brain on drugs edition
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choose hugs not drugs
drugs are p gr8 senpai
old bred!
>>6143549
test
>tfw frying your brain is p great
>>6144879
robin
>>6144880
I would actually prefer someone to cuddle and hug over drugs
But you can get drugs easier
And on partys where everyone's on xtc i get more hugs than anywhere else
>>6144892
>>6144745
Where's the brownie kayla?
I dunno
ok for real i need to know if i pass with my hair pulled back. im gonna leave my house with a full face of makeup and in a skirt and i don't wanna get beaten to death. no hugbox pls. this is like a super honest photo of me too
>>6144890
This is Major Tom to ground control, you coming in perfectly clear.
is on drugs
>>6144887
I learnt it from u junkie-kun!
...How were your endo visits?
I'm kinda scared because my first one comes up next week. I've seen a few horror stories like https://broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/for-trans-people-on-hormones-doctors-can-be-the-worst-part-of-the-treatment and I'm genuinely frightened, even though a trans friend I have said it should be fine.
I'm not paying for my treatment and bf who is has a tendency to trust doctors too much and think I'm histrionic and distrustful even though I have reference charts and studies to shove in the doc's face in case he says something stupid, but I feel like it won't matter.
I wish I could just go, get recommendation for bloodwork (not free with my insurance without doctor's recommendation) and leave, but I'm scared he'll try to intervene more and change my dosages that have been working so far.
>>6144866
It's not humility, just a level sense of focus on the way I'm living life.
If my boymode fails and I freak out does that make me a boy?
>>6144899
No hugbox
Yep, you pass
Easy
Don't know about hip to shoulder and stuff
But your face passes
HAMILTON WROTE
THE OTHER FIFTY ONE
>>6144903
> junkie
I've actually barely done drugs lmaooooo
I just enjoy them
>>6144899
10/10 times pass, pretty too
>>6144899
You pass. Though, if I'd criticise anything it'd be your drawn on lips (but I'm not really a fan of that style anyway, so it might just be me)
>>6144899
>maddie so passable on less hrt then me
every time I see your pics they make me want to kill myself for being so ugly
>>6144921
Just use makeup and you'd pass too
>>6144921
But you're pretty too.
>>6144899
i like it!
Drugs are good! Who wants to do them with me?
>>6144933
Oh u were quoting a commercial
sry im high and stupid
>>6144929
I have a disgusting face and impossible facial hair
>>6144919
I think was you who said we should boycott cocaine because of all the violence it causes. I honestly kinda have some respect and admiration for Pablo Escobar and men like George Jung. They went from nothing to being some of the most powerful and wealthy men in the world. More so Pablo Escobar than George but still. Pablo had a net worth of 26 billion. That billion with a B.
>>6144932
Me senpai! :3
>>6144921
I have no idea what you're looking like now. I only remember your 420chan posts.
>>6144932
pic related
>>6144937
My beard growth would beat yours in a bar fight and make it into its bitch. Trying to boost my hair growth on my head gave it powers.
>>6144937
You need a hug
rapping in foreign languages is hard ):
>>6144933
I don't even know what I'm doing anymore.
>>6144946
What a strange boss. How would he even know?
>>6144946
My Boss called me into his office because i don't work like i used to.
He said he feels like i'm hiding something and i'm not the person i should be and asked what's up with me
don't want to tell him i'm a tranny though
>>6144960
you're not out at work???
Lmao where's Hailey my new hero. Cracked Amy in the jaw top fucking kek.
>>6144967
r u high?
>>6144965
No, why have you thought that ?
I'll go to back to school in August so i don't really want to out myself there
I'm just a coward
There are only girls at my workplace other than my boss, and they're all so pretty, i'd feel like a fake
Lmao just rejected a 21 year old tranny for hrt and accepted a 40 year old hon
Kekekeke
>>6144897
Cuddles and hugs are infinitely better than drugs.
>>6144979
Maybe I'm confusing you for someone else but I thought you were pretty good looking, so you'd pass well?
>tfw ur naked
>>6144996
>mfw dysphoric b/c no srs
>>6144996
i dont want to be naked
>>6144972
I don't think so
>>6144941
At a distance it's awesome I agree, for crying out loud, the man offered to pay Colombia's external debt.
but imagine going to a nightclub and your sister/friend could be some narcos property if they wished it so and there's nothing you can do about it.
Why go out at all because the club might be bombed?
How many dead people have you seen in your life? I have seen people shot in broad daylight, and I live in one of the nicest neighborhoods in the city....congressmen have been burned alive, children cut to pieces in drug gangs retaliation.
All the illegals in the US? some go there looking for a better life because all of the violence caused by the drug trade. You want them gone? tell Trump to make Cocaine legal, They're back in their countries in a couple of years. Corruption is a cancer that destroys everything.
I know Narcos seem these romantic figures, but make no mistake, they're more like Osama Bin Laden and ISIS than wild west desperados.
I don't want to be a Debby Downer, but I've seen my country go from hope to shit whith no end in site.
Ok no more talking about this, I don't want to go political.
>>6144996
>tfw you're clothed but not in women's clothing
>>6144996
Bad feel desu
>>6144993
Idk, people here tell me i'm pretty but i'm not so sure
>>6145011
They're right, you are.
>>6145011
God, you're so pretty I hate you. Please tell me you're on HRT.
>>6145011
yeah your boss fucking knows genius.
I'm getting bored of vidya
its all ogre
>>6144998
Yeah this 2bh
I'd probably enjoy being naked if it wasn't for that thing that reminds me of how worthless i am
>>6145011
your room is a mess, but I think you're very pretty<3
>>6145023
I'll be naked with you.
>>6144905
>SJW kek
you fucking coddled idiot. I hope you get explosive diarrhea for days on end.
>>6145031
Sass, if youdon't mind me asking, how old are you?
>>6145035
29
>inb4 hon
fine, i'll be 30 this year.
>tfw just found out that ffs isn't part of the treatment plan here
rip
>>6145040
You're on hormones already ?
Just got an email saying I was dropped from my classes because of unpaid fees. Even though my fin aid covers my classes..... Holy fuck. I would go into campus right now but I'm afraid I'd kill someone.
>>6145054
>party
h-heh first time for everything
>>6145054
>mfw pre everything
right after I start transitioning ;~;
>>6145055
Didn't this happen to korra too?
>>6145052
:( ugh
"natural" hormones (shame).
I feel there's no way I can do this well, I have some hormones and AAs but I don't understand the dosages and blood levels, my age, my weight....shit.
>>6145061
I meant with with you. I'm already topless.
>be browsing outside 4chan
>find post from red in 2015
Wat. I'm so nice tho so I'm not gonna post it
>>6145040
we're all hons deep down. Don't worry <3
>>6145065
What do you have ?
Spiro take 2x100mg/day once morning once evening
Cypro take 25mg once daily
Estradiol take 2x2mg
>>6145066
I-in a completely non lewd way, r-right?
>Tfw would have been 10/10 trap tier if I didn't have a giant witch nose
>>6145078
Nose jobs aren't too expensive
>>6145078
hey I hate my nose too
>>6145075
Of course! What kind of woman do you take me for? I can keep my panties on if you're distracted by penis.
How much better are orgasms on hrt? Will I really be able to have multiple orgasms? I can't wait for that change to take effect.
>>6145061
I hope they do. I'm sticking with leggings.
>>6145078
>tfw could've been 10/10 if you transed in high school
>>6145089
Not with that forehead
>>6145086
hahaha you stop coming when your penis breaks
>>6145081
>almost 5k
>not expensive
>>6145085
That might help but I'm sure that I can deal with it, ain't nothing I haven't seen before.
>>6145073
Estradiol 2mg daily
Provera 5mg daily (half month)
domperidone 5mg for 5 days beggining of month
so this I have worked out mimics the hormone cycle of a cis woman.
Should I follow what you have?
>>6145106
I'll pay 16k€ for FFS
I'm so done. No cure for being an ugly tranny.
>>6145083
shut up birdie you're perfect
>>6145116
I feel you
>>6145093
That came from T. I didn't go through puberty till 11th grade
>tfw I am actually noticing my masculine bone structure beginning to develop in my face fully , and I still don't have moans.
Oh, okay then. #Suicide 2016
>>6145116
you're not ugly! I want to hug you and make feel better.
>>6145125
Does this mean that if i have already had all the damage done to me i shoulda killed myself years ago?
>>6145110
I'd at least try 25mg cypro and 4mg e, what you have is optional
Progesterone and Domperidon can help with breast growth later on but can stunt it if raken too early
>>6145132
>25mg cypro
Are the usual dosages actually this low? I thought it was around 100mg daily
Do i have passing potential? 16 and a half, about to start self medding. There was no preparation to the pic related, and inb4 shitty hair, i shouldve probably washed it today morning. What about facial structure? Nose?
Ate like 4000 kcal 3 days ago. Got sick. Puke everything out. Lost weight.
Now I see the appeal.
>>6145125
Wait till you hit 25. I swear to heaven I didn't have a brow ridge b4 that.
>>6145136
25mg two times a day usually.
The only thing keeping me alive right now is the prospect of being able to afford surgery in 3-6 months, and transitioning in a year.
Every day that goes by is torture though. I don't know if I will make it.
>>6145138
;-; feels fucking awful posting these online
>>6145132
Ugh! are you going to an endo?
>>6145136
Moderate dose is like 12.5 mg
50 mg is for stubborn testosterone
100 mg is unheard of unless you have a cancer
>>6145136
I take 50mg
Some endo's prescribe doses down to 4mg
25mg should be pretty ok though
>>6145138
You do. Seriously don't worry about it you will end up great.
>>6145147
No, i'm self medding
>>6145138
>no brow ridge
>no strong jawline
>chin's not too bad
>nose is andro-masculine
>no adam's apple (I'm so jealous)
Really, really likely, and if you're babyfaced, you can probably pass with HRT alone. Get a second opinion though.
>>6145136
I take 50mg and my t levels are perfect. I tried dropping to 25but I need the it was a bit too low.
>almost 10 months HRT
>still don't look passable
when do hormones start working
>>6145170
Maybe I'll drop down to 50 as well, would save some money. I always had trouble with spiro not having any changes whatsoever so I was really happy with how cypro handled things, selfmed and can't check levels though but it seems to be working alright.
>>6145173
Never for MtF's from my personal experience, only hormone that works is T
>>6145119
you shut up I'm not perfect at all
w-who are you
>>6145143
Everything will be okay, friend.
>>6145179
Usual is in the 25-50 range. With blood tests supporting I've known more people on 12.5 than people needing above 50.
>>6145179
Brb. Gonna go invent hyper estrogen with frame shrinking reversal of male puberty
>>6145179
I'm self medding too. But just get tests from my doctor even though she's a huge bitch about it
>>6145173
sparky I think ur cute
>>6145138
I'm sorry anon so so sorry.
>>6145185
You will be stealth with a couple of years and some self care.
>>6145188
Can't get this sort of tests in public without the diagnose and private is too expensive.
>>6145086
A G P
G
P
>>6145189
doesn't mean i look like a girl tho
>>6145198
This. Jesus fuck, cotton reminds me of Laura's
>>6145202
Pluck your eyebrows
Get laser
>>6145202
Yeah you don't sadly.
I only got a B on the presentation I spent days on.
I'm such a moron...
I want kaylee to fuck me so bad
>>6145193
Honestly if thats how it turned out it wouldnt be that bad, apart from weird top lip and putting hair down, its pretty damn good for mtf, imho.
Fuck i hope customs doesnt sieze my package, gotta love living in fucking poland.
>mfw still manly af
>>6145185
no hugbox. Like I said, your nose is a little bit far extended from profile, but it's going to be so easy for you to pass that I hate you.
>>6145202
cis male get out
>>6145203
Sorry it just seems that females enjoy sex waaaaaay more than males. Also I'm more or less just trying to start conversation right now.
>>6145211
Yay I'm not alone in this shitty country!
>>6145145
You have an early onset of male pattern balding for 16.
>>6145214
Forst time in a few days i feel good about being hated :3
>>6145212
Same
>>6145220
i already hate you
>>6145211
Additionally I self medded 2 years and they took my package only once. I got it back 3 months later.
>>6145220
Enjoy it. If you add me on skype, I'll show you one of myself, so you know where I'm standing.
skype: isoteran
>>6145214
You trash yourself a lot and now I'm curious about what you look like tbqh
>>6145220
I hate you too
Also try to get finasteride and take around 1mg a day for like 3-6Month, your hairline doesn't look THAT good, this should totally restore it
>>6145231
fuck off
>>6145215
I'm not cis I just have unfortunate genetics, I started HRT when I turned 19 but it wasn't enough
>>6145231
birdy wanna succ the gt
>>6145231
Hi Birdy!!!
God I need more hobbies or something to say ass he time. I start work next week so that will keep me busy some days but I still have way to much free time on my hands. You guys recommend any to try? I'm considering picking up guitar.
>>6145241
Guitar is pretty good, but bass is better. If you pick up singing then you develop muscle control that will help you with voice training.
> Tell sister.
> She seemed totally fine with it on the phone.
> She's now avoiding me.
W-why?!
>>6145242
T H I S
>>6145242
I knew how to play bass a bit a couple years ago. But I forgot most of what I taught myself. Bass also never gets any glory.
>>6145231
And I don't trash myself much; thanks for the negging.
hoi!!!
>>6145260
>tfw will never be that pretty
;___;
>>6145234
>>6145254
',:^)
I wasn't insulting you blockhead, it's just every post I've seen you make about the way you look comes across as negative
>>6145239
what the heck that's gross
I don't want cooties
>>6145240
Hello red
>>6145259
Spiro's pretty bad with dht supression, get fin
Or use cypro, but fin is still better for your hairline
I should be happy when my boymode fails so why do I feel like a piece of shit
>>6145260
You and your hon 'girlfriend' must be the laughing stock of your school.
Yay I did it!
>>6145273
It's strange at first
That's pretty normal
>>6145278
CISSIES LEAVE
>>6145278
>tfw my record is <1%
>>6145276
add me on skype: derp223
tell me it :3
>>6145277
Nah, I'm actually a sorority sister.
>>6145284
Nah it ok. It was Just cute
>>6145245
Probably because having someone you thought of as your brother your whole life tell you they are now your sister is kinda weird. If she sounded fine with it she'll probably get used to it eventually and things will be better.
>>6145252
Glory is for chumps.
>>6144879
Whatev, this time next week my milk duds will be gone.
GOOD BYE SPIRONOLACTONE YOU DEVIL.
anyone else joining clippedgen?
>>6145266
Yeah, because I'm dysphoric and depressed. I'm going to get tunnel vision on the parts I hate about myself if I talk about myself at all. It doesn't mean that I don't like parts of me.
>>6145295
what is clippedgen?
>>6145241
Try singing. It's really fun.
>>6145272
Fin will be enough? I thought it was the weak one ._. The thing im deathly afraid of is puberty hitting, it seems delayed af and slow, so i have a feeling itll hit hard like a train. Fin+conjugated estrogens will be enough? I still have a shitton of reading to do
sup homos!
just finished my final squats and lifts before srs.
gonna throw muh gains a small dignified funeral when i board the flight tonight.
>>6145279
It's just when strangers or people I'm not out to do it I feel like I don't have control
>>6145278
tfw you're asian.
Guess I'm smart now!
>>6145284
Okay and?
>>6145302
congrats on ur vagina
>>6145302
Congrats rawr! Tell us all about it when you get back!
finally off work for today =.=
I HATE closing at midnight and then opening again @ 9am >.<
>>6145237
hey wanna date
>>6145316
not unless you're a guy
>>6145306
I'm not a laughing stock. Also, my girlfriend doesn't go to my school. Stop talking about kaylee that way
Wow this is interesting. Those are two (probably gay) males. One look like a female though, for me... but face++ thinks otherwise.
Am I blind to gender or what?
>>6145319
dropped trip oops
>>6145323
You're just crazy.
>>6145323
it says I look female now but that's bs
someone please gender me male. I wanna feel manly
If girls flirt with me a lot, does it mean that I'm a manly alpha Chad?
>>6145333
why would you wanna do that? being a guy is gross.
>>6145335
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
>tfw I've always disliked "Greek life" at unis, but somehow it still makes me jealous when Red mentions that she's a sorority sister
>tfw realizing that I'm only resentful of greek organizations because they remind me that some people had fun and social college experiences, whereas I spent mine as a bitter hermit.
>>6145333
sup bb. wanna be my bf?
>>6145335
Nah you've got universal appeal. Right now pre hrt you're sitting in a somewhat androgenous zone so either gender can fall for your looks.
don't listen to the trolls btw u have alot of natural beauty and hrt is gonna make u a bombshell. but you gotta stick with it and not give up
no hugbox keeping it real w/ u
>>6145342
Ah that's good. Now to inject some tea
>>6145344
No problem. Bros before hos.
Maddie
>>6145337
I'm a boy...
someone address me as a boy!
>>6145341
We're kinda the "black sheep" sorority. Well, theres another one, but we're hella cool. It's mostly just sisterly feelings and partying. It makes me feel so feminine. Also, frat brothers are really nice and cool to date. My sisters fought administration in order to get me in.
>>6145340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6oXW_YiV6g
>go downstairs for breakfast
>overhear my two sisters in the other room talking about clothes, jobs, their boyfriends
>sit on the kitchen floor and feel bad
>>6145323
Really? I thought for sure the one on the left was a woman
>>6145332
I mean face++ is a load of shit and all
but you do look female
>>6145335
No it just means they're huge lesbians :^)
>>6145349
We can be faggots together anon
>>6145320
Kaylee doesn't pass.
>>6145342
Hey Korra!
mtfg, have you ever worried that you get a little too obsessed with things?
>>6145347
Idk. I literally just got a phone call from a young teen girl I knew last year asking me to come over and give her the dick.
I said no
>>6145355
G A N J A
A . . . . . J
N . . . . . N
J . . . . . A
A J N A G
>>6145360
there's more to love then looks. Unless you're sociopathic.
>>6145362
Punch Amy in the face please
>>6145358
I don't look female at all
also this is the most accurate gender guessing site I've found, it's the only one that's recognized me as male every time:
https://www.microsoft.com/cognitive-services/en-us/face-api
>>6145361
heya heya akaka and not really, I tend to go with the flow unless dysphoria is fucking w me
I'm at the tranny and aids clinic.....
Everyone here is a really big hon, like big
A black prostitute
Or a massive faggot
I've never really liked the lgbt community :/
>>6145375
Well you are now a valued part of the same community.
If you could get one plastic surgery and one surgery only, which would it be?
>>6145379
I just wanna stealth.....
>>6144899
i'm not trans and you totally pass, to be honest you look better than most people i know
>>6145373
Ill be your flow if you need one!
>>6145384
>stealth
Hahahahaha... lol no.
>>6145380
Nose job
>>6145380
Chin/jaw
>>6145380
Brow shave w/o a doubt or full ffs if that counts
>>6145387
haha hiya soph <3 hows it going today? Oh and i wanna make a recoding for u. Whatcha want me to say? (Using my boy american accent voice ofc)
>>6145380
If I could legitimately only get one...
fuuuuuck....
probably srs, but tracheotomy is very close behind
>>6145387
<3 (you) <3
>>6145380
Butt implants
>sitting on bus
>trying to go home
>almost home
>nigger keeps bugging me
>asks for my phone number
>I try to ignore him
>he starts cursing and me and calling me white bitch hey white bitch
>get fed up with his shit and run out at next stop
>he followed me
>thankfully there is a cop on a bicycle
>nigger rounds corner trying to find me
>he sees cop and slips on the sidewalk
>I scream rape
>cop pulls taser out and points it at him
>still running I look behind me to see his ass getting cuffed
man I hate niggers
>>6145369
Wow it actually guessed my age
>>6145352
Hi bb
>>6145361
Yes
Also hi
>>6145369
I dunno, you look like a female to me, but then again I kind of have a hard time picking up on masculine/feminine facial features anyway unless they're really glaring.
>>6145380
rhino
my nose is the devil
>>6145380
Noooo. That's so unfair.
I guess forehead recontouring, but I'd regret not having the advanced hairline, mandible reduction, and genital upgrade. I guess I could survive without the rhinoplasty.
>>6145299
Those Who Have Been Castrated.
>>6145401
it tells me I look like a man and older than I actually am so it's pretty depressing lol
>>6145400
they cannot behave
it is just not possible
they start doing okay at times, but they always end up just not behaving
not a hard thing too do
In a star bucks right now where one keeps yelling trying to use the free phone or something because he keeps forgetting the first few digits to dial
ay yo wez wuz kangz nigguh chek muh brands niiigguuuuh
wtf this thing is busted lol
How can I see if my health insurance covers any hrt or trans related treatments or not? I'd also like to not let my parents know or find out. Which may be hard considering I'm on their plan.
>>6145403
>genital upgrade
I'm sooo calling it that from now on.
>>6145408
idk this is the first time it's given me anything below that desu, prbly just lighting
>no far right bully gf
>>6145414
Do you think korra should kill himself?