Do you realise that muslims despise your way of life and would behead you at the first given opportunity if it weren't for "man-made law".
I'm talking about your average muslim living in a neighbourhood near you.
duh. islam is a cancerous religion.
>>5910299
I have muslim neighbours and they don't give a fuck about me.
ISIS =/= Islam
>>5910310
muh ISIS is not Islamic may may
Threadly reminder that a moderate muslim is someone who reloads the gun while the extremist muslim executes you.
>>5910351
Muh moderate muslims dont care maymay
See? I can do it too.
>>5910299
These people are suicidal and do not know it.
I don't know anything about the Muslim religion tbph, so I can't really comment on it.
However, I'm Christian as well as gay, so I know very well that people like to make up lies about homophobia in religion. I take those kind of claims with a grain of salt.
>>5910310
Read the Quran, ISIS are following this shit to the letter. Working on the Hadith right now, so far both books are a manual for empire and it is not a homoseks friendly empire.
I know this is hard for you to understand, but these people believe their religion. Not many of them are the secular christians that we are used to.
>You all hate the harmless, punching bag christianity that is a dying religion.
>lets support a militarized facist version of it
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_To-cV94Bo
>>5910299
i thought muslims were fine with trannies and even force homos to transition. so i have nothing to worry about keke.
>>5910351
If we are judging Islam with Isis, we should judge Catholicism by hardcore baptists then !
Don't tell me you're actually caring about gay people - you just want an excuse to be islamophobic
>>5910415
1. Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the [holy man] who represents God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged.
2. I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes.
3. I will fill your mountains with the dead. Your hills, your valleys, and your streams will be filled with people slaughtered by the sword. I will make you desolate forever. Your cities will never be rebuilt. Then you will know that I am God.
4. Fight them until there is no more [disbelief or worshipping of other gods] and worship is for God alone.
Quote 1 come from the Bible (Deuteronomy17:12)
Quote 2, from the Bukhari (a Shia theology book) 11:626;
Quote 3, from the Bible again (Ezekiel 35:7-9)
Quote 4, from the Quran (Quran 2:193)
>inb4 those are Jewish quotes
Christianity is founded on both the Old and New Testament - you don't get to be picky
It's about time some of you people wake up. I was a journalist in Syria around the time of ISIS gaining power. People assume all Muslims are against ISIS. The Muslims I saw over there, when asked about ISIS, agreed with them, saying that they were actually following the holy scriptures, unlike their current government. I was only told this because I was pretending to be Muslim. It is written in holy texts to hide the truth from non-muslims. That truth has been interpreted as being supporting ISIS etc.
Muslims would behead you given a sword and a chance.
>>5910668
May I ask you where do you get this from ? Because :
1) that doesn't apply to muslim stationed in western country
2) without proper evidence your anecdote doesn't really holds ground
3) data can be extrapolated and reinterpreted in twisted ways, such as this "pool" who said majority of french teens supported isis
(https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2014/08/27/do-1-in-6-french-citizens-really-support-islamic-state/)
4) Cultural relativism is a thing - to the muslims there, Isis is not terrorism but Americans are. Their opinion might change if they travel to other countries.
Nigga are you fucking retarded.
Did I say, but the bible isn't? Did I say I was a christian? FFS use your god damn brain. I even mentioned that most christians today are secularized and conform to a societal norm of separation of church and state. Islam is still practiced on the political level and where there are large numbers of muslims they push to enforce religious law. I don't know of very many, if any, christian nations like Iran or saudi Arabia. These people are what christians would be if there where a billion of them and they actually followed the religion.
>b-b-but christianity did it
I am not a christian and I wont defend it. Using christianity as an excuse for shitty religions and religious behavior is fucking childish.
>>5910760
I find it strangely unsurprising that you're hating Christianity, and not Christians, but Muslims and Islam alike.
>These people are what christians would be if there where a billion of them and they actually followed the religion.
There are 2.2 billions christians anon, who would have thought some of them turned out to be moderate !
>But they live in first-world countries
Russia, Romania, Poland, Moldova and South America are totally the same as Western Europe/North America, then.
My point is that's not about the religion, it's about level of inclusion in society and education. If you reject muslims there are going to hate you and turn terrorists - just like the IRA.
But I don't think we are going to advance. You decided you hate all muslims alike, that's fine. Enjoy your day.
>>5910809
The reason I don't talk shit about Christians as much or think that they are much of a problem is because they are not following their religion. Lets be honest, most christians barely make it in to church on the holidays.
Muslims by and large take there shit serious and in places where they are the majority in a localized population they subject themselves and the minorities to islamic law (sharia). Because Abdul in your mostly secular community is a cool dude does not mean that if they saturated the population he would not be trying to push sharia. Europe has proved this to happen. If you want to be blind to it, fine. But when you advocate the religion of peace meme and try to import these savages the blood of other people will be on your hands.
The western world exist on the axioms of liberty and just law. Your forefathers fought hard to tear themselves free from the christfags and save those values. I refuse to give it up to islam, and you should to.
I mostly see lesbians and other women embracing Islam. We seriously need to kick out women out of this movement.
>>5910871
>Import these savages
>Religion of peace me
>SUBJECT THEMSELVES TO SHAKIRA LAW
Wew, lad
You've build yourself a nice little world down here, I'd hate to touch it. Let's just say that probably unlike you, I live in glorious soon-to-be-invaded Europe, in a rural town not far from Paris (= many muslims and blacks, about 8% of the population, OMG) and I haven't had a single problem here since I moved on.
Muslims were the bulk of manifestations after Charlie Hebdo and the Bataclan.
Moderate Islamic preachers, formed to the values of the Republic, are replacing violent ones, who have been deported.
There are less than 10,000 refugees on French terriority, less than a tenth of a percent of department.
In total in Europe, there are 2 millions refuges (and I'm GENEROUSLY inflating numbers) for 500 millions natives, so that's 0.4% of the population. Many of them are women and children, stationed in Macedonia.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/14/one-thousand-people-camp-macedonia
All of these are facts. Islam is not a problem in Europe, terrorism is. And your attitude is far from helping.
I have known many personal friends of arabic origin. One of them was kissing his friends on the lip for "fun", the other one was straight but as campy as a femboy.
>>5910944
haha ok.
I reserve the right to say i told you so.
>>5910944
>10,000 refugees in france
>2 million in europe
>like 13 committed the paris massacre
W
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W
>>5910871
>The western world exist on the axioms of liberty and just law. Your forefathers fought hard to tear themselves free from the christfags and save those values.
I didn't read that, it keeps getting better.
The motto of the French Republic is Liberty, Equality, Solidarity. The Republic knows no race or special community, nor does it subsides any cult.
The French Republic is a secular, one in essence and undivided.
I almost had a (yuropean) freedom boner typing that.
Move to Australia or USA if you want to live. Gay men are already targeted by the rest of LGBT because of muh privilege and feminists do their best to spread Islam. Once Muslims get power they will start changing the society like what happened in Syria and Lebanon. You are first to be gassed in Europe, so find your Anzac spirit or American dream and start new life.
>>5910299
Hate is rooted in arabic culture, and therefore it disgusts me. But maybe i just dislike everyone cause im a Pole? Idk personally i think laws need to be more strict for a few years until we deal with this plague
>>5910969
All to myself, I mistyped our glorious moto : Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.
>>5910953
I'm fairly confident you won't get to use it. Call me a fool if that makes you feel any better.
>>5910966
The 13 who committed Paris massacre were all french-born, not 2nd-generation migrants. Almost of all of what they had in common was being radicalised due to poverty, lack of education, and bad relationship.
But I care too much about this.
>>5910929
>I mostly see lesbians and other women embracing Islam.
I don't know whether to laugh or be worried, isn't islam against all the feminist liberation bullshit they stand for wtf?
>>5910990
Feminists just hate white men. They don't use logic. They are women.
>>5910990
feminists don't use logic anon they just want to see their white husbands suffer
>>5910987
>The 13 who committed Paris massacre were all french-born
more proof they can't be integrated.
>>5910990
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_feminism
Read it, you might learn something.
>>5910994
Who gives a shit about marriage? Abbott was against it yet Sydney is the gayest city I've ever visited.
>>5910987
k...keep me posted.
I don't mean you ill will eurofriend, but you guys are a mostly unarmed populaces while radical jihadis are defying your guns laws. If you think Paris is the last shit show your are very wrong.
>>5910969
I am not sure what you are getting at here yes the motto of France is pretty rad but you niggas ain't free. No on is anymore we are letting freedom slip through our fingers.
>>5910999
They were not 2nd, or even 3rd gen-immigrants. There parents worked in French companies, they spoke French, they went to French schools.
What's to blame are bad choices, lack of opportunities for them, and lack of prevention.
I mean, for those 13 terrorists, and the perhaps 10 000 potentials terrorists identified by our governments, there are still about 2 or 3 millions of Muslims who go on with their daily lives.
>>5911024
>I mean, for those 13 terrorists, and the perhaps 10 000 potentials terrorists identified by our governments, there are still about 2 or 3 millions of Muslims who go on with their daily lives.
that's fucking massively disproportionate.
>What's to blame are bad choices, lack of opportunities for them, and lack of prevention.
you couldnt be more of a cuck if you tried.
>>5911002
One fringe politician against it don't worry me. In America, there are rallies when people refuses to serve gay people. That's something that worries me than some Muslims wanting to build a mosque in my town (they will probably never have the funds, anyway).
>>5911003
How can I reach you anon ?
I might start a shitty tumblr just for that. My life in the Islamic Socialist State of Western Eurabia. It will have glorious cuckold porn and cultural Marxism.
>>5911015
Freedom in the french/european sense is very different from the America notion. We think that being free means being free to live a normal life, free of prejudice, with hardships of life attenuated. Of course, it means more gov't, but that not necessarily a bad thing.
>>5911072
And that's a good thing, America is all about feedom. I can't wait to get out of this feminist SJW shithole called Sweden.
>>5911024
>there are still about 2 or 3 millions of Muslims waiting for France and Britain and Germany to become a Caliphate so they can behead you
FTFY
>>5911058
>cuck
I want to prevent terrorism in ways that may erase definitively and uphold the values of France. That definitively includes letting my (non-existant) bf enjoy that sweet arab dick.
Memes aside, why is it cuckoldry ? I'm trying to follow your point, but my conclusion is that all muslims need to die for you to feel safe. How would you do that ?
>>5911080
Come on over, friend! We've got some drugs, good times, and a gun waiting for you!
>>5910299
>I'm talking about your average muslim living in a neighbourhood near you.
Given Muslims make up less than 1% of the adult US population, no you aren't, because statistically almost none of us live anywhere near a Muslim family. Further, most Muslims in developed countries act just like Christians, they have their beliefs about whatever the fuck their book says but they don't really do anything about it most of the time
>>5910299
I live in the Muslim heart of Manhattan that also is the black American/Caribbean/African LGBT mecca of Manhattan and to be 100% honest the African and black American Muslims never fuck with us.
>>5911024
>only 10,000 muslims would kill as many christians as they possibly could!
how many beat up homos? how many beat up women? how many want sharia law? how many want to change the laws of the country they are in to suit their shitty pedo-worshipping religion.
goatfuckers. not even once.
>>5911086
2/3 millions, with actually a huge number of them in the military (no kidding), against 66 millions frenchmen.
Even if the muslims double each generation and the frenchmen only maintain population, we'll need 5 generations before they outnumber us.
>>5911095
>I'm trying to follow your point, but my conclusion is that all muslims need to die for you to feel safe. How would you do that ?
They don't need to die, but they need to return to their own countries because they will never assimilate, they form enclaves and breed uncontrollably until they gain a majority in an area until they will be able to enforce Shariah. Then you can kiss your gay rights goodbye. How many more innocent French people must die in order to boost your false sense of ego that you're providing shelter to "refugees"?
>>5911127
France is not housing refugees.
There are no shakira law zones in Europe, nor has it ever been.
Muslims are assimilating. Our ministry of education is an atheist from immigrants origins. Soldiers who are patrolling my town due to state of emergency (which is in the eyes of a majority of frenchmen, completely stupid) counts many blacks and arabs in their ranks.
France, Tunisia, Morocco and Algeria share very close ties due to history. Many Moroccans live in France during the year and return to North Africa for summer and feel both French and Arab when asked.
>>5911135
>Actually, only 10,000, and that's a very, very, very large estimation.
>I'M JUST PULLING NUMBERS OUT OF MY FUCKING ASSHOLE
>>5911173
>no shakira law zones
Sharia patrols, also referred to as Muslim patrols or modesty patrols, were groups of young Muslim men, members of an organisation that called itself the Shariah Project,[1] who patrolled streets in East London from 2013 to 2014. Early that year, videos of their activities, filmed by members of the patrol, were uploaded online:[2] these showed hooded members of the patrol confronting passers-by and demanding that they conform to Sharia law.[3] They targeted prostitutes, people drinking alcohol, couples who were holding hands, women whom they considered to be dressed immodestly, and harassed others whom they perceived as being gay.[4][5][6] Five men were arrested in January 2013 as part of an investigation into the gang,[7][8] and three were given jail sentences on 6 December 2013.[9]
Go and kiss your bum-chum in the middle of Tower Hamlets then. See if you don't get smacked down.
>>5911147
There is no muslim Party in France. Nazis had widespread popular support before WW2, unlike Isis right now in France.
Nazism is treated as something serious here in Europe, which is why it's less likely to happen again. With Golden Dawn tho, I might revise my judgement.
As for the schools, in the words of Victor Hugo : "He who open a school door, closes a prison". We certainly needs more schools in banlieues and less prisons.
>>5911000
>Read it, you might learn something.
>"I'm the educated one here not you!"
>that leftist moral highground
I'm aware of subjective liberation based on what white legbeards and islam feminists, as if we haven't been flooded by every disgusting kind of feminism imaginable.
The part that makes this ironic is that while american feminists are sexually liberated whores, islam feminists see them rightfully as sluts.
>>5911176
http://www.lepoint.fr/societe/plus-de-10-000-personnes-objets-de-fiches-s-de-renseignement-16-11-2015-1982062_23.php (link in frog language)
Actually I was wrong. 10 000 is still a fairly good estimation, tho.
>>5911205
But I AM in a rural town with muslims. I AM in occupied France. I GO to Barbès in Paris. You are probably in AMERICA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfLf6tO7vSA
>What is fact-checking, and critical spirit
>>5911216
>At its peak, Party membership reached 8 million out of 80 million Germans in 'Greater Germany' or about ten percent of the population.
pic related: every post you've made in this fucking thread.
>>5911227
I was just trying to answer your question.
>>5911246
>expecting honesty from a leftist cretin that defends the Islamic State and a barbaric religion that worships a paedo
>>5911246
Comparing Nazism to Muslims is stupid and shows your ignorance.
A one-party secular totalitarian state can't be compared to a religious driven movement in pluralist social democracy.
And they enjoyed widespread support, it's history. http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-fuehrer-myth-how-hitler-won-over-the-german-people-a-531909.html
>>5911240
nigger, you said that there were no sharia zones. when there fucking are. now go get lynched in one so i don't have to listen to anymore bs.
spoiler: i live in england.
fucking french kikes, man
>>5911260
>mfw when I defend the Islamic state somewhere in the thread
Nigger, I made many posts saying that I don't like Islam, I just don't hate Muslims
>>5911273
Actually you got me hooked. Where do you live in Britain ?
>>5911248
>innocently/manipulatively appealing to my emotions after i call out your backhanded answer.
>>5911283
>leddit! xD
no, fuck off. fuck this shit board. i'm joining islam so i can stone you niggers to death
>>5911286
I'll admit I was a bit rude, you seem nicer than the rest of this highly-informative (and original) thread.
Still, it's 4chan, people here are making me a support of Isis for simply saying that I live in France and what they say isn't happening. I've also counted about 3 cucks and 1 kike.
>>5911323
fair enough.
>>5910995
>>5910996
That seems to be true of anyone who gets too caught up in oppositional ideologies. Like I've seen people on the other side (i.e. anti-feminists/men's rights activists) who favor policies that actually hurt men as long as they also hurt women.
>>5911127
I think ultimately, talking really long-term here, they not only can and will immigrate, but will eventually have to. That's just a consequence of globalization, cultural barriers are gradually being eroded. True isolation isn't possible when cultures have to interact, even if geographically separate. That is not to say of course that introducing immigrants in large numbers is a good thing, doing it all at once like that tend to cause conflict and results in ghettos. Now, if Muslims were admitted into Europe at a lower rate, they wouldn't reach the critical mass needed to form ghettos and would have to learn to live alongside native Europeans. And then when more arrive later on, the dominant Muslim subculture in Europe will be one of integration, rater than isolation.
>>5911361
A shakira law zone ought to have a better law enforcement. The term would be thugs. And in the case of France (and probably the UK), it's wrong to say that the police do nothing. In fact, they are doing too much and end up increasing the tension.
We need to rethink our relations with disfranchised urban areas. The sooner the better. (inb4 gaz them)
You have a bowl of rice. 1000 grains are perfectly fine, 1 is not.
>Christianity - 1 grain tastes funky, you spit it out and eat the rest
>Islam - 1 grain is pure cyanide... Hmm, I think i'll skip the rice senpai
>>5911386
>A shakira law zone ought to have a better law enforcement.
>I won't be comepletly satisfied that an area is a sharia law zone until the streets are paved with telescreens.
>>5911372
"The feminists don't use logic" trope surprises me.
Aside from few Tumblrs, their discourse is as logical than any else. It simply believes that women are under-represented in some fields. It can be argued for and against.
Also, many of the things they touch are trivial issues, like representation in vidya, who became a big deal for some reason. End Father's day was a known false flag, same with the Femitheist divine and many others.
>>5910299
>Do you realise that muslims despise your way of life and would behead you at the first given opportunity if it weren't for "man-made law".
It doesn't matter. I don't approve of bigotry, no matter who the target is. Intolerance toward any demographic harms every demographic.
>>5911418
This is a dialogue of deaf. It's rather sad, because you might have something interesting to say.
>>5911402
Apply the same logic with gay and child molesters. Besides, Christianity still puts a heavy weight on gay people in Russia mainly and many others Slavic countries. A shame, I really like Russian history.
>>5911440
>because you might have something interesting to say.
Can't say the same about you, cuck.
>>5911436
>>5911449
Why is this word so popular, I'll never really understand
>>5910310
They do care, they just arent a majority in your area. When Islam becomes the majority better get ready to get hanged with fellow gays.
Also I will get extreme pleasure when Muslims take over Europe and start killing gay people. I will be safe in America telling you fags I told you so.
>>5910994
>America, where candidate gains vote from promising to abolish same-sex marriage
he said he would overturn the supreme court decision and let states decide to legalize gay marriage or not
I hope I live to see reconquista part 2: nuclear boogaloo
>>5910310
http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
>Import people from country where hanging Homosexuals from cranes for being homosexuals is the norm
>These people only fled when they got attacked for not hand tieing the nooses
Truly Islam is the most tolerant religion, just let people hang gays, be more tolerant, it's only a problem if they want you to do it too.
Also why is everyone's argument to the "But Christianity 200 years ago! So just be okay with them killing people until they assimilate!"
>>5911583
Marriage should be state issues. Supreme Court is tyrannical to force faggot marriage on every state even if they passed laws by popular vote to ban it.
>>5910299
christians are just as bad.
>religion is intolerable
>>5910299
Yes. The majority of us do know that, we are not stupid. I'm British and I know that British Muslims are universally homophobic and bigoted.
The majority of British people support gay rights, 76% of UK people in general who think that homosexuality should be accepted by society and 60% who think that gay people should be allowed to marry their partner.
When polled ZERO percent of British Muslims find homosexuality morally acceptable and 61% of British Muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal. Don't believe me? Here is some hard proof;
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/06/04/the-global-divide-on-homosexuality/
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality
The majority of British LGBT groups are actually Feminist/Progressive LGBT groups which care more about Feminist/Progressive ideology than they do about LGBT people. If they have to decide between supporting LGBT people or their ideology they will throw queers under the bus every time.
The British National Union of Students is currently trying to abolish representatives for gay men because gay men are part of the 'patriarchy' and an 'oppressive class'.
The London Gay Pride event banned UKIP's LGBT group from taking part because their disgust at right-wing ideology was greater than their support for right-wing LGBT people.
The support for Islam in LGBT activist groups has NOTHING to do with the views and support of LGBT people. It is entirely the fault of the progressives, feminists and sjw's who make up the regressive left, scum who find men opening their legs on the tube to be a form of aggression but are totally fine with gays being thrown off buildings as long as the killers are not white.
>>5911372
>I think ultimately, talking really long-term here, they not only can and will immigrate, but will eventually have to.
Immigrants don't fully. assimilate until the third generation and at the rate that they're breeding and they're being imported they don't NEED to assimilate because they are slowly becoming majority.
> And then when more arrive later on, the dominant Muslim subculture in Europe will be one of integration, rater than isolation.
I'm sure they will just see your peaceful tolerant European ideas and throw away their beheadings and pushing gays off of building tops. Because you have "enlightened" them with your secular European values. /sarcasm
>>5911266
>Comparing Nazism to Muslims is stupid and shows your ignorance.
Comparing Muslims to Germans is very sensible though.
No one doubts that the majority of Germans were peaceful non-violent moderates, but they didn't matter because the non-peaceful violent minority were still able to kill.
Before Hitler seized power (in 1933) only 850,000 out of 66 million Germans were card-carrying Nazis. After the Nazi seizure of power, there was a big surge in membership. At its peak, Party membership reached 8 million out of 80 million Germans in 'Greater Germany' or about 10% of the population.
There are currently 1.62 billion Muslims world wide. Of this number 1.1 billion Muslims support sharia law, I would consider these 'non-moderates' as sharia law considers homosexuality a crime and specifies stoning's and amputations as routine punishments for crimes.
So that means a majority of Muslims, 1.1 billion people, are non-moderate, which literally makes them worse than the fucking Nazi's.
>>5911691
>I'm sure they will just see your peaceful tolerant European ideas and throw away their beheadings and pushing gays off of building tops. Because you have "enlightened" them with your secular European values. /sarcasm
That's why I was talking about integration being gradual, rather than flooding Europe with Muslims all at once. It's not like they all have some brain defect that makes them have no compunctions about killing. If the ones living in Europe already are made to live alongside other Europeans, they will slowly adopt European norms. You seem to think they're somehow magically protected against being influenced by Europe's cultural values. The main reason they're resistant to such today is that they tend to congregate together and thus enforce their own traditional values rather than having any reason to adopt those of their native European neighbors.
>>5911825
That's islamophobic mate
You must accept their culture or else
>>5912897
Pretty much this,
>>5911825
Even if you slowed immigration their average birthrate in European countries is about 4 and their life revolves around mosques. Even if you let them in the country at a slow rate they still breed like crazy. The only way they will secularize if you bring them in Europe is if you demolish all the mosques where countless videos have shown Imams preaching about destroying the west and breeding out the natives of Europe.
I'm gay and my bf is a muslim (although he hasn't done any muslim stuff in years)
I-is he thinking about throwing me off a roof when he's riding my cock? ;-;
>>5910366
Keep deflecting, friendo. Statistics show that most muslims do not like gays.
>>5910575
That's just an Iranian thing.
>>5913053
Well you cant get everyone to like you i guess
>>5910809
>My point is that's not about the religion
It is, but it's about the culture too. Muslim culture is not compatible with Western values and if you say it is, you are delusional. An overwhelming amount of muslims hold radical views, to the point that it's not a minority anymore.
>If you reject muslims there are going to hate you and turn terrorists
Point proven. Be nice to da mooslims or dey gonna kill you! What a culture.
>>5910310
I'm not judging Islam by ISIS. I'm judging Islam by Islamic countries. The countries we're importing the people from. I'm judging the statistics of majority Islamic views. I'm judging based on their ideology. Just the same as I do with Christianity. Acting like the alternative to Islam is Christianity is absurd and a pretty fucking American thing to do when many of the countries they're being brought into don't have a faith.
Westernised Muslim =/= Islam by a long shot
It is important to dislike Islam and not the Muslim however. You never know, you could be talking to a neutered westernised Muslim who can actually be really great people.
>>5913265
>You never know, you could be talking to a neutered westernised Muslim who can actually be really great people.
They're just dormant. So long as they've pledged to cuck themselves to Allah and their dirtier, more guns-educated brethren, they're just waiting for some radical political movement or insurgency to come along with the key to their cock cage. Much like liberal Christians. The difference between liberal Christians born 20 years ago and conservative Christians born 200 years ago is about 180 years, that's all.
I'm not going to respect or trust people who've promised to be bad as soon as someone takes care of the scary scary police for them.
>>5910623
Except that Christ said that the old testament no longer applies
>Hebrews 8:13 By calling this covenant “new,”o he has made the first one obsolete;p and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
That literally means we should follow the new testament and NOT the old one, which was made specifically to jews so they could make earth a safe place.
>>5913071
Be nice to everyone or they gonna kill you. Case in point with the black panthers or communist militias, the IRA, Basque Terrorists, Corsican/Italian Mafia, and freeman on the land in America. Terrorism because of supposed or real oppression is hardly a "le sandnigger" thing.
It's simply common sense that we should prevent terrorism or radicalising instead of waiting for Muslims to turn into terrorists, waiting for people to die, repress the muslims in our countries (get out ! even thought you have no family in Syria and you're in Europe since 75 years !), which would transform anyone into a bitter and resented terrorist, then rinsing and repeating.
>Muslim culture
There is no such thing. There are Persian, Arabic, Albanian, Bosian... Muslims. Also, cultural hierarchy is a twisted worldview. You can't judge a "culture" without a clear understanding of it first.
By all accounts, your post seems paranoid at best. If all muslims were sleeper agents, why do many of them manifested against ISIS and why did a muslim protected people during Charlie Hebdo attacks ?
Why did Mohammed Merah killed other Muslims who fought for the French Army ?
>>5913313
There is little to nothing to support that theory, maybe a few terrorists who are actually doing this, and some verses of the Koran.
It would like believing all Americans are power-hungry bastards with a god complex because their gov't spied on our politicians.
>>5913446
You do realize that being a muslim is a choice don't you? Following any religion is a choice, and while I can understand why someone would be a christian being a muslim means being an overall horrible person.
>Muslims hate you, so vote for this other guy (Trump) who also hates you
Makes sense
>>5913455
Much like the Bible, the Koran can be interpreted in many ways, or your religion can stay a private affair. I don't see many Jews in France following the Leviticus to the letter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufism
>>5913446
>There is no such thing
You're dead wrong, Islam is a way of life that encompasses a plitical system, religion and customs, it includes from how one should dress to how to beat your wife.
It stands on a few principles such as
>Koran is the word of Allah
>Mohammed is the perfect muslim whom all others muslims should try to replicate
>The Sunna is the perfect example of Mohammed in every word and deed.
>The Sunna is found in the Sira (the biography
of Mohammed) and Hadith (his traditions)
>The three previosuly mentioned books are called the Trilogy which is said in itself to be perfect in every way (and as such can't be changed)
There's no interpretation of it, THAT is the problem, extremist groups are the ones actually following the Islamic culture to the letter, the "moderate" ones are actually considered Kafirs because they don't follow the law.
The bible doesn't work like that, the Torah doesn't work like that, you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
>>5910299
I am fully aware.
I'm voting for Trump or Cruz so Shillary doesn't pull a Merkel and flood the US with rapefugees. At worst, nothing will change for LGB rights (fuck Ts), because Republicans aren't stupid enough to do something to set rights back anymore.
this was especially eye opening
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3RtdDZgcBY
>Muslim "peace conference" in Norway
>Islamic scholar addressing a crowd
>"How many of you agree that men and woman sit at a different table?"
>whole crowd raises their hand
>"How many of you agree that the punishments laid out in the Quran are the best possible punishments for sin, whether it be beheading or stoning"
>whole crowd raises their hand
>"but how many of you consider yourselves extremists?"
>no one raises their hands
>"See, these are not extreme views but the general views of Islam! We aren't extremists for holding these (extreme) views, we're just being misrepresented by the evil media that slanders us!"
Its fucking awful that most the LGBT crowd is trying to buddy up with these people and defend them.
>>5913488
People also have to consider the absurd number of places that Islam has conquered.
>Iran
>Iraq
>Syria
>Lebanon
>North Africa
>Egypt
>Turkey
>Afghanistan
>Pakistan
>Bangladesh
All of those countries weren't Islamic, this has been happening even on the last 1400 years. Now they are trying to replicate this on Europe.
>>5913496
>Republicans aren't stupid enough to do something to set rights back anymore.
Oh anon...
>>5913511
LGBT - Lesbian/Gay/Bisexual/Terrorist
I love the quick "allahu ackbar"s he throws in between questions.
>>5913511
this is incredible you think hes about to start saying something progressive to change our ideas on islam but NOPE he just starts going batshit insane.
>>5913459
That's because Jews happen to have one thing called In Times of Peace, it basically says that you don't have to follow those laws unless Israel is Mighty, and of course it means it's always applied to places OUTSIDE of Israel. This ToP basically means that to keep the peace you don't have to follow certain laws.
>>5913520
They aren't. At best, all we're getting is "let the states decide" and non-addressing. There are bigger issues to worry about.
If they do decide to push the dying Christian viewpoints, they will lose control of what really matters: Congress. We've had a Republican congress that hasn't addressed any LGBT issues for the better part of two years now. Do you know why? They want to keep control of it, so they can actually pass shit like the Keystone XL pipeline and other economic measures once they have a president who won't veto everything.
The moment they try to pass anti-LGBT legislation is the moment they surrender control of the Congress. The momentum of the US has shifted in such a way that close to 50% of the Republican voterbase doesn't agree with abridging LGBT rights.
>>5913514
They already tried to conquer Europe before via the Turks muslim world conquest is nothing new. They are a bloodthirsty religion
>>5913550
>nothing new
Them using the Taqiyya to manipulate the west until they are in a position of power is new, the stupid suicidal mentality of the left is new, people not only not taking actions against but openly embracing them is new.
Face it, peace times and prosperity made people stupid and docile like sheep.
>>5913533
What are you talking about? Every jew is obligated to follow halakha daily. Every law of Leviticus. and for yom tov outside eretz yisrool one or two days more. I don't know what atheist secular Reform thing you are talking on. The only circumstance someone can be exempt from not observing laws of Leviticus or halakha is in pikuakh nefesh.
>>5913458
>Muslims will flood your country and kill you
>worst trump will do is hurt your feels. Also he doesn't even hate gays
>>5913535
Nationally
Only 32% of republicans support same sex marriage
http://www.pewforum.org/2015/07/29/graphics-slideshow-changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/
South Carolina republicans...
31% of Trump supporters want to ban homosexuals from entering the U.S.
32% think the Japanese intermint camps in WW2 were a good idea.
70% still want the confederate flag flown over the capital.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/02/trump-clinton-still-have-big-sc-leads.html
Trump literally went from "Gays should not get the same benefits as heterosexual couples" (2011), "I believe in marriage between a man and a woman" (2013), to finally "Once again, Justice John Roberts has let us down!" (2015 in regards to Obergefell v. Hodges).
Trump is as retarded as Cruz. And if you think "state's rights" mean anything other than "bring back evangelical values!" then you're either lying to yourself or ignorant as fuck. See abortion.
>Let's close down the EPA and Department of education even though they cost a measly 8 billion and 77 billion respectively, while boosting the 585 billion dollar DoD. Cause you know, a strong military stops terrorism like the TSA makes flying safer. Also let's build a 15 billion dollar wall even though mexican immigration is at an all time low, and more than half of all illegals come here with a valid work visa and simply stay, which a wall would do fuck all to stop. Remind me again which border the 9/11 terrorists crossed over btw.
>>5913573
>Every jew is obligated to follow halakha daily.
The Talmud defines two states of reality one is called Darkei Shalom, which means that they DON'T have to follow certain rules to keep peace.
so how many of you faggots are actually /pol/ invaders and not even legit faggots because I refuse to believe this board is this overwhelmingly red pilled.
Fuck islam
Worst thing to happen to this world
>>5913592
All of them. They spam /v/, /a/ and /g/ as well.
What sort of cognitive dissonance do you suffer if you support islam/islamic immigrants and lgbt rights/being lgbt?
>>5913620
Identity politics, the idea that what a person "is" is more important than what he says or does.
>>5913638
But what they are is the problem
and also what they do
>>5913589
>thinks Clinton will be better
>despite enacting DOMA and DADT
And Muslims want "Kill degenerate faggots and crossdressers!" Go ahead, see how much Shillary fights for your rights. :^)
>>5913661
Where did I say anything about Clinton?
Go back to your /pol/ echo chamber, you fucking loser. And take your whiny bitch of a candidate with you
>>5910299
>Do you realise that muslims despise your way of life and would behead you at the first given opportunity if it weren't for "man-made law".
Yes, Islamists can fuck off
>>5913665
It's either Clinton, or Trump/Cruz. Who else would you pick?
>>5913672
It doesn't matter. You argued Trump is a good candidate for LGBT voters. I pointed out that bullshit.
>>5913675
I'm arguing he's a better candidate than the alternative of Jesus Freak Cruz and "My Husband didn't veto DOMA and enacted DADT" Clinton.
>>5913677
I think Clinton's a snake, but she's a better LGBT candidate than Cruz or Trump. Sanders is the best but he's not going to get the nomination.
I'm not voting for Hillary, but if LGBT issues are your main concern, I'd argue she's your best ticket. DADT was a different time she has "evolved" by taking Bernie's stances because she'll do anything for votes, not unlike Trump. Trump may change, but right now he's sucking up to the religious and southern base and that means "marriage is between a man and a woman" and "discrimination laws are state rights". He's certainly not as bad as Cruz in all aspects, but fuck me if I'm going to vote for a fear mongering moron who thinks the budget is fucked because corporate welfare isn't high enough even though it's 1.5 times that of domestic welfare spending.
>>5913581
lmao first thing he'll do if he becomes president will be pitting us in camps
>>5910310
>ISIS =/= Islam
Sure pal.
The head of ISIS has a PhD in Islamic studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad.
But keep telling yourself that ISIS =/= Islam.
>>5913592
I'm just an average fag from Malmö. I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
>>5913458
Daddy doesn't hate me. He loves me and wants to protect me. My father never did that.
>>5913788
>bad person studied religion
>therefore all people of that religion are bad people
K.
>>5913788
No one can be this fucking stupid.
>>5913819
That's how Nazism and communism are viewed so what's the problem?
>>5913838
>refer *him to
>>5910299
Do you realise we knew this 20 years ago already?
Like seriously /pol/ needs to get up to date with their facts
>>5910299
Do you realize that we're aware the same is true of extremist christians?
/pol/ does their oh so original and edgy trolling enough times every day here that it would be impossible to miss.
>muh day of rope! but I'm totally on the side of you degenerates and you should support me and work against anyone I don't like!
>>5913535
>Keystone XL pipeline
Yeah we need to endanger american soil to make it easier for canada to sell oil to international markets through mexico!
Fuck those librucuck faggots stifling business and the free market by not supporting eminent domain!
>>5913930
>/pol/ needs to get up to date with their facts
muh feels > your dumb jewish "facts"
>>5910299
>All these faggots defending Islam.
Christianity was made by a sand-Jew who told people most of the Old Testament was wrong and who saved a prostitute from being stoned to death.
Islam was made by a pedophile who executed entire tribes of people for not following his beliefs.
Christianity was perverted into an evil thing despite being entirely alright.
Islam is just inherently an evil thing that people try to show as being alright.
Mohammad (shit be upon him) wrote about stoning adulterers, killing people who leave the faith, how you should treat slaved, etc.
There is no defending this shit.
>>5914622
Shut up pedo.
>>5913514
This is a very funny joke.
Christianity has conquered the Americas.
>>5910299
what you are describing is how people work op, not how islamic people work. People hate stuff thats different and will kill it if given a chance.
>>5913265
>Westernised Muslim =/= Islam by a long shot
Let's take a look at those nice Westernized Muslims shall we?
This survey asked 500 random British Muslims: "Are homosexuals morally acceptable in any way?" None of the 500 said yes.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/may/07/muslims-britain-france-germany-homosexuality
In this Norwegian peace conference hundreds of normal moderate Sunni Muslims agreed that it is a good thing to stone gay people to death.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOx6nfzrxFc
So where are these mythical Westernised Muslims who have no problems with gays?
Liberalism is a mental illness. No sane gay person would apologize and support people who want to kill them. No sane gay person would fight to allow millions of people who want to kill them to live in their country.
>>5915139
>35% of French Muslims found homosexual acts to be acceptable.
looks like they are adapting
>>5914606
>mfw I see this
>>5915147
Wrong.
In normal Western society the younger generation is less religious and more progressive than their conservative elders and more likely to support LGBT rights.
The exact opposite is happening in Islamic society, the younger generation is less tolerant and more religious than their elders.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1540895/Young-British-Muslims-getting-more-radical.html
>While only 17 per cent of over-55s said they would prefer to live under Sharia law, that increased to 37 per cent of those aged 16 to 24.
>Sharia law, which is practised in large parts of the Middle East, specifies stonings and amputations as routine punishments for crimes.
It also acts as a religious code for living, covering dietary laws and dress codes. Religious police are responsible for bringing suspects before special courts.
>The poll found that just 19 per cent of Muslims over 55 would prefer to send their children to Islamic state schools. That increased to 37 per cent of those aged 16 to 24.
>If a Muslim converts to another religion, 36 per cent of 16-to-24-year-olds thought this should be punished by death, compared with 19 per cent of 55s and over.
>According to the poll, 74 per cent of those aged 16 to 24 prefer Muslim women to wear the veil, compared with only 28 per cent of over 55s.
The younger a Muslim is the more likely they are to want to kill you. The majority of Islamic terror attacks in Western countries come from 2nd or 3rd generation immigrants who have grown up in a Western country.
>>5915139
christians are just as closed minded towards homosexuals? why should I support ring wing trump supporters? I'm not gonna let your camp turn me into a racist bigot with biased "evidence" so fuck off /pol/ I have a shit ton of Islamic friends who don't give a shit about sexual preference, you don't know anything except your /pol/ echo chamber.
we shouldve never made an /lgbt/ board. I really didn't need to see that, through /pol/ influence, even marginalized LGBT could be hateful towards people who face all the same struggles as we do
>>5915178
>christians are just as closed minded towards homosexuals?
Christians don't throw gay people off roofs.
I understand there is a knee jerk reaction when liberals are confronted with the utter hatred that Muslims hold for LGBT people but the religions are not comparable.
There are many Christian churches which are pro-gay and support gay marriage, there are many more which consider gay acts to be immoral but still support gay people. There are ZERO Muslims who do this.
Even if your dream that all Christians were universally hostile to gays was correct, why would you want to make the problem worse by importing Muslims.
They want to kill us, why are you defending them by claiming that Christians want to kill us too so that excuses Islam?
>>5915189
Lol, do you really think that being afraid of the fact that Muslims hate gay people and want to kill us is 'hateful'?
>>5915177
>teenagers have extreme ideals
now that's something totally completely new!
>>5911440
Russia bans gay pride and generally showing your homosexuality in public under pain of a ~$72 (well close to $600 when accounting for the average wage being 8 times lower) fine for a general citizen, raising if you're a public official or foreign national and maxing at ~$14500 if you're a business making money off of it (technically you need to be 'promoting to minors' but they tend to be around public areas anyway so that's the effect). How many Muslim countries are there that put less of a 'weight' than a $72 fine if they discover you being gay in the privacy of your own home let alone in public?
>>5915191
>they want to kill us
>my entire viewpoint is based off /pol/ fearmongering
trashed? trashed!
>>5910809
Looks like you're a faggot AND a retard. His initial argument was that Islam is a cancerous religion that needs to die.
Your response to that was
>but Christianity is bad also!
He didn't say shit about Christianity, you're avoiding the painful reality that there is a culture of people who would literally blow themselves up if it meant taking you with them.
>>5915198
>now that's something totally completely new!
Western teenagers are more likely to support LGBT rights, no one thinks that these teenagers will suddenly stop supporting LGBT rights once they become older. Why do you think that Muslims will suddenly do so?
okay think of it this way /pol/
>be uneducated Islamic citizen walking down the street
>suddenly 20~ years of nonstop bombing and murder by world
>hurr why do they hate us
WE ARE THE TERRORIST. THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO HATE US. WE HAVE NO RIGHT TO HATE THEM IF WE HAVE BEEN BOMBING AND MARGINALIZING THEM AND GETTING INVOLVED IN THEIR AFFAIRS FOR YEARS. WE ARE IN THE WRONG NOT THEM.
It is the duty of all LGBT to stand up for hte rights of every man, no matter what they say or do, because WE ARE THE REAL HULK HOGAN. All marginalized groups should be considered LGBT allies.
>>5915207
they will just giving that much of a fuck once they get older and busy with other stuff. Both pro and anti lgbt.
>>5915222
>just giving
just stop*
>>5915219
But Muslims have been killing gays for thousands of years. Literally every single one of them since their religion was created has deserved a slow and painful death. Why should I support and defend them now that they're just starting to get what they deserve?
>>5915203
Gay people are literally being murdered all over the world by Muslims and you want to import them into the West. There is concrete evidence that these immigrants are not become more tolerant of gays, that they are actually becoming more intolerant and hateful. Your reaction to this information is to act like a retard.
> Of all sad words of tongue or pen, the saddest are these: /pol/ was right again.
>>5915233
That's low, anon. Very, very low. Starting to dig petrol down here.
"It has long been assumed that the Arab-Islamic societies have always been more tolerant of homosexuality than the West.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_the_Middle_East#History
>people not knowing we're one of the most despised minorities in the world
>people not knowing it'll always be that way
Why can't you people understand?
Is it hope?
>>5915248
Justice isn't low. And where did I say that westerners used to be better about these things then Arabs? Where did you get the notion that I don't want all straight people worldwide to suffer and die for what they've done?
>>5915253
>No, /pol/. They need time. Everything Europe is doing a step in the right direction towards opening their eyes to western world views.
Except they are literally becoming less tolerant as time goes by. Compared to older generations of Muslims they are more likely to be Conservative, Ultra-Religious and hate LGBT people.
Muslims have lived in Russia and India for hundreds of years and they have NEVER integrated. The Muslim religion is too cohesive and they are a large enough community that they can self sustain without having to alter their beliefs.
I have shown you evidence that Muslims are universal bigoted and homophobic and that this bigotry is increasing rather than getting better. Why don't you try and provide counter evidence which doesn't rely on your political ideology?
>>5915191
Christians in the U.S. don't commit violent acts because they exist in a stable country with rule of law. The vast majority of Arab Muslims do not exist in such countries. The same bible passage that is used to justify Islamic treatment of homosexuals is used by Christians in their bible. Both Muslims and Christians believe these parts of the bible as the absolute word of God as a central part of their religion.
The majority of Muslim immigrants in Britain exist outside society. They are not economically or socially connected to the state. *This is the equivalent to existing outside the rule of law.* This is why extremism thrives.
The fact that the very article you linked goes on to describe a difference in opinion between British Muslims and Muslims in other countries shows that intolerance is not inherent in these people. If there was an inherent difference, why would that difference be variable amongst different locations, and why would that difference be tied to material changes in those people's lives, such as higher employment rates?
>>5915273
That might be your view, but /pol/ and likeminded reactionaries sure seem like a helluva strange ally of convenience.
>>5910299
better rapists than racists.
>>5915284
there is no need to evidence, our love for them despite all hardships will eventually win them over to our side. They do hate us, but that is their dated religious beliefs influencing them. Which is why I said, integration isn't instantaneous. We need to welcome more with more open arms. If they attack us so be it, that is the price of a better, multicultural future. One day it WILL end, you're right wing fantasy of ISIS attacks across Europe will never happen. In fact theres strong evidence ISIS had nothing to do with the Brussels bombing and that those attacks were only carried out due to panic when the perps realized they were close to being caught.
Islam is the biggest threat LGBT safety in the world right now and anyone who doesn't see that is naïve. I know you want liberal XP but you simply cannot realistically look out for the interest of every "underdog".
>>5910929
Lesbian here. That's just tumblr dykes.
>>5911000
All I see is an oxymoron. Any real feminist would realize that Islamic culture is *the* rape culture.
>>5915318
>we just do it for liberal cool points xDDD
fuck off , you're a fake.
>>5915240
>Gay people are literally being murdered all over the world by Muslims
This is so right-wing tumblr it's laughable
Plus we are not importing muslims, we are temporarily housing refugees. People who wanted to get out of Syria.
>>5915324
You can't judge a culture without knowing it deeply first. There are more muslims women in position of power than in the West.
>>5915273
Your view seems a bit prejudiced and uniformed. In Oman for exemple, gay penalties are not enforced and it's "just" Russia-level hate, but I don't see much people arround here hating on Russians.
>all these fucking /pol/tards leaping out of the woodworks
ya, I'm going to reddit. I really am. Just gonna stay on nonimportant boards like /v/ and /tv/. Fucking Right wing racist homosexuals I never EVER thought I would see this day.
>>5915312
Please tell me this is some high quality bait and not a sincere opinion.
>>5915329
No anon, I'd argue that I'm the real one here. Your idea that Muslims and LGBT people are natural allies is the fallacy. Most "moderate" Muslims would vote for penalizing homosexuality. The idea that they will overlook our degenerate lifestyle is false. You either don't believe it or are stupid.
>>5915287
You have zero proof of any of that.
When Muslims literally stand up and say they hate you and want you to die you say they do not know what they want and they are just mistaken. When LGBT people are threatened and murdered you make excuses for their attackers.
The only time you stop to fight back is when you take the time to attack right wingers and Christians, assuring everyone that they are as bad as people who are actually killing LGBT people. When shown proof that this is not the case you claim that they would be if circumstances were different.
You are tying yourself in rhetorical knots trying to rationalize an opinion that is based off your feelings.
You support Muslims because the liberal tribe is predisposed to support Muslims and non-Whites. This is the same reason why you take so much time to attack Christianity, even though Christianity has nothing to do with the argument of what Muslims believe.
You also support LGBT rights, and when faced with the conflict between being pro-LGBT rights and supporting a large group which wants to kill LGBT you suffer from cognitive dissonance.
I have no hope you will break out of this pattern, but I am explaining it for any fellow legbutts who wonder how someone could be so ridiculous.
>>5915344
>racists
Better make it tumblr. Islam isn't a race, you fuckwit. I hate Scientologists too but no one's calling the SPLC over that.
>>5915351
This. So hard.
>>5915253
At first I read that and was terrified by the notion of you casting a vote -- then I remembered that minors can't vote.
>>5915393
He might be naive but his point is reasonable enough. We can get them on our side if we aren't even trying.
>>5915365
I don't hate Russians, I hate the Russian government who's using gay as a big boogeyman.
Hating people is unhealthy.
>>5915352
You aren't fooling anyone. You hate them because they are brownskinned and it's hip to hate Arabs.
>>5910944
Your numbers are completely off. Please Stop posting disinformation.
Brussels, the capitol of Eu, is 25% Muslim. That's disgraceful. Your Europeans are a bunch of pussy cucks who hate your own culture. Many of you honestly make me sick and I feel sad that I share generic heritage with you cucks who want to flood your nation with islam
>>5910987
Look at this cucked European everyone. "Its OUR FAULT the Muslims blew us up. We weren't nice enough to them! Let's give Muslims more free welfare then they won't bomb us!".
You seriously make me sick to my stomach. White people are so pathetic
>>5911024
Wrong. 2 we're refugees. Stop spreadng misinformation cuck
>>5911058
Also this isn't me. Just came upon this comment now and am happy someone else sees Europeans for the cucks they are.
>>5911116
So. Essentially what you are saying is that you are betting the future of your entire nation and ethnic race of your people that they "probably " wont out breed you and that if they do it will take a few generations do who cares.
Your ancestors would be ashamed that pussies like you are those who replced them
>>5910987
Uhm a few of them were syrian
>>5911216
They don't need a party yiu fucking idiot. Their entire religion is a fascist political ideology. Read about what Islam fucking is holy shit. Its essentially Nazism with Mohammad as Hitler and the world as "their land" rather than Germany
>>5911372
Typical pussy liberal logic. "Guyzzzz we can't stop them let's just let them all in. We are powerless!!". You idiots realize we have these things called borders and we have these things called the military and police to secure those borders. I don't see Japan and korea bending to globalism like cucked Europeans are. In 2000 years Japan will still be Japan and Sweden will be swedistan they are already like 19% Muslim have only 20 fucking years of immigration. Think about after 200 years
>>5910299
They make bomb ass food and dont bother me.
>>5915757
I'm simply saying that fear Muslims will out-breed us is daydreaming.
>>5915771
What the fuck am I reading
Why do so many people here know so many things about Islam that tend to be proven false by how Muslims actually behave ?
This great fear is so childish. Act like a rational adult and judge people by their acts, not their skin or their religion.
Do you realize that "Muslims" have many different sects and rigor of practitioner?
>>5910415
Yeah, and the Christian Bible says to kill all fags, and the Hindi have scriptures demanding the destruction of the planet. I have more to fear from you and your white boy entitlement than I have from Arabs and Asians. Refugees are fleeing those assholes. They're not the same people, and your insistence to treat them the same actually gives Daesh more recruitment fodder.
>>5915764
None of them were Syrian. None of the rapists in Germany were either, and even those were grossly outnumbered by the German-born white German rapists that rove around the cities. But no one talks about that, because it's not about rape, just like it's not about murder, just like it's not about poverty and not about immigration. It's just more nationalist bullshit so you can shit on brown people.
>>5915795
And before the jews Christed up the place, Sweden was worshipping tree spirits and their mushroom highs. You don't actually give a shit, you're just a pussy.
>>5911671
>Christians are just as bad
You know how mathematically impossible such a fucking statement like that is, yet you and other libtards spout that shit.
Christianity has one part of it that makes it so much better than Islam in every way. The passage "leave on to Ceaser what is Ceaser's and leave on to god what is god's" which means that, while Christians can respect secular(or non-christian) governments while in islam the only right form of goverment is Sharia Law.
Fuck off with your god damn equality bullshit, these are two different religions that teach two different things, there is a reason why out of i think it was 452 suicide bombings, 450 were muslim.
>>5910299
>the two on the left are lesbians
>the two on the right are trans
>while they hold this sign gay men are being hung from cranes, thrown off buildings, and stoned by the very people the L's and T's apologize to
What good ever came out of a desert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk
Daily Reminder.
>>5920339
Might have more to do with the fact that the Middle-East is at war.
>>5920339
Do you have any idea how many christian domestic terrorist attacks their are in the united states every year?
>about 500
>their are around 100 abortion clinic arson/bombings each year alone
Christians believe all the same barbaric horseshit that muslims do. They are just as violent.
I'm not preaching equality. I'm demanding that christians be held accountable for their barbaric actions.
I am advocating for an end to Judeo/Christian religions in all forms.
>arrest all the priests on any given sunday, and brand their cattle, a cross below the eye would work.
>>5920339
http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/10-worst-terror-attacks-extreme-christians-and-far-right-white-men
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#United_States
Google does wonders for the ignorance
>>5916405
Just because Muslims fleeing conflict aren't as "bad" as ISIS members doesn't mean that they are somehow morally infallible. For the large part the culture they ascribe to is backwards as fuck and deserves every criticism it receives.
Hanging gays from cranes, stoning, forcing women to live in bags, honor killings etc are widely supported by people coming from the Muslim world and they don't come to hold these beliefs by accident.
Shitty ideologies and inferior cultures need to be challenged, and the idea that by doing so is to play into The hands of people like Daesh is fucking retarded.
>>5920401
China has done/is doing just as bad if not tibetans and we are not seeing the same type of terrorist attacks.
>>5920407
>Le judeo religions are bad.
Tennents of buddism are what led to Kamakazi, and it's honor killings are very common in hinduism.
>>5920415
>Google does wonders for the ignorance
You must not being using google that much than.
>more terrorist attacks are done by the group of people in the country that make up, at the very least 70% of the country as apposed to the 1% group.
Gee golly
>Terrorism is the only reason why Islam is bad
How about the millions of gays waking up in middle east countries who live in fear? How about the women who are subjugated? How about the apostates, christians, and jews who live in middle east countries constantly fearing death?
If there is a god I thank him every day that I am born in a christian country. The real victim here is not the muslim majority in christian/secular countries, but the minorities in muslim countries and if you can't see that than you are ignorant.
>>5920497
Sorry I meant to say, just as bad, if not worst to tibetans.
>It's just as bad as Christianity guys!
Fucking so? If it's just as bad as Christianity, like you say, we don't want to bring in more do we?
Stop acting like it's a question of Islam or Christianity. Because it isn't. Many European countries are moving away from Christianity. It literally only serve to shift the discussion away from the actual topic and onto "What's worse?" It simply isn't relevant.
The reason Christianity isn't being put under the same scrutiny is because it's home grown crazy. We're not in the middle of importing a shitload of Christians in such a way that they're going to form their own communities and never, ever integrate or change their views. You cannot deal with the Christian thing by simply not importing Christians.
Also, y'know, no worldwide and extremely active terrorist organisation of Christians that can, have and will take advantage of the reckless way they're being imported.
>>5920497
>Kamikaze is bad
>"You're not allowed to fight back if you will win, then you're the oppressor! What? No, you're not allowed to fight back if you're the loser, because then you're kamikaze! You're not allowed to fight back!"
Not saying Buddhism is good, I'd gladly enslave all of them for life and then kill them when I'm done. But pretending like kamikaze is inherently immoral is a really bitch move, and not particularly convincing. Half of all movies with heroes and villains feature at least one or more heroes committing kamikaze and being celebrated for it, and you think you can turn around and say it's bad when people you don't like do it, and trick the enemy into stopping it?
>LGBT Against Islamophobia
Is it any wonder that the useful idiots are always the first ones to get the ax?
>>5916381
I literally am judging Islam but the people who are in it you moron.
>>5916415
When was the last 100s of German born whites gathered around a train station and grabbed and molested every woman coming out. Youfucking cuck?
>>5916448
Not as pussy cucked ultra feminist Swedes. Want to know what those fags did to respond to immigrant rape? They wore skirts and walked down main street. That shit is cringy and beta as Fuck and this is coming from a tranny
I carry a gun. the minute some muslim starts giving me problems. I shoot them.
I wish more homos were actually aware of how shit Islam is. There is literally nothing wrong with the rejection of a belief system if that belief system is inherently bad.
>>5921021
They can't reach this point.
They can at some level agree that Scientology is worst than say, buddism or some other belief, but the second you say a religion that is practiced by in large by people who aren't white they get this idea in there heads that it becomes racist.
All religions are a set of ideas and all ideas can and should be criticized and not all ideas are created equal. Regardless of the race of people who follow that religion predominately . A white muslim is following a worse religion than a black buddist.
People have been sold this meme that all Religions are equal. If religion is bad than all religions are equally as bad, if religion is good all religions are good, if religion is benign all religions are benign.
The fact is that islam, and countries ran by laws dictated by that religion cause more suffering than countries that follow Christianity and if I am wrong find me a majority muslim country where I would want to live in as a Gay atheist.
If you still want to believe that all religions are created equal, will you at least grant me that Islam, and the Islamic community are an immature religion that needs to be reformed? I can draw Jesus and Buddah having gay sex and not have to fear for my life, I can't even draw Mohammed in any form without that happening. Yes Christianity sucks to and sucked more in the past, but a funny thing called the renaissance happened and we don't have 2000 years to wait for the muslims to do the same as the west placates there childish behavior.
Yes I am mad I wish it was more vogue in the gay community to call shit like this out.
>>5921089
Organized religion is dog shit. Plain and simple. As soon as you let other people decide how you live your life, you have lost.
>>5921110
What a nuanced opinion.
Again I say this as an atheist, but following a religion, at least passively, has been proven to lead to a longer life, a greater sense of community, and at least in the U.S. has proven to be correlated with over all generosity in a person.
Yes, all religions have awful unforgivable and embarrassing passages, but if you are saying that all religions have no possible benefits and are just dogshit than I honestly don't think you come from a very educated place, the fact is some religions are worse than others and should be criticized as such.
>>5921127
>not thinking about realistic problems and not dealing with them in a proper way lowers stress
Well no shit, son.
That doesn't mean we can sit idly by and let cancer spread. Give Islamic entities and strength at all and you'll start seeing the bodies of lgbt people everywhere
>>5921147
I'm not giving islam strength, i'm just saying we don't need to through the christian baby out with the bathwater.
Yes it would be nice if I could wake up tomorrow and there be no religion, but I don't honestly think antagonizing Christians and Jews and any other religion who's worst stance on me at this point is "I don't think you are entitled to the same tax status with your male partner as me" just to attempt to pacify (it won't) muslim babies.
>>5921174
There's a difference between antagonizing somebody and preventing it from passing legislation and affecting the death toll.
>>5921191
Are you talking outside of the U.S. about a country that I haven't been paying attention to? Because the worst thing happening to gays here I can find is unenforceable sodomy laws, NC I think passing legislation putting a sort of bounty for catching trans people using the wrong bathroom (which is 1 also unenforcable and 2, the bounty is payed by the owner of the building he/she was caught in not the trans person itself), and certain bakery's not willing to put gary and terry on a cake.
Can you please send me a link showing me what first world christian country with a death toll for homosexuals. Or have you already decided in your head that organized religion of all flavors are just as bad as each other and oppressing you.
>>5910455
B-but refugees are totally fleeing that and would never hold any belief that is dangerous and actually commonly held throughout the muslim world such as ostracize and kill non-straight people! That is, if you're even considered a person by them!
>>5921021
>I wish more homos were actually aware of how shit Islam is.
"All these homos" are actually either a few famous TV celebs, or straight people who wriggled themselves to the top of the community as our "spokespeople".
Gays are aware of how shit islam is, and they don't like islam.
They just don't say so because if they do then their progressive upperclass white cis straight overlords will brandish the maximum punishment.
>>5910455
Oh ffs
This has nothing to do with islam, which is the shittiest of a bunch of shitty religions, and everything to do with humans being human.
We war. A LOT. That map is not particularly exceptional. Look at the expansion of Rome, the Mongols, China, Nazi Germany, the USSR, the Aztecs or christianity.
Violence, blood and terror are old human staples. Islam is not special, just extra chunky shit on the bloody heap.
>>5910623
#3 is metal as FUCK. Holy shit, man.
God DAMN.
>>5911227
>Implying sluts are bad
kek
>>5910299
why does /pol/ keep coming to /lgbt/ to shill trump and some other bullshit? stay in your containment board, please
>>5915233
literally everyone's been killing gay people until the last century started welcome to being a fucking minority you retarded piece of shit. sotp shilling your insane worldview and go back to /pol/ where you can all cry and fellate each other when trump loses to whatever tree stump the democrats decide to run because there is literally no way he's getting voted
General opinion: I don't like Islam (just as I don't like any religion), but I won't hate an individual until they give me a reason to.
Honestly I dislike muslims because they arent white and I take advantage of terrorism to try and convince other people to hate them as well.
t. /pol/
>>5923722
Because a good deal of their impotent anger and frustration comes from being deeply repressed self-hating faggots.
>All this "if you dislike islam you must be /pol/ or right wing"
Listen to Sam Harris or Gad Saad or anyone who isn't a fucking regressive leftist. The fact is if you don't believe that there is any problem with islam, you are creating more suffering than you would with "islamophobia"
Also accusing hatred of islam comes from race/racism. Majid Nawaz and Ayaan Hirsi Ali are fucking fascinating to listen to and actual fucking intellectuals. Islam isn't a race and stop pretending it is. Islam is a set of ideas that should be challenged.
>>5910299
I think about this every day, as at the corner of my street is a big social housing complex.
>>5910299
I despise middle-aged muslim culture as well, and I have a knife. Try to get me (^:
>>5910299
Every muslum wants nothing but death and destruction. They want every lgbt person killed in the most violent way possible. How IN THE WORLD can an lgbt person say that Islam is good for us?
>>5923985
>I love getting killed by brown men because they are brown and everything non white = eternal innocence
thats what all these extreme lefties sound like
Here's a nice little thread we had on /pol/ for any LGBT still shilling for Islam
>>>/pol/68899769
tl;dr
>some pro gay rights hashtag is trending in Saudi
>muslim twitter reacts with animalistic hate
>>5926807
>>5926834
>>5926844
>>5926848
>>5926850
I come from a Muslim country. It's not unlike USA 40 or 50 years ago. Plus it's changing for the better.
>>5926850
wow I'm 100% sure all libtards are devil worshippers. I can't believe how somebody could seriously defend these violent people who are filled with pure rage and hate of another human beings life.
A real God would never want us to kill his creations no matter if it's gay or not. This shows us that this religion is pure evil. All they do is spread violence and hate speech.
>>5926770
multiculturalism is good for everyone.
>>5927194
So if you were killed because of a physiological difference you had no choice in having, it'd be good because of "muh multiculturalism".
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lfUj4QJGnok
>>5927229
Anything for a greater good for everyone.
>>5927245
Have you seen the video though? You following the advice in that link would lead to a greater good for everyone.
>>5927251
Listening to your own words is a good habit.
>>5926834
>horny gay garbage
This is comedy gold, I've been to Saudi and Arab emirates and never I've been flirted by men so much. Their sexual urges are so repressed they go for guys since it's no problem for two guys to hang out in Saudi. Just like Cruz sex scandal proves all these religious nuts are hypocrites when it comes to sex, their God simply can't fight your biology.
>>5927446
Got a "real one"? Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk?
>>5913421
>"christ said"
>hebrews
I love how far back you're all willing to bend for islam, but still thing that harmless yet judgemental christianity is the real enemy. You'd never support christianity like this and neither islam if you knew better.
>>5925265
Hes right you idiot.
>>5920497
>>Le judeo religions are bad.
>Tennents of buddism are what led to Kamakazi, and it's honor killings are very common in hinduism.
Ok so those are bad, they should also be subject to eradication. Pagans seem to be the only ones not killing everyone for once.
