Why in the fuck are so many of us voting for people like Hillary who was anti-gay marriage just a few years ago and wants to let in gung ho muslim shits who are desperate to behead us?
I mean I understand voting for Bernie or voting for Trump. But for the love of me I can't grasp the concept of a gay person voting for Hillary. Are some of us completely brainfucked?
>>5839249
Because it's long past time for there to be a woman president.
>>5839259
>she has a vagina
Fantastic meme.
>>5839259
cucked by vaginas again I see
first our men, then our country
>>5839249
>Why in the fuck are so many of us voting for people like Hillary
where did you even come up with this?
>>5839259
I don't think the US can afford to elect someone to office for tokenism in its current state.
>>5839259
just like pottery
vroom
>>5839259
this desu
>2016
>not voting for the female president
it's like you enjoy raping women 24/7
>>5839249
>Are some of us completely brainfucked?
Yes.
>>5839249
>Why in the fuck are so many of us voting for people like Hillary who was anti-gay marriage just a few years ago and wants to let in gung ho muslim shits who are desperate to behead us?
I can understand that Trump clutters away attention from his actual scandals with the sheer amount of "controversial" noise he puts out, but it's fantastic how Hillary seems to get the same result without such an approach.
Even Obama's official "evolution" on gay marriage was recent history, and Hillary was still more establishment-associated. And on immigrants? If anything, Hillary comes off as a jarringly pro-military/"national security" candidate. No candidate can realistically bar large groups of people from coming into the US on explicitly religious grounds; you can forget about that, they'll get to that once they've banned pocketknives nationwide. Even if it weren't a political pineapple (and, to be fair, shredding the remaining scraps of the constitution is pretty popular), it would probably be a really shit diplomatic move that would get the moneyed interests riled up.
I'm more worried about Hillary being a potential war president than her possible unwillingness to promise to do something impossible.
>>5839249
GBT's are for Sanders.
L's are for Clinton.
>>5840970
Hillary is literally a war criminal, that's how she's viewed throughout the world.
>>5839259
And that female president should be Mrs. Trump.
>>5839249
>Why in the fuck are so many of us voting for people like Hillary who was anti-gay marriage just a few years ago
What about Republicans who oppose it in 2016? Why do you give them a pass, but not Hillary who evolved on it?
>and wants to let in gung ho muslim shits who are desperate to behead us?
Not true at all. Do your research. Muslims are 0.6% of the population and most of the refugees coming over here are Christian.
>>5840981
>GBT's are for Sanders.
Gay men support Hillary
>New poll: Gay men overwhelming perfer Hillary Clinton over Bernie Sanders; perfer Trump over others
http://www.scruff.com/blog/2016/02/25/us-presidential-election-survey-scrufftistics/
Among the 10,510 Democrat-affiliated survey respondents, Hillary Clinton has 63% of the hypothetical vote, while 31% support Bernie Sanders. Worth noting is the divergence in the size of Clinton's lead between our survey (32 points) and national polls – http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary – conducted at the roughly the same time (~7 points). Also noteworthy: only 6% of respondents were undecided and only 0.6% favored "other" candidates, suggesting that SCRUFF's Democrats have relatively strong opinions about both candidates and a strong preference for the one they chose.
>>5839249
Going to vote Trump.
I like Bernie as a person and would love to smoke weed with him, but I would not want him trying to dictate how I live my life and conduct my business.
Hillary is probably the worst thing we could do at this point. A criminal who knows that she is above the law is not someone I could support, not even to wait tables.
Trump certainly has some bad to him but unfortunately politics is a trade off and I would rather deal with his failings and get what good I think he can do.
At the end of the day the president should not be this god damned important, but we have fucked our system so much.
>>5841552
conduct your business, ok, but live your life? lmao. bernie is the most socially liberal candidate left my friend
>>5841565
I say live my life because my work is my life. If you mess with work you mess with my life in general. I agree though Bernie is mostly great on social libertarianism like I said I like the guy I wish he was not into the socialist ideals otherwise I would vote for him. I don't hate him though and I can understand where he is coming form and that he is genuine. I can respect that and he is a breath of fresh air in the usual political quagmire.
>>5841005
>Hillary is literally a war crimina
Why?
>>5841506
>What about Republicans who oppose it in 2016?
I love it how nobody seems to answer this question who are mad about Hillary evolving on gay marriage.
>>5841756
There are tons of these situations through out politics this is nothing special.
>>5841769
It pisses me the fuck off so much
>HILLARY AND OBAMA WHY DIDN'T YOU SUPPORT GAY MARRIAGE BACK IN THE 1960S OR SOONER?
>Oh Republicans, who cares what their positions is on gay marriage or gay rights.
>>5839259
everyone knows women in politics does not work
just like Dilma (Brazil) and Angela Merkel (Germany(
>>5841810
ok, gay marriage is something I really don't give 2 fucks about so I guess that is why I don't what these slimy politicucks think about it.
>>5839249
Because she can attract female conservative votes, Bernie can't.
I want at least a slightly liberal president that will fight discrimination, Bernie and Hillary will both serve that purpose and Hillary has a better chance to win the final election.
>>5841854
>fighting discrimination
>lives in the first world.
>Race and sex baiter is actually fighting discrimination
You don't know what you are talking about, you don't know what discrimination is.
>>5841877
>Implying the first world is free of discrimination
Or (worse) are you implying "white people are being oppressed?"
>>5841854
Do you think Hillary will pick Sanders as a VP pick?
>>5841854
This.
It is completely unacceptable that in 2016 women earn 77 cents to every man's dollar for the same work.
>>5841914
>It is completely unacceptable that in 2016 women earn 77 cents to every man's dollar for the same work.
How do we enforce this? Like why is this allowed? Can't just just go to corporations and force them to pay their fair share to their female employees?
>>5841920
Some ideas that would work, no idea if anyone will do these:
Mandatory or tax incentives for running "Managing your internal bias" courses for hiring managers. This is a good solution because income gaps exist not only between M and F but also between which college you went to, which state you grew up in, race of course, the list goes on.
Increase in government funding for education programs that target women or other groups.
Government funded PSAs for women to demand more in the workforce, maybe in the form of TV commercials, etc. Something like smokey the bear.
>>5841942
>Mandatory or tax incentives for running "Managing your internal bias" courses for hiring managers. This is a good solution because income gaps exist not only between M and F but also between which college you went to, which state you grew up in, race of course, the list goes on.
They already do that in the UK, and some other European countries. It doesn't work. Without any sort of repercussions for ignoring the lessons and continuing to do that stuff anyway, the courses are nothing more then circlejerking. Very expensive circlejerking. About all it does is it teaches managers to lie, and naive idiots to believe them for a year or two, until the proof comes out.
>Increase in government funding for education programs that target women or other groups.
That doesn't work either. People divert or outright steal those funds at every point before they reach their recipients, because they can get away with it because they're "just women/minorities." The teachers don't teach as hard because "they're just women/minorities." The women/minorities don't study any harder, and their lessons don't translate to better performance in the workplace, because nobody is going to give it their A game when they're being ripped off. Your promises to reward someone mean nothing to them when you're in the middle of robbing them.
>Government funded PSAs for women to demand more in the workforce, maybe in the form of TV commercials, etc. Something like smokey the bear.
That doesn't do anything, because without any repercussions for ignoring those messages, they just serve as a useless circlejerk. A very expensive circlejerk.
I was joking you dips. Anyone with half a brain knows the "wage gap" is a myth
>>5841991
Fair enough, though society is different enough in the US and the EU that it's not a fair comparison.
>Funds diverted from education programs
The fact that funds are generally limited (usually you have to submit a grant proposal to get money, and then it's still a coin flip whether or not you get the money) should be a deterrant for programs that do nothing. Usually you need to put together a good case that you have spent the money well in the past to get a grant continued, etc. There will always be some fraction of fraud, but it is manageable as long as we don't make the pool of grants too large.
In terms of increasing awareness with PSAs and funding internal bias courses, sure those probably don't work very well. The company has to _want_ to do the courses, and for the latter, the economic situation (i.e. unemployment) needs to be good enough so that women don't feel scared of demanding something.
So instead, we have consumer run audits like the Better Business Bureau that should be able to track things like income gap on a per-company basis. I think this works pretty well, a BBB rating looks good to consumers and might get you a few more sales.
>>5841914
Are you retarded? Women earn the exact same amount of money per hour as their male counter parts for the same work. It's literally been the law for over half a century now.
>>5841892
I don't know much about US politics (being an EU citizen), but I'd say Sanders' more obvious role would be in campaigning further even if he doesn't become the Democratic Party's nominee.
Simply put: his goal can also be accomplished by strategically ensuring that the right people get voted into other government positions than just President. Heck, this'd likely be more effective. It might also be possible to promote a whole party based on this (although past attempts make this seem rather unlikely, given the US political system is intensely geared towards ensuring there are only two political parties: the stupid party and the evil party).
However, this might require a significant amount of funds to keep up... I wonder what'll happen. Maybe Sanders will use a similar structure to the pirate parties (low cost, high spread, many volunteers that do comparatively little).
As for the question of Sanders or Clinton winning against any Republican candidate: they've both got rather good chances, although most polls right now seem to indicate Sanders has better chances against Trump than Clinton does.
>>5842134
>being an EU citizen
The EU isn't a country.
>>5839249
Probably because you have autism. Normal people like to maintain the status-quo.
>>5839259
Google "Margaret Thatcher"
>>5841829
>sample size of 2
>>5842823
Leave it to an Ameriburger to fuck that up.
>>5842902
>prime minister
>president
>>5841810
>>Oh Republicans, who cares what their positions is on gay marriage or gay rights.
Fuck gay rights and fuck violating the constitution to get married.
The Democrats will see us executed by being thrown off the roofs of buildings if they get their way.
>>5839259
But she's obviously a transman. Of all the places for people to misgender somebody--I wouldn't expect to be seeing it HERE. Please keep that crap in /pol/ et al.
Rutherford B. Hayes was our first woman (trans obviously) president. And last, admittedly. Sure it'd be nice on some level to have another, but wouldn't it be nicer to have a good male president now (i.e., Sanders), and then a good female president sometime later?
>>5842907
No, she's got a point. We've had dozens of female leaders in modern history and around one good one.
>>5841810
It's just trolls who hate Hillary and post stupid memes or they're actually braindead.
>>5842917
Exactly it will be even worse.
>>5842945
>or
Because I don't want to vote republican and have everything that the lgbt community has won fights over be over thrown. I will not vote republican AT ALL. I don't care who at this point gets the democratic nomination, as long as they can win the general election
>>5843265
>I don't care who at this point gets the democratic nomination, as long as they can win the general election
This is kinda how I feel. I feel like they should just have a unity ticket of Hillary / Sanders so both sides can feel like they won.
I really just want a Democrat in the white house.
>>5842928
>The Democrats will see us executed by being thrown off the roofs of buildings if they get their way.
You are fucking stupider than a sack of shit. Where in the Democratic platform do they support throwing gay people off building?
Oh wait that's the REPUBLICAN platform.
>>5843315
it's naive to think at least sanders supporters will be satisfied with a sanders vp ticket
Hillary is more well known than Bernie, is better connected with the establishment, and has the mainstream media on her side.
Were that not the case, more people would be for Sanders, I think.
>>5841582
You are not your job title, etc.
Most of this stuff produces services that everybody of all income strata can use. I can understand being against handouts that go exclusively to the poor, but there's a difference between that and Bernie's proposals that benefit everyone.
Basically there's some people out there in the world who feel they haven't succeeded unless other people have failed, and they're okay with a system that leaves people at risk but costs as much (more?) than a socialized system. Because they feel accomplishment from getting something other people don't have, even if it's financially an irresponsible use of money.
Even Trump sees some of this for the bullshit that it is. He's for government regulation of drug prices for gods sake.
I vote Republican.
So I can carry a gun and shoot the Rapefugees.
Guys when are we gonna work on overthrowing American capitalism
>>5843461
>So I can carry a gun and shoot the Rapefugees.
And if you actually did that, your racist ass will be in jail faggot.
>>5843472
>Guys when are we gonna work on overthrowing American capitalism
Americans are to stupid. They would rather vote for KKK meme candidate who likes saying stupid shit.
I would love for a second October Revolution.
>>5843352
>He's for government regulation of drug prices for gods sake.
Trump's a big government RINO.
No real conservative will vote for him.
>>5839259
>Voting for someone because of her gender and not her policys.
You're what's wrong with the world.
>>5843480
The rich have every means to manipulate the masses who are very easy to convince that they need to blame their troubles on a simple, easily communicated villain like foreigners or the poor
>>5843491
Enjoy the day Christians knock on your door.
>>5843495
>The rich have every means to manipulate the masses who are very easy to convince that they need to blame their troubles on a simple, easily communicated villain like foreigners or the poor
Fuck American media.
>>5843322
When did 4chan become reddit-tier leftists?
>>5843505
>When did 4chan become reddit-tier leftists?
We've always been. Just look at 4chan when GWB was president.
>>5839249
So you'd rather vote for Trump, who's anti-gay marriage now?
I seriously don't get this.
>>5841519
how do you get cucked this badly while being into dick
it boggles the mind
>>5843480
>Trump
>I'm voting Republican
Didn't he back Hillary in 2008?
>>5843502
Watch The Big Short if you want to be convinced that American capitalism is a dead end and we're quickly reaching the end of our rope
>>5843507
Yeah I remember us all cheering for Obama to get elected /s
>>5843516
oh hey it's like you're recognizing the fact that Donald Trump has contradicted literally every stance of his
>>5843502
>Enjoy the day Christians knock on your door.
Are you literally retarded?
>>5843534
>Are you literally retarded?
Are you? Hitler was a CHRISTIAN and so is Trump and Cruz. Both will set up concentration camps and throw all of us in them.
>>5843520
>Yeah I remember us all cheering for Obama to get elected /s
Obama's been one of the greatest presidents ever.
>>5843542
Maybe when Islam subdues Christianity & the Jeezos have to pony up to prove themselves.
They don't have the balls to kill gays yet.
>>5840981
>gay men pretending Clinton hasn't been made into a gay icon since the 90s
Lesbians and Trannies are more likely to vote Sanders than the fucking gays. We should seriously get rid of the lot of you in LGBT leadership positions.
>>5843555
>They don't have the balls to kill gays yet.
Cruz has the endorsement of a pastor who literally said "kill all gays."
>>5843520
You don't remember a thing because you're some redpiller faggot who came from reddit when they got tired of you.
>>5843561
His kill count will always be zero. He *might* be gay, who knows what his deal is.
>>5843547
lol...no
>>5843589
>literal facts in your face
Hehe... no way I don't believe it
>>5843542
>Trump and Cruz
>will set up concentration camps and throw all of us in them.
average_Dem_voter.jpg
>>5843559
Of course women make worse choices, that doesn't justify you guys voting further left than straights.
>>5843604
>test-addled sluts backpedaling
>>5843474
Hell no. I live in the South. Where white women can shoot brown men and no one questions.
Hillary knows what it's like to have her man cheat on her with a female acquaintance. There's a lot to relate to there.
It also explains why bisexuals overwhelmingly choose Bernie over her.
>>5843629
>brown
Nah, mostly black, really.
I mean, maybe I'm wrong. But I don't think even Arabs have that kind of treatment. Political animosity, yeah, but that's kinda different.
>>5843597
>expands unconstitutional government spying
>increases involvement in middle eastern conflicts
>oversees a shitty half-measure healthcare plan that makes people afraid of "socialized medicine"
>success
>>5843547
You wanna start trading info graphics?
>>5841756
>comparing a person to an entire party
Top lel.
Voting for anyone but Trump is voting against your own interests, as those Syrian rapefugees and Mexican illegals surely won't be gay friendly.
>>5843668
He also oversaw the national legalization of same sex marriage, a pretty huge turnaround in marijuana laws, snuck some actual good policies into the Affordable Care Act (which I agree is half-assed - I don't like the whole appeasement thing, though in practice it seems ~ok~ but ethically unsound), oversaw bin Laden's death (even if you don't like it and the methods used to do it, it's still probably the greatest practical military "success" of the past 20 or so years), and took the heat for a recession he inherited and ended.
So it could, you know, certainly be argued.
The negatives are huge (mostly the continued expansion of spying, blowing all sorts of shit up in the middle east, lots of other police state shit complimented by Gitmo's continued open doors and closed windows), but at the very least what he actually accomplished would have seemed above average at the time of his election.
>>5843707
Oh, and the TPP. TPP passed, right?
That was fucking terrible, too.
>>5843547
>Dow Jones going up is Obama's doing
Wew lad I bet Obama is also responsible for the sun rising tomorrow.
>>5843714
>Capitalist medicine
Private insurance providers. You can just not get insurance if you don't want to or can't afford it.
>Socialist medicine
Everyone gets treated for "free" (meaning the federal/state budget) but you MUST pay higher taxes.
>Osambocare
Overpriced private insurers and you MUST get one or pay a fine.
Obamacare is literally the worst fucking thing possible.
>>5843722
Everything bad or good is Obama's doing. I thought we'd established this by now. It's the difference between a sarcastic and ironically earnest "Thanks!"
>>5843714
>national legalization of same sex marriage
>pretty huge turnaround in marijuana laws
He had nothing to do with either.
>bin Laden's death...still probably the greatest practical military "success" of the past 20 or so years
That's hardly something to be bragging about either way.
>>5843714
>He also oversaw the overturning of the Constitution for the sake of same sex marriage
FTFY
>>5843656
Why would male or female bisexuals dislike her for that?
>>5843656
Yeah I bet Bernie supporters can relate to being cheated on considering they're literal cuckolds.
>>5843744
They must realize that a regime with a strong gay base will be less likely to tolerate their shit.
>>5843732
>You can just not get insurance if you don't want to or can't afford it.
That's a kind way of phrasing it -
"Oh fuck, I still can't afford insurance. Good thing I don't have to get any if I can't afford it! Thank you, Capitalist medicine!"
>Overpriced private insurers and you MUST get one or pay a fine.
I'm aware of the drawbacks, but this is an oversimplification. Subsidies cut the prices down considerably, and if you still can't afford it you may be exempt. Also, they raised the age at which a parents' plan has to be available to their children to 26. And the passage of this corporatist shit now could eventually lead to an actual public option in years to come.
>>5843782
I see, you're a National Socialist. What brings you to LGBT? Not looking to murder more of us I hope!
>>5843734
>He had nothing to do with either.
He called for the repeal of DOMA and opposed Prop. 8. At the very least, his support for same sex marriage was unprecedented for a president.
Will give you marijuana, though.
>That's hardly something to be bragging about either way.
If Obama had been a Republican, it would have been - though it may have been an "Only Nixon could go to China" sort of deal. Maybe you and I may not think hunting down and shooting people is that great, but from the perspectives of people who do, it seems it would be a victory.
>>5843795
>I see, you're a National Socialist
Because I described aspects of the ACA and its potential and then used "corporatist shit" pejoratively to describe what was *wrong* with it?
I suppose it's never opposite day on 4chins.
Another exchange pleasantly devoid of awkward grasping at straws.
>>5843816
It was in blatant violation of international law. It's just sad that the proudest U.S. military achievement in recent history was still a crime.
>>5839259
Britbong here, don't try that it didn't go so well here
>>5843782
>not able to afford healthcare
vs
>not able to afford healthcare AND having to pay a fine
Guess which one is better.
>>5843840
>It was in blatant violation of international law.
But of course!
>It's just sad that the proudest U.S. military achievement in recent history was still a crime.
After decades of inelegant hostile takeovers and messily beating everything in sight but the bush, it just seems efficient in light of the country that did it.
>>5843847
>not able to afford healthcare
>vs
>not able to afford healthcare AND having to pay a fine
>Guess which one is better.
Well, you still seem to have left out some factors. The cost paid by the patient in the latter is not the same as in the former - and if it's still too high, they may not be subject to the mandate (fine) at all.
>>5843829
what a surprise, a cishet white man arguing against equal rights for minorities!
>>5843960
Shit bait.
>>5844000
how can i do better next time sempai. the exclamation point and cishet were probably a bit too strong, but i couldn't resist
>>5842931
>Rutherford B. Hayes was our first woman (trans obviously) president.
what
>>5843708
>Mexican illegals surely won't be gay friendly.
I'm a gay Mexican you stupid anglo fuck.
>>5841738
>Libya
>Syria
Are you fucking trolling me right now, asking "why"?
>>5844681
I don't give a shit. Gay Mexicans are so few you'll have better chance finding an unicorn.
>>5840970
The president can bar anyone he wants from entering the US for any reason. Foreigners are not protected by the Constitution.
Suck it.
>>5844681
Why can't you stay in your country? Why can't you come here legally. When you idiots come across that border you are breaking the laws of the land you are entering. How can we expect you to follow our other laws if you break them from the outset?
>>5841854
>conservative women
>voting for Shillary
You MUST be joking, holy shit.
>>5846589
lol, yeah this is not happening I have friends that are all about the Bern and if /when he loses they are voting Trump if that says anything about that snake Hillary.
>>5839259
>Because it's long past time for there to be a woman president.
So now being a woman is more important than somebody who can really better women's condition?
I argue we should learn from conservatives.
Conservatives have a very traditionalist agenda:
>No abortion
>Traditional marriage
>Christian values
>White supremacy
>Patriarchy
But when you look more carefully at their leaders, it turns out they are just a bunch of repressed homosexuals, adulterers, etc.
So the question is:
>why do bigots vote people who do not represent them individually?
Answer is: because these people, although they do not match the bigots' ideal, are the ones that could best advance the bigots' cause.
This is very clever.
Instead, libertarians are always concerned about appearance, not about the essence.
So, basically, what you're saying is that you prefer:
>Female leader
>Unable to promote feminist cause
Rather than:
>Male leader
>Very capable of promoting women's rights
You want a female on the wallpapers and manifestos, but you don't want women and LGBT people to really have better times. You want a souvenir... a cosmetic victory, rather than the real one.
It's like including blacks in institutions qua blacks.
I am still an advocate of inclusive policies, but I also argue that including is not sufficient if we do not address the root of the problem: that is, blacks have less access to good education, safe environment, etc... so even if you include some of them, they are overall less likely to have the skills needed for the job.
Same goes for Hillary: you prefer a women on the throne just because. You don't care about her being a puppet of the patriarchy: for you, what matters, is to have woman in that place. You don't care if she's a warmongering psychopath.
You just care for appearance.
>>5846604
Why would Bernie supporters vote for a right wing fascist?
>>5846644
First know what fascist means before you use that term. Bernie is a fascist it is just an italian term for a socialist party just like NAZI.
Second they reason it as he is still anti-establishment, good on guns, and is not bought. To them I guess those things are important. I am a fag for Daddy but I like Bernie even though I don't agree with everything he is for.
>>5846662
Fascism is right wing, it has some similarities to national socialism. It's just about drawing a clear separation between rich (good), and poor (bad) people, and keeping that structure through tyranny against the poor.
>>5846684
It is authoritatrian socialism. Which is the only way socialism works in the first place. There is no difference between socialist govts accept for the presentation.
>>5843542
implying that is a bad thing
>>5846662
>Bernie is a fascist it is just an italian term for a socialist party just like NAZI.
>>5846684
>Fascism is right wing, it has some similarities to national socialism.
Friendly reminder that:
>Italian Fascism was not against monarchy
>Italian Fascists emerged from the 20s in a Gang of New York kinda environment, where they would go around to beat up workers who revolted
>Italian Fascism does NOT have an international dimension
>Italian Fascism enlisted those beating squads
>Italian Fascism had an authoritarian view of how the State should be managed
>Yet, Italian Fascism was still friendly with oligopolies and industrial investments, so their view of "national industry" was more the idea of "let's boost privately owned local industries and be protectionist".
>Only later, Italian fascism embraced full-fledged racism, under pressure from Nazi allies
Instead, National Socialism (Nazism) is different because:
>No monarchy
>Elected leader (Mussolini was never elected)
>Hitler advertised himself as the defender of German ethnic workers who found themselves on the wrong side of the border after the Treaty of Versailles
>However, when he seized power, he became untrue to the socialist basis and started getting support from middle class rather than proletarians
Just to add a couple of hints:
>Communism is meant to be international (except for Stalin's "socialism on one state")
>Communism does not have racial theory
>Communism has a specific approach to private property (either abolitionist or promoter of just small private property)
>Communism has a particular perspective on the nationalization of industrial hubs, which are meant to be ruled by politically appointed supervisors.
>>5842907
Anon is right, the whole
>women are over-emotional and didn't evolve to be the ones who serve the leadership role
has valid truth to it. Female thinking is largely emotional and geared towards creating short-term solutions that do little beyond providing a sense of emotional security, which is fine but that's what their role within the family unit is supposed to be. For this same purpose females in leadership often overlook the long-term repercussions of their actions, like angela merkel or the hoards of SJW women waiting at the train station holding "refugees welcome" signs.
Modern "liberalism" is classic leftist ideology, through feminism it has thrust women into the role of now having a very active role in politics, something they have not developed for nor are prepared for. In their vulnerable new role, leftists have taken advantage of them by appealing to these female sensibilities, such as emotional contentment, go along to get along, etc. They've gone a step further to corrupt the minds of many women into thinking that they MUST "get back" at men as it were, to view men as the oppressors and the ideal to for them to strive for to make things "equal" and they shun any notion of there being substantial differences between the sexes beyond mere physiology.
Letting women have political power hasn't been the primary factor to the social decay of the west, but it has been a major weapon used by the left to bring it about.
>>5839249
The real question is why isn't everyone voting for Vermin Supreme?
>>5847111
Gotta keep the pony supply stable. Vermin will crash the market the moment he steps into office
But at least she is better then Trumpet so ya!
>>5843714
>recession he inherited
>inherited
You mean the one he campaigned on and spent hundreds of millions of dollars trying to convince us to give him a chance to fix it? That recession?
>>5846684
>fascism is about suppressing the evil poor
Is this Common Core education at work?
>>5846644
>Trump is a fascist
Go back to buzzfeed
literally everyone running will worsen the country
Bernie wants to tax and spend literally trillions
Trump has zero coherent platform or ideas (nor can he debate or perform a political speech in a coherent manner), is literally a walking punchline
while I suppose Hillary Clinton at least has the "mantra" of having a practical semi-moderate platform
Kasich is the only reasonable choice.
>>5847295
Are you suggesting he hasn't? During his second term alone, the raw number of jobs has increased 2%, the highest (it's actually higher under the figures of this past year which aren't accounted under the statistics I'm looking at) increase since the 90s, which was itself a historic decade of job growth. And every year has had positive, healthy GDP growth >3% which indicates a healthy economy.
Then again, you're most likely a bitter partisan.
>>5839259
i absolutely LOVE this meme
