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loose gaff >>5769311
i want to suck on franku's nipples.
I am the most attractive person here
>>5770683
seconded
>>5770683
With the kind of competition that posts in this thread you probably are.
how do i feminize this little face of mine, haaalp
>>5770674
does that pic recommend to cram your testicles into your legs?
>>5770694
no, you cram them in the canals
>>5770687
Korean jaw surgery
>>5770695
is there a better explanation?
>>5770694
don't take advice from autist like kayla
>>5770694
No. Grab your sack and shove it up your ass hole.
>>5770695
idk about you but my canals are 'above' my gt not on either side
>>5770687
hrt first then ffs.
>>5770701
so are mine, just jam them in there, tuck it back, pinch the front, and apply a band aide
>>5770711
Kill yourself
>>5770680
Might as well just end it, darling.
>>5770713
Fuck off rawr. You will never be as beautiful as kayla you ratty piece of shit.
>>5769749
>tfw you don't look like this
>>5770716
But rawr passes and kayla looks like complete shit
>>5770716
lmao
>>5770711
kill yourself TROLL
good morning girls! how goes life? r things going well?
>>5770674
my benis is not that pig
>>5770687
HRT, Skincare, Laser
>>5770724
>>5770724
year old photo is a year old
>>5770727
Things are going okay. How about yourself?
>>5770725
Are you retarded or just autistic?
>>5770733
It's a balding man. How am I retarded for not thinking they pass when this is how they look?
>>5770734
Are you not aware of the passage of time?
>>5770732
glad to hear it. things are so so the only thing I can complain about is still being bedridden with illness
>>5770736
The picture was posted recently.
>>5770739
Yeah you're retarded, just stop posting sir.
>>5770740
Fuck off rawr. Nobody's buying your sbullshit SRS story. There's no way a therapist would approve you when you look like that.
>>5770731
so?
>>5770742
Why so upset anon?
>>5770743
I look more fem than that now obviously
>>5770747
no you don't
LEL
>>>/b/670481003
>>5770758
damn dude did you get sand in your vagina?
>>5770753
>untucked gt
>>5770738
What are you sick with :c
>>5770765
sickle cell anemia
this is me
>>5770765
some kind of stomach virus ;_;
>>5770762
you sound more like Lily every day
>Totally cis
>Enjoy tucking, makeup, shaving everything below the waist, wearing panties, crossdressing (even though don't pass upper body)
>Get a sudden wave of these feelings after roughly 4-5 months of being average masc
I-i'm not trans am I
>>5770779
Jormy use some deodorant
>>5770788
No you're not, but still about as trans as half the trips here
>dream about seeing old friends
>wake up in a panic
>Tfw you have a skull like this
Can I just kill myself?
>>5770798
Just get ffs
>>5770792
Which trips?
>>5770799
But I did and that's a female asian skull ;-;
>when I was pre-op, pre/non-op trans porn did nothing for me (neither did post-op)
>become post-op
>come across pre/non-op trans porn
>get turned on
What is this.
>>5770786
rip. I had the same a few weeks back and it was hell.
Did anyone save the tier lists?
>>5770798
at least your skull doesn't look like this
>>5770805
it's called regret
>>5770792
So do I indulge these feelings or repress them and go masc?
>>5770811
that depends on whether or not you see yourself as just being comfortable crossdressing in private, or if you really think you want to present as female in public.
>>5770810
Naw man, it's not regret, like I'm not turned on at the thought of having a penis. That would be hell, having a vagina, even if fake has made me feel amazingly happy. It's more like getting turned on at the idea of having my neo-vag penetrated by another girl. :^)
>>5770810
But I have the same jaw
>>5770817
by tranny standards that's normal
>Try squats for the first time, one set of fifteen reps with 2 x 5kg dumbbells
>Feel very little stress in my ass, only in the muscles in my thigh and at the back of my leg, below my ass
What do?
>>5770821
lift heavier. make arvebrink proud!
>>5770817
of all the people that gets a vagina is a transbian
why god
>>5770827
Post here long enough and eventually everyone becomes transbian.
>>5770811
you can become like Kayla if you like
>>5770759
I got turned into the slut, and my lez girl is the class rep, also I'm her captive
>>5770818
we are all part of man jaw club
>>5770831
hmm... I dunno, I like guys and dating another transgirl sounds like a horrible idea because it always ends in drama
if anything, I noticed people with cis gfs tend to have the most stable relationships
>>5770831
Ive never become a transbian
Speaking of tucking, what do you all do for bikinis? I want to go to a water park but I'm afraid with all of the slides and stuff that it will make slippage easy. >_<
>>5770845
you didn't need to become one because you were born one
>>5770835
But I had ffs and still have a man jaw
>>5770849
>neufreunde
>>5770853
>22lbs
HAHAHA
A BAR WEIGHS MORE THAN THAT
>talking about lifting weights
its almost like you don't want to pass
>>5770850
Who was your surgeon?
>>5770835
Actually honestly you got that Olivia Wilde manjaw
I hate trannies but you look fine girl
>>5770835
Why can't I look that good after FFS? Destined to look like an weird looking man forever.
>>5770859
I'm actually just a femboy who wants a nicer ass than I already have.
Femgen somehow has more trans and talk of hrt than mtfg does, so I thought I'd ask here instead.
>>5770850
BDD
D
D
>>5770864
What did you look like after your first set?
>>5770864
oh my god why did you do ffs a second time, your eye is sagging
>>5770827
Wow rude. I'm not a transbian. I'm demisexual.
>>5770864
Omg Hi Brad! Your picture was the one that convinced me to go to Bart Van De Ven. Big fan!
>>5770864
I'm slowly starting to think there should be gatekeeping for ffs.
>>5770871
dont listen to kayla. you look fine.
>>5770864
I think you looked good after your first ffs, makes me more confident in going to Bart one day.
Also
EYEBROWS
Y
E
B
R
O
W
S
>>5770876
over and above general gatekeeping for cosmetic surgery?
Still
Lives
At
Parents
Single
Immature
Male
Over-expectant
Narcissistic
^these are the acronyms cosmetic surgeons use, like a checklist, when screening potential clients.
>>5770865
I used to squat my body weight
I wouldn't recommend that unless you have literal thunder thighs
If you're new to squats, get a full sized bar, put a couple of 20 plates on and look up the proper form
>>5770879
so angles are the definitive factor in passing here
>>5770880
Yea but what do I look like now? Just tell me.
>>5770879
This was the pic
>Do you not think I look like a weird man now
Well do your eyebrows that for starter. I can't pluck mine cus only two weeks after FFS but because of them I look like a dude.
>>5770879
What did you look like after the first time though? You look like an ugly girl now.
>>5770886
That's not a particularly good picture because of your eyes, but desu, I would never clock.
>>5770886
my honest opinion and since i'm new i haven't seen your earlier pics, but i agree with them. the way your eyebrows frame your face is why you think you look weird. sort them out and you're fine by any actual realistic cis standards.
>>5770890
Wow that's really good
>>5770892
>You look like an ugly girl now.
Well that's fine by me if that's what I look like.
>>5770894
Agree with who/what?
>>5770890
Well I'm smiling and shit, everyone looks better when smiling or making some shit goofy face.
>>5770861
Bart
>>5770839
Is doing that even possible? Wearing fem legs but masc upper?
>>5770886
Everyone looks weird in that pose. Please don't base your self esteem on photos - we all are probably very shitty at taking photos.
ill never afford ffs
>>5770903
B A N G S
A
N
G
S
>>5770898
You still look good and like a girl, I just think you looked better before getting second ffs but that's just my opinion.
>>5770898
Hey Chad.
>>5770862
>jawline
Gross
>>5770882
Brad Angie and Feefs all made it through despite meeting over half the checklist
>>5770898
And here you seriously look lovely. And look at your hairline. Have you seen mine? It's a disaster.
>>5770911
Hi Angie
>>5770906
Too shitty hairline for bangs. And I like my forehead it makes my chin smaller...
>>5770912
What checklist?
>>5770915
Hi
How'd you know it was me?
>>5770914
Come the fuck on Chad you look fine. Snap out of that crazy of yours.
Have you solved the issue of personal hygiene?
>>5770918
I used to know a girl in uni with a similar forehead to you and I don't think it looks off/out of place or masculine on you.
I actually have a very small forehead and it makes me feel like it makes my jaw/chin look a lot bigger than it is.
>>5770921
But I'm suing mine :)
I dont want to wake up today... I just want to shitpost
Does anyone here who gets ffs not end up being a fucked up weirdo? Brad, Angie, FFS-anon and now Maddie are all destined to be insane surgery addicts.
>>5770931
Madds is getting ffs?
>>5770931
>not wanting to get surgery to be try and be pretty
Well, FFS is hit and miss, for me it was a giant fucking miss and that's why I'm pissed. I'm having revision again this summer, probably for the last time. I could have it every year if I wanted but I think having more and more and more done will just fuck my face up so badly.
But really, I look totally shitty and fucked up and disgusting and manly as fuck and I'm so jealaous of ffs-anon because she looks so fucking good.
Jesus fucking christ I hate my pathetic and miserable life.
>>5770914
Well I'm going to him back to fix my chin/jaw/nose/implants. What did you do second time?
>>5770934
She has been talking about it lately, and so has Elanna.
>>5770931
whats wrong with being a surgery addict? Id get half a dozen if I had the money.
>>5770938
You looked perfect in the first set and now you look ugly but still female, going in for a third time is probably just going to ruin you.
>>5770938
Stop being such a crazy fuck-up Chad.
>Tuck, then wear leggings or short shorts
>Be masc everywhere else
Would this work
>>5770918
You look cis
>>5770929
first mistake, you already woke up.
>>5770929
>>5770947
I just want to look like a woman.
>>5770942
Why go for multiple rounds of ffs if you look less and less like a woman?
>>5770940
That money would be better spent on a therapist.
>>5770945
Have you never considered that I might be ugly because my liver is busted, I practically live off energy drinks, barely get enough sleep, my immune system is fucked etc. Not to bitch about this shit but I never really looked good in the first place. That old pic is just a good angle pretty much.
That being said *really* don't give a shit about whether I'm ugly or not, I just want to look female. That's all. That's literally all. Nothing else. Why gives a shit about ugly. I have gender dysphoria not ugly disphoria.
>>5770949
Yeah I fucking wish I did too.
>>5770955
Jesus christ you do already. Stop complaining and go live the dream of snagging qt straight boys.
>>5770963
You don't need FFS either. Everyone except Brad who wants FFS and actually gets it passed before they had it. Hence, why all ffs-getters here are insane surgery addicts.
>>5770938
>ffs was a miss
Iktf so much
>>5770964
You look female. Cis female. In the picture you said was shit. Just start looking after yourself and get a therapist Pronto
>>5770970
My face looks like shit and I want FFS
>>5770970
really? I got laughed at a while ago for being a tranny. and it definitely wasnt my voice, cause I didnt talk.
thats not passing.
Fuck I can stand watching her being so sad ;_;
>>5770938
>I could have it every year if I wanted
How are you so rich?
Do any black mtfs post here?
>>5770964
You should get your fucking life in order instead of perpetuating this crazy idea that cosmetic surgery is somehow going to magically turn you into a woman.
>>5770964
>I have gender dysphoria not ugly disphoria.
You had ffs a second time despite already looking female. You have BDD. Anime-dysphoria isn't a thing.
>>5770981
You're the pretty redhead in college, right? If you're that person I have literally no idea how anyone clocked you.
>>5770988
This meme is getting old
>>5770988
I actually do think she does as well.
>>5770970
Like, seriously. FFS is for disasters like Renee Richards and Jenner. Not for mild insecurities that every woman has.
>>5770970
That's why I'll go to a good plastic surgeon instead. Better results without the inflated "FFS" pricetag.
>>5770991
>Angie who thinks every mention of BDD is a direct accusation
You, too, have bdd.
>>5770986
my soul is pretty black, does that count?
p.s. I don't believe in souls.
>>5770997
Don't reply to me you stupid hon, you're literally posting from a mental institution so you're not exactly the poster child for mentally healthy surgery seekers.
>>5770998
We don't have bdd.
There's something called the golden ratio.
You should look it up sometime
Good morning mtfg.. I'm sore todayyy. At least I don't feel super dehydrated anymore.
>>5770990
my hair is a blend of red/brown and I am in college. so thats probably me.
pictures are all angles. most people can pass from the right angle anyway. I definitely dont irl. even a friend said that a few weeks ago.
https://unsee.
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>>5771005
idk, never checked.
>>5771005
You mean standards?
>>5771006
>There's something called the golden ratio.
Nobody gives a fuck about the golden ratio.
>>5771002
Pre, 3 days post. But I noticed he did some photographic angle/lens tricks to make me look more male on the left and more female on the right.
I had only forehead. Jaw/Chin/Nose will be next.
>>5771010
If you don't pass then I am literally a monster
>>5771002
>I don't personally think I look female
That's because you are insane Braddy. That money would have been better spent on finding a therapist you like and trust.
There will be no thirds a charm thing happening to you. Or fourth or fifth. Because your looks are not the issue here.
>>5771015
>not caring about mathematics
What a pleb
>>5771010
>even a friend said that
Your friend sounds dumb.
>>5771003
And yet I'm one of the more successful transitioners here. Not to mention I'm beautiful the way I am already. I guess I must be doing something right...
>>5771010
>how
>>5770986
No because black people are ugly.
>>5771027
I'm going to make a guess. The friend knew her before transition.
>>5771010
This picture is kind of REEEE
>>5771024
>beautiful
Only on the inside
>>5771029
Mercury used to post often and I think we have korra now
>yfw all these people are discouraging others from ffs because they're jelly
>>5771010
>doesn't pass irl
JUST
>>5771016
See basically you look female pretty much already (at least in the head-on sideways photo). I thought you had full FFS from looking at the sideways photo.
The problem with me is that I looked like a fucking male hon monster before FFS and with some faces there's not a lot you can do. Mine is a perfect example.
But holy shit, it's not even FFS that made you look female, you just have a nice face.
>>5771018
>That's because you are insane Braddy.
Well fine, I don't deny that.
>Because your looks are not the issue here.
Though I still struggle to see how you can see anything remotely resembling a female in first pic I posted.
>>5771039
Do you mind sharing any before/after pics?
>>5770674
Why bother tucking? That sounds painful, and I had to wear underwear
>>5771039
>Though I still struggle to see how you can see anything remotely resembling a female in first pic I posted.
Because we actually interact with women irl and know what women look like outside of anime.
>>5771017
its just a good picture.
>>5771023
>>5771027
he was just honest.
he knew that that wasnt nice though, a week later he said he doesnt know how anyone would clock me.
muh hugbox
I am so sick of this shit.
>>5771030
he did. still.
>>5771031
w-what, why.
>>5771036
I definitely dont. or lots of people stare for the hell of it.
>>5771048
>he did. still.
That was an easy guess.
Not everyone stares at your because they're clocking you.
>>5771048
>I definitely dont. or lots of people stare for the hell of it.
sure it's not just jelly cis girls?
>>5771048
People stare cause you're cute. You pass. No hugbox yo.
>>5771048
You don't look that good but /mtfg/ has some very very very low standards and they prefer twinks over female looks
>>5771061
exactly my point.
thanks anon.
>>5771060
men stare at women like they don't stare at other men.
you probably aren't used to that from presenting as a male before transition.
>>5771039
Brad! Brad. Look at my other picture done by a different persons. All of those are before FFS.
Look at how different I look on every photo. Because everything is affecting how you look in a picture. If people IRL say you pass you probably do.
Again to say you look bad based on your photos.
>>5771060
Men find some girls too attractive to approach? Do you talk with them while you're out? I've even had a few approach me already so amazed if no. Do you just not go out much and ever sometimes to just hang out in public?
>>5771048
>I definitely dont. or lots of people stare for the hell of it.
that's probably because you're attractive.
>tfw referred to as m'lady at renaissance faire.
Good morning /mtfg/
>>5771064
>If people IRL say you pass you probably do.
not me :')
>>5771064
>Again >don't< say you look bad based on your photos.
>>5771060
>70% are men
And you've been living as a woman for how long?
>>5771065
I only go to uni alone. Ive pretty terrible anxiety and never go out without my SO. I dont deny that I pass occasionaly, but definitely not all the time, not even close. I guess like 20% clock me.
>>5771063
if that was true, why do they not stare at my sister, who is definitely way cuter?
>>5771077
3.5 years fulltime
>>5771075
I know I do though, both irl and pictures :)
>>5771053
Daily reminder that the more attractive and passable you get, the more other women will hate you.
y/n for this outfit?
>>5771069
Heyo how's you moap? Was it a neckbeard, that would only complete the image.
I had someone be surprised to find out my mom had a daughter then proceed to say like "Well I didn't know she had a daughter, though I didn't know she had a son as well until I met him a few years ago"
Only child lol. My aunt and uncle were cracking up.
>>5771079
Oh yeah, understandable, I mean people can clock me if they know things to look for but day to day seems pretty fine at this point.
Not sure if my other post got eaten up so I'll write this again:
Yeah I can certainly see what you mean, in P1/P2 you look make but in P3 you look totally cis-female. I guess stuff like focal angle makes a big difference too.
>>5771042
Yeah sure here you go.
>>5771083
kayla/10
>not just accepting the fact you look like a boy and forgoing surgery
>>5771083
fuck no dude it looks like a poncho
>>5771083
Needs a belt or something at least if that's gonna work.
>>5771082
looks like every woman on earth will love me then. :^)
Here's more for your viewing pleasure. Hon monster mode engaged.
>>5771083
>Boots are too much for this pattern.
>>5771093
Demarcation would look nicer, yeah
>>5771083
Get a thick belt and do something with the waist
>>5771097
>tfw pleb doesn't see the good parts of herself
>>5771089
Kill yourself you faggot.
>>5771060
You're mega cute and being eyefucked on the daily is what's happening
>>5771099
its too cold to wear heels today v_v
>>5771088
Please neck yourself chris
>>5771099
Cute legs
>>5771107
this actually made me chuckle. I dont agree, but thank you!
So yeah I guess FFS helped a bit but I still look like a ugly man.
>>5771083
Belt and shorter boots. Right now it's widening your shoulders and shortening your legs.
>>5771098
Wow. You look qt in this one. Don't do tranny bangs ever.
>>5771112
That's what I look like now and I got ffs :)
>>5771115
>you look qt
How drunk are you right now?
>Yesterday a friend told me my clothing choices were very feminine...
I feel like that is hugboxing
maybe i won't wake up tomorrow. ( ﾟ∀ﾟ)ﾉ
>>5771079
>if that was true, why do they not stare at my sister, who is definitely way cuter?
because noticing someone staring at you is a lot easier than noticing someone staring at someone else.
also you're always with yourself.
>>5771120
The real pigeon man is on 16th and mission
>>5771121
You know what would be worth it?
Fixing your fucking eyebrows.
>>5771117
Look to me you look really qt in that picture. Do whatever you want with that opinion. If I wasn't into men I would probably fall in love with you.
>>5771119
>get told that by therapist yesterday
>was literally just wearing a school hoodie with a tshirt and some jeans
this blatant hugboxing is silly.
>>5771123
he's not called waka FLOCKa flame for nothing. ( ´-｀)
>>5771121
Don't worry Brad.
Ffs made me look like this.
He can be hons together :')
>>5771085
Nawh, The Ren Faire, atleast the AZ one, is a lot less cringey than you might think. Less cringey than any of the conventions Ive been to, anyway. I was M'lady'd whenever I got addressed by some one in character, I don't get misgendered anymore.
That's shitty being an only child, I hope your parents were accepting atleast, mine had two other children to pin their hopes on so I just kinda live in the mountains forgotten about until I venture down.
>>5771119
Anytime someone properly genders you, they're just being polite.
Anytime some one compliments you, they're hugboxing.
Anytime some one is looking at you, they're clocking you
Anytime some one is flirting with you, they're mocking you.
>>5771121
I don't really get the point, you weren't sure when I started hrt, you were a monster, you're now fuckable and cute, you just need a bit of a brow job if you don't want negative attention.
>>5771089
faye youre really cute i wish you werent so hard on yourself
>>5771122
Ive told myself that for years. I dont have the strength to keep that facade up anymore though. I am considering getting a psychiatrist again and hopefully get meds to shut up my brain.
>>5771126
>implying hoodies have been a boy thing in the past decade
>>5771135
it's androgynous at most.
"very feminine" would be like a dress or something.
