/pol/here, this is not a RAID.
I just want to ask you a few question:
1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
>inb4 bait
I want real answers, I don't intend to bait/shitpost.
>inb4 bad English
I'm German.
>>5762889
>anti SJW
>left/center libertarian
>no
what is gender mainstreaming supposed to mean?
1. neither
2. centre left
3. yes
4. i'm not sure what you mean by this one. if you mean the demigender gender fluidity nonsense then i think it's just bourgeois white children who are raised by the internet and going through a phase. i wouldn't call this mainstream thought at all, i just think it is /pol/ conjuring up a bogeyman and having absolutely no life experience to realise that this is not how 99% of people, millennial or not, will act.
>>5762889
1. Against
2. Radical left/authoritarian
3. Pretty much
>>5762900
Thank you for your answers, I meant this SJW type of pronoun changing stuff and using wheird changes on words.
(this is what it is called like in Germany, I don't know if it is the correct English word)
>>5762900
Gender mainstreaming is the practice of increasing the visibility, presence, and "space" for persons of all genders within a society, organization, etc... Generally, this still refers exclusively to men and women, although it's possible that will change.
Contra
Libertarian, rightist, apolitical, I don't know
Yes
It's dumb.
>>5762889
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
I tend to agree with SJW views/ideas, but as I understand it SJW tends to be used to refer specifically to those who advocate for those ideas illogically, which I don't agree with obviously. Overall though, I lead to the SJW side.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Mostly left wing
>3. Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Yeah for the most part
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
I mean, I think making up hundreds of unique genders and pronouns is silly, but I think we should accept male, female, and other as genders, accept 'they' as a neutral pronoun for all genders. And I think people should be allowed to express their gender however they want - like if a dress code allows people to wear either pants or a skirt, that choice should be independent of one's actual gender.
>>5762889
Your curiosity seems rather pointless. It's as widespread as anywhere else.
It's all across the board, pretty much. Politics don't matter all that much in the first place since this board barely cares about anything that doesn't have to do with lgbt.
We all hate islam equally is the only real common ground you'll find.
>>5762889
1. Anti-SJW
2. National Socialist
3. Not really. It's complicated. I'm more of a low-key person and don't like the way some of the trans stuff is being pushed now. I think some of the activists make things worse. But, I also think a lot of the conservatives intentionally try to misrepresent things and overreact too. I also have a lot of anxiety about my future, like will I get a decent job, or be fucked over trying to rent apartments and that sort of thing. While I know that laws won't prevent people from not liking me, it's still scary. I think the ideal thing would be to make it something that is accepted enough so we can come out before we are permanently changed by puberty, and transition can then be done quietly so we can fit into society better. I have no desire to fuck traditional gender roles, or the patriarchy and all that. I just want to be on the other side.
4. What is gender mainstreaming?
>I'm German
Hallo! Das ist heiß. Bist du Nordisch mit blaue Augen und blondes Haar? Haben sie noch die rapefugee hinausgeworfen? Ist ihr Land noch der Judenfrage Aufwachen?
Blame google translate for the grammar.
>>5762989
>gay nazi
>>5763001
I'm a tranny.
>>5763005
>even worse
>>5762889
>Are you pro or contra SJW?
Anti
>Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Neither. Libertarians are too close to anarchism. I agree that governments should be limited in power so they can't use it against us but they still need to be large enough to protect and serve us. We need a Goldilocks zone and I feel libertarianism isn't it
>Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Yes I do. Although I would like the right to not be fired because of my sexuality I take comfort in the fact that as long as it's legal to fire me for being gay it would be legal for me to fire someone for being straight. I would never do that because I'm not an asshole, but it does make things equal.
>What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
Explain what this is
>>5762916
>wheird changes on words.
still don't know what you mean by this
as far as pronouns, it is a difficult issue as far as what role the government should play. ideally people would call you she or he how you want (although "they" does sound odd when referring to a specific person, i think it wouldn't be terrible to include its use as a singular gender neutral pronoun in this way) if you're not being an asshole. fuck xe xi xo xum though.
>>5763005
Haha, it's funny how any queer person could subscribe to a political ideology that goes against their own person.
>>5763021
I know.
>>5763029
I think he means the creation of 'demisemigirlqueer' people and whatnot
>>5762912
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
Mostly contra. I can sympathize with the base ideology but their execution leaves a lot to be desired.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Moderate with left/libertarian tendencies though I can also be a little right wing on one or two issues.
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Yeah I'm happy with my rights (Australian) but I spent most of my life in Zimbabwe so the bar isn't set too high for me.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
Its a fad. It'll die down but I do appreciate what its done for public awareness. I'm mtf if that's relevant in any way.
>>5762889
>/pol/here, this is not a RAID.
>I just want to ask you a few question:
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
Contra.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Left-leaning libertarian.
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Technically no, but that isn't because of LGBT rights. As a libertarian I think we should have lower restrictions on alcohol and the abolishment of drug laws.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
I don't know what that means, sorry.
>>5763036
Do what I did and become a pure authoritarian
>>5762989
Google translator fucked it up badly.
And yes I am of pure German offspring.
>>5762889
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
Against.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Right wing. Economically I'm more centrist than what the pic lets on.
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Yep.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
Memegenders need to die and I hate how being trans is seen more and more as a fad.
I'm a bi MtF, by the way.
1 anti-sjw
2 socially left, economically centrist
3 transsexuals need a place to work and a place to piss, I have that here, but some states need modernization
4 I think that there are more cis snowflakes under the "trans*" umbrella than actual transsexuals at this point, and they treat us like shit. Its becoming mainstream to act like presentation and gender identity are the same thing, and its dumb. Androgynous presentation doesn't mean you're neither male nor female.
>>5763066
>pure German offspring
>implying you don't probably have polish or otherwise eastern heritage
Bitte, komm nicht damit an
>>5763119
1/16 schlesisch bin ich zwar, jedoch fällt das auch unter deutsche Abstammung, natürlich kann da auch ein wenig von anderen europäoiden Rassen vorhanden sein.
/v/tard here.
>/pol/
KEK.
>>5762889
1. Old meaning contra, new meaning restrained pro.
2. Pretty fucking left.
3. Getting there. Most remaining issues are cultural, not legal, and will take a long while yet to resolve.
4. Absolutely. In a society with more than one gender, the implications of that plurality can't be ignored or handled as an afterthought.
>>5762889
Civil libertarian/Femfag
Don't like the extremists on both ends of the horseshoe. Lots of the more fringe part of pol are crazy, but so are radfem guys on the far-left who think calling themselves "feminists" makes them any less of preachy mouthbreathers who hate anything different from themselves.
Not my business what others do with themselves, that's their right. Individualism and body autonomy are natural rights, special names people make up are kinda silly in my opinion but it does me no harm. I'll like anyone who's cool on those points.
>>5763238
>1. Old meaning contra, new meaning restrained pro.
What's the difference between the old and new meanings?
>>5763271
It was originally a term coined by social justice organizations for members whose major "contribution" to the movement was harshly policing other members and silencing voices that veered from the approved message. They're mostly not people I'd get along with.
Lately, it has come to mean any person who is loud and aggressive in their pursuit of social justice initiatives. Which can be annoying, but I appreciate their enthusiasm when well directed; there's no guarantee it will be, but I find it often is.
>>5762889
1. Who in his right mind could be pro SJW. On the other hand I'm a mental wreck, so maybe I'm in the wrong afterall.
2. I'm german too, so how could I be left/libertarian anymore. It's the year of the refugee.
3. Far as I'm aware Germany doesn't have a single law regarding transgenders, most everything is regulated by the MDK and by proxy the health insurances. Which does us transsexuals quite well, because people cant get upset about being forced into acceptance or special treatment and german people are so distant that noone really gives a damn if your looks are a bit off. Most people don't even mind blatant transvestites. I wouldn't like laws putting pressure on anyone, on the other hand the "guidelines" the MDK put up in regards to our treatment are complete bullshit and should be changed.
Thus, since society treats me fairly normally, I don't know what rights I would be missing. All the blame is on the MDK.
It's super frustrating to go to public bathrooms, but that's just something we gotta deal with during transition. Makes no sense to upset people to have an actual reason to be mad at us either.
4. Not even sure what that is but isn't that the thing that's more egalitarian-oriented than actual feminism? If gender mainstreaming is proper egalitarian, I support it, if it's just feminism, I don't.
I hate SJW's
I'm a conservative right winger.
There are only 2 genders.
>>5762889
1. Neither. Both tend to be stupid.
2. Centre-left social liberal and civil libertarian.
3. Close, and they're under attack.
4. I support trans activism in general, but I think like any form of activism, it can get stupid,
Bi MtF.
>>5762889
1. Social Justice Snowflake. Agree on the principles, not on the method.
There is white, rich privilege ; yelling check your privilege is not the way to challenge them.
2. Pretty left-wing (democratic socialist/Trotskist)
3. I have enough rights, but not enough acceptance in the general sense. Hence the need of "propaganda" to tell kids I'm not a freak.
4. There are two genders, but a multitude of gender expressions.
>>5762889
1. SJWs don't go far enough
2. I'm so far to the left that Marx tells me to calm down.
3. No.
4. I have no idea where you're going with that.
>>5762889
>Neutral, I see some issues that are important that the "SJW" movement brings to light. But others are stupid.
>center-left
>I can be discriminated against for state and private employment and housing. So no, I don't
>I don't really care
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
pro for the most part, but people's definition of sjw seems to be different everywhere.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
far left
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
legal rights where I am are pretty good and getting better afaik (west coast usa). social change is more important though and I feel like we're slowly (very slowly) moving in the right direction.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
not entirely sure on what you mean by this, but:
why give a shit about what someone wants to be called? you're just being an asshole when ignoring that someone would rather be called he/she/they/xir/whatever-the-fuck. maybe gender fluidity is just a meme but if it makes someone feel better to be called that, why not?
>>5762889
1- they amuse me
2- dont give a fuck, but a political quiz said i would fit in the green party.. i think thats because i care more about plants and animals than people
3- i do whatever the fuck i want, no one has stopped me yet
4- i have no idea what that means, but you sound like a faggot for even asking so i know have doubts that you are from /pol/
1. Againts, they make us look bad
2. Right winger. Fuck the populist lefties goverments that are so common in my homeland.
3. I can marry, change my gender (I wouldn't do it though) and adopt children in my country. The problem is not a lack of rights, but how to end discrimination
4. Againts, it's just people without anything interesting in their life wanting to be a special snowflake and get attention and prpgressiveness points, if you meant genderfluid demiboys and all that stuff. If you meant transpeople I support their right to change whoever they think they'll be happy
>>5762889
1: Anti SJW
2: Fascist
3: No
4: Against
1. Against SJW
2. Ironically right-winger
3. Of coarse
4. It's fucked up and need to be gassed
>>5762889
contra-SJW
left-leaning libertarian
no
i don't know what it is
>>5762889
1. Anti
2.centrist
3.Not quite, almost there. I can get fired and denied housing for the trans in my state.
4.I don't know what that is.
1. I think SJWs are going about it all wrong
2. Radical left
3. Getting there
4. I think the whole thing is being way over repped by social media and is actually a very small minority
Here
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_mainstreaming
I'm getting sick of no one knowing what it fucking means and getting primed to hate on it by agreement with a completely separate popular target of hate.
>>5762889
>sjw
Depends, on what you mean by that.
>political alignment
libertarian
>rights
Not in every western country but in the US yes.
>gender
Bullshit, I understand transsexuals problems and I know some point down the line one would be able to manipulate his/her body enough to be for all effects as the opposite sex, that's not possible nowadays though. "Gender", i.e. gender roles are basically irrelevant nowadays, and yet you see a lot of stupid women trying to create their whole personalities around it to pretend they are oppressed.
It's funny how "SJW" never try to take action for people who actually need help i.e.:
>poor people, no matter the race
>native americans whose culture is basically walking towards extinction
>people with disabilities
>scientists (i.e. the people who actually make society advance) getting their founds cut.
Even worse, SJWs have no idea how to help someone. They create this addicting victim mentality instead of trying to create tools for those people to be independent.
Give a fish to someone and you'll need to do that every day, teach him how to catch a fish and he'll be well fed for life.
>>5762889
1.contra social justice warriors, pro social justice
2.left, previously libertarian
3.gays-yes, trans-no
4.men and women are not equal, they are different and have different needs in school,work, family ect.
>>5762889
1. kill all fascists
2. kill all fascists
3. string them up upside down
4. don't bump their threads
I hope this helps you in your quest for understanding op :^)
>>5762889
Anti SJW
Centrist
Yes
Against
>>5762889
Im Russian (
>>5762889
1. Neutral leaning anti. Wanting to improve the world is fine in my book, doing it by being a prick to people who have different opinions? Not cool.
2. Fairly left wing but with some libertarian tendencies. I'm definitely not one to think everything should be privatized.
3. Eh, sort of. Trans people definitely have rights issues
4. I legitimately don't know what that means.
>>5762900
>>5763052
>>5763376
>>5765300
>left libertarian
Kill yourself
>>5763023
You clearly do not understand libertarianism. You don't even know that their are different schools of it, including classical liberalism. A libertarian society would be much like the first 100 years of America, a government that represents and protects us, but don't interfere with our lives and restrict our freedoms.
>>5765722
Ah yes, those idyllic first 100 years of America, when southern agriculture depended on slave labor and tenant farmers in the north were perpetually abused by wealthy landowners supported by crony local governments.
You know, that prosperous era where luddites felt compelled by dire straits to destroy industrial equipment and the payment of laborers in scrip created de facto indentured servitude.
What is it with right libertarians and not having any understanding of history?
>>5765755
We no longer view jigs as property though, so their would be no slaves. And if you knew your history, you'd know that the majority of America did not own slaves, it was only the rich and the first slave owner was black.
Employers should be allowed to pay their workers whatever they want. It's their money and their business, they should get to decide. The minimum wage should be abolished, it's no one's fault but your own if you don't get an education and a good job. And there is nothing wrong with indentured servitude, it is a consentual contract that you choose to take part in.
>>5762889
>Are you pro or contra SJW?
Contra, SJWs need to get real.
>Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Libertarian
>Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Generally yes, I think it should be easier to change your birth certificate and that society needs to treat transfolk not like dirt but thats not a rights issue.
>What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
There are two genders, pick one.
>>5762889
1) Contra SJW movements. I can agree with some of what they stand for, but not with how they stand for it, or with their herd mentality, or with how they coerce you to subscribe to every letter of what they consider to be right just to be considered not only part of their "in" crowd, but to be considered to be in good moral standing by them. I hate their playing the victim and holier than thou attitude.
2) Economic leftist, cultural conservative, civic/cultural (and to a degree ethnic) nationalist. Not a supremacist and would prefer to judge people on their individual substance than what labels they carry.
3) I think the concept of "rights" is bullshit. You have only as many rights as you, yourself, as an individual, are willing to put your life on the line to fight with. Far too much emphasis is put on rights nowadays, but who is going to protect you when the shit hits the fan? Take the focus off rights and put it on responsibilities.
(Also, the fact that I can even assert as much without being killed means that yeah, I think I have enough "rights")
4) lol what is gender mainstreaming?
is that one of these "x is a social construct" things, as if calling something a social construct invalidates its purpose?
>>5765801
*to fight for
not to fight with, my bad.
anyway i need to write and print off resumés now that my mum is kicking me out for being a repulsive, degenerate tranny.
>>5765781
THIS IS WHAT LIBERTARIANS ACTUALLY BELIEVE
>>5765784
would it be okay to be legally male but keep taling hormones and crossdress?
>>5762889
1. Both sides are dumb. Just follow the golden rule and you are good.
2. Politics? oh sure like my vote matters
3. Not really.
4. He or She. 0 or 1.
>>5762889
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
against
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
I consider myself a right winger and even too conservative lol thats a bit ironic right
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
I dont care that much honestly, but yes, also I don't think we should have special rights just bcause were gay, like we're not special people or like being gay its a illness, we're just gay, only being respected its ok
>>5762889
1: Contra. They are the scum of the earth. There's no room in this world for prople that fucking weak.
2: Left leaning libertarian.
3: Yes
4: It's despicable. Keep that shit in the bedroom. I especially hate it when there is literally nothing else to the personality except "hey gurlfriiiieend btw I loooove caaaaaaahhhhk."
1. Anti-SJW. These assholes just try to jump on the LGBT-issues bandwagon, even though 99.9999999999% of these issues have died.
2. Socially moderate-libertarian, fiscally right-wing/capitalist.
3. I guess; still a couple of issues, but I have bigger problems. Sucks that Muslims are gonna ruin that for us, though.
4. For the 4 actual genders (male, female, and in rare cases (when geno/phenotype mutation occurs) intersex or asex), I feel that gender equality is important.
Any genders that don't correspond to an actual, physical sex are memes and deserve no attention.
Also, don't worry about appearing as though you're raiding us. This board is so full of seething self-hatred and politically-incorrect racist/sexist/homophobic slurs that a raid would probably go unnoticed anyway.
>>5762889
1. Fuck SJW
2. Socialconservative with a nationalistic view
3. Yes, as long we're treated like everyone else I'm fine.
4. He or she is enough. Otherwise call the person "it"...
>>5765781
>you'd know that the majority of America did not own slaves
Yes, but the majority weren't landowners either. And they acknowledged that in their post.
> the first slave owner was black.
Really not relevant, they weren't making it a race issue.
> it's no one's fault but your own if you don't get an education and a good job.
Education isn't free, if you're born into poverty it's hard to get a good education. So I wouldn't say "it's no one's fault but your own."
>And there is nothing wrong with indentured servitude, it is a consentual contract that you choose to take part in.
It's not really consensual in any meaningful sense if you have no other options. Signing a contract because you'd starve otherwise is really no different than signing a contract with a gun to your head.
>>5762889
1. I don't fucking care.
2. Anarchist
3. You can never have enough rights
4. What the fuck is this shit? And why should I care?
>>5762889
1. Neutral. I don't come in contact with them that often and don't really care.
2. Libertarian.
3. I don't live in a western country, and I still don't have a right to marry another woman. In western countries things are getting better, but I've heard of some rights which are still unavailable for many people (the right to change your sex in your legal documents before you have any kind of operation, unless that's different now).
4. If it's about equality then I'm all for it.
>>5766944
Not the person you're responding to, but I don't think it's possible to legislate economy without legislating morality to some extent. Even enforcing property rights, the bare minimum for a market economy to function, can be regarded as a moral issue.
Contra SJW bullshit because it's built on mountains of stupid problems
Leftist
Not yet, no
No idea what the last question means.
>>5762889
1. Contra
2. Left Libertarian
3. I don't know, I kind of hate that I'm liable to be beaten up for dressing in clothes I'm comfortable in, but the government doesn't really discriminate against me in any way I haven't been able to handle.
4. I don't know. I think gender is a complicated biological construct that nobody outside of a gifted few biologists and psychologists can really claim to understand. I'm okay with not knowing.
>>5762889
>contra, holy shit help us end that shit
>probably libertarian but not socialist or commushit
>yes
>wtf is that
1. Against social justice
2. Libertarian leaning conservative
3. Western countries give plenty of liberties
4. IDK yet
>>5762889
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
I think anyone who uses the term unironically, whether they support the concept or not, should be embarrassed for themselves. And most people who do this tend to be against it, in my experience.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Left.
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Don't like the word 'rights.' But my situation as a gay and trans person isn't ideal, we still get lots of shit in society and (for trans people especially), the system pretty much never works in our favor.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I believe being transgender is a real thing, if that's what you mean....
>>5762889
1. I don't like SJWs but I think political correctness is appropriate in some environments
2. Left-leaning libertarian
3. Me personally or the LGBT community as a whole? Personally, yes. As a whole, I think transgender people have it pretty rough (I'm not transgender though)
4. Per this >>5762916
I assume you mean calling the "chairman" of a company the "chairperson"? I think people should use whatever words they want.
>>5763001
They exist. I knew one once. He had issues.
>>5762889
1. they're pretty annoying and misguided most of the time, but idgaf
2. used to be a (real) libertarian, but I've finally grown up and realized a mixed economy is the best option. so uh, a lefty (^_-) ~
3. no, but I think we're on the right track atm. basically trannies need rights, and LGBT & women's rights (and aid) need to be extended at the national level
4.
>gender mainstreaming?
what? If you talking about trans rights/respect, I think it's good as long as it's actually representing transsexuals and not 14y/o girls who want to wear a flannel shirt sometimes or creepy perverts like chris(tina) chan or "stephon knee".
>I'm German.
of course you are
>>5762889
cis gay dude's unimportant opinion follows:
1. Like: stormfags, feminists, fundie Christians MRAs and Islamists I tend to just ignore SJWs, or laugh at them when they do and say stupid shit.
That said I do end up sharing a handful if not most social justice positions, but even then I usually loathe some of the people and tactics used to support those positions.
2. Left
3. short answer, No. (e.g. gay/trans panic defense.)
4. None. Until this thread I was not even aware of what "gender mainstreaming" is, and I do not care about gender politics.
Not the OP, but I have a couple of questions that don't really merit their own thread.
1. Is it 'transpeople' or 'transpersons'?
2. Do you think LGBT should be expanded to include other populations? I've seen LGBTQA in a couple of places, but it seems like going much beyond that would be getting too long.
>>5767994
2. Some people use the term "Gender and Sexual Minorities" (GSM). I think "LGBT" works just fine as a catch-all term, and it doesn't make people think of old cell phones.
1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
I use to be anti but now I don't care because I think they're just retarded.
2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Very far left.
3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Where i live we have it all so I'm satisfied. Only thing left is for healthcare to improve a bit.
4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
Idk what that is but trans people are legitimate.
>>5767994
1. Both trans people and trans persons are correct. The former emphasizes populations and the latter emphasizes individuals.
2. I really think it's time we rebrand to one of the alternative acronyms, instead of expanding LGBTQIAPTSPA, or whatever it's become further. It's alarmingly divisive, rather than unifying, and LGBT doesn't speak to the totality of the community. I'm rooting for GS(S)M.
>>5768071
What's the extra S for?
>>5768071
>LGBTQIAPTSPA, or whatever it's become further. It's alarmingly divisive, rather than unifying
Agreed.
>I'm rooting for GS(S)M.
The problem with this is that it does not draw a line on what and who we're willing to accept into our community. One of the reasons for being the LGBT community instead of the queer community was to keep pedophiles and zoophiles out. Although they are a sexual minority, their sexuality causes harm to people and society. They should be treated rather than accepted. If we make a sign that says "everyone welcome" then everyone will come right in.
>>5768132
I think the "no pedos" thing is implied.
>>5762889
1. Contra SJW
2. Center Right
3. Too much, we shouldn't be forcing people to go against their 'beliefs' in providing services to Gays
4. I'd very much like use to close the gap on this. If you are trans you must get complete surgery and be refered to as either he or she, no in between bs
Times are changing and so have the conservatives.
>>5768132
As more and more sexual minorities begin to be treated as legitimate, it's not going to become feasible to include them all in an acronym.
>>5768148
Never assume that. It needs to remain clear that they're not part of our community. Although stuff like this https://archive.is/S8sm6 is just on clickbait sites, they're on the PC/feminist/leftist clickbait sites frequented by normies. Instead of arguing against these articles we ignore them because of where they're posted. While we're ignoring them the ideas they spread (even if it wasn't their intention) are growing. There are incredibly stupid people on all sides of every issues and the stupid people on our sides, like the trust fund hipster brats, will be the ones that will end up pushing this crap. And because they tend to take jobs in politics or media, they will not have a hard time spreading it
>>5768074
Sex. I think it's implicit, but would rather hear more intersex voices on the subject rather than just assuming such.
>>5762889
Mostly pro, socialist, Not enough, the fuck is mainstreaming
>>5762889
1. Anti
2. Centralist but can agree with a lot of the stuff /pol/ says
3. Ya we're fine
4. Don't like it but also don't really care
>Are you pro or contra SJW?
Neither? I just don't care
> Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Left
>Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Really depends. In Canada here and its fine so far.
> What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
I actually find some of it valid but once it comes to that bunself/lithgender shit then I draw a line.
>>5762889
>Pro
Social equality is a good thing and letting tumblr poison the well for you is stupid
>Left wing all day baby
>No
Can still be fired for being gay, denied equal housing, and people are still trying to pretend gay marriage doesn't exist
>WTF is this
Someone's gender isn't my business and I literally do not care what someone wants to call themselves if it makes them happy.
>>5762889
1. I think that SJW's are mostly straw men or low-hanging fruit
2. Left; socialist
3. No
4. Good.
So many leftists in this board...
>>5762889
1 SJW are ruining everything fuck these idiots. They are faggots who want attention.
2 Neither but there are interesting things in all three.
3 I think we're good. We don't need much laws just people to mind their business and grow the fuck up.
4 Just like metal, everyone made up their genre, which have meanings and some truth in its, you just don't need to pay much attention on it. Focus on headlines : trans are trans, black metal is black metal.
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
Depends on your definition of "Social Justice Warrior". If it's someone that co-ops social issues for the sake of self-promotion, undermining the legitimacy of the issue as a result, then no. I don't support that. But I also feel the label gets thrown around too loosely, to the point where almost anyone that acknowledges sexism and racism still exist (and are still bad) is at risk of being labeled a SJW.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
In general I'm probably more left wing than anything else. I use to consider myself a libertarian, but I've been feeling more and more disenchanted by other self-proclaimed libertarians.
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
Me personally? I'm sure I could think of something to complain about if I really took the time, but off the top of my head I feel like I'm mostly open to pursue the lifestyle I want.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
This is the first I've heard of it. I haven't considered it nearly long enough to have any meaningful opinion on it yet.
>>5770315
It used to be a lot worse.
>>5765991
anyone who calls themselves a libertarian shouldn't care at all what you do with your time, just as long as they don't have to pay taxes to support your hobby
>>5771851
What if the hormones are prescribed by a doctor? Should there be no subsidization of medical treatments?
>>5763105
>4.
This desu
>>5762889
Hello, /pol/.
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
Con with a capital C.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Definitely not a leftist. Every alignment quiz I take puts me dead in the center with a slight right libertarian leaning. I call myself a classical liberal but most Americans just hear "liberal" and think I mean the left kind. Liberals call me a self-hating redneck nazi. Trump supporter. Will not apologize.
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
In regards to being a faggot? Yes. About so. In regards to being a tranny there are still quite a lot of issues. Transitioning from female to male has really opened my eyes to the strikingly polarizing existence of female privilege and has turned me away from respecting female-centric movements that exclude men's issues, not that I was a radical feminist or blind to these issues before anyway. I think transwomen have it pretty rough. Currently, we need a bit of legal protection so that we can live but I am not one for "legislated social equality". People don't have to like me and I will always rally for the protection of hate speech against me, I'd just like to not be fireable from my government job on the basis of being a transsexual.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
If you're talking about trans-trenders (i.e. non-binary snowflakes, etc.), I consider them to be a profound insult to myself and other real trans people. They associate fashion/presentation with gender and believe that is all that is needed to be "transgender". If you do not have body dysphoria, you are not trans. These blue haired tumblr girls with their maymaygenders and neo-pronouns are showing up to our support groups and stealing our rightful voice and spotlight for their retard show. They claim that gender & sex are and gender is a choice. This is harmful to us who were born in the wrong body. We've been fighting the choice notion for decades.
Gay FTM.
1. I'm anti-SJW. I personalky think that the shit they do is worse than nothing.
2. I'm left wing.
3. I think I do (canada)
4. If you mean all of the demi gender otherkin tumblr shit, then i'm against it.
>1. Are you pro or contra SJW?
Anti.
>2. Are you left/right wingers or libertarians?
Lefty.
>3.Do you think you have enough rights (in western country's) yet?
In the US, I feel bretty gud about my rights.
>4. What are your opinions about gender mainstreaming?
The fuck does that even mean?
>>5762889
1. Contra
2. Paleolibertarian
3. As a person no, as a fag i have too many because anti discrimination laws
4. There's two genders with clear differences
>>5762889
1. idgaf
2. left
3. almost
4. what?
mit Liebe,
eine MtF
>>5772089
Depends on how libertarian someone is.
On the extreme end people would say it is up to the patient to pay for any and all medical expenses.
On the more moderate end some might go either way.
I could see an argument for hormones being covered by taxes if people believe being a transgender is a mental illness that is cured by transitioning.
The other side could liken wanting to transition to getting cosmetic changes. It would be ridiculous to pay taxes for someone else plastic surgery, wouldn't it?
>inb4 people start getting all offended
I'm just pointing out some points of view. Don't be a retard.
>>5762889
>anti sjw
>libertarian
>we dont have all the correct rights, but we do have a lot of good ones
>transgenderism is real, if that's what you mean. Ppl can call them self whatever they want, idc. But otherkin is just dumb imo.
