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I am Cait got added to Hulu

This is literally Susans and Lauras the TV show.
Everyone in this show is fucking disgusting.
I am really open minded but fuck this show.
We are so incredibly misrepresented by freaks nonstop.
They spend the entire site parroting their therapists and what they've read yet they do everything wrong and just every single thing about them would cause an actual trans girl to commit suicide if they were caught doing it.
But these disgusting mother fuckers are actually proud of how utterly disgusting they are.
They are worse than chris chan.
They go on and on about not "being like that", but they are the epitome of stereotypes and it makes me want to vomit watching them.
They make me ashamed of being trans.
Im surprised they aren't wearing diapers and having tea parties.
They are sick caricatures of women and transsexuals.
Im seriously considering calling myself intersex from now on just to avoid being associated with fucking freaks like this.
I feel sick to think that this is what people think of us.
This is who they think we are.
I feel so bad for young impressionable transgirls wjo need real rolemodels but instead are going to see these fucking disgusting faggots and think this is who I am.
This is what my life will be.
This is what all the money will get me.
And they will kill themselves than face the horror of becoming a monster.
Why cant we get real representation instead of fucking disgusting tranvestite hon faggots?
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>>6051206
That add should just say "I am a transbian" the rest about being a fetishist would be inferred.
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Wew lad, may want to step up your lube game because that anus is sore.
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>Why cant we get real representation
Transparent was pretty close since they shown all the tranny memes: transbian hon who was literally kicked out of a women's bathroom, barely passable tranny hooker with AIDS and a passable young tranny who gets all the men.

And don't forget the TERF camp. Priceless.
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>>6051287
ex-hooker*
sorry
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Not to mention she is basically responsible for a vehicular manslaughter due to her texting while driving on the highway, although she was acquitted because she can pay for the best.

Yet, that is conveniently forgotten due to her being 'brave' and 'courageous'. Okay, well that may be true.. But how about the fact that she is a horrible role model? How about the fact that she is shallow and materialistic? That's not taking into account the blood on her Olympic caliber hands (with all due respect; Bruce Jenner the Olympian was a badass)

That's all well and good coming out and making a statement about it. If that helped some trans people feel better about themselves, that's great.


But she is not 'queen tranny' by any stretch of the imagination. It's funny, it seems like a lot of the people attacking those who criticize her are not actually trans people themselves and have no idea what the fuck they are talking about. They just hopped on the band wagon like the incapable-of-logical-thought drones they are.
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>>6051287
oh god it was sooo awful. "Whats the T?" was terrible too basically "What is a dragqueen?" The opposite sex for the FTM was pretty good but the MTF was a turbo hon. I saw Boys Dont Cry and that was a really good movie. Also I saw a documentary about boys and how they werent allowed to have feelings and stuff and a lot of that really touched on the trans issues even though it was about boys. That one was called "The mask you live in" and was on netflix like last week.
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>>6051476
What is "what's the T?"
I kept hearing that in Tangerine
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so what do you think of Channel E!'s other programming?
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>>6051476
>>6051287

You guys do realize you're just putting money in her pocket right?

If you despise her so much, why watch the show in the first place? I couldn't watch that drivel for 5 minutes. I guess it's sort of like a guilty pleasure sort of thing? Like housewives except with trannies? Which I still don't get [housewives], but whatever works for you I guess.

In general, I think TV is bad for you, let alone that horrible excuse for a person's reality show.
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>>6051206
>Why cant we get real representation instead of fucking disgusting tranvestite hon faggots?
Transitioning in the United States is expensive and because America is so socially conservative there is strong pressure to try and bottle up dysphoria. As a result, most of the trans people who transition are probably a bit older - so they can be away from families and so they can have saved up money for transition. In fact I'll point you to this study about American trans people;
http://fusion.net/story/124989/transgender-census-who-transitions-when-and-where/
80% are over 25 and 47% transitioned over 25. Perhaps this show is more representative than you first thought.
What you're asking for is a show that presents trans people as literally indistinguishable from cis people. But if they're trying to be representative, well, maybe most trans people ARE distinguishable from cis people. Also desu if they wanted to be really representative they'd probably have to include a bunch of social justice types who are actively opposed to passing because they think it's cisnormative.
Tell me, what stuff about them would cause an "actual" trans girl to commit suicide? Because to me, it sounds like you're the trans girl equivalent of gay men who hate on everyone that's not 100% gender conforming masc4masc and "normal".
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>>6051523
Not even the person you were replying to but just thought I'd jump in and say that you lost me at ..

Stop in my tracks. Totally misread that. I thought you were one of the annoying SJW PC types when really you were bashing them. Kudos, we need more people like you.
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>>6051589
Uhh...I don't think they were necessarily bashing them. Seems more like they're trying to say that the trans girls here all have this sort of self loathing hatred of any trans woman that isn't a well adjusted, 100% passable, straight and politically moderate trutrans caricature. That, and they have this unrealistic expectation that only those specific types of trans women should be represented in the media when in reality they're only a minority of trans women.

I get it, it's respectability politics. Pretty common in heavily marginalized and stigmatized minorities. You want to appear normal and non-threatening to normalfags and bigots in the hopes that less and less of them will hate you and others like you. But the reality is that most of us aren't passable, straight, or well adjusted. A lot of us even look like straight up men in drag. The reasons for which being different for everyone.

Putting up an idealized and politically safe effigy of trans women when the realities of our existences are a lot more complex and nuanced than that is not only short sighted, it's counter-productive.
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>>6051499
http://www.imdb.com/video/wab/vi3255673113
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>>6051523
Real trans dont make it to fucking 30 years old because they either transition or kill themselves. Every transgirl Ive met has either mutilated themselves or attempted suicide multiple times. Just because you manipulate and skew 90% of the numbers by throwing in a bunch of 65 year old failed cis male sickos who just latch onto T in order to legitimize their degeneracy, doesnt make it true or an accurate representation.

Its like grabbing black men from detroit and prison and saying this is what it means to be a black man, doesnt make it true. Just because its popular opinion and PC doesnt mean its correct or reality. Psychs and Endos arent even seeing these people. They are just self-diagnosing and people treat them as legit.

what stuff about them would cause an "actual" trans girl to commit suicide?
>fathering children
>having sex with a female if youre a girl
>allowing someone to see you naked
>crossdressing when you dont pass
>not having a good voice
>not dressing your age
>acting like a 10 year old child
>trying to be a teenage girl
>not acting like a mature woman your age
>thinking you pass looking like that
>thinking thats okay
>having hundreds of millions of dollars and not transitioning
>not transitioning the second the chance was available when most trans would cut their arm off to pass
>lying about everything youve supposedly experienced when you havent at all
>NOT HAVING GENDER DYSPHORIA
>being able to live a successful happy life for 50 years and then decide oh im actually a lady
>thinking gender dysphoria is like being slightly disappointed you couldnt wear a sundress
>speaking at all ever if you dont have a passing voice
>claiming your dragqueen hobby is you being a girl
>having completely no understanding of girls and social cues
>not knowing and acting like a girl in general
>not being any different than a transvestite other then you say youre transexual
>etc etc etc
>http://imgur.com/a/0VDGq
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>>6051783
No people need to stop labeling people who arent transexuals as transexuals when they are transvestites or dragqueens. Its wrong and hurts and is humilating to people who actually are. Its like someone who pretends to be handicapped and sits in a wheel chair. Its fine if youre ugly or dont pass but the moment you dont act like any other normal trans girl and put up all these red flags everywhere and are missing basic fundamental concepts of being transexual, then you arent trans. Youre just a dragqueen in denial. There cant be two groups with dramatically different concepts of the same idea. One is right and one is wrong. Or there is a group of heavily heavily damaged transexuals and the rest arent. I think its far more likely that one group is legit while the other is just forcing themselves to conform to a stereotype that they simply arent and are just trying their best to fit in a group because nobody else wants them.
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>>6051206
I said this a year ago and no one listened.
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>>6051995
You're an idiot.
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>>6051995
your criteria basically boil down to
>don't pass
>didn't transition young enough (they might have taken a lot of struggling with it)
>not good at behaving like a woman (because they were not socialised as one and that stuff's not easy to pick up)
>not behaving maturely (because Real Women are never immature)
>not being straight (because Real Women aren't straight)
>iffy about having downstairs surgery
So basically the only true trans women are either 100% passable whitebread middle of the road straight women, or are so mentally weak they kill themselves because they're not 100% passable whitebread middle of the road straight women
I know >muh projection is an /lgbt/ maymay but I think trans women who don't fit your mould remind you of aspects of yourself you don't like and all this anger and butthurt you feel towards them is actually displaced self-hatred
go to a therapist, hon
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>>6051783
there's a difference between
>unpassing transwoman
and
>HAHAHA FUCK YOU SHITLORDS PASSING IS OUTDATED MEME CONCEPT I WANT TO BE A WOMAN BUT I DON'T CARE IF I LOOK LIKE ONE TOTALLY NOT SOUR GRAPES THO
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>>6051995
This. If you haven't transitioned or killed yourself by puberty, you really weren't trans.
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>>6052390
Look at the album of "fake trans women" >>6051995 posted, there's fetishists and drag queens in there, but there's also a bunch of unpassing trans women. I don't think they're fake, they're just not passable.
>>6052425
Or maybe some people are better at not killing themselves than others? I mean if you're stuck with a family who won't let you transition, and you've no idea how to get secret transition supplies online, does that mean if you don't kill yourself you're not a real trans person?
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>>6052333
>being a normal woman and desiring to be normal and not look like a freak and blend in and be treated like any other woman is now a bad thing

I bet you have pink/blue hair Stephoknee.
>>>/out/
>>>/susans/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWGD4DV71pA
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>>6052446
I'll restate it so maybe you can understand better:
If you haven't transitioned or killed yourself by puberty, you haven't experienced dysphoria, therefore you are not trans.
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>>6052529
I feel like you're just saying what you think will get a response. When you're fucking 12 you don't know any better, I only discovered what trans people were until I was 13 at least and it was 3 more years after that until I managed to come out to my parents and get treatment.

Change by puberty to after puberty and I can agree with you.
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>>6054561
I left home when I was 17 to transition and lived in a meth house and moved/sold drugs to be able to support myself and become a girl. I did that back then rather than live as a boy anymore.
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>>6051995
My dysphoria hitted on me in my late teens.

I was raised in a very very very conservative place so I couldn't even say that I was bisexual. IF I did, I would end sleeping in the streets.

Because of that, and ignorance, I repressed myself and decided to "settle for masculinity".

I failed miserably.

Then at 30 the pressure became unmanageable, no matter how much I tried to repress myself. I thought that if I had to live as a man I would be a bitter creep and become truly evil because of pure anger at life.

But guess what? transitioning in m country is difficult as fuck, since, in Spain, unemplyment rates are near 30%, nobody gets a fucking job here. so how the fuck do I scape from the family home and start transition? Seriously considering prostitution.

If I'm to live as a man I'll probably become the most evil son of a bitch you'll ever meet, because I'd hate my life, so, before ending it, I would make society pay for all the problems I wouldn't had if they were more open and I could have more freedom to be myself.

See? There's plenty of people that isn't as clear cut as you think. People comes from all ways of life, and not everyone has the same chances.

Open your mind, seriously.

Besides that, yes, we have a serious PR issue, we have to manage a better public image for the collective.
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"Caitlyn" Jenner first announced.

Normies:
>This is a huge step forward for trans-people's rights and public image!

Trannies:
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>6054931
Nobody is talking about you though. We are talking about mostly privileged middle class and in jenners case a 1% of the 1% Olympic athlete hundred millionaire saying Oh I couldn't transition or pay to have someone train my voice. I struggled so hard etc. It's just excuses that are plain and simple lies.
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Some1 gimme an episode I wanna cringe.
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>>6055709
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koOTP7PmtW8
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>>6051206

Does anyone else find the idea of fathering children kind of hot in the sense that you transition and pass right after, so your son only knows you as his mother, then you tell him you're trans when he's older, and he starts wanting to fuck you? The idea of getting fucked by your young, masculine son while you're his feminized father and he's thought of you as his mother this whole time just seems hot tbph, senpai. And don't say it's something that can't happen, I saw a pic of someone who transitioned after getting a girl pregnant at 15 holding her son or something, so it's definitely something that could happen.

I was seriously considering freezing sperm for this reason, but then the stress of getting anymore masculine was too much and I said "Fuck it" so I could start self-medding.

>>6051995

>NOT HAVING GENDER DYSPHORIA
>would cause an "actual" trans girl to commit suicide

Senpai? Are you still trying to make sense?
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>>6052446

I think >>6052425 is being satirical and saying >>6051995 is basically the same as the hons she criticizes. I don't think there are enough trannies who started that early on this board to have any that seriously believe that.
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>>6055715
What
Just get SRS.
Just fucking get SRS oh my god make it stop
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>>6052390
It's likely a coping mechanism. If you started after puberty, chances are your bone structure is irreversibly masculinized and even with all the makeup, surgery and pantomiming of the opposite sex, you'll never really pass when put under scrutiny. Maybe they realized that it isn't exactly healthy to have the ultimatum of either shelling out for expensive and invasive surgeries in the hopes of 'passing' or committing suicide.

Maybe, just maybe, they decided to go against the grain and are trying to accept their bodies and the limits of what transition can do for them. Jesus Christ, you uppity trannies are regressive as fuck. Just because other trannies aren't as suicidal and mentally ill as you doesn't mean they're not trans.
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>>6055735
No thats fucking disgusting.
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>>6055715
holy christ
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>>6055715
Shit like this is why I'm gonna stay in the closet forever despite the fact I could pass more easily than most.
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>>6052030
If someone decides to take hormones, get surgery and live as the opposite sex, most people are gonna consider that person a transsexual. The criteria for gender dysphoria is mostly subjective and entirely based on the patient's testimony. People transition for different reasons. Even back in the old days when the sexist Harry Benjamin style transsexual caricature was the clinical standard, a lot of people lied and put on a facade to get treatement.

Honestly, I'd bet that if they did brain scans or whatever to test whether or not if someone's trutrans, the majority of the trannies here wouldn't pass it. Most were just autistic beta male tg fetishists that fapped to too much trap porn on /d/ and /b/.
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Honestly? She's just a really old, suppressed trans woman who has had to stay in the closet while her neurologically haywire family flaunts it up in the public eye.

Of course she's a hon, she's ancient.

Of course she's mental, her family is mental.

I don't even like her, and the butthurt is still getting old.
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>>6055709
I was trying to find something and instead I found this.
Some crazy religious fanatic that tldr:
"what if bruce jenner had to commit a blood sacrifice to enter the higher levels of the echelon of the illuminati?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-Lqe-l0G_E
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>>6051995
So your belief is that dysphoria is experienced in the same way and at the same level of intensity for all people who have it? There are no people who feel it more or less intensely than you? There are no people who have a different idea of what it means to be a woman? Are all women the same? Do broad-shouldered cis women have dysphoria?
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>>6055834

Why does no other tranny share my incest fetish? :(
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>>6052527
You have a desire to get no respect outside of being a mother?
(even teachers and nurses get shit for not being servants)
What about men only respecting your space, because they wouldn't want another guy to cluck them?

That's normal if you don't live on either coast. Then again that's your goal "Janet", you bland desperate woman.
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>>6055823
Good job champ
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>>6051206
>I feel sick to think that this is what people think of us.
>This is who they think we are.

as a cis-male gay man who watches the show, let me say that it has helped me get over a lot of my trans-phobia and begin to understand what trans people are thinking.

for example, at first bruce said he was only interested in dating women (mind blown) but gradually he has now started to admit that he wants to date men but not while he still has a dick, which means he has deep-seated internal homophobia.

it may not be perfect, but you have to admit that cait has made trans issues the topic of conversations that we never had 5 years ago.

and, by comparison, a gay man like me seems almost normal haha, jk
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>>6051995
You clearly never saw the Diane Sawyer interview are completely talking out of your ass. I couldn't be bothered to read your whole list, but so much of it was clearly false assumptions you have placed on Jenner due to your own internalized transphobia and self-loathing. Also, you sound like a bitter hon.
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>>6056018
No thats just what hes parroting off the others and what he read in some book from some cromagnon witch of the waste hyper jew and off wikipedia.

Pic related its what a REAL trans woman looks and acts like.

You know since they wrote the book and all.

He's just like every hon ever that thinks MUH VAGINA defines your entire sexuality.

Personally I cant wait until he chops his dick off and figures out that jack fucking shit is different and he commits Seppuku.

>>6056053
Stop accepting failed cis men as people.
Those are fucking fake tears where he thinks hes struggled soooo badly. Hes just failed /femgen/ at best that tried to find self worth in exercise but quickly discovered that he cant be a qt3.14 dragqueen and is trying to make up for that lost period of his life where he never got to masquerade as a woman.

Everything he does throughout the show its like he's some kind of fucking robot AI learning how to be a woman emulating others when if he's trans, he should know these things and understand them because its supposed to be who he is at his core but hes not at all. He's just imitating and there is no sense of authenticity at all. He's just paid everyone off and everyone is using him to get experiences when in reality, they dont give two fucks about his bullshit.

All these hons just talk about all the jobs they cant get because MUH TRANS. No you cant get a job because you act and look like a fucking freak. Oh I cant get a job because I act and look like a freak BETTER GO SUCK DICKS like its some fucking mandatory thing to sell out your womanhood so you can look like that? Please I'd detransition before I'd sell out my womanhood. If you were a prostitute you failed at life and youre disgusting. Literally too fucking stupid to pass somehow anyway. Too fucking autistic to not ruin your life. Too fucking weak to not dress up at work if it puts you in danger. Go fuck yourself. Thats your own fault degenerates. Keep your aids to yourself.
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>>6056086
>Stop accepting failed cis men as people.
>I don't like someone so I am going on a campaign to dehumanize them.

I stopped reading right there.
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>>6056086
>Bitter and Self Loathing Tranny: The Post
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>>6056114
>>6056107
>Prostitute is a respectable profession for trans women
Stay aids filled hons.
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>>6056190

It's not a respectable profession for anyone, but I would say that it doesn't make anyone any less trans for doing it (saying this as someone who would never whore, either). Maybe it makes them more stupid, impatient, irreligious (or not virtuous by the definitions of many religions), myopic, desperate, dysphoric, etc., but certainly not less trans.
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>>6056219
I cant think of anything more dysphoric than meeting up and sucking random dudes dicks while they call me a faggot and try and curb stomp me and I purposely make my life a living stereotype. How hard is it to put 5 fucking seconds of effort in even if you were absolutely dysphoric out of of your mind and in the 1980s go to any of the millions of gay events happening and go up to any fucking person and be like hi want a free cock slave and bam done. I mean shit even straight guys would just say yes.
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They are all super nice people . I met them in LA and loved them. Elle is gorgeous and only 18. Candis and Zackary are so sweet.
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>>6056086
Typical gay idiot speaking about things he doesn't know a shit.

Femininity is, in part, socially constructed, so if you didn't have the chance to pick it up because you were forced to live as a man, there are obviously things thant you must learn.

Think of this: femininity in Africa is lived diferently than femininity in Europe. An european woman would have a hard time trying to fit into a group of african women, and there would be things she'll have to learn.

Also, transexuality is defined by the DESIRE to live as a givengender and the FEELING that you pertain to that gender. This means thant KNOWLEDGE has nothing to do with it.

You just hate ugly old transwomen. Go back to fap to your cute thai ladyboys and Sarina Valentina, I bet you consider those to be real women, and that Lana Wachowsky is just a perverted man for you.
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>>6056348

There's more than just the hooker tranny stereotype. There's the drug abuser and nerd stereotypes for example. There are so many you might even fit into one. Anyway, men who use prostitutes aren't all that great, but I don't think the majority are quite so bad they would abuse someone that way. The whoring those trannies do also isn't about the sex like for many prostitutes, it's about making money.

>even straight guys would just say yes

That hyperbole is too extreme.

>>6056379

Who are you referring to?
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>>6056086
so what do you propose non-trutrans mentally ill failed cis men do to deal with their mental illness?
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>>6056412
The cast of I am Cait
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>>6056664
You met them? This is definitely a story I want to hear.
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>>6055077
I just don't know how these celebrities can become the absolute caricatures of everything that's disgusting about trans people. First we had Chaz "I'm still a lesbian" Bono now we have Caitlyn "teehee I vote republican because I care more about my tax breaks than giving a shit about other trans people" Jenner.

I'd rather hear about Buck Angel on the media than these dumbshits because even though he does porn and some weird shit, he's a normal person in interviews and outside of that it seems. All these celebrities pretend like their normal people but then you hear their interviews or read literally anything that comes out of their mouth and you realize that they're fucking weird as shit and the only reason anyone puts up with them being complete jackasses is because they're rich and "popular."

The only legit trans person in media was the lady from Orange is the New Black and she got overshadowed by the Jenner fiasco.
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>>6057016
I met most. Didn't meet Cait or Kate Bornsteirn. Met Elle at trans visibility day at mall. Met Zachary at lunch with a friend. Those are the only two I spoke to or spent real time with. Loved them. Others I said hi and hugged at various places. I met so many people on vacation

Having a famous neighbor helps.
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>>6057101
Oh please. Audrey was awesome on big brother. Janet Mock is great. Jenny Boylan is fantastic
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I also met Lana Moore and liked her. However I think she hates me cause I got drunk and started texting her in the middle of the night and she really didn't like that
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gentlemen please there's no reason to be upset, let's take a moment to congratulate ourselves on being the right kind of special snowflake. We all know Dota 2 is the superior game but we don't have to bash those who prefer HoN.
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>>6051206
That's an insult to susans op

No one on susans talks about gender free orgasms
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Bruce is just another Kardashian
Why people enjoy watching this family is beyond my understanding
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This is just how you spread awareness. Through capitalism. People enjoy watching garbage and they pay for it. It happened with gays too.

Lot of people here don't remember it, but when I was a teen I watched Queer as Folk in secret. There had never been such a show before on TV. Did it give a good image of gay community? No, it was pretty much your average British "culture" in the 90s: casual sex and alcohol. But it made people more aware, for better or worse.
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You are all mentally ill and its quite sad society tells you its fine, just remove or invert your penis and in the case of bruce jenner become a plastic surgery and makeup monster.
If only you got loving therapy that helped you solve your issues instead of brainless liberal retards.
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>>6056086
So... cool to know that you're a religious whacko or something. Muh sacred femininity!
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>>6051995

9/10 kek

Although middle-left isn't even trans.
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>>6057684
>"Treatment aimed at trying to change a person's gender identity and expression to become more congruent with sex assigned at birth has been attempted in the past without success (Gelder & Marks, 1969; Greenson, 1964), particularly in the long term (Cohen-Kettenis & Kuiper, 1984; Pauly, 1965). Such treatment is no longer considered ethical."
http://www.wpath.org/uploaded_files/140/files/IJT%20SOC,%20V7.pdf
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>>6055077
Best part of it all
Was tumblr and 4chan reeeeeeeing in unison
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>>6057713
Encoraging it is very acceptable though right? Nothing says ethical and successful treatment like a 50% suicide rate.
You just dont want to change, you are addicted to your lifestyle and the culture built around it. Just like the useless NEET is addicted to apathy and failure and offs himself at staggering rates before 30, the transexual who falls for the liberal media's indictrination on normalizing irreversible genital mutilation will off themself at a staggeringly high rate.

Its not too late to change and live a normal life friend.
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>>6057781

>people say trans people don't pass and actively harass the ones they spot and keep them from living as the gender they see themselves as (e.g. bathroom bills)
>many are raised with information on trans people hidden from them or if they do find out about them, they're shown that society disapproves of them, causing them to repress so long they cannot pass for a cis person
>somehow, when trans people kill themselves it's the fault of transition not being the sufficient or correct treatment while all of these social factors are ignored

>Its not too late to change and live a normal life friend.

It's not too late for you to transition, though you'll definitely be a hon, senpai.
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>>6057694
Im not religious. I know you dont understand because I WAS ONCE A MAN but girls hate each other for minute shit like having bad shoes much less I SUCKED DICKS FOR MONEY.
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>>6057781
This is clearly b8 but the trans accepting liberal establishment is very recent in our history. Instead, society and the medical establishments have largely been treating transsexuals as mentally ill freaks for decades. The current suicide statistics reflect that treatment, not the emerging attitudes of acceptance we're seeing today.
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>>6057781
I think the suicide rate is so high because all these people arent really transexuals and once they realized they arent and they ruined their lives and are just a fucking monstrosity, they blow their brains out.

As soon as I got on hormones, literally all of my pain dissolved and I never think about suicide anymore. I just feel myself and normal now.
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>>6057837
Ah, the classic using your own position as an insult, truly a classic.
Nobody forced you to dress in women's clothing, and nobody is required to think you look the part if you dont.

If you look like a freak and have no chance of passing, dont transition, get some help. If you DO pass bathroom bills mean fuck all because nobody is going to protest a feminine dude who looks like a girl everywhere but the dick in their washroom.

Transgenderism is the only mental illness we're too scared to treat people for. Imagine the disaster if we normalized fucking schizos with their headmate fantasies.
Back to tumblr delusional retard!

Pic more related than ever
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>>6057860
The classic tumblr defence, all dissenting opinions are trolls! My safe space is an echo chamber!

Dont worry tumblr freaks Im going to sleep you can agree in unison again without any different opinions, your safe space has been restored.


>>6057868
Hello person living in the real world! Glad to see not all of your community has succumbed to tumblr mental retardation.
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>>6055868
>Most were just autistic beta male tg fetishists that fapped to too much trap porn on /d/ and /b/
lul, never going to the /mtfg/ or chat rooms for this reason

The amount of sexualization these people apply to all aspects of transition, and then trying to honestly chastize old hons? I hadn't heard a group of BOYS imitate female sex sounds for giggles since middle school. hah fags
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>>6051995
>having completely no understanding of girls and social cues
got me there.
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>>6057874

That's not an insult, this is recognizing the signs of a tranny in denial, Miss.

Nobody is forcing people to act like assholes to trans people either. And I'm talking about trans people who haven't been developed by the wrong puberty, trans children. People wouldn't even have any non-passing trannies to be disgusted by if they had done things right the first time around and let them be themselves when they were children. Everything would have been sorted out.

Schizophrenia seems to be caused either by too much dopamine in the pre-frontal cortex or an over-sensitivity to it. Which makes it a chemical imbalance, or what's usually referred to as a mental illness. Being transgender is a birth defect of no lesser cause than an arrangement of the brain in the gender opposite the sex of the body.
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>>6051206
thats it
i'm fucking done with transition, I don't even think passing is real at this point
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>>6057944
Ah, disagreeing with the leftist delusion of post puberty transexual passability is a sign that I am a transexual huh, whatever gets you to sleep at night faggot

Ps. Not an argument
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>>6057944
Hello tumblr!
Here is my friend, hes a doctor and I think he would have provided an excellent chemical solution to you
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>>6057944
Mfw
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>>6057990
>>6057999
>>6058009
>image.png
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>>6057944
XD
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>>6058023
I can afford a phone something you might not know about ;)
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>>6058023
Not
An argument
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>>6058037

If you can't see the arguments in >>6057944, you're beyond help.

Pro-tip: They're the second and third paragraphs.
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>>6058037
>>6058026
>>6058040
yea but you've spent like 10-12 minutes replying to him
not even arguing
ur being a living joke
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>>6058051
I presented my argument and got the same tumblr pseudo science and matrix style fact dodging so why not respond to shitposts with shitposts?

As long as tumblr zombies keep spouting "no you see my community has a 50% suicide rate because you fucking white males dont use my prefered pronouns!" When most teansexual suicides come from people who never get a loving, compassionate therapist to work them through their issues and instead get told by disgusting murderous human trash on tumblr that its ok to transition even its impossible for you to pass and therefore impossible for you to be happy with yourself.

Hypocritical liars, if you cared for these poor folks you'd help them, not encourage them to mimic your poor choices.
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>>6058095

>no you see my community has a 50% suicide rate because you fucking white males dont use my prefered pronouns!

You're oversimplifying. Easily 95% of society was completely against transgender people until only a few years ago. Even now, very large swaths have very little sympathy but many judgments based on prejudices.

>When most teansexual suicides come from people who never get a loving, compassionate therapist to work them through their issues

Do you have a source for that? Do you have any proof that works?
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>>6058095
LIFETIME ATTEMPT YOU FUCKING ILLITERATE TARD, THIS INCLUDES BEFORE TRANSITION WHERE MOST OF THESE HAPPEN
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>>6058124
No, but I have a basic understanding of the treatment of mental illness. Telling the mentally ill "ah you know I was going to advance treatment so you can live a long happy life free from your illness bur liberal media and tumblr have romanticized your illness and made ut career ending to try and prevent or treat so we're just going to call it normal" Is worse than doing mothing or applying therapy that doesnt work. Your movement has halted research on the subject.

Pic related, your communist hero looking down at the liberal paradise you've created.

Ps. Bullying victims dont have a 50 fucking percent suicide rate if they arent also mentally ill
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>>6058164
I understood that but fail to see your point, 50% is 50%, are you triggered? Here is a picture to calm you down.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?nohtml5=False&v=zY-1Um1Gzzk
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>>6058184

>No

Wow, and here you are, acting like you understand more than any of us do. Your lacking arguments and insistence you're correct despite that, point to you being an in-denial tranny after all.

Research was halted because it doesn't work. Everything used to improve transition was taken from procedures that had nothing to do with trans people (like the technique for preserving nerves from the penis of penile cancer patients being used to preserve nerves for SRS). If something could be done for trans people other than transition, it would have already been developed from other fields' work. Do you honestly think your therapy idea is novel and untried? Why don't you take the time to realize that's the first thing everyone thinks of, even trans people?

>your communist hero

I'm not communist.

>Bullying victims dont have a 50 fucking percent suicide rate if they arent also mentally ill

Bullying victims generally aren't rejected by their family and every friend they have either.

>>6058195

The statistic cannot reliably be used to say whether transition works or not because it doesn't differentiate between suicide attempts before or after transition, so it can't be used to assess transition's effectiveness. That's what it means.
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>>6058247
Heil hitler
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>>6057566
you tried m8
have a (You)
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>>6051995
>tfw I actually know a mtf transwoman who looks like a thinner, more jew-y version of the "transgender" with the dyed red hair and matching glasses in that pic
>tfw she's the physical embodiment of tumblr
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqyfOU7HaAE

don't make fun of her
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>>6060712
What the fuck is this? Why do women buy into this stupid shit so much?
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