How do kids know they're gay? They don't know shit ţbh fåm
>>5839502
I was treated different by other boys. I was very soft/effeminate/sensitive and other boys in my neighborhood picked up on it and didn't invite me to birthday parties or ever wanted to hang out with me. Many teased me at school. I spent most of my days watching TV or alone in my room. This created the "special snowflake" syndrome in me and made me feel like I was different than everyone else. It also made me want to try harder to earn the affection of other males which turned into desire/lust to have sex with them once puberty started.
>>5839502
gay sex is an action, not a personality trait
some cis guys will try to prove they are straight to prove they are human (because obviously gay sex makes you inhuman according to the evil jew god book aka bible)
of course some people are born with a preference for gay sex
>>5839975
Pre-natal estrogens effecting sexuality and personality, perhaps?
I wasn't soft/effeminate, but I was an edgy, sensitive little kid who was generally considered weird, but funny. Spent my time alone and playing Vidya, eventually developing the snowflake struggle too.
The desire/romance was already there pre-puberty and then it developed into full-blown faggotry at 13.
>>5840013
I sometimes think if one person treated me or let me know my worth as a young boy...or if my dad was around to teach me to play sports...I could of turned out straight perhaps.
>>5840090
There's no evidence that you can raise someone to be straight or gay. Your natural effeminacy and latent homosexuality just interacted with your life the same as every other aspect of you did, and you assigned those things meaning they didn't really have.
A gay kid will want the affection of other boys, and will grow to desire them. The social events of your childhood are circumstantial to this development.
They just do.
I was i guess a little tomboyish, but my affections for other girls was strong, i felt like it wasnt enough to just be friends with a girl that i liked, i knew i was lesbian when she fell over and i held her in my arms before the teachers came running, her hurt became mine and i wanted to protect her from everything that could bring her pain
>>5840090
The only thing that would change would be that you'd be a different kind of gay. A bear or something idk. I'm a jock/geek hybrid and my sexuality doesn't have anything to do with my personality.
The reason people think all gays are fem is because fem gays are the obvious ones. In reality there are LOADS of gays and only a fraction of them are femmy and sissy or whatever.
>>5839502
I was into boys and girls as a child and didn't see why not everyone was the same. I wanted to hug and kiss them both. Nowadays it's pretty much the same except I get jiggy with it too.
Remember, you still have crushes pre-puberty.
>>5839502
I knew I was bi since I was 14, when I realised I was in love with a female classmate of mine even though I've always liked boys. We dated for a while, kissed and stuff, those were happy times. Some time after we broke up, I fell in love with a guy and dated him for a while. Then there were some other girls and guys, and every time the feelings were mostly the same - sometimes stronger, sometimes weaker. I don't think anything but bisexuality could apply to me after all of that.
I remember fantasizing to the thought of my mom in a sexual way when I was 5 or maybe 4. She was always so cold, violent and abused of everyone in the family physically and psychologically. Mom disappeared and started living in a house full of dudes at age 8. Nowadays I find myself craving for female attention, approval and affection. It's just my theory but meh
>>5839502
If "kid" means pre-puberty, then yeah, I don't know what to say.
Puberty and post, though, kids learn what fap material works for them, and that's a pretty clear indication of sexual preference.
How do kids know they're straight? They don't know shit desu senpai
>been around straight kids all his life
>none of them knew shit
>thinks that means gay kids don't know shit
I want to know what changed in me, because up until 11 - 12 years old i liked girls quite a lot, i remember being especially in love with one girl from first grade to sixth, even at middle school i still liked girls even had a girlfriend, but also attraction for boys starting to happen at this time, then for highschool and up untill now (college) 100% only attracted to boys.
>>5841939
You got good at posting on the internet, that's what happened.
>>5841993
im a regular shitposter tho
>>5842029
That's what the memes call "a good poster."
>>5841939
me too, senpai
when I was young, I was totally in to girls and whatnot
now that I'm older, I am completely and entirely for guys and tasty cocks
I guess being gay is developing process, as you get more and more comfortable with your own sexuality, it starts to exhibit itself more and more
idk, not a psychologist, just a closet fag speaking from experience desu
>>5839502
I always had crushes on girls, I realized I was gay when I was 10-11. There is nothing more to it.
>>5840013
>I wasn't soft/effeminate, but I was an edgy, sensitive little kid who was generally considered weird, but funny.
>The desire/romance was already there pre-puberty and then it developed into full-blown faggotry at 13.
omg this is so me! I was 18 until I accepted it, though.
Can we please stop doing the same sorts of things that our parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, teachers and various other authority figures did that.made us all so fucked up? Kids do know shit. They know that having something means taking it from something else. They know what they like and what they dont. They know themselves. But just like you did, they get confused by a bunch of assholes telling them all their lives they dont ACTUALLY know who they are or what they like. So end the cycle now. Let them grow and learn to love themselves as they are, and help them when they get hurt.
>>5840175
>There's no evidence that you can raise someone to be straight or gay.
But there are factors in the upbringing that have a statistical significant correlation.
>>5845689
What are the factors out of curiosity?
>>5844668
pls kill yourself hippie.
>They know that having something means taking it from something else
this is false
>They know what they like and what they dont.
plenty of kids would rather eat sugary crap than healthy food, it's not healthy for them to do this. Just b/c they like something doesn't mean it's beneficial
>They know themselves.
no they don't. even 18yr olds don't have fully developed brains to to comprehend the eventual consequences of their immediate actions
believe it or not, children do better with guidance and structure than without. your "let them be left to their own devices" attitude would do more harm than good
>>5841939
Literally this but I'm a girl and became full lesbo around the time I turned 17. Before that i spent my life bi, preferring guys when I was younger but realizing I definitely liked girls a lot too when I was around 13
Internet needs to be denied to children lest they become like the abomination in OP's pic related.
>>5841049
>a different kind of gay. A bear or something idk. I'm a jock/geek hybrid
Are you a faggot or a Pokemon? Jesus Christ.
I knew I was bi when I first saw gay porn (12). Don't think I'd really ever thought about it before then (internalised heteronormativity), but I started watching gay porn pretty soon after I started straight porn.
But I mean looking back at videos of me as a kid I seem pretty queer (dressing in ballet clothes in nursery, sounding camp etc)
>>5839502
I mean I remember having crushes on other boys when I was like 5, and at that time Bruce Willis was like my ultimate crush.
I never gave it much thought ofc until I was 11-12 and I learnt what being gay meant and also could see how everyone seemed to think gay people were evil and sick in the head, so I tried to repress it but by the time I was 16 I said fuck it and kissed another guy from my school and I liked it.
So, really, I didn't knew I was gay because I didn't know what it meant to be gay, or that it wasn't something different. But the gayness was certainly there.
>>5846121
You know what? You didn't listen to your parents either. I'm not saying "let them run wild and do whatever they want" I'm saying "if theynwant to wear dresses, fine. If they like to kiss boys and identify as a boy, fine. If they want to do something that literally does no harm, why does it matter what you think about it?"
How is it false that you need to take something from someone else in order to have something for yourself? Everything you eat comes from something that died. their life was taken for your consumption. Your house was made by taking the lives of trees. Your clothes were made by taking the lives of plants and animals.
And you forget the most important thing, dipshit. People make mistakes.
That's how they learn.
>>5839502
I liked other girls as a kid, then I found out what gay was and did the math
>>5856826
algebra or calculus?
It took me quite awhile. I guess I'm considered conventionally attractive because I remember girls actually approaching me, and I "dated" a lot of girls but now I realize that it was just me wanting friends and obviously if people are nice to me I think positively of them but they're on a totally different spectrum
Then in college I had my first real boy crush and I started piecing it together
