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Young gay man: Why I’m voting for Hillary Clinton
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http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/article65160552.html
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She lies about black criminality and thinks black communities need less policing.
This whole channel exposes it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRGIoM2NCkc
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Sorry this was a better vid on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMCC7zcSC5I
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>>5850470
>black communities need less policing.

Didn't she say a few years ago that they were "super predators?"
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>>5850467
>>>/pol/
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>>5850467
Oh my god.
That article is practically the embodiment of "it's the current year, I mean come on".

It's threading the line between being actually retarded and clever satire.
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>Young gay man
>Look up author
>He looks well into his 30s
>Young gay man
>Young
>"I am proud to be a gay millennial"
>millennial
>young
>30s

Pic fucking related. Hillary supporters are cancerous liars.
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The guy gives no reasons to support Clinton over Sanders. There's no argument present. It's just a list of pro-gay Hillary quotes.
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>>5852275
She's a woman. What other reason do you need to vote for her?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHJEtTZJ9rY
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>>5852275
>The guy gives no reasons to support Clinton over Sanders. There's no argument present. It's just a list of pro-gay Hillary quotes.

Sanders hasn't really pandered or address LGBT issues during his campaign. Why is it not a single LGBT organization has endorsed him?
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>>5850467
>Why am I voting for her? Because she's pro-lgbt, duh!

I mean, you can vote whoever you want, but taking just your sexuality into account to decide is retarded as fuck.
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>>5850467
http://gawker.com/remember-when-hillary-clinton-was-against-gay-marriage-1714147439
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Now that the SCOTUS has ruled in favor of gay marriage. I have no reason to vote for those scum sucking Democrats.

Especially now that they want to take my guns and bring in muslims who want to kill me.
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>>5852275
She has a much higher chance of winning the general election. Personally I'm rooting for Sanders still, but if (when) she wins the dem nomination only an idiot (or a republican, but same thing :^^^) ) would refuse to vote for her out of spite.
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>>5855551
You obviously don't understand how much she is hated
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>>5855549
>Now that the SCOTUS has ruled in favor of gay marriage. I have no reason to vote for those scum sucking Democrats.

You can still be fired, deny services (including medical treatment), insurance, credit, and housing based off your sexual orientation you stupid motherfucker.

>Especially now that they want to take my guns

Hmmmm I guess those "Muslims" will use those guns to kill your racist ass.

>and bring in muslims who want to kill me.

Yeah because Christians in the GOP totally don't want to kill us! It's not like Muslims are 0.0001% of the population.
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>>5855560
>You obviously don't understand how much she is hated

A Republican cannot win a presidential election (without rigging the election (Bush)) anymore. Statically minorities, LGBTs, women, etc. will all vote Democrat. A Republican cannot win anymore with only stupid dumb white people anymore. And since that group declines more and more every year, the GOP will die out soon enough, just like the whig party.

Trump is going to be the final nail in the coffin for the GOP.
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>>5855549
And just in case you stupid enough to vote GOP:

>Trump supporters demand Ted Cruz disavow firebrand ‘kill the gays’ pastor

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/trump-supporters-demand-ted-cruz-disavow-firebrand-kill-the-gays-pastor/news-story/7ef3873a38600f733b0d5e4e9b1bc904
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>>5855535
>remember-when-hillary-clinton-was-against-gay-marriage

Remember when 70% of all Americans opposed gay marriage like less than 10 years ago?
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>>5855565
>You can still be fired, deny services (including medical treatment), insurance, credit, and housing based off your sexual orientation you stupid motherfucker.
WAAAHHH!!! freedom of association is bigoted. Seriously fuck outa here.

>Hmmmm I guess those "Muslims" will use those guns to kill your racist ass.
Wot m8 guns have nothing to do with killing muzzrats unless said muzzrat tries to go meet allah and take a bunch of people with him.

>Yeah because Christians in the GOP totally don't want to kill us! It's not like Muslims are 0.0001% of the population.
I can't for the life of me remember in the last 50 years when christfags where hanging and tossing gays of buildings.
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>>5855578
They still do, they're just quiet about their objection because it's now law to allow it.
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>>5855578
70% opposed it, sure. What is leadership to you, just populism?
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>>5855580
>Freedom of association is bigoted.

Correct.

You're just shitposting typical liberal nonsense, confusing association between individuals with association between an organization and an individual.
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too bad TRUMP is going to win
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>>5855670
Bhahahahahahahaah!AHHHHH HAHAHAH.
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>>5855667
Organizations that are not the govt can be as bigoted as they damn well please. An individual started the and runs the group and they can choose who can be apart of it as they like.
Fuck off with your legislated morality, left or right, the world would be a better place if you people would seriously fucking mind your own business.
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>>5855679

Only chance Hillary has of winning is if she makes Bernie her VP.
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>>5855572
Well said. Trump isn't even Republican, he is a populist crypto-liberal.
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>>5855687
>muh liberties
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>>5855692
Then what protects your right to be gay dumbshit.
FFS gif you live in the US get the fuck out.
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>>5855687

Fucking lol, organizations are the government. Are you so blue pilled that you actually think your life is governed by your elected representatives? You're playing the white house's game when you view the forces that determine your life as your govt representatives.

Fuck off with YOUR legislated morality where people's lives rest in the hands of corporate dictatorship. The world would be a better place if you actually understood how to leave people alone, it sure as fuck isn't by firing them and denying them medical services because they put their dicks in holes you don't like.
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>>5855702
Politics is about power. Liberty is a spook
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>>5855687
Yeah I remember how great it was for African Americans under Jim Crow.
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>>5855705
Jesus man if you think govt is going to protect you form these "ebil corpurashuns" you have some bad news coming.
And yeah a doctor can tell any one to fuck off for any reason why does his profession make him fix your every problem where as when you call an ISP for support they can tell you to eat shit. It's a service like everything else, and it's a business. If a doctor wants to be a dumbshit and turn away clients thats his choice.
>>5855711
>Implying there will actually be liberty as long as politics is still around.
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>>5855729
>being an anarchist
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>>5855728
yeah I also remember jim crow was a governemtn program you fucking idiot.
Not a private organization. Oh and it was created by Democrats.
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>>5855731
>Being a shill for his masters.
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>>5855732
>yeah I also remember jim crow was a governemtn program you fucking idiot.

Jim crow was both government enforced and done by private businesses in states without Jim Crow laws you stupid faggot.

>Oh and it was created by Democrats.

And you are the party saying we should repeal the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which a Democrat signed into law. That' why racist homophoes like you will never win the white house.
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>>5855729

You have already made it clear that the government, the real government, is going to turn me away for basically any reason when I go and try to get my broken leg put into a cast.

I mean fuck man, I already made it clear that I have zero belief in the existing bullshit "elected" aspect of government, I'm telling you that essential services that keep you alive and you can't do yourself ARE government. I want all aspects of government to be democratic, as in actually controlled by the people that use them, not either governed by the 4 year political class suggestion box or the whims of Martin Fucking Shkreli.

Your absurd picture of "choice" assumes that the patient is even capable of choosing another doctor. You can't conceive of anything but liberal parliamentary democracy or what seems to be some half-assed understanding of libertarianism, both trash ideologies.
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>>5855731
He's not an anarchist, anarchists don't believe in capitalism.
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>>5855747
Hahahahaha, what the fuck dude? You lick the actual shit off the boot that kicked you out of the emergency room for being gay, then turn around and say you're fighting the man?
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>>5855750
Im not a republican so you can fuck off with that shit.
Private business can refuse service for any reason including being black or what ever. How ever the Govt should not have been able to sponsor it and exclude people from public property or events. Do you see the difference Private business onl y the patrons pay for it they can do what they want. Govt everyone has to pay they cannot discriminate in anyway. Does this make sense?
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>>5855760
>You lick the actual shit off the boot that kicked you out of the emergency room for being gay, then turn around and say you're fighting the man?

Oh and he'll claim to be an "anarchist" but he'll vote for GOP, a big government statist party. He's a two face piece of shit.
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>>5855760
I have never been refused medical service but I am also not a retard and can pay for it.
I dont know what you are getting at here.
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>>5855758
>what is anarchocapitalism
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Look, I'm just going to put this out there for the politically illiterate on government: when American democracy was created, it was created for the ruling classes who owned land and businesses, with a couple of concessions to the merchant class that made their existence possible. It wasn't made for you.

Libertarians fail to realize that creating a government to enforce laws and contracts that are anti-competitive is in the best interests of major businesses, and hey guess fucking what? That's exactly what they did. Go figure.
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>>5855764
I don't vote, I never have.
>>5855758
Implying anarchy does not have an economic system.
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>>5855762
>Private business

Again you do realize I'm a socialist right?

> for any reason including being black or what ever.

Maybe we should just go back to slavery as well and say fuck all workers rights as well?

>Does this make sense?

Not at all. Again I believe in workers control of production. So I don't believe in "private businesses." I'm a socialist.
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>>5850467
2015 Woman of the Year, Caitlyn Jenner, endorses Trump and calls Hillary a liar.


http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/caitlyn-jenner-calls-hillary-clinton-a-f--king-liar-praises-donald-trump-w166946

is this real life?
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>>5855766
>what is anarchocapitalism

Doesn't exist. You can't have capitalism without the state. The state must exist to maintain capitalism. That's why all capitalists are supporters of a big government nanny state (Republicans) while praising the "free market."
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>>5855765
You know exactly what I'm getting at and are desperately avoiding it because you think it somehow stops you from looking like a brain dead anachro capitalist.

Here's a hint though, you cannot strictly have collective or individual rights on their own. One encroaches on the other eventually.
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>>5855772
Ok we will not agree with anything and we will not make sense to each other.
But thinking Hillary gives a fuck about the working man is insane. Bernie is the better choice.
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>>5855782
bruv?
cap·i·tal·ism
ˈkapədlˌizəm/
noun
an economic and political system in which a country's trade and industry are controlled by private owners for profit, rather than by the state.
Where does it say anywhere that the govt is going to be involved?
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>>5855784
Collective rights are bullshit I don't have a conflict here.
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>>5855792
>Where does it say anywhere that the govt is going to be involved?

Capitalism is highly unstable. Let me give you an example:

2008 the stock market crashes due to deregulation caused by Clinton/Bush Jr. administration.

The Koch brothers, who claim to support free markets, come out for the bail out of wallstreet. Why? Because everyone, even so called free market capitalists knew that if they let the banks fail, capitalism would collapse.
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>>5855798
Cool dude. I mean, I've already proven you wrong by showing you when an individual is a victim of the collective, but cool.

Just in case you're capable of comprehending an idea you oppose rather than dismissing it with the safety blanket you've covered your eyes with, read this.
>>5855768
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>>5855792
>M-M-M-MUH DICTIONARY!!!

You're pathetic.
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>>5855777
>Caitlyn Jenner, endorses Trump

No he endorsed Ted "kill the gays" Cruz
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>>5855800
Ok that is not capitalism that is a mixed economy.

>>>5855768
And that collective is victimizing you how? oh right usually force through the govt. because that govt does not respect your individual rights.
>>5855805
Also never said that I think our govt is the greatest thing on the planet or that it was the best thing ever. I agree with this poster.
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>>5850559
yes of course
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ISIS is the most libertarian society on the planet because once you get rid of government, RELIGION takes over society. Only the laws of religion apply, not government. libertarian society would be the best way to execute and kill and lgbt people.
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>>5855807
>Words don't mean anything!!!
Are you illiterate? Seriously how do you fucking have a conversation when definitions, context and concepts don't mean specific things?
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>>5855814
>Ok that is not capitalism that is a mixed economy.

No, it is capitalism, it's state capitalism. Just because it's not MUH FREE MARKET doesn't mean it's not capitalism.
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>>5855819
Again, no it isn't you inbred igit by definition that is a mixed economy not capitalism. there is not govt capitalism only in a private economy you know fucking private not government run is there capitalism.
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>>5855814

All right, we're pretty close to agreeing here. What I'm telling you is that capitalism can't function on free association and will always victimize people by force through the best interests of the capitalist class.

Like, I'm a capitalist, I own a factory that treats it's workers like shit. The workers are not free to leave in any meaningful sense. Maybe one or two go full on survivor man into the woods, but most want to support their kids or their wives or their families. What do they do? They go on strike, maybe even ad-hoc and without a union.

Now as the factory owner, capitalist, I fucking hate that. I don't respect their right to freedom of association, I want my fucking widgets built and shipped out by the end of the day! It makes economic sense for me to threaten them with violence and get them to go back to work rather than meet their demands IF violence is cheaper, and it almost fucking always is.

The ancap stuff that you seem to be pushing relies on economic rational self interest, and economic rational self interest results in violence.
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>>5855818
>MUUUUUH DIIIIICTIONNNNNAAAARYYYY

Look, ya cute silly goose, the dictionary definition of a political word refers to its platonic ideal meaning, not what it is in practice. Go look up "communism" and get ready to have your ass blown off 'cause it'll say " a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs." That's not really what people think of when they hear communism, they think of a dictatorship government that murdered a shit ton of people.

In fact, most people think of a government when they say publicly owned. They don't think of the public owning it. In fact, I doubt you can think of a way for the public to actually own something that ISN'T American democracy. There is, of course.

So you know. Cling on to that dictionary, brother.
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>>5855837
This is where I disagree completely trade is not violent. If it was, we would never profit from it. I cannot honestly say that I know how things would look, but we have had 10000 plus years of governments of all flavors and have they really done anything great? It seems they kill more people with each passing generation as the technology allows. I think I can safely say one thing. That govt does not, and never will have the common person interests in mind.
You may be right about capitalism I honestly cannot say I know. But what I do know is that govt will use force and violence to get it's way.
To the other posters sorry I was being a dick but please use terms correctly. it matters. Concepts and definitions matter. I don't care if you hate capitalism but use the term correctly.
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>>5855832
Government is an outgrowth of capitalism. It is in the rational economic self interest of a capitalist to make a government.

Without a government to manage the rules by which capitalists play their game, "capitalism" is little more than guerrilla warfare: cartels of X organization and Y organization fighting each other in a literal, violent sense as they struggle for power. You want to see your special definition of capitalism in action? Check out the misery of Kowloon City, or the violence between drug cartels.
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>>5855869
You know, I've been a dick too. I understand why you want to stick to a strict definition of capitalism, and I'm glad we can at least agree that the government does not have the people's best interest in mind.

I'm glad I've given you something to consider about the nature of capitalism and government, and whether or not government makes sense from the perspective of rational economic self interest. I'll stop /pol/ing up this thread now.

Sincerely, thank you for listening.
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>>5855857
Yeah I know the definition of communism, and most people using the term are using it incorrectly. Some redneck idiot yelling about the President being a communist is like I said, an illiterate idiot.
These things are not subjective and people using terms incorrectly is a sign of ignorance and lack of education.
We can debate about the end product of the communist philosophy but the term stand as you defined it.
Can we agree on that?
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>>5855883
Wow, I am like almost in tears something amiable happened on 4chan.
Go in peace friend sorry I was a dickbag.
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>>5855872
The forced black market of drugs because govt made them illegal is a product of capitalism?
I get what you are trying to show but Cartels kiling each other is because of the legality of their product.
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A female national leader is a great idea. Just look at Margaret Thatcher and all the incredible things she did.

Oh, wait.
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>>5855981
Or Merkel, oh wait

how about Evita Peron, oh no

Dilma Rousseff, nope

Yulia Tymoshenko, uh shit
female world leaders tend to be shit.
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>>5850467
Hillary Clinton has been an outspoke opponent of same-sex marriage until 2013.
The only reason she switched was because being gay became popular.
Someone post the vid.
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>>5856132
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>>5856132
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNVhODdVBMs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBk-NbMFFsw
https://youtu.be/_HjwYxatWNc?t=223
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>>5856156
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lXHtAFWbnE
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Hillary is a two faced snake women.
A puppet of whatever lobbyist or corporation is paying her, she will say and do anything to become president, if society decided to hate gays tomorrow she would start to hate gays.

The best thing that could happen is if the general election ends up Trump V sanders.

No matter who wins the establishment got fucked
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>>5856132
And Donald Trump has been for amending the civil rights act to cover us since 2000.
>http://www.advocate.com/election/2015/9/28/read-donald-trumps-advocate-interview-where-he-defends-gays-mexicans
When the leading Dem candidate is less of an ally than the leading Republishit candidate it shows how little they actually care about us
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>>5856272
>caring about if they care about us
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>>5856238
Agreed I don't like sanders to much other than he is a closet gun supporter and anti establishment as fuck.
I would actually like Trump to run with Sanders as a VP to temper some of his other shit on social issues. Seeing their debates would be awesome as well.
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>>5856098
Tymoshenko wasn't terrible or anything. It's not like she got a good country to work with
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>It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS in the 1980s. And because of both President and Mrs. Reagan, in particular, Mrs. Reagan, we started national conversation when before no one would talk about it, no one wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something that really appreciated, with her very effective, low-key advocacy, but it penetrated the public conscience and people began to say "Hey, we have to do something about this too."

kek
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>>5855551
>She has a much higher chance of winning the general election.

Every single match-up poll conducted so far contradicts you.
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>>5855572
>Trump is going to be the final nail in the coffin for the GOP.
The GOP is not going to go down quietly, when Trump becomes the nominee, his supporters are going to close their eyes/ears freight training his candidacy for President. I will not be surprise if we have an incident similar to Bloody Kanas on election day.
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>I support Hillary because she's an LGBT advocate!
>What do you mean she only started supporting LGBT rights at the last minute? H-her opinion just evolved!

Fuck this article and fuck these cognitively dissonant Hillary supporters. The shit they will come up with to justify her behavior is astonishing.
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>>5857013
>Fuck this article and fuck these cognitively dissonant Hillary supporters. The shit they will come up with to justify her behavior is astonishing.

Would you rather have someone have a change of heart on marriage equality or someone who continues to oppose it?
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>>5857189
Sanders doesn't oppose it.
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>>5856955
GOP hates something more than Trump. They hate Hillary and Democrats. There are a lot of people in the middle that hate Hillary and not so sure about Comrade Bernie's ideas.

This is the GOP's election to lose. Trump, or Cruz, will really have to fuck it.
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>not voting for Trump
>not having a cute /pol/ boyfriend
>not making America great again with him

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Nw405j2hOQ
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>>5851063
Millenial is people who came of age after 2000, bro.
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>>5855869
Trade isn't inherently capitalist.

Capitalism is a recent phenomenon.
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>>5857697
qt desu senpai
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>>5857697
Why is he so perfect?
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>>5857752
its the nose to glasses ratio
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>>5857189
I'd rather have someone who has shown, with their actions, that they genuinely support us.
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>>5857752
Finally another post of the trump qt
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>>5857697
>>5857752
>>5858231
The thought of him dressed as pic related has gotten me harder than I've been in a long time
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>>5857697
welp. i guess i'm bi...

i wanna get those glasses t b h
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http://www.queerty.com/bill-clinton-cautioned-that-hillarys-discomfort-around-gay-issues-would-hurt-her-2000-senate-bid-20150924
>Branch concluded that Clinton was “essentially I think saying that Hillary had kind of a conservative religious temperament, and was not likely to be comfortable around gay people who were kind of acting out, or pushing her to the limit. She did have general discomfort.”
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>>5858317
>Hillary had kind of a conservative religious temperament
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/06/16/hillary-clinton-bible_n_5500041.html
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>>5858317
>Branch concluded someone else concluded

Sage
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>tfw voting Trump
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>>5855777
Thank you for reminding me that a man won Woman of the Year. I needed that laugh.
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>>5857314
You are grossly underestimating how unpopular Trump is nationally.
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>>5857697
Ouch, poor guy. He did really well considering the environment. Reporter was good too.

I live in Europe and have a uni classmate who wore an official Obama support sweater last election. Notwithstanding that I think it's ridiculous to wear support for a different country's election (unless you have close ties to the country like having citizenship), it pisses me off wearing support for any other candidate would be very shunned
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>>5863036
And yet polls show that shillary manages to be even MORE unpopular.
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