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old >>6026795
let's do our best, girls!
i feel really good rn mtfg
(you) this post and I will tell you that I love you
Voting for Hillary on tuesday.
bored, ask me stuff
at least lecture was neat today
>one chance to exist, ever
>be ugly + trans
>>6027775
(You) me, gem; I'm also feeling good.
Let's beat off the bullies together.
>>6027780
I love you anon!!
>>6027778
Whats the worse thing about being fat?
>>6027779
You can still be a krogan
>>6027786
idk when I was fat it wasn't that annoying to me because belly blocked view on penis
now I'm quite happy about thin lyfe tho
as long as you are healthy and happy weight doesn't matter imo, the "healthy"-part being the more important one obviously
We're all gonna make it, right?
>>6027755
24, 3 months, 3cm.
it's nuts, i don't feel quite so self conscious about them now even though i've only lost that little bit.
>>6027793
That's great to hear. It's just the little things that add up that make us happier, you know?
>>6027775
That's a really nice way to start off a day and a thread. Hoping to be feeling good soon, too.
Keep the good feels coming.
>>6027775
stay awesome.
>>6027796
it is, it is!
i'm actually feeling a lot better lately, i hope things are going ok with you too anon!
Robin is fucking right,
NHS shafted me yet again!
My CBT appointment has been pushed back even further.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SUzcDUERLo
I feel like a drug addict going into relapse.
Finished some cardio and the urge to go lift things, eat a fuckload of protein and repress is killing me
Running and this little voice in my head is like "be a man. You are a man. Don't let them corrupt you, don't throw this away"
>>6027803
>NHS not shafting someone
This is always the greater surprise to hear about.
CBT to what end, if you don't mind sharing?
>>6027797
I love you akaka! I think so too!
>>6027799
Stay even more awesome pan, I love you!
>>6027809
>Not becoming a fit woman
>>6027811
show butt
>>6027763
Edie is the snake on the plane your tucked gt?
>>6027816
I totally would anon but if I get up I might throw up o_o
soon though okay?? I promise
>>6027817
yes lol
not to mention literally every fucking man in this airport is staring me up to down. wtf is it about having red hair that makes men stare at you nonstop???
>>6027824
they think you're on fire (subconsciously) at first
airports HATE fire
>tfw your uk gender clinic clinician gets back to your GP saying not to prescribe hormones despite self medding because of deviance from the holy pathway and fuck nhs guidelines that were introduced that say otherwise
>tfw your GP said he'd call a local endocrinologist for advice since Dr. Genderfascist was having none of it
>tfw you told them your HRT runs out on April 18th (it actually runs out 1st May but shhh)
>tfw they still say until they get further advice they can't do nothing because of patient safety
>saying that it looks like it's hotel bathroom testes removal or suicide time then, thanks for nothing, hows that for patient safety
>the doctor's face when
>tfw crying hysterically in a doctor's surgery bathroom for 30 minutes
>tfw walking home in the rain sobbing
>tfw going to bed
>tfw council housing development building works nearby means i can't even cry myself to sleep because of pneumatic drills
i hate this country
>>6027824
All my exes had a thing for red hair, too. It is very eye catching, since it's not common, potentially natural, and attached to someone attractive (in your case)
>>6027810
well first they're going to put my nads in a vice
I can't remember a point in my life where I wasn't depressed and just when anything goes wrong the feeling is like standing in the middle of a stadium and having a crowd of voices all jeering and I can't even leave the house any more for fear of doing things wrong
I dont answer the phone, I just stay in my room
I cant enjoy any activity with the possibility of failure
my greatest joy used to be fighting games
now the anxiety and fear that goes through my chest when i do anything like that brings me to the floor
even stuff artistically, just anything i do wrong turns into full body shut down
this was going to be the appointment where I get assessed before treatment but its been put off again. My life just has no value until i get past this. It was always there but never crippling, happened in public recently and it was then that I sought out help
>>6027812
Muscles and strength were part of my repression.
I want to be small and skinny
>>6027834
>well first they're going to put my nads in a vice
Wat
>>6027824
Its cause you're hot ;)
(get it?? get it?? Hottt ;) cause like, red and fire and hot :D :D )
>>6027828
Jesus christ, i wish i could give you a hug right now.
UK just seems to lame it out when it comes to mental health doesnt it
>>6027828
Shit, where are you at?? I mean that's pretty fucked up.
I'm being sent to the GIC at Nottingham (first appointment still like 8 months away)
I told my GP I was self medding and he just asked me to stop, told me spiro is going to kill me if I use it and that he wouldn't do blood tests.
>>6027791
You look like rickety cricket from always sunny
good night mtfg
I am pretty tired
>>6027838
just DO it senpai
Got missgendered twice today without saying anything. Enough is enough.
I have around 8000€
>Do I fix my huge chin
>Do I fix my hairline
Can't do both because my next expense will be SRS which I really need.
I don't know if it's possible to fix my teeth...
>>6027849
I think it's more your shitty country.
Like certain people can just sense Y chromosomes and they would be able to clock even the best passers in /mtfg/
>>6027853
But if you had to choose. Which one?
>>6027847
>rickety cricket from always sunny
Huh. Never heard that one.
Is that a neutral comment?
What about now? Still Rickety Cricket?
>>6027811
Aww, love you too, gem. Thank you for helping me start the day off on a positive note.
>>6027849
Here are your options
>move to the first world
>get the ridiculous amoubt of therapy you need
>orthodontics
>>6027857
Your nose is really cute.
>>6027857
Not the same person, but yep, you still look like cricket.
Also, pulling your shirt tight behind your back is silly.
>>6027849
A bullet is much cheaper than freaking out because people do not posses mind reading powers.
Unless you are saying I should judge people based on looks...
>>6027849
I wonder what your good angles are hiding that is telling others.
>>6027853
can you really sense the Y chromosome?
>>6027860
>orthodontics
Already got appointment this Monday!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtF6Jej8yb4
Must. Repress...
>>6027857
>pony shirt
Anybody have a really disgusting reaction image for this?
>>6027849
i don't know mate
your jaw/chin and your forehead looks fairly proportional to your face so there is nothing wrong with them?
maybe the nose?
looks p manly
>>6027864
I wear XLs and they kind of hang on me. I dunno, I was just trying to gauge myself.
>>6027862
It's really not; it's huge.
That's all the pics I could stomach to take.
>>6027866
Which angle do you want anon? Show photo and I try to recreate it the best I can.
>>6027871
Awh snap that's great. I'd highly recommend getting out of Poland tho
>>6027834
I wish I could unfuck your medical system, Britt-anon. That all sounds really dispiriting, devaluing. I wish you better luck with your next appointment, and hope that you can find comfort in less stressful things in the meantime.
>>6027878
>nose hair
>>6027875
The nose... most people say to not touch the nose. But Bart really want to make it shorter.
I like my nose. It's not perfect but it's better than jew nose or nose after visible nose job.
>tfw scared to trip
you know
you people (me too) always worry about your features like chin or brow bone but it's usually the nose that tips the gender balance
>>6027884
Oh yeah my nose is pretty hairy. 5 more years without HRT and my ears would be similar.
>>6027870
Yeah. It's a rare ability and only possessed by those who actively look for it. You can just inexplicably tell.
I know when ive seen an mtf. But I don't say anything because they look and act like a women.
It's like a primal pheromone thing.
>>6027878
you look fem from this angle, fäm
i don't know maybe people are just blind. i mean cis women get misgendered too
maybe you just have a BDD and you should work with that more than anything else
>>6027838
That'll show them. It'd be satisfying for a moment, for sure. It's all kinds of fucked up, being stared at - you can feel the eyes locking on you. Is there anywhere more private you could wait, there?
>cis women get misgendered too
Oh hon
>>6027892
b-but why can't sense my Y chromosome? can you smell the Y chromosome?
>>6027870
No. Anon doesn't have supernatural powers.
>>6027901
can't I*
>>6027894
Got checked by two psychologist. I don't have BDD according to them.
update: one man literally licked his lips while looking at me and some old husband turned his head. along with idk how many other guys.
men fucking disgust me.
in other news I'm waiting to board my flight and I got pinkberry. but forgot to grab a spoon. ;__;
>>6027909
>odourless scent
Uuuh, I guess that's an oxymoron.
>>6027911
take selfie in mirror
>>6027911
Just lick it out while staring at their wives
>>6027911
i want all men to die desu (especially my dad)
>>6027913
It is believed that mammals detect pheromones through an organ in the nose called the VNO (Vomeronasal Organ), and connects to the hypothalamus in the brain. The VNO in humans consists of just pits that probably do not do anything. If humans do respond to hormones, most likely they use their normal olfactory system.
Since I started my transition , ive learned to hate men. Is this normal?
>>6027882
Cheers, I appreciate it
<3
>>6027923
yes
>>6027923
yeah
>>6027923
You learn to hate all normies desu
>Normie guy is aggressive and obsessed with being seen as straight
>Normie girl is manipulative and will pretend she doesn't hate you while talking behind your back
I need to get fit again
It's a good look for me
>>6027923
Yeah. It's a normal thing. Broadly, our cultural behaviours associated with masculinity involve being disrespectful toward women (the best way to show one's untamed masculinity to other males), so a lot of guys spend a long time learning how to act wrong before they ever even consider acting right.
Being creepy is just normal behaviour. See Edie's posts.
>>6027911
On the less gross note, what is pinkberry?
>>6027909
>odourless scent
uhhhhhh
>even able to pick up odorless scent
uhhhmmm
how
when are we doing this?
>>6027939
Gross. I used to be like fucking mra men have it bad shut the fuck up whiny bitches.
I think I was like being a man is so painful, and terrible. And is literally the worst thing. Look at women, they get to be women, what are they complaining about.
All that changed so fucking fast. I think as soon as I posted places asking for advice when I was questioning and got inundated with creepy messages and dick pics something clicked.
Now I just see sexism everywhere.
>>6027950
Edie I need your sagely supertranny advice. Is being a giant lezbean better?
also this plane is gigantic. I take solace in the fact that if it crashes I'm taking all these innocent people with me.
speaking of which I think it's getting ready to take off. pray 4 my soul
>>6027953
honestly yes. this may be my last post.
but relationships are hard in general so idk
all around me are familiar faces
worn out places
my dog thinks he slick lmao
>>6027791
yes
>>6027964
thank you
That's what I want to hear.
Just have to keep going. Started HRT a few days ago and I'm still excited.
>>6027950
Looks delish. Have fun, and be good to yourself!
>>6027967
>did u not hear about the woman they tried to kick out of a bathroom cus they thought she was a tranny?
source pls
>>6027955
I pray4u evrytiem. One last question, are cis girls or trans girls better? I have a cis gf chaser. It's pretty sweet.
>>6027849
you look fine. sometimes dysphoria in others pisses me off. Don't butcher your face until its a bloated mess.
>>6027908
yeah you do.
>>6027967
the true artist is every self-confident, healthy female desu
>>6027971
google, bitch
I don't rlly save links to stories and news
some butch dyke, a bouncer/security-guard or something followed them into the bathroom and pushed them up against a wall cus they thought they were a tranny
>>6027971
http://www.advocate.com/business/2015/06/17/detroit-woman-kicked-out-restaurant-bathroom-looking-man-sues
One of many such stories. I believe a new one made the news today.
>>6027967
because she's insecure, she gets misgendered from awkwardness that's all.
>>6027872
My father believes in me
I believe in myself to be a man.
>>6027864
^shit tier troll
>>6027909
Considering pheromones are made from hormone breakdown products I find that hard to believe.
>tfw no FFS
Hello everyone
>>6027991
SOMEBODY JUST GIVE ME THE FUCKING MONEY ALREADY REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WORN OUT FACES
>>6027994
JUST GET A FUCKING JOB ALREADY
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>6027991
Maybe you should pluck your eyebrows like they look in your mock up.
>>6027980
>google, bitch
>bitch
wow you are so rude to her!
>>6027842
i'm in Norfolk, my clinic is also Nottingham, my first appt is like 4-5 months away, i was referred in early September and heard literally nothing from them yet. Walter Bouman eat my severed gonads
>>6027841
thanks
i'm gonna re-order from inhouse again come monday if doctor doesn't call me even though i don't have the money to, but i'm angry and upset and why do i bother or hope that things won't go to shit. everyone tells me to stay positive and trust in the system but they're not trans, what do they know.
fuck this im going back to bed if im awake im crying
>>6027994
MUH DISABILITIES
This thread gives me feelings of doubt
>>6027994
noone cares scatman
>>6027991
>not even ffs will ever fix this hideous face
bwahahahahahahahahhaa!!!!
U G L Y
G
L
Y
>>6028007
PLUCK YO MOTHAFUCKIN BROWS CRACKA
>>6028007
Huh. I checked with a transparent overlay.
I guess you didn't.
Maybe just less shadow on your face made it look like that. Or bangs are really important.
>>6028009
Please sir, your testosterone fueled rage is scaring the children
>>6028009
nah, just
B R I T I S H
R
I
T
I
S
H
>>6027993
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDglMK9sgIQ
Ever get those happy repression feels?
It's Spartan btw. I just ran like the wind and the endorphins make me feel alive. In the blistering sun.
Feel like a man who can take on the world. I feel invincible.
I want to feel like this FOREVER . My life would be perfect if this effect never wore off.
>>6028012
noone cares scatman
>>6028004
>Honnah
Technically I'm not a hon because I'm pre-everything
>>6027849
your hair looks fine for now, I think its your nose that is the most eye catching
>>6028018
technically if you started HRT after male puberty and don't look fem before you will always be a hon my dear honnah
>>6028007
Why don't you just get a job and shut the fuck up? I think I've only ever seen you make excuses.
Just get a job, live with your parents and save for ffs.
>>6028015
robin is a ugly and disgusting MAN?
fucking obvious man.
>>6027849
nose desu
*poops on ur budding chest* oh yea bby u like that
>>6027984
I mean I'm pretty insecure and awkward too tho I guess I try to be as cheery as I can even when I'm rlly not feelin it and I do think that mannerisms and how u carry yourself and stuff can play a bigger role than some give credit for
>>6027988
also humans don't rlly have straight up pheromones at least to as great a degree as with other animals, for us it's more tied in with body odor as I understand it which is also influenced by the microbes on your skin
also pheromones aren't necessarily odorless i think?
>>6028001
it's 4chan, bitch, that's basically polite
>>6028003
>tfw u should probably pursue being officially considered disabled but the whole thing depresses u too much
>>6028021
>technically if you started HRT after male puberty and don't look fem before you will always be a hon my dear honnah
This bait
>>6028023
If I have to move back in with my parents, I will kill myself on the first night, I don't care if it hurts. No fucking way.
>>6027955
make pics waifu
>tfw your shoulders are 10 cm wider than your hips
kill me eeeeeee
>>6027784
I'm just going to hold onto this today.
And maybe watch Always Sunny because I just don't see the resemblance.
>>6028017
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6oXW_YiV6g
>>6028021
Just because you're a hon, doesn't mean that I will be a hon. If I pass then all is good :3
>>6028016
I know the feels, except I haven't trained in weeks which means I haven't really repressed in weeks
>>6028029
What are you on now, welfare? Can't you continue to be a welfare leech AND get a job? I don't understand what the problem is here
shops from the surgeon. nosejob /when/
FUARRRRRRK
>>6028035
It's still cardio and I'm still banning myself from lifting.
But fuck it feels amazing. I feel worse when I can't exercise.
dont neglect exercise tho. It makes dysphoria worse
>>6028029
>I will kill myself on the first night,
You know that most of us wouldn't give a shit about you and we'd actually be happy when you died, right?
What are your plans for today, girls?
>>6028041
2 sec in paint
>>6028039
No, I'm currently in the process of applying for welfare. UK bureaucracy a shit. And as the Tory government are even forcing people with terminal cancer into work at the moment [literally, look it up], I doubt they'll be sympathetic to my plight. You can get some money if you find work but some of the welfare stops after you've been in work for 6 weeks or more. They also scrapped all housing welfare for 18-21s last year, and I'm only just 21.
>>6028047
>projection
>>6028049
you're an artist
>>6028045
You clearly no nothing about my home life if you're suggesting I move back there, check a few threads back.
>>6028054
*know
>>6028045
>wishing for someone to die
Mmmmm that Smell of edge in the morning
>>6028048
Why does this pic give me serious Akira vibes?
also idk, sleep, practice drums, hang out at my college campus and play smash bros. with the nerds at the café
>>6028051
>I'm only just 21.
Your 21 and yet you look far far older than the other regulars who are also 21+ here and more disgusting.
Why cant you just kill yourself now?
>>6028060
It's worth a shot. If it doesn't work out and I just kill myself in a few years instead of now, what's the difference?
>>6028059
Cause that's what it is
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0SWt6OQ4Nl4
>those delusional proto-hons ITT relying on their wishful thinking rather than objective science
LOL
>>6028049
are you a FFS surgeon?
>it's the anons defending eternal hons /mtfg/ episode
>>6028064
Oh. I just didn't recognize that shot
>>6028069
TOM HANKS IS TRANS??!
>>6028071
>its the hons taking their trips off to defend themselves
February was best when there werent this many hons around.
>Tfw I actully Truly believe escape from /mtfg/ is soon at hand
THESE ARE THE DAYS
Sweet fucking endorphins
>>6028071
defend me as well
>it's the maddie acts like an insufferable prima donna episode
>>6028078
ok, Phienchen your a qt girl who should be bukkake by a large amount of men.
>>6028078
>tfw ywn defend phienchen from hordes of mudslimes
>>6028076
2 years ago there were no hons or transbians posting here
now everyone here both defends and ERPs with transbian hons
God
Some of you are just so mean :/
I wish people wouldn't so bitter all the time
>>6028078
you're an autistic german man with an underbite and ugly glasses
>>6028047
I don't know who you are but yeah you're right, even my pre HRT is super manly. I should just end it
>>6028087
tom don't listen to these bullies, you will always be a beautiful little anime girl to me
hannah looks like that white boy from the poor little white boy series
>>6028087
you'll be fine once you get on T
>>6028089
you don't want someone to shag you before bed, you want someone handsome, rich and career driven to shag you every night and put a ring on your finger please like every other girl, ever, period,
lets be real.
you could get a guy to shag you before bed easily.
need gf
The thread started off so well, too.
Alright, have a good one mtfg (by which I mean get off mtfg). I'll be back to watch people getting shit on this evening, I suppose.
Tranny pizza party when?
>>6028097
same desu
Phienchen really overstayed his welcome tbqh
Every successful trans stops posting on 4chan by 2 years max and anyone who still posts here after is probably a miserable hon
>>6028100
want to be gfs
>>6028094
Bist du wirklich Deutsch? Wo wohnst du? Ich komme aus den Niederlanden
>>6028096
...he could be family or art driven instead. The rest is essentially true, though.
>>6028102
ok
>>6028085
I know, right.
>>6027775
Surprisingly same, idk if I feel good or hyper, but it's a rare good morning.
>>6028106
: )
>>6028109
I suspect pony too, he had a bitter desperate aura about him
Dysphoria?
I AM SPARTAN
why does this high have to fade away though? This shit us the PERFECT cure
>tfw 2 years HRT
>tfw still the same big masculine alpha male I have always been
fuck yeah
feels good to outman any man even with my zero levels of T
which one of you pussies want to fight me?
>>6028104
Schön, ich bin mit Schüle nach Dortmund gegangen, es war Schön. Wie siehst du aus
>>6028112
But it's not : (
I just wanted some attention/wanted to share pics but didn't want to ask for it. Don't be mean.
>>6028049
Gave her a profile like Richard Nixon.
i want to raise a child with Kayla well be the best mommies ever :)
>>6028117
Ich hasse die Stadt, ich wohne nur in der Nähe, nicht in Dortmund selbst.
https://unsee.
cc/risogadu/
install 4chan X and enable the 'anonymize' setting
>>6028118
>isn't attractive or cute
>still entitled for attention
shit nigga what are you doin
>>6028133
You can want something and not be entitled to it.
For example, happiness.
>>6028124
Ach so. Du bist ganz schön, hast du Kik oder so?
>>6028137
nein, nur skype discord und steam
>>6028139
Okay kein problem, du kannst mir auf Steam adden, mein account Name ist "gladenl"
fuuuuck
Workout High fading...
>>6028142
oh, I thought you were a tranny as well
I have a bf and am not looking for chasers.
>>6028146
me on the right
13 months on estrogen
>>6028107
I just want to hug the bitterness out of them
>>6028116
I will :3c
>>6028146
Neither of those men look happy
>>6028147
Es Leben ist nicht fair
>>6028147
kek
>>6028156
So ist das Leben
>>6028146
>mfw when I am low T, high E yet have "Strong erections & high sex drive", "decreased body fat", "confidence", "Mental focus" and "elevated mood"
Take that high test man
I would bend a high test man and fuck him like a little bitch he is tbqh
>>6028156
you could always cut your balls off
>>6028146
the left picture turns me on
>>6027775
I hope youre still having good feels
>>6028155
false. the guy on the right is like a lean mean killing machine
this is how all men should look like
>>6028155
men are not supposed to be happy
>>6028183
men aren't even human
>>6028186
Humans were not human before man
sometimes I feel totally insane for wanting all this
then I remember how great it feels to be gendered correctly and smile
Do I pass?;-;
>>6028199
cant really tell desu
id bang you though
>>6028199
boy/5
>>6028199
you have gorgeous skin and i'm jealous
>>6028199
i fixed ur face mate
that will be $8000
>>6028209
im afraid ffs cant make face shorter
;__;
>tfw you get out of the shower and see a man in the mirror
>tfw you need ffs, but your docs hesitant to write you a letter to say how manly you are
>tfw they want to work on your self-image first
>>6028214
You need a letter for ffs?
>>6028220
I think you look pretty darn androgynous desu, you could probably pass depending on how you carry yourself/your voice/clothes
>>6028217
To get insurance to cover it. You have to like appeal it, but it'll be easy af for me lol.
>>6028220
it's not that your features are bad but your face shape and length screams dude or as others pointed out "androgynous"
>>6028214
I tried to get a letter but was denied
>>6028236
I'm aware that I'm androgynous but IRL I get called out as a female more often than male. So I figured I passed as a girl.
>>6028250
>So I figured I passed as a girl.
Yeah that's how it works
>>6028236
her upper lip:nose ratio is in the male range tho
>>6028253
How do you figure that out?
Heya, how's everybody doing today? Has the sadposting died down for the morning?
>>6028253
I'm sure you can provide sources that aren't FFS peddlers, yes?
Because I've seen this ratio on a lot of cis women.
>>6028256
Ill sadpost you right up bby
any beautiful people on here?
not in a "we're all beautiful" kind of way but actually.
I want someone to look up to
my niece and I were talking about makeup and she offered to teach me to contour and do my makeup in the morning, and I was talking to her in my girlvoice
and then my brother scott told me "if you're going to talk like that fuck off inside"
then muttered "fucking helium shit" as I left
then I went for a drive for an hour, drove the max speed I could in my little festiva and considered driving it into the river as well as driving it into the garage and leaving it running
why is it that everyone is an asshole to me, I am trying my hardest and its not good enough and never will be because I'm just a fat balding man
I'm not going to accept my nieces offer of makeup
its just a waste
she and her fiancee are fucking right now, and I'm just a man who will never even lose his virginity
>>6028146
>man with high testosterone
>healthy heart
On what planet?
>>6028259
everyone is equally miserable here, doesnt matter what anyone looks like
>>6028259
Yes but im not naming them because i dont want others to feel bad desu
>>6028259
robin aka noella
>>6028264
On Planet Vegeta you faggot
