always only hanging on by the skin of my teeth isn't something I feel like I can live with for much longer though
the other issue for me is mobility, I need somewhere to live that is close enough to wherever I work that I can get there punctually, I walk at like half the speed of most people
>Don't you live in a shit village? or your parents do? You'd just have to stress the I think it's better for my job prospects to stay where I am aspect.
but the thing is, they'd rather I DON'T have job. they want me to just live with them for the rest of their lives and be the autistic man-child in the attic, safe from the nasty mean outside world and to never grow up or be independent etc. similarly, I'm not scared of them cutting me off if I come out as trans. I'm scared they'll try and "protect"/"fix" me.
>>6187872
Wow can we stop this
>>6187876
I hope you're feeling better, because you know this isn't the best place to be when you're down!
I'm doing okay, just been shitposting all day tho 2bh
>>6187862
I got drunk and made fun of Kayla for being an autistic virgin. I then remember a joke I heard before and said sleep tight Elliot with a picture of Elliot Rodgers after she bitched about still being a 28 year old virgin.
>>6187859
>not knowing being coy is the secret of attraction to men
that +a nice butt !
>it's the "passable trips spamming the general about how manly and unpassable they are" episode
>>6187866
Well... that would be true but for the fact that there's no chance in hell that I can afford anything other than the essentials on 50 euro a week, and I'm paying for my own food already. The second I get a job, a certain amount a month has to go to a college fund, and after that, I'll be investing in pills leaving me with... let me run the calculations... Fuck all to invest in a future. Not the nicest situation so I'll try to stay on her good side until that happens...
>>6187843
>assuming I had more than $30 to blow on an epilator
>>6187847
I may give that a short
>boobs
apparently boobs take like 6 years for cis girls to fully develop. I imagine our timeframe is shorter because we start later, but I wouldn't be surprised to need a new bra at 36 months.
>>6187841
>mfw I know I'm cancer but not listed
>>6187882
haha YUP
well it's okay, i do get support here from folks, for which im thankful <3 like i miss having a bunch of trans friends you know? even if they're just on the internet living that stealthlife isnt easy.
but then stuff like doxgate happens and ehhhhh.
>>6187886
>tfw not one of them.
Bad feels
>>6187830
Facial hair doesn't really change other than growing more slowly, at least as far as I know.
I wish I had light arm hair. Too bad I'm stuck with black hairs.
>>6187836
>hon on the left
Tall life is suffering.
>>6187845
You just need to get out and get some real life experiences. Once you have a lot of context you can find what makes you tick.
>>6187859
>tfw never been hit on by a guy
>>6187886
low self confidence is a hell of a thing
>>6187866
I'll stop after HE stops misgendering people on purpose, bro.
Oh sorry, why I even waste time talking to you? Fuck off Kayla enabler.
>>6187879
>How 2 stop shitposting anon
literally how? maybe if we didn't pay attention and give them (you).....
>>6187892
people used to bully me for "shaving my legs and arms" even though it only looked that way because my hair was always so fine.
>>6187884
im only 26
>>6187877
I know it's hard, and you've not got it easy from the sounds of things, but you can't let the stress get to you. You've got to give it a good go.
Also, if you're really, really struggling, and do need a place to stay, I'd be happy to take you in if need be
ok fuck it, I'm gonna self med because I'm impatient and I'm not getting any younger
So if I was to order from Alldaychemist what do I buy, what dosage, when should I place orders to get a regular supply, etc. I have no clue what I'm doing but god damn it I'm getting it done today
>>6187891
>it's the 'trip with zero self-awareness insisting on how manly they are' plot
get out passer, reee
>>6187888
Explain to her that the opinions of professionals don't matter nearly as much as your own opinion, and that there are no cis people who would confuse themselves for being trans. Doesn't matter if it's not perfectly true, bullshit her. Explain to her that psychiatrists make huge amounts of money by delaying transition and that that's why there are so many hons in the world. Tell her that if she ruins this for you and you end up a hon, you'll kill yourself and leave her name in the note.
Admittedly that's horrible and manipulative, but transition is important enough to warrant it.
>>6187904
>Which nickname do you prefer
kayla
>>6187886
Damn this shifty passers
>>6187901
>only
>26
>only
>>6187899
I don't understand why people bully for stupid reasons like that. It is such a minor thing to pick on. They must have been hella insecure.
>>6187890
Some of us like you a lot, but some of us are salty as fuck. We had a nostalgia thread a few days ago and a lot of people mentioned how much they missed you.
For the record, could you just put this straight, did rawr actually dox you?
>>6187889
If you're starting at 19 idk if the time frame is shorter, you're still technically starting in puberty. That said, even beyond that time frame boobs can grow with hormonal changes or sudden changes in weight.
Boobs are weird though, nuff said.
>>6187901
""""""""""only"""""""""""
>>6187890
everyone says youre so pretty can you give us a photo
>>6187890
ufufu help I don't like any of the new trips :( please bring back 2013 mtfg
>>6187911
So, you're admitting Kayla is a nickname, and your real name is Elliot?
>>6187912
Kayla is not even trans so it's not like climbing all the way down to his level tbqh phammy whammy.
>Pretty trips says she's a hon
you're pretty, a fox, a babe, Marry me
>I'm a hon
crickets chirp
>MFW
>>6187901
>26
>virgin
>>6187892
>You just need to get out and get some real life experiences
I've tried. Tried for a long time and gave up about a year ago.
This is really petty and I don't mean to demonize you, you're being kind. But if you give advice to people please don't tell them to "just" do something, like it's easy and simple. It isn't easy for me.
>>6187857
Yeah, I gave up on that myself because I'm not even hormones yet x.x
>>6187907
>>6187911
Miss Cock it is. :^^^)
>>6187745
Very cute, would drink tea with
>>6187921
This.......please.......
>>6187921
it's interesting how new trips come in waves, very rarely does a single new trip arrive, it's always two or three at the same time
some of the new waves have kind of sucked but i actually think some of the best trips in the general have arrived only in the past couple of months
>>6187892
>Tall life is suffering.
real talk: I'd like her 70% more if she had decent teeth. it's really creeping me out. I'd rather a hon than a monster.
>>6187891
Basic, I'll let you know you're among my top 3 favorite trips in general and in the top 5 better looking trips. I'm the unoficial president of your fanclub and I'm gonna make sure you're aware of it.
>>6187928
Tfw master hon race
>>6187910
Sh*t anon, have you not read storytime? She deserves way worse than just being manipulated. The thing is that I feel awful doing it. That being said, I have far more patience than I'm letting on and I'll meet one of those specialists in ... 15 days. I can wait 15 days to tell her to stop being ridiculous. Besides. I'm going to keep looking at my plan to transition and make sure that I've ironed out as many kinks as I can. The easiest way to do that is sit in the thread, be nice, and observe.
>>6187907
100mg spiro 2 mg e twice daily. also try trans subreddits
>>6187935
That's the spirit
Just try not to get too depressed, okay? That never helps things
>>6187916
salty that ive been gone??? ; 0; sorry everyone
>For the record, could you just put this straight, did rawr actually dox you?
not as far as i know
>>6187919
yes here
>>6187921
lol 2013 mtfg... what a time to be alive
>>6187942
who are some good ones for me to look out for? i wanna look at some fresh new talent
heya girls ! whats up today?
>>6187947
>15 days to meet a specialist.
god bless Ireland.
>>6187952
>who are some good ones for me to look out for? i wanna look at some fresh new talent
i like hannah she's cool
>>6187904
Can I be Miss Cock? better yet... Ms. Cocklette
>>6187917
>Chiclette teeth
>MFW
>>6187921
you literally don't know who I am, do you?
>>6187942
This is true
And with each wave a couple of the old trips leave. Not that anyone is obligated to stay. But still, it leaves the community getting worse and worse
>>6187910
>>6187888
Well, I mean, it's not necessarily that delaying transition makes them money, it's that choosing to diagnose you with something else (depression, adhd) is a lot safer of an option than telling you to become a girl. The John Hopkins experiment (giving children HRT, forcing transition; caused them to become suicidal later in life) didn't exactly help this argument, and no further controlled research has been conducted because it's unethical to force a transition on someone.
Since the hypocratic oath says to do no harm, and HRT has only ever been experimentally proven to do serious psychological harm, a doctor would rather give you a short-term, proven solution than a risky long-term one.
>>6187917
>boobs are weird
and kinda awesome
>>6187921
have this
>>6187954
GET OUT WHILE YOU CAN
>>6187933
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to word it like that. I'll keep it in mind.
In all honesty I shouldn't be giving advice about stuff like that since I've been a shut-in for the last couple of years.
>>6187945
She should have just done a close mouth smile instead. Either way the first thing that pops when looking at pics like that is how huge some people are.
>>6187954
Nothing really, just trying to pluck my seemingly endless arm hair. I should invest in better hair removal.
>>6187934
But you look so young! I'd pin you for a 16 year old andro butch dyke unlike Eliot who looks like a creepy 40 year old man with Steve Buscemi eyes and 80s Madonna teeth who just put on his wife's panties for the first time.
>>6187947
I haven't read storytime, I thought getting in the way of transition was the worst she's done :c
I hope the meeting goes well and that the specialist doesn't try to block you and ruin things. Anyway, you're you, and you know better than anyone else how you feel and how to interpret that. It's really gross that your mom needs three shrinks before she'll trust you, and even worse that she'd believe those shrinks before believing her own daughter.
>>6187958
No, Kayla's dick is Miss Cock. Ms Cocklette is not taken, though.
>>6187960
did they really do that??
>>6187928
Sass, you're like me. No matter if you posted pictures or not, people would forget what you look like in minutes!
>>6187955
I was meeting him anyway too!
It was an appointment I made two months ago that I updated to included bothering the poor fuck with my "gender issues". And yes, those are the terms she used.
>>6187960
Fuck'em. I'll find a way. After all, my Psyche was unwilling to give me pills until I told him to stop fucking about and do something about my mental health before I jumped off a bridge and he lost a patient.
>>6187967
Oh alright. I'll make a damn google docs for story time. It's easier than explaining every time, and doubtless someone will want to hear them again.
>>6187963
que??
>>6187964
why not use Nair?
>>6187928
did you start your 'mones, Sass? because if you don't then a hon is your future. you can still be the best and most beloved hon, of course.
>>6187971
shut up and shit on my chest, you hon
>>6187940
>satire
What's a good way to stay motivated to fix yourself even if it feels hopeless?
What's a good way to not avoid practicing voice because hearing your gross voice makes you feel bad?
>>6187961
back then all the trips started at age 7, nowadays they're all 12 year old late transers :(
Holy shit, there's like 3 of you.
Stop bullying Kayla
>>6187976
>you can still be the best and most beloved hon, of course.
I wans this
UFUFU IS AN UGLY OLD HON
but she is our Queen and I welcome her back accordingly.
>>6187940
>I respect it regardless
Let's wait until next time when he pisses you off enough you'll automatically revert to using his default pronouns. :^)
>>6187949
it's just hard because I feel like the exception to everything, which has always been true in my life so far
people say "hahaha oh it can't be THAT bad" or "other people have problems too" and then once they know more about my situation or see how I look irl it changes to "oh wow that's more fucked than anyone else I know" and "maybe life just isn't for you, sorry"
it feels like my situation is such a perfect storm of shit that none of the normal things people say to provide hope or advice apply to me and I know people say that's a bad attitude but you've got to understand how I arrived at this, it's 'cause I've always tried to do the things everyone else told me to do or that they did to improve themselves and have been beaten down every single time by either my own inadequacy or economic/practical factors. I wasn't born as pessimistic as I am.
>>6187952
Does it feel good to be queen bee?
>>6187978
edgarino pls
>>6187980
think about what the future will be like if you succeed. And do something happy after a voice training session to counteract the bad feels
hang in there anon you'll be a qt girl sooner than you think if u put in the work !
>>6187980
plz help
>>6187955
Yeah but there's a lot more bullshit in between to actually get on. In waiting for the endo appointment after getting a diagnosis in January.
>>6187966
:o
T-thank you.. Idk what to say. My repression era I looked in my thirties. You're sweet <3
>>6187939
Ooooooh. I was a handsome guy before. And a gigantic slut :( And now I'm engaged. That makes me feel better.
>>6187945
I don't even know what to say to you. I think you're wrong. And that you got rocks in your brain. But I'm also a validation vampire so I'll take every piece of that I can. For real tho thats actually really sweet to hear.
Using the wrong pronouns for someone is kinda a dickish move. I feel really bad for doing it out of anger
Can y'all attempt to be civil?
>>6187975
Sensitive skin and I hate the smell.
>>6187980
I don't know. So far anti-depressants are helping me get a bit back on track.
For voice practice read and focus on the text as much as possible. I usually find that if you focus on the text hard enough you can kind of ignore the sound of your voice.
>>6187991
I'm not actually in to that sort of thing, I just thought it'd make the old hon feel better
>>6187954
I gotta write my term paper by the end of the day, and I have to go eat, and I'm nervous about going out because I'm fat and ugly and manfaced.
And I might be getting kicked outta the dorms soon.
How's you?
>>6187960
Delaying transition means more visits "for your own good," and more money for them. Call me cynical.
Don't antidepressants fuck people up waaaay worse than hormones do? It's a guessing game that even in the best case scenario causes seriously harmful side-effects.
>>6187974
Oh, sorry for making you remember bad stuff :c
>>6187980
Considering the alternative >~<
>>6187984
RUDE
>>6187997
I'm civil!
