Chinese supreme court strikes down gay marriage
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-court-rules-against-same-sex-couples-marriage-application/ar-BBrHz6x?ocid=ansmsnnews11
>says gay marriage is against the law
>so that makes it illegal
>case closed
Chinese justice.
>>6021064
>expecting commies to do the right thing
>>6021083
What year will liberty prime be built?
?
Commies...
Christians, Republicans, Nazis, oh my.
Some Democrats aren't true allies.
(Obama and Hillary flip-flopped on gay marriage issue).
Pic related: Obama black, Hillary female, both never really cared for LGBT people.
>>6021064
>expecting the Chinese to care about basic human rights
>>6021064
>China
Not even once. When will that awful country collapse already?
>>6021064
china has alot more problems then gay marriage, just flying into Guangzhou I could visibly see the air pollution
>>6021083
>right thing
Lol, yea right. This is actually one of the few things they got right. Gay marriage is fucking retarded.
>>6022100
30 million more young men than women
if you don't force the men to marry each other there's going to be mass Elliot roger chimpouts
commies in western nations are always left wing idiots.
actual communist countries have been right wing in practice.
>>6022197
>trying to explain the whole world with left/right
you are brave
>>6022168
This. So many more men than women. Not giving them a means for release is just asking for trouble. Especially with all their government's other hang-ups with sex toys and porn.
>>6022742
All you need is the transgender population to rise
Are there actual Chinese trannies? Or is being a tranny a bullshit western thing? (Excluding Thailand and Japan)
>>6022750
Yes, there are transgender people in China
>>6022838
Where's the porn
>>6022841
>tfw didn't keep that big book of China which has a few pictures of trans performers in it
shame. nice book too
>>6021836
>Some Democrats aren't true allies.
>some
>>6021064
NC law
>Corporations boycott North Carolina
China ruling
>Where are the boycotts?
No really; where are they?
At least, this one will hurt China
>Businesses leave China
>China is forced to change the law
>Businesses go back
Don't companies have a large say in China?
>>6023167
>implying businesses will boycott one of the largest markets in existence over a few fags
>>6023238
>implying businesses will boycott one of the largest markets in existence over a few fags
In North Carolina, they did it
>Gays a small minority
>Significant North Carolina consumers
>Boycott by corporations, Springsteen, Michael Moore
If it can be done in NC, it could be done in China.
>>6023312
China is a thousand times more relevant than NC and, moreover, most businesses really don't give a shit
>>6023319
One alternative would be
>Boycott Chinese goods
>Gays & lgbt promote Chinese boycott
>Corporations profits get hurt
>Corporations boycott China
Another way would be for LGBT activists to appeal to corporations to boycott China
A lot of Hollywood types could be convinced of some boycott for China
>Implying other markets do not exist outside of China
>Implying Europe is not a thing
>Implying Brazil or South America does not have a significant market share
>Implying Africa as a continent hates Western goods that they will say NO when corporations move to the different African countries (after boycotting China)
>>6023238
>>implying businesses will boycott one of the largest markets in existence over a few fags
Literally the Revolutionary War
>Be the 13 colonies
>Larget market is the UK
>Parliament treats colonials like dirt
>Colonials boycott tea
>Cut off from British market
>Fight the British knowing that 1/3 of your contrymen are loyal while another 1/3 are apathetic
>Beat the British Empire with 1/3 of the population
>End up being the better in the long run
It worked before, it might work again.
>>6021064
well given they banned tv shows having gay people on them, that's not exactly surprising
>>6023341
>well given they banned tv shows having gay people on them
This could be used by actors to call for a mass boycott of China
>>6023167
>>6021064
>>6023337
>lgb-etc
>"revolting" any more then crying being their keyboards.
Kek
>>6023345
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-bans-depictions-of-gay-people-on-tv-a6913946.html
it already happened. given a lot of hollywood movies are now specifically made with marketability to china in mind (pic related, transformers featured chinese brand product placement like using the chinese version of redbull), i wouldn't be surprised if big hollywood productions started deliberately shying away from gay stuff in movies
also good luck trying to boycott china. they make basically everything.
>>6023364
>Hollywood
>shying away from shoehorning gay characters
BAHAHAHA
>>6023362
anon brings up a valid point as well here. gay people can't mass organise a boycott of china because the state of lgbt politics at the moment means they'll just get called racist
>>6023167
"Progressives" only boycott products made by white people who are bigots. Because China and every country in the Middle East, except Israel and Iran, are not white they can do whatever they want without fear of Westerners calling them out and not buying their stuff.
>>6023367
>Hollywood
>Caring about appearing socially progressive if they're no longer fiscally rewarded for it because the domestic market is smaller than the Chinese one
Wow, it almost seems like these backwards 3rd world shitholes don't have the same progressive values as the west.
Tell me again why we want them here. We fought hard for LGBT rights, now we have them don't let them slip away because we're scared of being called racists.
>>6023420
Outside the west people hate homos for different reasons then the west.
Probably a lot more prejudice coming from anecdotal sources then the bible
>>6023331
Getting the companies to boycott China would hurt their revenue and strengthen China's hand given that their criticism is that lgbt is too bourgeois
>>6023517
>lgbt is too bourgeois
Is there really such a difference between the types of lgbt?
>tfw corporate gay is different from salon owner gay
>>6023607
That's the typical communist criticism of homosexuality
>>6023453
>>6023464
I think the reasons for fag hate are irrelevant, they manifest the same way regardless.
While the west isn't perfect, we've rolled the boulder half way up the hill, we can't let it fall back down because we won't stand up for our rights like we used to.
While I understand that the right wing's sudden newfound love of queers is opportunistic racism, to add a string to their bow so to speak, I fully support it. Hell maybe if we stick with the knuckledraggers we can advance LGBT even further in years to come.
I fully appreciate that my stance is morally unjustifiable and outright disgusting, but I don't care. I'd give a favourable reference to the devil rather than go back to secret underground meetups and legal discrimination rather than protection.
Social attitudes will change in time, but right now the law is on our side more than ever before, I won't give that up to say nice things about shitskins who want to behead me.
>>6023925
The moment they think the immigrant threat is perceived as gone they'll dump you
>>6024060
Maybe we'll have a type of frenemy relationship in the future.
>>6021064
As someone that has read/watched a lot of chinese media, I somehow can't really see them capable of true love or human connection, so it's probably not that big a deal.
>>6023925
>I won't give that up to say nice things about shitskins who want to behead me.
>>6024060
>immigrant threat
From an intellectual level, that might seem to undermine what the lgbt has fought for
LGBT
>Considered a minority by the majority culture
>Considered as a foreign in terms of practices
>Initially considered as "the other" in terms of how they look
>Subject to unkind behavior by the dominant culture
>Told to "integrate" to the culture of the majority
>Has been misunderstood or parodied by the majority as alien
Middle Easterns, Arabians
>Considered a minority by the majority culture
>Considered as a foreign in terms of practices
>Initially considered as "the other" in terms of how they look
>Subject to unkind behavior by the dominant culture
>Told to "integrate" to the culture of the majority
>Has been misunderstood or parodied by the majority as alien
Asians
>Considered a minority by the majority culture
>Considered as a foreign in terms of practices
>Initially considered as "the other" in terms of how they look
>Subject to unkind behavior by the dominant culture
>Told to "integrate" to the culture of the majority
>Has been misunderstood or parodied by the majority as alien
It might even help the lgbt to widen the tent and let other oppressed persons in; their practices might seem "strange, weird, and different," but that was how lgbt persons were initially taught.
Now, a lot of Western cultures promote (at least tolerate) lgbt practices.
It will not be long for Islam, Middle Eastern, Asian culture to be promoted as well.
China hasnt really been a communist country since the 70's.
Nixon went to china and changed them into capitalists.
They are communists in name only.
Do you think they would be as rich as they are now with communism?
I dont get the logic china would have for hating gay people, maybe something with bringing shame to the family or some shit, the excuse in the west or middle east is that god said gay people go to hell.
>>6027576
>the logic china would have for hating gay people
See >>6023517
They basically think lgbt is part of the bourgeois
>The worker is supposed to benefit the collective, not the self
>LGBT could be seen to go against this since being lgbt puts the self above the collective
>Putting the self above the collective is how monarchies, capitalists historically saw themselves
Thus, for collective advancement, the self must serve the collective
>From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs
so the saying goes
>>6027576
Lolwat do you realize the massive economic collapse of oil is entirely due to communism. Their government had zero transparency and their corruption is off the charts. They inadvertently ruined their best friend canada who they send boat loads of Chinese to Vancouver to the point where western canada is basically an annexed province at this point. Most metro areas of Canada are predominantly Chinese.
They faked their books and quite frankly the US is fucking lucky they had a diversified economy or they would be in an utter shithole like canada is right now for relying on China too much. Europe and the US dodged a major fucking bullet but China took down quite a few countries with them
>>6022856
what if I have a foot fetish and collect shoe catalogs?
>>6027589
The current oil collapse is because of Saudi Arabia. The instability last summer was because of China's slowing commodity consumption
>>6027559
>It might even help the lgbt to widen the tent and let other oppressed persons in
I agree right up until the point where they ant to kill me.
>gays are so mad about this that they want a country of 1 billion people to die
this is why homosexuals aren't allowed to do anything in real life, you always jump to the *most insane* reaction as soon as you don't get your way about literally the most trivial things.
>boo hoo I can't force the state to recognize my marriage, NOW EVERYONE MUST DIE
Lol, not even actual communists put up with gay demands
>>6028237
Intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance.
>>6028382
>Intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance.
Intolerance is toward all: whether tolerant or intolerant.
The principle of toleration means to exclude no one from the tent.
>>6023312
>If it can be done in NC, it could be done in China.
Boycotting China would probably cause a global recession.
>>6028294
>China
>actual communists
>>6023331
>>Implying Europe is not a thing
European labour, material and resources are expensive. Europe is more similar to America than China and wouldn't be able to fill China's role
>>Implying Brazil or South America does not have a significant market share
Brazil is a shitshow at the moment and South America doesn't have nearly the manufacturing or labour capabilities to pick up the slack/
>>Implying Africa as a continent hates Western goods that they will say NO when corporations move to the different African countries (after boycotting China)
Africa has fuck all infrastructure, fuck all means of production, fuck all educated citizens and is obscenely corrupt.
The only alternative to China is India and India won't be able to take China's place for years.
There's also the fact that most of these places are much, much worse than China for LGBT rights, bar Brazil.
>>6023337
/his/ here. the two situations are not even remotely comparable.
>>6028382
If you think inverse totalitarianism isn't intolerant you are one of the Nazis who will end up making faggots hated on a global scale... Again..
>>6021064
To put this in perspective,
didn't the original lgbt activists shun marriage in general?
Why is it a big thing now?
Even hetero hippie couple just make a pact in the forest and forego legal recognition.
>We don't belong to the system, nor do we wish to be in it.
>We will do our own thing, whether recognized by the government or not.
>>6023331
Hollywood has been making movies for china for over a decade, they don't want to hurt profits, that's why no multi-million dollar action flick has gay people that can't easily be editied out for chinese release.
>>6023385
No the chinese market is bigger. They get less movies, so they all go see tranformers because they can't do anything else with their one day off per month.
>>6028237
I want china to die for thousands of reason.
The destruction of all old culture, the fact that religious leaders are elected by THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF, isn't a big enough reason to tell that they're evil? Air quality WORLDWIDE is worse because of china, Food quality is worse because of china, antibiotic resistance is skyrocketing because of china, I can't eat tuna anymore because China poisoned the ocean.
I hate china because they force people to legit live their lives in Cages. I hate china because they priced all the local people of my nation out of buisiness. I hate china because of their aluminum mines, and the effects of aluminum are greatly correlated to alzheimers disease.
I hate china because I know china.
I hate china because the chinese aren't allowed to hate china, they are just doing their jobs, scraping by, or getting super rich by being the anti-thesis of collective people.
I hate china because they banned the Guzheng, the instrument of the wise people. I hate china because classical music isn't classical, but nowadays it's the only music respected enough for musical curriculums.
I hate china because of their 14 hour written test called the Gao-Kao, which is full of propoganda, and serves to force every citizen into a narrow way of thought. I hate china because I know china, because all my clothes are from there, all my food is from there, all my historical philosophy is from there, and the contemporary china is communist and asian in name only.
Make profit or die, nothing else matters except building new apartment complexes and breeding.
>>6028382
>Intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance.
Yes it is. You don't "tolerate" things you have no problem with.
>>6028436
>>6028473
>>6028504
I'm not going to waste my time by trying to convince you guys that saying "HEY YOU WANT TO KILL ME BECAUSE I LIKE PUTTING COCK IN MY ASS BUT I ACCEPT YOUR BELIEFS WITH NO RESERVATION" is fucking retarded.
Here's the first link from google I found by googling what I said.
http://www.debate.org/opinions/should-tolerant-people-tolerate-intolerance
>>6028532
By NOT accepting their beliefs, one closes the door to actual dialogue, which lgbt used to convince the culture
Dialogue with those who have different opinions leads to exchange of ideas
and in the market place of ideas, the what is true, good, and beautiful mostly wins out
>When truth and error are allowed to express themselves, society is bettered as a whole.
>>6028532
>I'm not going to waste my time by trying to convince you guys that saying "HEY YOU WANT TO KILL ME BECAUSE I LIKE PUTTING COCK IN MY ASS BUT I ACCEPT YOUR BELIEFS WITH NO RESERVATION" is fucking retarded.
You don't have to accept their beliefs, just tolerate them. Freedom works both ways. Free speech means people are going to say shit you don't like.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/
>>6021064
Ah fuck.
This means more shitty Chinese "asylum" seekers fleeing because of "persecution" to the West.
Fuck.
>>6028586
Not him but free speech isn't philosophically consistent with other freedoms
>>6028565
LGBT forced a narrative against an oppressive culture that refused to listen. We used solidarity and bravery to stand up for what we believed in.
The first pride parades were so egregious because suddenly everyone knew that their uncle Kevin was actually a woofter who liked to be called Beryl and slapped about a bit.
Eventually people realised that queers weren't some insidious them, they were just your barber, your dentist, your brother. Suddenly it wasn't something to keep secret, it was something to be celebrated because our families accepted us and then society accepted us.
Dialogue had failed for decades before the pride movement. It's not something you can negotiate, it's not something to be bargained for. The right to be a hair raisingly flamboyant faggot isn't something I'm going to be told when and where I can do it to protect the sensitivities of some undeveloped shithole where they have nothing to do all day but persecute faggots and rape goats.
The more shitskins in our society, the more people actively despise gays, the easier it is for them to vote for fag hating politicians.
We'll lose everything we've gained because we wanted a dialogue. I refuse. If that makes me a Nazi then slap my ass and call me Hitler.
Oh and when the shitskins do take over, good luck having a dialogue when they'll put you to death for admitting to being a faggot.
Oh and no the pride parades won't work again, because we're not their brothers and sisters, aunties and uncles, they'll just fucking mow us down and torch the bodies.
We're here, we're queer, we don't like people who want to kill us for having said sexual preference, get used to it.
>>6028586
>defend free speech for shitskins to call for us to be put to death
>people listen
>shitskins vote in democratically elected leaders who also espouse their views because free speech
>shitskins ban free speech and kill you for being a homo
I said earlier in the thread my position is morally unjustifiable, we may have used free speech in the early days (but we were still arrested and beaten, so it wasn't really free speech) to advocate for a sound and sensible right, the right to stick an 8 inch dildo up our asses in the privacy of our bedrooms and to not be fired for it.
We didn't use it to advocate for the murder of a certain group of people. Don't let people use free speech to advocate genocide.
>>6028602
This. There were people pushing the "dialogue not conforntation" route in the 50s and 60s. They were called the Mattachine Society and achieved very little. They also opposed the Stonewall Riots, because they were all well off and could afford to pay off the police if they got caught in raids. Screw poor gay guys, right? And they didn't want the boat being rocked.
Likewise in the 80s you had plenty of people suggesting a slow and steady approach to the AIDS epidemic, but it was ACT UP with their confrontational approaches and no holds barred attack on enemies (e.g. the Archbishop of New York opposed condoms and HIV education? Let's go to a big mass and then stage a die in and block the aisles so people CAN'T ignore us).
N.B. this is an American narrative. Some countries (e.g. the UK, that decriminalised homosexuality before the Stonewall Riots) had a different approach (The Wolfenden Report was basically straight people getting together to go "this shouldn't be illegal). But as a general rule, rights weren't given freely and had to be fought for; a "dialogue" is the preserve of people who are already in the mainstream and have little to lose.
>>6028613
I would counter point this that many countries differentiate between free speech and hate speech, and calling for genocide is illegal under such laws.
>>6028596
>Not him but free speech isn't philosophically consistent with other freedoms
Sure but it is the most relevant one when it comes to tolerating opinions.
>>6028613
that's fine, I disagree with you but I don't really have an issue with what you're saying. The issue is that you said it wasn't intolerant. It is intolerant. Tolerance isn't always good and intolerance isn't always bad.
>>6028647
Ah I see the confusion. My statement about intolerance is a clever word play, literally it makes no sense, but if you contextualise each instance of the word intolerance you see the bigger picture.
It's something that gets you thinking, if a school has a zero tolerance policy on bullying, that literally makes them intolerant by definition of the word, but you'd never use it to describe the school.
It's a bit of a cluster fuck and I'm not great at explaining things, but if you have a think about it I hope you'll catch my meaning.
As for this jew blog, it's pretty engaging, but I honestly don't see anything about it being wrong to dislike an out group when that out group wants to kill you.
>>6028602
>The more shitskins in our society, the more people actively despise gays, the easier it is for them to vote for fag hating politicians.
Middle Eastern peoples have been minorities in a lot of countries for years: they did not cause a lot of ruckus then
We'll lose everything we've gained because we wanted a dialogue.
>This was basically the reasoning of people in the past.
>If we talk to gay people, we might become tolerant.
If we listen to people with different ideas, then they will listen to us.
People generally respond when there is respect for the other.
>we're not their brothers and sisters
This might counter the original lgbt message of "We are just like you."
>Those from Arabia, Asia need to know that we are just like them and they are just like us.
Also, these people are fleeing persecution from their own countries.
>be a refugee
>arrive at an asylum
>get told that you have to leave your culture behind
because your culture is somehow magically related to what happened to your country and your culture might affect the asylum
That's just like what happened in the past
>be gay
>want to work in a company
>get told that you have to leave your gay behaviors at the door because it will somehow magically affect the company
The LGBT have breached the fortress, it may be ironic to rebuild it again.
>>6028639
While confrontation and riots where used before, in these more modern times, diplomacy actually works.
>Obama literally dialogued with Iran on the nuclear deal
>No violence necessary
The key is de-escalation and not isolating peoples and cultures since isolation leads to more difficult situations.
>>6028803
"you can't work here because you putting cock in your ass" is not comparable "you can't work here because you want to murder me"
Also "not all muslims" lol
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/more-50-british-muslims-back-criminalising-homosexuality-icm-poll-reveals-1554126
Of course their culture is magically related to their country. Maybe if they didn't stone queers they wouldn't so sexually frustrated and rioting all the time.
The long and short of it is this, the LGBT community wants to stick things in their own bodies, the mulsim community wants to stick things in the LGBT comunity's bodies. Our plights are not similar just because we're both minorities.
Also you misunderstand the brothers and sisters thing, they have homos, they must do, but if a white guy goes on a march why would a muslim care. It would have to be that muslim's brother on the march for him to realise how insane his bigotry is. But the brother won't do that because islam.
>>6021064
Lmao gay faggots btfo
>>6028822
If you say so. I just hope that I'm dead before I live to see you and your ilk just hand back the rights we've fought, clawed and died for.
Don't forget to give your new overlords a quick handy before they chop off your head.
>>6028875
>I just hope that I'm dead before I live to see you and your ilk just hand back the rights we've fought, clawed and died for.
That will never happen.
If it comes to a choice between Muslims' rights and gay rights, western society will choose gays 100 times out of 100
>>6028981
Unless muslims become a large and influential voting bloc. There are still huge swatches of western society that hates us, give them an outlet, like a few million muslims funding and voting for an openly anti-gay politician and we'll see them spring back to life.
Inviting people in to our country who hate us is just silly. Especially in a democracy.
>>6029002
But that's unlikely given that in Europe there appears to be a big rightward shift around the corner and america doesn't have a substantial muslim population. Learn dialectics yo
>>6029167
If the far right are our only hope of not getting beheaded for poking things up our bottoms why would we oppose them by comparing the plight of immigrants to the plight of LGBT.
>>6028853
¿Qué?
>>6029167
Because a European right leaning citizen will just disagree with your lifestyle while a muslim will give you the death penalty. It really isn't even comparable
>>6021064
Good, one thing China has does well.
Faggots BTFO. : ^ )
>>6029550
You don't seem to understand what I was trying to say
>>6029652
Hahaha you're so funny and original
>>6029652
Nobody is saying vote right wing. Vote in the interests of LGBT.
Just don't actively try to help the cause of immigrants who want to kill us.
>they're just like us, break down the walls, oppression must be fought at every turn
>ugh fine fucking fags getting their own way again
>thanks for paving the way for us you degenerate homo, now die
>post is about LGBT rights in China
>Trumplrinas turn it into a thread about muslims
>>6029690
Buttmad libcuck detected.
>>>/tumblr/
>>6029690
It's about all shitskin immigrants of all classes, colours and creed if they hate LGBT.
We're using the term muslim because I linked an article about >50% of muslims in the UK supporting the criminalisation of homophobia, but the general sentiment is about anyone from any shithole who wants to waltz in the door and take the rights from us that some of us died to get.
>>6021064
Judges don't make laws
They just say whether something is against the law or not.
If the Chinese want laws to change, they should contact their Chinese congressmen and ask for a change in the law.
>>6029695
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>>6029684
>>6029707
This is a common misunderstanding.
Immigrants coming to a country don't want to change the countries laws. They simply want to escape their own.
When the first immigrants from Italy, Ireland, etc went to the US, they didn't force their host countries to adopt their culture.
They simply wanted to leave their country and start a new life, adding their culture to the melting pot of America.
In the end, that's why they go to America: they don't hate America because it's free, they go to America because they know that they will protect anyone regardless of race or religion.
>As if the US asked the Irish or Italians to abandon their Irish-ness or Italian-ness.
>>6029761
When your culture involves killing me, yes, I am going to ask you to leave it in your country and refuse to stand up for your rights in my country.
What cultures and customs did the Irish and Italians have that were so antithetical to the principles of their host countries as we see from other immigrants today? Maybe the Irish wanted to paint everything green and sing shanties in the street. Maybe the Italians wanted to talk with their hands a lot.
None of them wanted to change the laws of their new country to involve the murder of people for their sexual identity. I linked an article further up, ctrl f 50%.
>>6029807
They were catholic which was a pretty big thing in the day
>>6029824
Please explain your point in a different way as I'm not understanding it.
My argument isn't that immigrants are bad, just that shitskins from the 3rd world who want to kill us are bad. My language is extremely confrontational yes, but it's an extremely emotive issue.
How did catholics present a threat against what we now call modern values, like not killing fags?
>>6029850
Do you have any evidence that muslims in America want to kill all gays?
>>6029850
First off im not >>6029761
As to my main point, Catholicism was fairly hot-button topic at that time given the first settlers in America were puritans trying to escape papal influence. Most of the anti-immigrant groups at the time (notably the american party and the kkk) were also staunchly anti-catholic because they felt the catholics would try to turn the country into a servant state of the pope. That was the modern value of the day
>>6029861
http://www.queerty.com/muslim-calls-into-progressive-radio-program-says-gay-people-should-be-killed-20151022
http://politibrew.com/religion/332-moderate-muslims-wouldn-t-want-to-kill-gays-right-wrong
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/12/muslims_kill_gays_liberals_blame_christians.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/260560/muslim-refugees-terrorize-gays-germany-daniel-greenfield
http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/muslim-extremist-arrested-murder-gays-seattle
http://barbwire.com/2015/03/14/gays-and-the-muslims-who-kill-them/
It's not just an American problem, it's a world problem. It's not necessarily "muslims" - again we seem to be using that word because one article I linked earlier was specifically about muslims. It's everyone from a 3rd world shithole who has never experienced the LGBT community and grew up thinking it was normal to kill us.
>>6029907
If the catholics had been large enough in number to influence the political sphere then yes, there would be more papal influence in America right now. Maybe it would have only been a passive influence, but it would have happened.
Right now it's not about voting, there are protests and preachers calling for the death of homosexuals. Over 50% of British muslims agree that homosexuality should be criminalised. I linked articles above where people have been physically injured for being part of the LGBT community. That is not okay.
Tell me one more time why we should advocate for the rights of these people. A lot of people so far have said that we should take up their cause because they're an oppressed minority, like we were and to some extent still are. But I just can't comprehend why we would want to help people who want to kill us and sometimes do.
>>6029974
I just proved my point that earlier migrant groups were feared for similar reasons
>>6029993
But how does that influence the discussion?
>>6030007
Because someone brought it up an I have a pendatic need make sure people are accurate about history
>>6030037
Marry me.
>>6021064
>Maoism considers Homosexuality as a bourgious amusement
>China shoots down gay marriage
Who would have guessed
>>6023312
Did you really just compare China to North Carolina? Holy fucking shit.
>>6029974
>But I just can't comprehend why we would want to help people who want to kill us and sometimes do.
Because hatred breeds more hatred.
>tfw your country is morally superior to all of Asia
>>6022063
When god decrees another humanitarian catastatrophe. Fuck Xinping
>>6022841
g.e-hentai.org
Its still not blocked in the south for some reason.
>>6023312
>Micheal Moore
>important
>Implying
Also Springsteen ended up doing the concert
