/ts/ should be an exclusive board for discussions relating to transsexuality, transitioning, trans related relationships
/lgbt/ should become /lgb/ the general gay board that does not permit /ts/ related posts
please make it so, gods of 4chan
>implying this board would generate enough traffic without the t
>>5978855
I had a dream in which both, the /lgb/ board don't share a bracket with /y/, /hm/ and /cm/, and /ts/ actually had their own board like if mods finally got tired of this shit.
Felt so good while it lasted...Even reddit got this right.
>>5978909
>unironically dreaming about minor details on an anonymous chinese discussion forum
JUST.
>>5978973
I've had really fucked up dreams since I had VFS. Each and every one of them was a nightmare in which I forgot to not speak and slipped and was sure I dun goofed and ripped the sutures.
Dreaming of browing the web is a welcome distraction, as I don't typically shout at my screen.
That's not to say I can't wait for this ride to end...
>>5978983
How was the surgery?
>>5979337
I don't know, my vocal chords look tiny now and the part he sewed together is covered by a big drop of glue, so there's not much to see yet but I mustn't speak for another few weeks so the result can be anything...
>>5978855
But then /lgbt/ would have no traffic.
>>5978855
But then where would the /lgb/ trannies post? /lgb/ or /ts/?
>>5979354
What's with the redness all around the cut?
That's the dumbest idea I've heard all day. /lgbt/ is already slow as hell. Some Generals last over a week and you want to half it? Seriously?
>>5979907
I assume it would be on /ts/ since they mentioned trans related relationships would be there. Of course, nothing would stop you from posting on /lgb/ and not saying you're a tranny.
>>5978863
That's a good thing.
If there is a lot of content being put out in a short amount of time but it's bad content you'd be glad to have a slower yet more relevant board.
>>5979933
He said my adams apple was very prominent, so he had to cut a lot of cartiladge, probably resulting in a lot of blood leaking towards just under my skin. I'm not sure if this is really it, but it could be. Considering he stretched my neck, it makes sense that the blood would run towards my chin aswell as shoulders.
I don't think it's related to the VFS, I just took a trachea shave along with it cause it was basically free of cost. Though admittedly it's not something he's specialized in, I think. Comparing my pic to some FFS trach shaves, there does seem to be unusually much redness. But hey I survived and saved like 2k.
>>5980228
Was this the surgeon with Yeson Voice Center? I remember his page saying a while ago he wouldn't operate on anyone who had had a tracheal shave, so I think it's kind of strange if he's started doing it himself.
>>5980385
No this was with Prof. Remacle in Luxembourg.
Now I'm curious though, why would he not operate after a trachea shave?
>>5980228
>resulting in a lot of blood leaking towards just under my skin
Well yeah, I assume some of that is visible as the yellow halo around the scar
The redness is odd though, just look at the extremely sharp lower border by the chest. Kinda reassuring of an external cause such as increased pressure from blood or w/e.
>>5980499
I asked why it was so red and probably accidentally pointed at that, it looked like two heavy tubes put pressure on that area and the nurse said that was probably the thing they used for intubation, cutting off the blood leaking below that point.
I was pretty scared cause it looked kinda cancery, but it's almost gone back to normal by now.
>>5978855
Problem is that most trannies (imo, ALL trannies by definition, save for the delusional ones who think that people who sleep with them are straight) already fall under another part of lgbt. So youd still have a shitload of trannies here.
>>5980560
>save for the delusional ones who think that people who sleep with them are straight
No less of a delusion to think all trannies are pre-OP.
>>5978855
>/lgb/
implying fags don't want it just /lg/
>>5980621
A post-op tranny was still born a man and any 100% straight man cannot knowingly get hard for anyone who was born a man. It's too much of a turn-off, even if they found you attractive before. You have to have at least minor homosexual tendencies to even consider sleeping with a tranny.
Anyone who fucks a tranny but still calls themselves straight is simply catering to the tranny's delusions, in addition to their own (not wanting to be seen as gay, etc.)
>>5980658
>and any 100% straight man cannot knowingly get hard for anyone who was born a man
Breaking news: You get hard because of looks, not because of some superficial status. I don't know how an autist's brain works on this, but pretty sure even as such you would.
>>5978863
I could handle the 5 posts per hour on 8chän /furry/ for 17 months now, it's not even that bad.
>>5980690
Breaking news: looks aren't everything in regards to attraction.
For example, a great looking guy looks good, but if he's mentally retarded or has a shit-tier personality, or is a huge pussy, or whatever, its a big turnoff. Same sort of shit applies with trannies. You could be attractive and somehow magically not have a fucked up looking frankenpussy, and you'd still not be able to get with any straight guys, because them knowing that you were born a man turns them off too much, because they want to fuck women, not men/former men.
This is why we can't just go and try to date straight guys without getting denied far more often than accepted. It's because even if they think you're hot, you being born a man is a huge fucking turnoff. Even from a biological viewpoint. You're completely unfit to mate with, because you are the same sex as them genetically, and on top of this you can't reproduce. The ones that do accept it have slight homosexual tendencies, enough to overcome the fact that you were born male.
If people really did get hard purely based off of looks, then passing trannies would have no issues dating straight guys. But go out there and try to get with some straight guys, and you'll see time and time again that I am right. It's about much more than just looks.
I really don't like trannies, especially the ones on 4chan. Attention whoring tripfags that shit up every thread/board they show themselves in.
>>5980737
Forgot my pic. This should illustrate how it works for you.
>>5980737
Who hurt you
>>5980770
Nobody. Only the unhurt can remain delusion-free and have true clarity of thought.
Who made you incapable of coming up with a counterargument? Was it just bad genes from your parents?
>>5980737
>But go out there and try to get with some straight guys
But I already am.
>>5980856
Then you know just as well as I do that some men are just too straight to sleep with a tranny.
>>5980622
>implying fags don't lust after straight men and bi is the only realistic chance they'll have of fucking Chad
>>5980874
Well idk, but my bf is pretty straight.
>>5980894
Lmfao by definition he cannot possibly be straight. He's dating someone else with XY chromosomes, who was born a man. He may say he's straight to both pander to your delusions and his own desire to not have homosexual tendencies, but nevertheless he is not straight. If he were actually straight, he wouldn't be able to be with you.
This whole time you've been doing nothing but basically go "na uh!" while I have been laying out reasoning and evidence to support my points. You simply naysay and do nothing to challenge my points, granted that's all you really can do when the person you're arguing with (me) is factually correct.
>>5980954
penises don't know chromosomal make-up, just sayin
>>5980697
>/furry/
>>5980954
Why the fuck would I seriously argue with """"""facts"""""" whatsoever if I realize more than you whether being gay or not is absolutely irrelevant and I don't use it as an identifier like most you homos with your identity issues. Point is, I'm a girl, my bf is not, he likes me for being me and he'd not hop in bed with actual dudes.
Keep clinging to chromosomal makeup like a complete autist, but if you actually get off the internet for once you'll probably realize chromosomes don't really factor into how you perceive people on the streets.
You're projecting so hard, so don't you ask for arguments when all you're saying yourself is your very own idea how relationships are supposed to work.
>>5980993
but your brain does
>>5981039
>surprised by a furry
>on a board for fags
>on 4chan
K.
>>5980993
Penises are attached to a body which has a brain, which -does- know chromosomal makeup and coincidentally also determines whether or not their own penis gets hard. Just saiyan.
>>5981040
>Why the fuck would I seriously argue with undeniable facts
Because you're buttblasted by the fact that you're not a real girl and not capable of getting actual straight guys. It sets off your dysphoria. Understandable, but you're not being honest with yourself.
>being gay or not is absolutely irrelevant and I don't use it as an identifier like most you homos with your identity issues
You should follow the things you're saying. Someones sexuality -is- irrelevant if you look at it the right way. You're the one who feels the need to label people as something other than what they are. People who date trannies are not straight, because straight guys only date cis girls. Yet you call your bf straight.
>Point is, I'm a girl, my bf is not
Correction. You are a tranny. You live as a girl, but you are not the same thing as a real girl. You should be treated like a girl, absolutely. However that doesn't make you a real girl.
>he likes me for being me and he'd not hop in bed with actual dudes.
He likes you for being you, absolutely - and what are you? You are a tranny. He likes you for being a tranny. Of course he wouldn't hop in bed with actual dudes, because he isn't full blown romantic for men. He only has slight homosexual tendencies. To call him straight would be the same as saying that there is no bi, only 100% straight or full blown gay, nothing inbetween. Basically what you're doing is saying that bi people do not exist, which is a ridiculous claim.
>if you actually get off the internet for once you'll probably realize chromosomes don't really factor into how you perceive people on the streets.
Of course not, but you're not fucking your bf on the streets now, are you? You can appear to be a girl, but if a guy knows you are a tranny, that -will- effect his attraction opinion
>>5981206
>a brain, which -does- know chromosomal makeup
it doesn't, it can only make guesses, and as medicine improves those guesses will be less and less correct.
>>5981206
>>5981040
>You're projecting
>projecting
Fallback non-argument
>so don't you ask for arguments when all you're saying yourself is your very own idea how relationships are supposed to work
Im not saying my opinion on the matter, I'm stating facts. There are more sexualities than just straight and gay. That is a fact, and I am arguing for the existence of that fact.
So far you have yet to successfully address my points. You've just gone on tangents. You're only arguing against me because you wish you were a real girl and anything that reminds you that you aren't a real girl makes you feel uncomfortable and #triggers you. To truly feel comfortable in your own skin you have to accept the fact that you're not a real girl. This allows you to live much more comfortable and not get #triggered all the time by facts of life.
>>5981220
Let me explain it to you with a dialogue.
>hey so i'm transgender
>oh okay (person now knows that that person was born with opposite sex chromosomes than their appearance, and their attraction opinion of that person adjusts accordingly.)
>>5981236
Another dialogue for funsies.
>straight guy browsing porn
>sees hot chick
>duuude sweet gonna fap now
>webm moves on, hot chick whips out her penis
>straight guy instantly loses boner or changes to some actual girl porn so they can actually get off
>>5981254
what if she has a vagina bruv
>>5981264
>oh god her vagina looks all fucked up and scarred
>turned off
if knowledgeable on trannies, then
>sees trannys pussy
>instantly recognizes it as a tranny pussy due to the unnatural appearance and scars and such
another option
>unethical tranny with 1/1000 actual good looking srs.
>goes and fucks straight guy
>he is fooled
some time later
>hey i'm actually transgender
>guy loses all attraction
As I have said from the very beginning of my posts, any male who -knowingly- fucks a tranny is not straight. Because of the deception, they had no idea you were a dude, and as a result, were able to fuck you. Once the truth is revealed, if they truly are straight, they will lose their attraction to you. This is the shit that gets trannies murdered, and for good reason.
>>5981280
>and for good reason
man i was just playing devil's advocate but you're kinda fucked up
>>5981300
I'm not fucked up, just realistic.
It's quite the shocker to find out the girl you were fucking and dating was born a guy. That is a huuuuuge deception, and when someone finds out the person they love and trust the most has been lying to them on a very, very big thing and important aspect of their life, they can get extremely upset. On top of this, because they're actually straight, there is additional strife because now they feel like they were raped. IMO they were raped, if they were duped into fucking a tranny. It's not pretty that trannies do this shit and get killed, but it is certainly understandable why some of these guys would get so distraught from the ordeal that they kill the tranny who duped them. The person they loved is a lie. People get killed over much smaller shit than that.
>>5981324
i'm not saying it isn't duplicitous as fuck, or even rape, you just seem really vindictive against trans people. like damn.
>>5978855
/lgb/ couldn't sustain enough traffic for their own board especially if they didn't have trannies to whine and shitpost about
>>5981351
Bullshit, it started out as mostly gay males before the rest poured in and now every other thread is muhtuhfug general do I pass senpai >conetits informed consent mutilators, and most of the highly entertaining original traffic has gone as a result. It's tumblr now, which probably means I'll be migrating elsewhere too.
>>5981351
That's stupid and you're stupid, that's like saying "4chan couldn't sustain enough traffic if MLP fans were given their own board, I mean 80% of all posts are pony posts".
One loud yappy annoying group running everybody else off (MLP, trannies) doesn't mean the rest of us disappear. We could have a lovely /lgb/ board if all the trannies went away.
>>5981366
Fags already have multiple boards.
>>5981386
>that's like saying "4chan couldn't sustain enough traffic if MLP fans were given their own board, I mean 80% of all posts are pony posts"
Are you stupid? It's not like that because the traffic would still count towards 4chan sustaining itself regardless of how it's grouped but boards have come and gone due to their ability to sustain traffic.
>>5981390
Porn boards, not discussion boards, and they're for anybody who's into that stuff. Not that it matters, enjoy the tumblr
>>5981666
Far as I'm aware Yeson offers the trach shave though, they just call it risky. Their page lists a 13hz lower average pitch raise, which is kinda shitty but can't be helped I guess.
Makes sense why these surgeons offer a combined procedure then, but I haven't heard of a trach shave "royally" fucking up anyone's voice, even with surgeons not otherwise specialized in neck surgeries.
I've been digging through Yeson's info a lot and I find they're particularly fearmongering about a lot of things and I get the impression Dr. Kim has a bit of an ego... He even scares you about coughing which you sometimes just cant help. Basically going by his advice you'd do best simply not living for a month.
From what I've seen in his youtube channel compared to what lasers can do, he could step it down a bit... maybe they were the first to employ that procedure but his twitchy microscalpels look far from being top of the notch these days.
>>5981343
> you just seem really vindictive against trans people
I'm not vindictive against trannies. I am a tranny. I'm just a realistic tranny. Most trannies are pretty delusional and like to hide from the uncomfortable truths of life, and so someone pointing out reality to them seems like an attack, when it isn't.
It makes sense though, most trannies here are also young, and young trannies just tend to act like that. I've been at this for 8 years and I was pretty fucking retarded at the start just like the majority of trannies on this board. Over the years we often normalize and become more realistic - or alternatively dive into the deep end of delusion.
I absoluely hate my penis. But I am NOT cutting off my dick. I'm scared enough of doctors and surgery as is, you think I'm gonna let them slice my dick off and reform the gorey hole to look slightly like a vagina?
Fucking no. They better invent some actually good neo-vaginas/neo-penises before I let them. My perfect SO is someone who's ok with me being a weird retard anyway so I might as well use it to ward off whatever the straight male equivelant of a basic bitch is. Not getting clocked in public is all I need to feel sufficiently comfortable with my body
>>5982184
Same boat here. Seen too many srs results to be anything but realistic about that freakshow-tier shit. Hopefully they'll come up with a way to implant lab-grown vaginas and such sometime in our lives, but before we get too old to use it.
>>5982184
Okay...?
Wrong thread?
>>5979940
Split the boards into /sexuality/ and /gender/
