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Previous >>6088899
>>6089956
first for some people are just meant to be alone
>>6089955
This is the second time this has happened (pure block, no talking or discussion or prelude), but this time I actually truly loved her.
I had to call in sick for school because I couldn't really do anything but lie down and hope and eventually cry.
Daily reminder that you either die a man, or live long enough to see yourself become a hon.
>>6089962
I'm gonna make it anon. I can't give up now.
>>6089962
How does that even make sense?
Hello :)
What, in your opinion, is the best style of glasses for a girl
First for being bored as fuck.
Where do you see yourselves in 5 years? 10?
nth for forever alone
>>6089972
dead and dead with any luck
>>6089966
hey grace
>mfw have to spend 2 more weeks with my mom telling me i'm the devil before i move out with my bf
>>6089975
You bore me future dead anon. At least die in a fantastic way.
How many virgins must I sacrifice to pass this well
>>6089972
If I don't transition, dead. If I do, likely in Seattle producing hardcore and scraping by on the rent.
>>6089972
literally no clue
i know transitioning is going to be a hurricane of fucks. i have to find a new job at the very least
>>6089960
The last time she broke up with me, it lasted two-thirds of a day because speaking with her as a friend made her fall in love with me again.
I guess she wanted to avoid that happening? I have a bad habit of making people fall hopelessly in love with me and then abruptly never wanting to speak with me again.
>>6089962
you messed the quote up btw it's supposed to say:
"take hrt early or you live long enough to see yourself become a hon"
>tfw your dysphoria gets triggered whenever you see pregnant women
>>6089962
>tfw not aiming for femininity, but andro/cute boy in skirt look
good feel i'll never be a hon cause im killing myself by 30 anyway :D
>>6089962
That's not how it works. There's loads of old (like, 65+) trans women that look like ordinary older women because their transition got to the point where they could pass. It's increased masculinization and aging as a man (balding, etc) that makes it harder to pass the older you get.
>>6089972
With a boyfriend / girlfriend
With a husband / wife
>>6089982
>passed since 5 years old
wtf this is unfair
>>6089981
i'll get hit by a car while i'm crossing the street, but it won't kill me. after six months of suffering through recovery a blood clot will take me out
Oh god I just had the most emotionally brutal dream ever. It made me realize that I need to fix things between me and my dad. Holy shit I've been such an awful son/daughter.
>>6089966
hey grace!
>nth for tfw hopping back in bed with someone was stupid as fuck
>>6089983
producing hardcore pawn?
hi /mtfg/, if u could give any advice to yourself a year ago, what would it be?
>>6089982
I hnnnnged way too hard
why couldn't I have that face?
>>6089980
iktf
>>6089999
Noooooooooooooooo what happen?
>>6089999
What happened? Got a disease? Look on the bright side, you got trips too!!!
>>6089999
wow elanna great job on those quads, you're killing it
are you talking about your ex?
>>6089976
>>6089997
Hey anons, what's up?
>>6089980
Spend 2 weeks telling her you've reserved a special spot in hell for her when she joins you down there.
>>6089972
Hopefully happily transitioned, moved out of my parents house, and working on a career, whatever I decide that is. Really not sure, I just wanted to take care of my very pressing short term problems and worry about the long term later.
>>6090000
>quads
hardcore tekno
https://soundcloud.com/isotera
I suck rn, but maximum effort
>>6089982
t-thanks for the compliment anon... trip on me
>>6089956
>tfw tfw edition
>tfw MANIC
>>6089928 #
I think Im doing alright, honestly
>>6089942 #
you wouldnt try poly for anyone?
I mean I used to be kind if against the idea, but if I really cared about someone, like I do and did for yume, then Id try it- for them
I dont understand how you could be so above poly that youd never even consider it, but its your life I guess
>>6089980
You kinda look like that isla girl if she started hormones at 20
/r9k/ is dead right now can I sleep over /mtfg/? ;_;
>>6090023
sure thing pizza
>>6090001
I would tell myself that by this time next year I would have a girlfriend and I wouldnt be homeless
>>6090023
Sleepover time!
>>6090023
u slut
>>6089994
Better
>>6090018
Holy hell I never knew you were that beautiful before.
>>6090001
A year ago today?
Stop fucking around with the army and repressing. It's not gonna work out. Forget about everything else and go find Kari, start talking to her and get your shit together. You can get a few months head start on your transition and be happier than you ever have been before.
>>6090011
Who else? :(
>>6090010
I smiled, thanks anon
>>6090007
The inevitable. Don't ever start sleeping with your ex. Moreover, don't start doing it again after the last time you did it wrecked you.
>>6090001
stay away from Portland o.o
>>6090012
Youll do great Grace <3
>>>6089980
>Spend 2 weeks telling her you've reserved a special spot in hell for her when she joins you down there.
hehh, I kind of want to tell my mom that the demon tempting me was only allowed because god has decided the entire family is beyond saving. probably wouldn't work tho
did talk to her about those magnet-induction experiments that 'cured' belief earlier, it's weird how belief makes people totally incapable of accepting the possibility of that concept
>>6089950
That doesnt sound very fair to you, it seems like a genuine misunderstanding. It was very rash of her to cut off all communication with you, I can kind of understand the shame she might feel and the insecurities over her sexuality but thats still extremey harsh, how long ago did this happen?
>>6089955
Eh, don't rush it. Work on fixing your own life and some one will come along to fuck it up with their love. I lost my virginity at 19 because of something my mom said to a girl I didnt care about and eh Im not ecstatic about it, I wish it had been something special.
>>6089969
Thick rims, big squarish lenses.
>>6089980
I hope you're able to resolve things with your mother in the future. Im sorry you're living with that, Kiwi.
>>6090036
did you catch feelings or something
>>6090001
she's actually straight, do it anyways
>>6090001
I would tell myself to just end it, nothing gets better
>>6090029
hi bb~
>>6090025
>>6090028
Yayy!
>>6090041
It happened at 3 pm today. She said hi at 2 pm, and I didn't respond because I was out and didn't see the notification, then at around 3 she told me she wanted no part of it. I don't know the exact time she decided to do what she did.
>>6090019
its not that I'm "above" poly, its that I want to be completely devoted to the one I love, not the two or three and all i ask from them, is that they so the same. I absolutely hate the idea of sharing my soulmate with anyone else and before I even fall for someone I try to find out at least a bit about them.
So if I found out someone was poly, I simply wouldn't date them. We could be platonic friends but never romantic partners.
I'm very paranoid about STDs and I have trust issues already, poly would only make me miserable. and I'm not going to do that even for someone I love. I only wanna have sex with the one I love, no body else. If that makes me old fashioned or naive then so be it. That's just how I am.
>>6090045
would your past self say "i know i was already planning to this tuesday, i gave up my trip on /mtfg/ and everything" though?
>>6090001
a year ago? I'd tell myself to make the jump now and get start hrt at the beginning og my first year in college. I'd tell myself that your friends are gonna support you because they love you and care about you. And I'd tell myself to stay away from any drug other than booze and weed.
>>6090001
tell myself keep your friends close and your kaylas closer
>>6090043
Seemingly..
I ran headlong into it this time, really should have known better.
>>6090057
>not taking turns eating me
it's like ur not even transbian tho
>>6090001
Getting into relationships with people you've met through the internet will only hurt you. People you've loved will lie about you and try to hurt you as much as possible in any way they can. Get on hormones - not in fall, in spring - and you'll be a much happier, well-adjusted person than you are now. Once you pass and everything, you can make friends in real life.
>>6089972
5 years
>finishing up school, living in a cute place that i've furnished nicely with faye
>volunteering a lot of my time at both local lgbt chapters as well as traveling to other countries
>making even more money, orchi + ffs done with, decently happy with my body
>long pretty hair, a good set of casual clothes for everyday wear
>good friends, a lot more family visits, helping my mom with her goals in life
10 years
>establishing a non-profit organization for trans people
>contemplating adoption, buying a house, genuinely being happy with where i'm at
>continuing to improve on a personal level, become completely self-reliant, possibly being married
>avasting a large amount of money to live comfortably and support anyone i need to
>having somewhat of a routine, but genuinely enjoying every minute of it
basically
>>6090001
"you still haven't gotten a gf from /mtfg/ but you haven't given up yet. they don't call it the long chase for nothing."
>>6090001
don't even stop hrt for a day you dummy
>>6090062
why dont you just confess your love to him? get on your knees and beg him to take you back, if he says no then just start throwing a crying tantrum
>>6089972
in 5 years i think i'll be significantly happier than i am now
i dont think i'll be alive in 10 years but not because of suicide, i think i'll just end up dying somehow, most likely a terrible accident
>>6090052
:(, I dont know what timezone you're in anon but Im gonna guess its safe to assume its been less than 12 hours. She might try to recontact you after blowing off some steam, but if that happens its on you with how you decide to react, cutting you off like that was extremely cold.
>>6090056
First rule of achieving illumination is don't talk about achieving illumination.
>>6090001
"i know you think you love him, but you don't. you probably know that too. also, you might be a lesbian."
>>6090075
I'll protect you anon!
>>6090038
I hope so, maybe with your help!
>just noticed my hairline is fucked
>been on testosterone blockers since i was 16
FUCKING
HOW?
ffs can fix it right?
>>6090081
thanks but i dont really mind if i die young, it's not that i'm suicidal or unhappy, i just feel like i'm living on borrowed time as it is for some reason
>>6090066
>edie takes your question super srsly.
That's more like it.
>>6090087
Do you really wanna die so short after finally getting happy?
>>6090070
He won't, if there were even close to a chance of that I may be less upset.
>>6090056
It does, but I only have myself to blame.
>>6090063
hmmmmm
I do like biting things like a baby snake
>>6090076
I'm on the West Coast.
The first time it happened, she lied about it being about her 'just falling out of love with me' - she'd seen some of the things written about me on /mtfg/ and went into a week-long depression because she'd convinced herself that she didn't really love me because I was possibly a dangerous or bad person.
Not this time; there was little to no prelude, and the days before that were the most love-filled of my life except for just the night before. It just happened. Maybe she objectively thought of me as a danger to her and decided to cut it off completely, because she was afraid of falling back in love with me again. I would have appreciated it if she told me before she did it, so I could at least have known.
Maybe she's doing it to punish me for supposedly being a bad person? I wish she could have at least rubbed it in, but maybe that just wasn't cruel enough.
>>6090086
well you might have a high hairline but receding one from temples would definitely be weird
>>6089972
I sincerely don't know besides the fact that I'll be postop, finally have every bit of my IDs changed, and that I won't be stuck in place quite as much as soon as these two things are sorted out and I can start traveling again.
>>6090091
maybe you should find a new boy to love
>>6090096
I don't have a high hair line
it's literally like number 2 on this thing
jesus fuck I swear to god if you can't fix the corner things I'm killing myself tomorrow
time to get drunk with friends tonight
>>6090088
i'm autistic, i take everything seriously t b h
>>6090087
a persistent feeling of foreboding is one of the main symptoms of most schizo-type mental illnesses, senpai...
>>6090091
>tfw can't hold and comfort elanna while she ruins your shirt with many anime tears
>>6090112
>getting drunk
>>6090095
/mtfg/ will convince people of some crazy shit, Im sorry this happened to you anon. I hope she tries to recontact you and you can work things out, Id stay and listen to you more but I need to fall asleep, Im tired. I hope you'll be ok.
>>6090106
If I started experiencing this shit Id just start wearing a wig. There are some super cute wigs out there.
>>6090116
Hi birdie.
Nightt birdie.
>>6090120
Thanks, Asuka.
>>6090106
well i had like that too but hrt fixed most of it...
>>6090115
i dont think i have any of those
>tfw no Red gf
fuck the Atlantic. seriously.
>>6090103
How do I get over love?
>>6090124
(noticed)
sweet dreams
how the fuck do i get bf
>>6090125
You're welcome, gnight
>>6090134
you dont
>>6090134
Pretty sure we're supposed to go into /femgen/ with some big nets and rope.
>>6090134
killing yourself is a good start
>>6090134
For you? Impossible. You might be able to get a nonpassing ftm(He'll be named skyler).
>>6090128
did it really?
can i see pictures
>>6090134
pray to the tranny gods
>>6090132
you dont. you just try to stop thinking about it long it enough that it becomes the same as forgetting it, and then you find someone new to break your heart.
>>6090138
Lmao grace ilu
>>6090134
it's easy if you're a degenerate, like me
>>6090134
ill be ur bf
>>6090141
i have posted in /ftmg/ to no avail
>>6090134
basically just pretend the guy is funny, intelligent, worthwhile, and that he's worth admiring. make sure that he feels that he's needed and that he can provide for you, and he'll want to wife you up. men are weak, and whether they realize it or not, value their ego above all else. if you stroke that properly it makes stroking everything else much easier. which makes manipulating them later on a cake walk.
>>6090112
Don't drink that store bought shine. Get some real stuff.
>>6090144
this list hits close to home desu. kinda like outta sight outta mind. ehh it works for me most of the time just think about other things and don't linger on negative thoughts too much too often and viola
>>6090134
I also would like to know this
f-for a friend
>>6090152
Shit outta luck, an hero I guess?
>>6090152
Did they ask you when you were planning on starting T?
>>6090138
femgen is so shitty these days i come here instead
>>6090160
i'll be your bf. don't let my estrogen dominant endocrine fool you, i'm a strong boy
>>6090134
this
>>6090145
<3 ty korra
>>6090164
I tried going there once to bf-hunt but the response was basically "BUT WE'RE GAY BOTTOMS"
I guess I'll just have to admire cute femme boys from afar.
>>6090157
its alright im just looking for a cheap drunk desu
I wanna forget some stuff and it gets the job done
>>6090167
and he will cheat on you
>>6090169
according to the polls that come up every couple threads, it's about 50/50 gay and bi, so you're not completely out of luck
>>6090142
dont really have good pics of it, heres someone else
in worst case you could try finasteride i suppose
>>6090170
yeah I wouldn't recommend sad drinking with the real stuff either. That tends to end really badly.
>>6090167
>one in a million
Maddie there's barely a million men where you live and you already have two different cute boys fawning for you right now with minimal effort.
>>6090165
oh, yes, I'm sure
where do you live, strong "boy"
>>6090156
I'm almost at a year, when do the scars fade?
>>6090144
I fear that this is close to the reality of what's going to happen.
>>6090172
Oooh, good news! Maybe I'll drop by again when it's time to resume my hunt, but I'm happy being single for now and don't really want to date until I'm a better person.
>>6090175
not everyone loves a hyper masc man with gyno and a chubby ass
>>6090167
men aren't really interested in looks when it comes to a long-term partner. that's why most married women are hideous.
it's more about timing than anything, and how well you mesh together. casting a wide net at the end of the day only helps you find a man who's in the same place in his life that you are. so you better hope you're in the place you need to be in your life to be able to benefit positively from any relationship, or else it'll either be a waste of your time, or a trainwreck. you also have to be the one who's responsible for that because men don't know anything when it comes to considering other people's feelings.
>>6090176
it's honestly really easy. i've had men who never seriously pursued a woman in their lives freak out because they can't comprehend their feelings for me. making men feel like they're falling in love like they did when they were teenagers is my specialty.
>>6090178
I don't know. It took me a bit over a year to truly be over the last breakup. And by truly I mean I still sometimes have pangs of regret.
>>6090181
aww you're a good person, grace!
>>6090183
There's T and top surgery for that, mAidan
>>6090188
Aww, thanks anon <3 I mean more than I'm kind of a mess when it comes to dating people. Idk why I just haven't really felt like I'm in the condition to commit to people lately. I decided because of that I'm just gonna take time to figure myself out and then I can start worrying about figuring relationships out. It's kinda hard to juggle both at once.
>>6090065
>Getting into relationships with people you've met through the internet will only hurt you.
There's a part of me that is scared that I'll be writing this advice to my past self next year; how many relationships between people that met on /mtfg/ have lasted more than a year?
Whatever, I'm going to be optimistic; maybe something nice will happen?
>>6090185
I have an odd knack for the same out of women.
Dunno why, as previously mentioned 10/10 neckbeard.
>>6090185
Damn Satan you scary <3
>>6090196
My record so far is a month! I think my longest internet relationships were only a handful of months too. Distance is killer.
>>6090197
i don't really know what effect i have on women. you'd have to ask faye.
>>6090200
you love it.
>>6090185
thats interesting and good to know!
>>6090186
Wow, I'm sorry. Love fucking hurts.
>>6090206
so what are you gonna do elanna, are you going to tell your ex the truth or just try and cut it off
>>6090202
Ooooh. Im slanted to win on this cause oldfag, buuut...
Longest 3 relationships youve had ever?
7yr, 5yr, 1yr. Lol
>>6090211
He's also one of my closest friends, so I suspect I'll do both.
my longest relationship was 2 weeks and that was in second grade
holy shit this stuff is strong
>>6090214
0, 0, 0
>>6090185
Id say men aren't interested in a long term partner in general, and looks are all that's important to them, again in general. I literally can count only once where a guy mentioned a girls job when he was pining over her.
They don't tend to keep caring about looks, unless another woman makes them reevaluate the situation. (Which is also true of a lot of women)
The married people being ugly thing basically stems from relationship complacency, and getting older imo
>>6090220
what if he has feelings too
>>6090228
real men don't have feelings.
>>6090206
Yeah, sometimes it does a lot.
>>6090228
He won't. He doesn't love me.
>>6090226
but you haven't been with men and edie has been with lots.
she has experience
>>6090204
Well you don't make me feel like a teenager.
You mesh well with every part of how I'm growing, and it's caused by organically being who you were and what you had planned when I met you.
You're also a really good kisser...
>>6090223
careful bb
>>6090214
half a year, two months and three weeks. :|
>>6090234
>what you had planned when I met you
Huh?
>>6090214
My ex-wife was my high school sweetheart. I was with her for 34 years.
>>6090231
he's a dingus then. what's not to love?
>>6090238
crashing this plane
>>6090232
And Edie has never been a good old boy that got to directly hear and see exactly what men do.
>>6090214
3 months, 1 month, N/A
>>6090244
DR PAVEL
>>6090239
Ill take second. You win.
>>6090250
how's yume doing
>>6090214
7 years, 3 years, 2 years
>>6090183
>tfw no ass skinny fat
>>6090253
shes okay rn
Drink # 3!
2ounces of moonshine 4ounces of ginger ale <3
>>6090264
don't do anything you'll regret later~
>>6090264
just remember hrt lowers alcohol tolerance tho
>Tfw brother walked in on me masturbating
>>6090264
>that much ice
lol
>>6090240
There's a lot, he's seen me at my absolute worst and I don't blame him for wanting to wash his hands of me.
>>6090274
did he finish the job?
>>6090264
>willingly poisoning yourself
>>6090226
that's because men are socialized to treat women like objects.
when you get a guy alone, and out of that whole "i need to be a big man and talk about this hot chick" thing they basically say the same things women do. guys talk to other men about women differently than they talk to women about women, and it's not just because they don't want to hurt our feelings, though that probably accounts for some of it.
most men say they're lonely in the emotional sense because they don't have the ease of just talking to anyone about their feelings, and they also want to feel important, and valuable because men are socialized to see themselves as being worth as much as they can provide. women a lot more often focus on being seen as desirable first, and stable second. we're socialized to see ourselves as valuable based on our appearance, and not what we can provide. both genders end up feeling unfulfilled most of the time because they don't realize the different ways each needs validation.
a lot of this is probably because although sex is easier for women to get, it's a lot harder for them to maintain relationships with men who see them as trophies, and they don't need sex in the same way men do... so women end up feeling lonely because they're not being fulfilled outside of sex, and men are often not fulfilled fully sexually, or even on an emotional level because they're too busy trying to stick their dick in everything to attempt to validate their manhood that they miss the validation stability would provide.
most everyone desires partners they find attractive, but what women deem attractive and what men deem attractive varies quite a bit. men have all different kinds of types, and their job or income is a small fraction of the overall consideration. while women sort of have the same MO regardless of race or age. a guy who has money, a nice body, chiseled features, etc
>>6090234
>tfw you haven't experienced even half the things my mouth is capable of
>>6090268
>tfw you only learned this after passing out on new year's eve
>>6090287
there's a difference between cold and watered down.
>>6090277
allegedly
>>6090276
there's plenty of precum soaked penises in the sea elanna, im sure you'll you find the one soon enough that will turn you from a sadgirl into a happygirl. it sounds like you're going to be in for a rough time the next couple of weeks, so just try and stay as positive as you can.
>>6090268
SERIOUSLY?
I used to spend ~$250 on drinks in a night and sober up by the end of the night
>>6090268
By a lot, in my experience. Definitely find out how much you can handle on HRT in a safe setting before drinking a lot somewhere where you need your judgement and wits about you to prevent you or someone else from getting hurt.
>>6090268
I get pretty drunk after just one or two beers ><
>>6090268
I can't wait for this to happen. I have to spend too much money of booze to feel anything.
>>6090297
arent you like 4'10" though
>>6090299
its bith good and bad tnh
>>6090303
Honey I think it's time to slow down.
>>6090282
i just realized it's kind of lucky i wasn't on hrt on my 21st birthday, 19 shots of whiskey would have been a bad idea.....
>>6090287
:D
>>6090288
a single ice cube is the way to go
>>6090293
pre-hrt? if not idk girl
but, yes, it lowers it by quite a bit usually
>>6090297
>>6090299
saves so much money
>>6090277
No, but he just learned that I'm post op
>>6090276
H-hey don't talk about yourself like that ;~;
It's his loss for not returning the love of a real life anime waifu
>>6090309
>tfw most of your family isn't aware yet and hopefully not ever
>>6090279
>trying to force your straightedge bullshit on us
fuck off
I've come to the realization that I'll probably loathe best I can hope for with just hrt is to look like Pam from season 5 of archer.
>>6090309
lel that would be awkward
daily reminder that if you don't have a feminine sneeze before hrt, you won't pass
>>6090323
Welp I guess I'm not gonna make it
>>6090307
I guess that probably would've ended worse, yeah. How did it actually turn out?
I got lucky too, in that I was at a party consisting entirely of my closest friends
>>6090317
yeah that's a pretty good height i guess
daily reminder that if you don't have a feminine penis before hrt, you won't pass
>>6090323
oh god
>tfw incredibly manly and retarded-sounding laugh/sneezes/coughs/hiccups etc.
fuuuuuck
>>6090327
IM REALLY NOT GOING TO PASS
>>6090323
what if you have an androgynous sneeze and you aren't trans? am i repressed?
>>6090330
I'm sorry, you'll need PFS to pass.
>>6090332
you might be if you're here
decided to repress and find a gay bf that has a crossdressing fetish tbqh with you
>>6090333
nice trips elanna, jeez louise you are on fire when it comes to post numbers today
>>6090327
fuck
>>6090325
pretty good, I did most of my drinking in the wee hours so I was recovered enough to have a nice dinner at a really good thai restaurant with my mom and bro by 7 pm, it was a nice birthday
>>6090335
*PFS not to be confused with FPS (feminine penises/second)
>>6090335
Isn't that foreskin restoration surgery + HRT?
>>6090336
im here for the memes and that's it
>>6090036
*liggs pucci*
np bb ;))))
>>6090347
me too tbqh
>>6090280
Well I thought about it, and I don't think it's a "women are objects" socialization thing, I've heard that before, but I'm going to go with base biology.
Men tend to addicted to the feeling when they want a girl and she wants them back, and they mainly, in there 20s will fuck her every time this happens.
This is why they like to get drunk in bars, sometimes they can recreate that feeling with someone they aren't attracted to, and at the least they can get a false feeling of their own importance (which is also addicting)
I don't think it's a psychological thought process, they just tend to do it regardless of who they're dating or with, as much as their looks and money will allow them to.
It's not that women are objects, they just don't consider them, outside of the possible repercussions.
They use the trophy thing to feel important but socialization isn't the primary concern of most men, only a very certain type do this, and most other men do not care, unless they are that same type.
>>6090307
>a single ice cube is the way to go
i like you
>>6090345
It might also need to be trimmed tbqh
>>6090323
>loud battle cry sneeze
guess everyone can stop trying to convince me to be a girl :^)
>>6090333
I don't agree with most drugs but they don't make you a bad person unworthy of being loved back, so I'm still gonna say his loss 〔´∇｀〕
>>6090360
Fuck it I'm just gonna be the queen of the BIG MEATY GIRL TINKER CLUB
talking about mwtl gear 5 with friends while drinking moomshinr tonight was a good night :3
>>6090366
Goodnight Drunka :3
>>6090368
hey fkc youngirly om not drink! 200% sovrr!
>>6090365
Im in the same damn club.
>>6090365
can i have an application
>>6090366
jesus
daily reminder that if you dont have a feminine [thing you're insecure about] you wont pass
>>6090364
hi birdie how are you?
>>6090365
that picture is basically faye and edie force femming birdy
>>6090364
>they don't make you a bad person
If you're a casual user they don't. When you're a habitual user...yeah they definitely do.
>>6090379
i'm fucked ;~;
>>6090379
daily reminder that if you dont what the heck you wont pass
>>6090379
Penis?
Wait that doesn't make sense
>>6090379
>tfw no feminine face
>tfw no feminine body
>tfw no feminine penis
>tfw mentally ill
>tfw etcetera
am i doing it right?
>>6090389
ehat the hexk
>>6090372
>>6090373
SISTERS OF THE HUNG CLITORIS
>>6090379
>tfw no feminine anything
yeah time to give up
>>6090383
KEK
>>6090353
men are socialized to treat women like objects because media propagates and abuses the archaic, instinctual triggers of both men and women to sell them things and convince them of a means to live their life. women are sold makeup by airbrushed, fertile looking models (nice hair, teeth, small pores, big hips, nice tits, small feet, pretty eyes etc are all things that signal to men that you're a desirable mate) and are told that if they buy these things, or look like this or that, that men will love them. even being sold the "independent woman" angle is just profiting on the dichotomy of the capitalistic society we live in now, what with our wants, and our needs being seen as so different to most larger companies. men are sold the lie by male models (who are physically what women want, but also put into advertisements that show them as classically wealthy, refined, and powerful) that if they have money and look masculine and attractive that women will bow to them, and they'll get everything they ever wanted in life. i.e., a mate. these things would be true if sex is all men wanted, or getting knocked up was all women wanted, but we don't live in caves anymore. combine that with the fact that women are taught to be emotionally open with other women while men are taught to repress any emotion at all, and you've got a recipe for a group of men who seek sex out in an almost primal manner who don't feel fulfilled in any modern way because of how our brains and society have evolved...and you have a group of women who don't understand why on earth he doesn't notice her, or why she's so unhappy despite how much makeup she's bought, and how much men want her.
tldr; you're right that it's base biology and primal, but the reason we're socialized the way we are is because abusing that primal nature, in other words something familiar in everyone and easy to tap into, provides the greatest incentive for financial spending, and monetary fortune. welcome to capitalism.
>>6090394
grace pls yoyre super andro rn and barely ecen on hrt. Once u figure urself out and let hrt wirk its magic ur gonna be a Heart throb
>>6090382
I'm tired and feel like butts, I did a skype call with someone from here for the first time and we ended up talking for literally F I F T E E N hours til I fell asleep on her.
>>6090383
But I can't get knocked up.
>>6090384
I understand that, but I believe everyone is deserving of love no matter what they're going through in life.
>>6090353
p.s. i love that you're not only ridiculously beautiful, kindhearted, and wonderful, but also incredibly intelligent.
>>6090402
>But I can't get knocked up.
of course you can, when youre a girl
>>6090392
Xd so durnk man HAHA
shut the fuck up, you obnoxious nigger.
>>6090394
