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▶Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶Beginner makeup resources: http://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
▶Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge (embed)
▶HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat #mtfg
▶Zeemaps: https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968
▶FROG
reminder that u'll never be trutrans unless u get a heart transplant
>>5983167
Post butt kiwi
>>5983162
hey thats cool! i do a bunch of stuff but right now im a fullstack developer at a small startup. normally i do systems programming or security stuff but this job is really flexible and nice for my current situation.
>>5983170
already did like 2 days ago
shit was so cash
>>5983167
But my heart is a woman's heart, it's kind and nurturing... and I steal women's hearts all the time....
>>5983187
sure, here's my noodles
https://unsee.
cc/dizebuna/
>tfw not andreja
whyyyyyyyyyy
>>5983167
reminder that you'll never be trutrans unless you get the full organ set
(transbian thread btw)
>>5983192
Shitty british genes are shit
>>5983167
I have my mothers heart and strength... and my dads body and mind ._.
daektfw pupper?
>>5983199
true that ;-;
>me on the left
not even
>>5983155
aspergers just makes it hard to sound not monotone though, and it makes you feel really shitty about your voice no matter how hard you try, that's horrible advice
>>5983181
School was actually pretty good, got a lot of work done, and heard crazy stories of what actually happened to an annoying kid that I wanted to dropkick. He hasn't been in class for about a month and a bit, and I guess it was because he got arrested for assaulting an instructor and a student. I gotta drive home with my sub but stories to follow.
>>5983205
sure but guyvoice is kinda montone anyway
so I take comfort in the fact my voice would have been guyish and monotonous even if I was born a cis girl
>>5983203
CUTE PUPPER
yume can u tell me
why I shouldn't vote for Sanders
: ))))
>>5983204
>tfw scat fetishist rapist chasers post in mtfg
: (
>>5983208
>I gotta drive home with my sub but stories to follow.
But I thought you were the sub.
>>5983211
>shit trannies says
>>5983203
why pupper
you arent responsible enough to own a dog
It's kinda ironic how most of us spend our youth wanting to die, then work our asses off to transition and finally have a life you want to live only to be older and closer to death
the universe sucks
>>5983212
I don't really care u have free will go look up the stuff urself, I'll tell you if you really care in real life or when I'm not feeling so exhausted
>>5983198
Good girl
>>5983205
I have a monotone voice, did I seem aspi?
>>5983212
>>5983203
Pic related
>>5983222
I can take care of gem pretty well, I'm pretty responsible desu. It's my roomies tho so I don't have to take care of it, just give it pupper pets
>>5983223
>tfw dark 3am thoughts
I need to stop staying up so late
>>5983231
more roommates??????
>>5983232
Hahaha nazi computer games
I always end up laughing in mtfg at 3am
My starvation diet and sudden mauve is making me loopy
>>5983238
Sudden muscle lose*^
>>5983239
I really love pups, but I don't know if my hear could handle another one x.x
I want to empty my nutsack with a pair of scissors
>>5983220
Sub x sub is my otp
>>5983239
how do i get a mommy
>>5983244
Distinct lack of puppies here
>>5983253
>tfw kayla will never empty her nutsack all over your face
why even live
>>5983239
:( it really isn't
eat ur fav food or smthing that cheers me up sometimes
>>5983244
show pup !!
I'm told I have a very monotone voice.
>>5983229
nah it's not the same senpai
this is more what I sound like when I'm not explicitly concentrating on my speech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMsGMOXM3AQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om_7MdqOf98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlBRph2iQTs
>>5983263
I don't make cum, unless you wanted blood and balls all over your face
>>5983267
Das deep puppers
> my puppers
>>5983256
How does that even work?
>>5983276
pupper deep in thought
>>5983267
>doggo is gondola
>tfw ur gonna live with a pupper soon
>>5983277
I'm a sub eating a long, juicy sub with white sauce
>>5983268
>the cis females in that first video
Wow I'm moving to england, it looks easy as hell to pass there
>>5983282
The pupper does not bark or lick just silently observes, he is good pupper?
>>5983287
Literally the best kind of pupper
How common is it for people to just get voice surgery? I feel like a lot of the passing people I've asked had surgery
I hate gaming communities.
They always make games unfun
>>5983286
even the men were actually women
>>5983281
Pupper sees you, no homo tho
>dog talk
well this is too much for me, I still miss mine, she died last week
>>5983303
sleep tight, pupper
>>5983303
sleep tight, pupper
>>5983303
sleep tight, pupper
>come back to mtfg
>kayla animes posts now
what the fuck did you crazy trannies do to Elliot
>>5983310
Would you prefer she go back to posting lewds?
>>5983303
Kayla will you make me spagetti
>>5983317
catsup spaghett
>>5983291
There's a voice surgery?
Where has that been all of my life...
>>5983322
You need to do research
>>5983318
I guess you could make it the same way you make ketchup-fried rice, it might not be bad that way.
I am going to a place called the Abby. Will it suck? I think I am as cute As I can get so yay that. People will be nice people will be nice.
I miss my puppy
Where do I find gf, is there a gf store I'm supposed to go to?
>>5983330
Ketchup fried rice
Hmm that sounds like it fails into my classification of "food you eat when you hate yourself"
>>5983318
I didn't use any ketchup
>>5983333
Y3333ah its called the bar.
>>5983333
welcome to the watering hole, you come here to wet your whistle?
>>5983338
I remember one time I ate spaghetti that was old and in the pan for a day.
And I put ketchup on it and I was sick
>>5983336
The Japanese seem to like it, so maybe you're right.
>>5983344
that's a REALLY cool story actually
>>5983338
Kayla wanna go out for coffee in July, I'll be around ur area.
>tfw ugly
;-;
>>5983344
>eating perishable food that's been at room temperature for more than a few hours
>>5983359
iktf
>>5983359
stupid stupid iphoneposter
>>5983341
>yume wants dick now
What universe am i living in?
>>5983341
i came here to wet something else, motherfucker.
my life is a joke and i fucking love it
>>5983340
Sounds scary
>>5983341
None of these girls live near me, I'm too scared too met any and to proud of myself to ERP like a steaming degenerate
should i buy this shirt
y/n
tfw 31 year old wants to be ur mommy
B)
>>5983350
coffee in july huh? maybe
>>5983368
Wrong.
Peter Parker wants to be Spiderwomen
>>5983364
I'm not that young D;
>>5983378
no i don't
>tfw can finally read the graffiti in the intro of Rome
lmao they are actually quite funny
>>5983333
>is there a gf store I'm supposed to go to?
it's called lesbian meetup
or just a bar
>>5983370
What universe do you come from where she didn't?
>>5983365
How does it feel to have a microwave that's been used for SCIENCE!?
How do trans people find other trans people IRL. I've never even seen another teams person in my life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Oe_qPcTnz0
I think the next edition I make is gonna be dyspraxia awareness edition because more people need to know about it, it's fucking ridiculous how little awareness there is when it's literally one of the most prevalent neurological disabilities there is
>>5983331
Jesus christ, that's like the myth of Orpheus and Euridyce
>>5983353
>fucking christ buy some Tupperware
NOT EVERYONE CAN BE AS PRIVILEGED AS YOU, YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT
>>5983357
she who controls the formula controls mtfg
>>5983365
dude... U high?
>>5983370
I've always been a switch lad, but you don't even get what I'm referencing unlike
>>5983371
I want you to go to this website. It's called www dot n f l dot com take a click
>>5983373
fucking pussy
>>5983379
cool dawg, it's anime expo around then
>>5983359
it's ok hrt will turn you the right way up
>yume doms gem
>gem doms me
>I dom yume
how2hwat
>>5983370
she just got dick senpai
>>5983393
>going to cons for degenerate tranny fests
oh boy what a great time
>>5983391
Facebook? Support group or lgbt center
>>5983385
I'm not that young
Now I'm sad
>>5983391
I try not to.
>>5983378
How did the two of you meet, did you proposition her or did she proposition you? (Is 'proposition' the right verb to use here?)
>>5983393
football, did you say football? #italiano
>>5983404
young is good tho wtf
>>5983409
omegle mommy tag
>>5983393
HAHAHAHAAHAH
>>5983415
maybe youll see me there who knows :^)
>>5983391
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=1843968
Otherwise I guess at university LGBT things maybe.
>>5983415
the first few times I went to cons I wasn't really feeling it but after sakuracon I want to go to every con physically possible
>>5983411
pleb is a! woman
>>5983421
hey hey who is the one from Temecula??? thats like a 30 min drive for me
>>5983414
Not too young tho
>>5983422
Make me spaghetti and lace it with estrogen
>>5983418
Wat
>>5983396
Did you also dom gem?
>>5983432
>reading comprehension
i just realized that i'm gonna look like kayla once i go back to being a redhead
it's an abstract kind of feel
>>5983391
>never try to seek out or befriend trans people irl
>tfw like half my friends are trans anyway
Why does my city have so many trannies?
>>5983428
same desu
>>5983443
M-maybe trans people have a tendency to congregate
>>5983441
If you can't make good spaghetti you will never be kayla
>>5983443
Whut city familia?
Gold coast a shit
>>5983417
Oh, I guess that makes sense. Do the two of you live close by, or is this an internet-relationship type thing? I don't really get how these things are supposed to work, haha.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj7qPDYc01Y
I want kayla to forcefeed me hormones via spaghetti
>>5983443
>Austin tx
>under the impression this would be some sort of tranny capital of the south
>very few trans all in deep stealth
hi girls, I've been feeling hot and bothered and lately thinking about needing someone to be with, will I ever find love again?
>>5983470
just fap to doujins man
>>5983441
lmao
Hoe don't do it
>>5983459
Sydney
>>5983468
>tfw literally see people walking around in dresses with beards
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>5983470
What sort of person are you wanting to find?
>>5983484
how is one supposed to answer that question? right now my answer is my ex but that must be wrong
Don't fall for the ex trap. Exes are bitches and they're out of your life because they are garbage.
>cries alone about his ex every day
>>5983487
Maybe? I guess that would depend on how the two of you broke up and whether both of you would be willing to try a relationship again, but if that can't work you may want to note what things you liked about your ex that you would want in someone you might be interested, and what things you'd want different, as a start?
>>5983484
S-someone who will be my sheath...
>>5983494
did it work
that weirdly arousing feel of when you put so much maple syrup on food, your girl juices and general wetness smell and taste of maple syrup
>>5983502
the fuck is this
>>5983502
wat
>>5983500
he was marriage material, i wouldn't change anything except the part where he broke up with me because he didn't want to fuck a transgirl when he could pull cis
>tfw see girl on tumblr who started HRT same age as me, same amount of time on mones too
>she's at least 2 cup sizes bigger
reeeeeeeee
I need big boobs to balance out my HUGE ribcage for fuck's sake
>>5983510
WOW
>tfw looking for bras on amazon 'cause walking down stairs and stuff is starting to hurt
>tfw there's like 3 bras for 40A and they're all shit
fuck's sake, what now?
any of y'all goin to A-kon in June?
>>5983506
Well, if "someone that will let me put my willie in them" is your only criterion then that should be pretty easy? What has been your trouble so far, just that you haven't been looking?
Well that was a long day. Lasers were a success yet again, and now comes the wait to have my face get puffy, swollen, and infected with dead burnt hair.
C# looks easy. Even helpful. Why didn't I start doing this years ago?
>>5983510
Google that if you smell like maple serup Otis bad http://www.healthline.com/health/maple-syrup-urine-disease#Overview1
>>5983531
C# is tha best :D
>>5983211
i dont take comfort in that at all because Im actually trans
>>5983229
not really, lots of non aspie people have monotone voices
non meme aspergers is really hard to diagnose too so idk
>>5983524
go to an actual store
>>5983470
not on purpose
the right person is something that happens out of the blue, on accident
>>5983480
kill them
do it for all of us
>tfw it's going to be 3-4 years til I get a HRT prescription unless I conjure up the money to go private
>tfw probablly going to find out the Indian self-med pills haven't been working properly and I'm then past the window for getting proper development by fixing it with legit pills
the UK system is shit for trans healthcare
>>5983531
Oh hey, I had laser done today too; glad to hear that it's working out well for you. Are you going into C# from Java or just as a completely new language?
>have embedded systems exam
>friend talks about how he's pretty sure he got like a 30
>tfw pretty sure I got at least a 90
I didn't say anything else about it bc I didn't want to make him feel shittier
>>5983531
I need to brush up on C# and C++ tbdesu. My main programming experiences have been C, Java, and VB.NET
>>5983544
Can you not get a doctor there to give you a prescription on the basis that you're self-medding already any it's more ethical to just give you a prescription than have you keep taking that risk? I don't know if that works in the UK...
>>5983524
http://www.barenecessities.com/40A-Plus-Size-Bras_catalog_nxs,47,size,9674.htm
One of these, maybe?
>my repression just woke up
Shit shit shit. Should I take the hormones. Should I back out now before it's too late
Help me girls
>>5983529
>"someone that will let me put my willie in them"
that's not what I mean, I have no sexual desires.
>>5983559
Take them, don't back out now
>>5983549
There are different types of lasers, and also different skin tones and hair colors will affect that. I haven't gotten puffy or swollen after my sessions. (800nm diode laser with a cooling tip, in case it's relevant.)
>>5983559
do it now before you repress for years and regret it
>>5983548
Unless you go to work at come pretentious place you won't need c++
>>5983563
Oh, hehe; sorry, my mistake. (Although in my defense the word 'vagina' literally means 'sheath' in Latin, so you can understand why I assumed that was innuendo.) What do you want out of a partner? If you're asexual, I'd assume it's about romance or something?
>>5983559
Fucking do it, girl. Tits don't grow themselves.
Why are so many trans girls coders?
>>5983360
depends on the food desu
anything with enough salt or sugar will make things hard for microbes to rot it and make it go bad
>>5983454
i-i'm an ok cook
>>5983479
I MISS RED HAIR I MUST DO IT
>>5983470
yes
>>5983496
>tfw friends with my ex
altho he keeps calling me baby and babe and lowkey hitting on me. and he thinks the idea of me and faye together are hot, so... idk
we're clearly not bffs but he's chill
>>5983565
Oh fuck. It's like not until like August at least till I get them
But I do have therapy and stuff booked
Shit. Wish I could just be hormoned right this second so I can stop trying to fight it
>>5983582
asks the trans girl coder
>>5983569
That's not really a fair statement. I mean, there are absolutely plenty of great jobs where Java or Python or plain old C or whatever is what used, but there's definitely also a market for C++ coders, and I wouldn't say that most of the places that would hire C++ coders are particularly pretentious.
>you still never lovingly cuck yumes sweet, otherworldly boipuss while gem screams fearfully from the other room, not at the cuckening in progress, but at the gnawing meaninglessness of life and the inevitability of death
>>5983585
buy some spiro and estrogen from alldaychemist
>>5983585
Not that I'm saying that it's necessarily what you should or shouldn't do, but it's not uncommon for people to self-med until they get a prescription.
>>5983595
don't let ur memes be dreams
>>5983548
>VB.NET
>>5983582
Because we're all introverted losers and introverted losers are more likely to be into computers and coding.
At least according to my old therapist
>>5983582
I thought it was a requirement to be trans. I'm a recluse and hate social interaction so programming alone in my room made the most sense
>>5983569
I'm still not sure exactly what I want to do with my degree and I graduate next year. I'll just blindly apply to a bunch of tech companies and hope I land one
>tfw friend got an internship at IBM over the summer
a-at least I'll make more money for my co-op at my shitty company
>>5983597
>tfw Estrogen takes her sweet hold on my body and mind.
>>5983595
That's fucking cruel, why would you wish that on anyone even as a joke? I spent most of my childhood going through an existential crisis after my granddad shot himself and my parents just ignored it 'cause they had no answers, I wouldn't wish it on anybody.
>>5983596
>>5983598
Thank god for my savings.
Gonna buy some now. Thanks. I should have thought of that.
Tfw some people are really better off not transitioning. You might be living as a guy and happier as a girl, but will you be happier as tranny freak than as a guy? Never really being a girl.
>>5983603
Oh wow I thought this was a joke, I didn't expect this to be an actual book:
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/29437996-copying-and-pasting-from-stack-overflow
I need to get a copy of this.
>>5983582
Programming makes you trans.
>>5983582
How many languages do you have to know to be considered a true coder? I just know Java, Ruby and SQL and I'm learning C variants atm
>>5983601
rip
>>5983621
pic
>>5983595
>but at the gnawing meaninglessness of life and the inevitability of death
im an absurdist tho
also i wouldnt scream Id probably just curl into the fetal position and cry and mutter to myself
just cuck my shit up senpai
>>5983619
>Never really being a girl
please just kill me now
>>5983619
But Pan your stealth and going to be reakly stealth after supron, if anything nonpassing trans make you hide better.
>>5983621
Other things that correlate well with being trans:
Homelessness
Unemployment
Higher education
Suicide
It's a funny old life.
>>5983619
>will you be happier as tranny freak than as a guy? Never really being a girl
yes
>>5983588
I know ;~;
I mean, I know why I like to program but I it was curious why it was such a pattern. Being trans and in IT is a stereotype that's consistently shown to be sorta accurate.
>>5983603
Me too ;_;
I wanted to make vidya when I was a repressed teen
>>5983601
But why is it such a thing? Surely there's more things an introverted loser could gravitate towards? Why is it always coding?
>>5983623t
Technically you need only know one language inside and out.
>>5983621
I would find it funny if the correlation was actually causation.
>tfw you missed out on a thread of edie and faye being generally horrible people
damn.
>>5983619
Considering how depressed I was as an alpha male.
Yes
>>5983638
why last thread specifically
>>5983601
>VB.NET
yeah that's how I feel. The program I have to work on is the most rickety piece of shit I've ever seen. The last intern really fucked this thing up but it was clear the original program was hobbled together with example code that isn't meant to scale to what the program has become, so I guess I could really blame my boss. This thing has to interact with a spreadsheet underneath that does everything, and let me tell you the Excel interop is the most goddamned annoying thing I've ever interacted with, at least the way that I have to do everything. And the requirements that I have to meet for this thing are ridiculous and sometimes downright impossible. I'm the only one that does coding and error-checking, and anything and everything will break the minute I add a new feature, and the errors will randomly happen or not happen.
I can't talk much more about what the program is or specifically does because of my nda
but goddamn the second my co-op is over I will never use VB.NET ever again in my life. Please jesus just let it be July already
>>5983620
oh fug I didn't think it was real I just saved the image off /g/. I need that
>>5983636
>tfw never have the motivation to make vidya and I have the art skills of a 3 year old
the dream is dead
>>5983619
i was pro transition until this year
for the first time in years my only problems are trans problems
>hanging out with best friend as usual
>we're sitting on his bed with his laptop between us, watching political commentary and WWE clips
>rest my head on his shoulder, he gives me headpats
>watch Escape from New York in his TV room in separate chairs
>go back to his bed and queue up some social commentary
>lean against his chest
>he puts his arm around me and uses his other hand to administer more headpats
Th-this is advanced snuggling, I'm sure of it
>>5983645
Turns out it wasn't real afterall. ;_;
>>5983628
LMFAO
>>5983595
ROFL
>>5983613
exisential crisis aint no thang i gotta outta that shit in like 2 months
>>5983649
Do what cornflakes did and pretend to fall asleep in the guy's bed so either of you can start cuddling and start kissing.
Wheres your game mtfg?
>>5983623
If you don't know assembly you're just a scriptkiddie desu
>>5983636
Sit inside all day > play vidya games > decide you want to make vidya games > learn to code?
>>5983645
Ugh everything at my old job was broken like that. Even the PC that I had to use was a broken piece of shit, you'd get zapped when you pressed the power button
>>5983649
Dammit. This post reminds me of how much I like guys
>>5983659
From 15 minutes ago regarding the increased snuggling
"I told you I didn't mind more skinship, as long as that was all it was" - him
>>5983645
"Its okay Gem! I explain as my 7 foot megacock detaches from Yume. "Nooooooo!" she cries as the cuck soon becomes the cucked
"Gem! Don't worry! I'm sure there's must be done reason for our living! The very fact we are even here is a magnificence our simple human brains coulds never understand," I continue on as Gem gazes up at me from my sick, totally /ripped/ arms, "we must create our own meanings."
That's the story of how I steal Gem from Yume WATCH OUT YUME
>>5983595
>>5983628
6.5 months HRT. Kind of curious how far my face is from passing.
is it possible for a guy to be a chaser if you've been talking and flirting with him before you ever decided to transition and still wants you after transition?
>>5983649
i think ur friend is a gay boy lmao
>>5983654
hi yume
whats up
>>5983664
CUTEE OMG
>>5983669
can u steal me some candy lol
>>5983638
fill me in
>>5983584
W I g
Potatohead is totally right you know
>>5983659
other people do this?
>>5983669
dude thats not even gem
>>5983677
just made
dinner
and ated it
amazing
>>5983672
>another person named robin
>and they all look alike
>>5983672
pass just not attractive
>>5983664
a-are those evil mushrooms?
>>5983671
cattes
>>5983645
Use opengameart or something, I'm no artist but I've been able to cobble together some at least OK looking stuff this term using public domain stuff ^^
Also, why won't VB just die already? ;~;
>>5983664
Which came first though, the coding or the trans feels, and which caused which? Also, is that your game? Looks cool
>>5983664
>>5983636
>tfw scriptkiddie
>>5983693
>tfw coding feels predated trans feels
>tfw programming made me trans
>>5983692
>tfw you had to kill your own cat in your closet because she wouldn't eat her food, drink, or use her litter box, and we couldn't afford to put her down
>tfw still have a scar from it almost 8 months later
>>5983665
I just like this one
>>5983677
I have no proof otherwise...
>>5983669
please write more shitty fanfiction about me this is the greatest thing Ive heard all day
>>5983703
f-fuck
I'm sorry
>>5983683
As I typed my frantic, steamy reply, just as I was about to hit send, the fierce velocity of my jizzle jostling smacked my table and threw my mouse across the room, selecting the wrong post to quote and preventing me from correcting this grievous mistake! I had no way to fix it! What? Get up and go get it? How am I to do that when these tastey McDonald greasewiches are right here at my desk! ? I can't leave my babies!
Pix me cukin u :)
>>5983664
>If you don't know assembly you're just a scriptkiddie desu
Assembly is boring but it does have a lot to do with computer theory and stuff
>tfw i accidently doubled up on estro/spiro tonight
>>5983712
*whips out willy and starts waggling*
jokes on u i am LITERALLY a cuck
>>5983714
ur gonna die
>>5983715
cuck and cucker and cuckee
>>5983636
My friend is a programmer, should I encourage him to dress like a grill?
why am i literally always hungry
>>5983715
You're the cuck and IM THE KEKER! The KEKADOODKEDOO
You better keep your Gem on a leash because *whisper whisper* [im cumin]
>>5983714
The extra spiro is a big deal. Don't let your heart stop. The extra estrogen is probably fine, if sad to waste.
>>5983693
I'll try to put something together as soon as I take my astronomy exam on friday since I'll finally have a couple weeks of free time. Don't know if I should try doing it with SDL or use something like SFML instead since that's way easier to work with
>tfw have a C in the class that was supposed to be an easy A so now I have to put in more effort in that class than any of my senior-level ECE classes combined
Also yeah VB should just die tbqh, C# is okay so I wouldn't mind that
>>5983725
>Mfw I eat less than 500 cals a day and never feel hungry
What's going on with all this fanfictioning between trips?
>>5983726
>im cumin
me 3
>>5983724
>my friend is a programmer
>should I encourage him to dress like a grill?
>should I encourage him
>him
>>5983725
hungry for fayes gt
>>5983724
>not encouraging all your cute friends to dress like girls
>>5983732
me 4 dude
>>5983725
because food is gr8
>>5983726
>you better keep your gem on a leash
