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What is the weather like where you live?
What are the perks of being ftm?
Post what you are wearing or your favorite outfit.
List some theoretically interesting and manly hobbies
>>5742621
Aww, y'all took my edition suggestion. I'm honored. /tips hat/
>>5742621
Does anyone have any recommendations for good walking shoes in small/kids sizes? I walk a lot and need something that is comfortable and won't fall apart quickly.
>>5742978
New Balance makes good shoes. Their non-"running" shoes are stocky and make your feet look bigger, and they're super comfy too. They're expensive (at least where I live) but they'll last you. I have a bunch of shoes but NBs are all I wear now.
Anons what are your shoe sizes? mine are UK 7, so I'm really lucky because pretty much everywhere stocks male shoes in size 7.
>>5744316
mens uk 5/womens uk 7
so even though i cant find shit in mens shoes, i can find masculine womens shoes pretty much everywhere.
>>5744332
mens' and womens' shoe sizes are the same in the UK though?
>>5744342
nope. theres anywhere from .5 of a size to a full 1 size difference. it varies.
>>5744348
I've only really experienced this with American import shoes, but I'm probably just mistaken, I don't really buy things that often.
>>5742732
>What is the weather like where you live?
It was well below 0 a few days ago, then suddenly got hit with warm rain(the sky also turned green, which is something i have never seen before), and now its kinda warm. New England weather is weird.
>What are the perks of being ftm?
The world doesn't think I'm invading men's spaces and trying to rape them. Men don't give a fuck if I'm in their bathrooms.
>Post what you are wearing or your favorite outfit.
A 10+ year old tattered Dir En Grey tshirt and 10+ old skull pajamas.
>List some theoretically interesting and manly hobbies
Blacksmithing is pretty fun and awesome.
Anyone managed to get a voice they like and want to share some advice for people who are working on that?
Every time I try to make my voice more masculine I just sound like I'm doing a Darth Vader impression.
>>5744401
Darth's voice is pretty manly.
>>5742630
>straight last
You guys sure do love the dick
>>5744449
I said bisexual but I wouldn't have sex with a guy irl, I just think boys in TV shows are cute and like watching gay porn desu
>>5744449
>ignoring the asexual/other
Historically ftmg has had more aces than heteros. Remember this is a gay board.
Also, most the population is bi but I feel trans people are more willing to admit/report it.
>>5744316
Around 42
8-8.5 UK
8.5-9 US
>>5742732
>What is the weather like where you live?
The snow came and went down in the "kettle", but the ice won't quite melt. The sun still barely pulls up its sleeves before it disappears behind the mountains to the west of the fjord. Cold gusts from the sea shoot through downtown and will bite your nose off if you don't hide around the corner. Everyone is all scarves and sniffles and hands buried in pockets, because you don't /really/ need mittens. Except that you do.
Some people always tough it out, like the cold cares you're trying to fight it. But put on some long johns and early spring becomes refreshing.
>pic related, my camera trying its best with a sunset on the harbour.
I hate that all the "popular" transguys and the ones that I see in the media are 5'9. Fuck them and their superior genetic gifts.
>>5744627
Eh what?
>>5744627
Use lifts, anon.
>>5744316
UK women's 4.
>>5744627
>tfw 5'9"
>tfw birthing hips
I get it, but neither of us did shit to deserve this.
>>5744800
I saw them about 3 times in NYC in highschool because my gf at the time was really into that jrock stuff, anime and all that jazz. They were really the only thing I could get into, and the concerts were pretty fucking fun. I caught a drumstick that was thrown into the crowd.
Literally why would you ever decide to be ftm? Serious question. I can understand choosing to be mtf, but why ftm? You'll never be a man. You'll just be a girl with the voice of a boy going through puberty, some face pubes and broken sexual parts. Really, transition surgery just makes you have a clit that isn't capable of feeling pleasure and you can never have proper sex. So why?
>>5744831
>>5744813
i went with my bros and s/o, i'm not a huge fan of most asian shit but they were enjoyable and i figured they'd probably be good live... this was like 7 years ago
you probably went to the same place i did to see them cuz terminal 5 is in manhattan
>>5744316
us men's 5.5 which basically doesn't exist. the smallest most shops stock is 8. i have to buy kid's shoes...
>>5744866
DEG fan anon here and I was at the Terminal 5 show. I went to all their NYC area shows from 2006 to like 2011 or somewhere around there.
>>5744880
we were probably there at the same time then... crazy shit...
>>5744794
There's a furry manlet with birthing hips on /fit/ who's rather popular with the boys. The hips aren't necessarily a bad thing.
>>5744895
+ i actually really don't like terminal 5... it's such a shit venue
i prefer outdoor shows, and the bowery ballroom is alright, even though security there is annoying... got caught with weed there once at a wax show, and ended up blowing it in the security guard's face (i had just inhaled he came up behind me and grabbed the joint out of my hand and was like "you're smoking weed?" had to exhale to say "yeah") he was pissed as fuck... had my id and was going on about calling the cops and shit, but i was with someone who knew a guy who worked there so we got let back in and nothing happened...
>>5744847
Just tossed that one in the wash but I dont even know what year it's from because it's so worn. Here's my other one from the 2008 tour in NYC. I have another octopus one but that was from hot topic.
I wouldn't be opposed to seeing them again if they come to Boston and I have extra money to kill. In NYC it was like a 20 minute bus trip away and their tickets weren't terribly expensive.
>>5744945
Yeah I hate Terminal 5. Worst venue layout I've seen in awhile, and it's always so packed you can't move anywhere in the entire building. I'm pretty sure they regularly break fire codes by letting in too many people.
>>5744967
Oh cool, I never had that shirt but I have another one from that tour... since my upper body has bulked out from T I've outgrown it though, which is a shame because I really like it.
>>5745039
I'm swimming in this shirt. I don't know if it is a medium or large, but back in that day I always wore oversized baggy clothes. It's so stretched out and worn now I could probably gain 300lbs and still fit it. This is the other shirt I own but not sure where I put it.
Terminal 5 is so fucking tiny. I forgot what year it was but one time I went and they were just crowd surfacing people out of the crowd left and right and throwing water on us and tossing us free water bottles like crazy. I must have shared a bottle with 8 other people since everyone would just take a swig and pass it onto the next person. It was just so crowded you couldn't get out unless someone crowd surfaced you out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAG9vh3z2VA
Can I transition into this guy? Whose blood do I have to spill to be able to sing with such power?
>>5745089
i know you watched some guys transition video that had this playing in order to get here, nerd
>>5745095
Hey man, can't a guy look up One Punch Man covers without an interrogation?
>>5745117
IM WATCHIN YOU
>>5745083
This has been my experience every time I've been to Terminal 5. They do a shit job at crowd management and I feel like I take my life in my hands just walking into the building.
I always wore oversized baggy clothes too back then, especially shirts, but I bought a size too small in the first place, and also this particular shirt for some reason is really small in the shoulders and arms. So when I put it on now I look like some sort of wierdly shaped kid.
>>5745121
Good.
>>5744967
that's when i saw them... your shirt reminded me, i was unsure of the year, but i recognized the shirt... i was smoking a lot of dusted weed and shit at the time so it's a blur pretty much
>>5745039
yeah they definitely let too many people in there... though the shows i've seen there are probably another part of the reason it wasn't the best place to be either... both shows i kept ending up by the people who are trying like hell to start a mosh pit and i'm 5' tall so it's turns into a constant struggle for balance
though the back where it's calmer isn't much better... i prefer chiller concerts, and fresh air
a fire there would be fucking scary as shit though yeah... didn't think about that 'til just now... hard enough to stay standing getting out... that'd be hell lol
random off-period bleeding
because once a month wasnt enough!â„¢
>>5745175
it* not it's my bad
>>5745083
i've been in smaller places i've enjoyed more... though i honestly think it's probably just that i saw msi and dir en grey there, i wanted to see the brian jonestown massacre but my s/o wouldn't go with and almost everyone i know for the most part is really into metal so i had no one to go with... i imagine that show was probably fine and i hated the place as much as i did cuz of the crowd + environment ... idk...
who else did you see there?
>>5744942
>The hips aren't necessarily a bad thing.
I want to believe.
I have this voice in my head that says it's okay on other people, but not on me.
>>5745293
Diru is the only band I saw there. I did see NIN but it was in like, a stadium. That was my first 'real' concert. I saw GWAR just before the lead singer died in 2012 but I also forgot the name of the place.
>>5745331
just was thinking it was probably just the crowd rather than the venue...
never seen either of them... never been a fan of gwar though, i like some nin...
the only show i completely enjoyed was built to spill in coney island the last year of sirenfest... but it was way more chill
>>5744496
>asexuals
Go die in a fire if you believe in that shit.
>>5742732
>weather
Cold as balls.
>perks
Being able to sleep in just boxers.
>outfit
Current clothing - Jeans and a tshirt
Favorite clothing - Jeans and a tshirt
>hobbies
Football and beer
>>5745431
this is probably bait but why do you care so much if people don't want to have sex lol
though i will say that it bugs me when straight trans guys call themselves queer, i mean i get why they do it but it's still annoying
gypsy being weird and laying in my hand on her back to be pet...
>>5745501
ty nonny
i love birds, was feeling down, yours is qt as fuck and cheered me up a bit
give her plenty of scritches for me
>>5745499
It's not about not wanting to have sex. You can not want sex all you want. Doesn't change if you're into men or women. So stop fucking claiming it's a sexuality when it isn't. It's a mental problem.
>>5745499
Queer is anything that's not cishet isn't it?
>>5744316
8 USW/4 or 5 USM/38 EUW (not sure if european sizes are differentiated by gender)
I sometimes buy a size up in men's shoes just because of availability. Or I just get unisex looking "women's" shoes if it's for running or whatever.
>>5745518
People always seem to assume I'm asexual when they learn I'm forever alone. And they tend to be weirded out when I say no.
>>5745499
Eh...I can at least see the reasoning behind that, but what I really hate is people using "queer" as a catch-all term for anyone non cishet. It's a common slur that's still used today, and if you're gonna refer go other gay/trans people with it, you should at least admit it's offensive. Even if you're gay yourself or whatever.
>>5745518
again i don't really understand why you care lol. and do you really find it so unbelievable that some people just aren't attracted to anyone? don't you ever have periods in your life like that, even if only for a day or two, when your only reaction to even the hottest people is "meh"? idk, it's not so farfetched to me that people can be like that permanently
>>5745521
yeah that's why they use it, but it seems really disingenuous for a guy who dates women, has no attraction to men, is seen by the world as a straight man, etc, to call himself queer. he will never have to be afraid of hearing that word shouted at him when he walks down the street holding his girlfriend's hand (as long as he passes, i guess). like i said i understand why they use it but as someone who does get called queer when i walk down the street with my dates i think i'm allowed to be bugged by their usage of it
>>5745603
i sometimes use the word "queer" to refer to myself but i never ever use it as a catch-all or refer to other people with it.
>>5745518
Asexuals aren't sexually attracted to men or women. How is that such a difficult concept to understand? Gays aren't attracted to the opposite gender, so according to you they have a mental disorder.
Not wanting to have sex is being celibate, not asexual.
I want to die. I'm so tired of trying to deal with a lifetime's worth of guilt and shame. I'm so tired of trying to make it funny, trying to turn legitimate self-hatred into self-deprecating humor, trying to make my feelings palatable for others. I'm tired in general. There's no point in continuing to do any of this and I'm sick of being a waste of resources, but every time I try to kill myself, I can't go through with it. Yet another failing. I'm so fucking tired.
>>5745517
she had plenty... that was actually her enjoying getting in trouble for flying up the stairs...
what's wrong? i've actually had a shit day too...
>>5745654
>don't you ever have periods in your life like that, even if only for a day or two, when your only reaction to even the hottest people is "meh"?
It's called having a normal sex drive. It may be a shock to you but not all non-asexuals want to hump everything 24/7.
>>5745660
I know what fucking celibacy is. Thinking sex is "icky" isn't celibacy nor is it it's own sexuality.
>Gays aren't attracted to the opposite gender
I'm fucking sick of seeing this argument brought up so many goddamn times every time one of you autists try to defend your made up sexuality like it's some instant-win phrase you can just parrot and hope everyone is as fucking retarded as you and will leave it at that.
Guess what? Gays aren't afraid of sex. And the ones who are either own up to it or try to slap the "asexual" label on themselves anyway. You dumb bastards keep trying to force others to believe your retardation is a sexuality when you contradict yourselves so much that it's no wonder no one takes you seriously.
>>5745811
>attention fagging this hard
If you're gonna anhero then do it. Quit looking for a fucking hugbox. People like you are what's wrong with the world today.
>>5745906
lel, what asexual person pissed in your porridge lad
>>5745811
what's going on exactly? assuming you wanna talk about it... i'll listen if you do (even if it's everything) cuz i know what it's like to wanna kill myself, i think about it pretty much daily actually...
between being trans, being sick, and then just my life in general you know? about a week ago i was pretty close and i just ended up taking codeine and then going to sleep instead... and it's not really that anything has changed or gotten better, i'm just not in that place currently... i'm alright at distracting myself at this point i guess... sometimes that's just what you gotta do 'til you're in a different place where life seems a bit more bearable again...
i'm rambling... little high still sorry, and just... burnt out, exhausted from pain and trying to function like a human in spite of having zero energy to do it
but yeah... talk about whatever you need to if you want
>>5745926
Since you don't have an actual rebuttal then you can go fuck yourself. Hope your self deception and made up sexualities and genders alienate everyone you know and you kill yourself from loneliness.
>>5745817
birds exist just to be smug pieces of shit that get into trouble all of the time, and i love it :> ty for more bird!
mostly usual trans stuff. disliking my body, am on period, keep trying to work out but feeling like its nothing compared to if i was on T. idk. gonna keep at it though. im also trying to do more yoga and stretching things like that, but... yknow, it makes you feel your body and stuff. and more girls do yoga than guys i think so it kinda gives me those dumb "not masculine enough" feels.
hope youre feeling better soon, anon. ;_; hopefully we both will.
>>5745811
i know that feel. i often feel really shitty that i even have to joke about myself in the first place. i make plenty of jokes about my transness, because it seems to make (especially cis) people way more comfortable. but it feels shitty at the end of the day, when i think back on it. especially when i think about how cis people dont have to joke about their gender nearly as much, literally just to have it accepted.
shit sucks. its perfectly okay to feel tired, bro. let it happen, and maybe youll feel better, maybe you wont. idk. i just try to let things happen as they happen, sorry if that sounds like hippy shit. but basically, dont feel guilty about this. your feelings are valid and we're in this together, buddy. i know some other guy said you were attention fagging, and maybe you/we are, but thats cool to do sometimes. gotta let it out somewhere, and ftmg sounds like a solid place.
>>5745915
some people don't have anywhere else to go with that kinda shit, and need someone (anyone) to listen... nothing wrong with that... no need to be a dick about it anyway
>>5745944
I'm not a dick I'm being honest. Y'all wanna be men so fucking badly but then you come in here with that pussy attention-seeking bullshit. No one likes getting roped in by people like that. They're fucking toxic and if they wanna die then they should be handed a fucking gun not hugged and given blankets and hot chocolate.
>>5744627
haha manlet
>>5745958
you need to watch out m8 you could cut yourself on all that edge
>>5744831
>mtfs are women
>>5745975
You know what? Have fun with dealing with pissy manbabies who want to make their FEELZ everyone else's responsibility instead of taking it for them themselves. I'll be here living my own life being an actual man. Unlike you cucks.
>>5745958
>Y'all wanna be
>come in here with that
oh yessa massa I gon be a gud nigga
>>5746006
>Still no actual argument
>>5746009
Because I'm ftm. Not a woman playing dress up like everyone else in this thread seems to be based on how overly sensitive you all are.
>>5746027
ahh, the classic overcompensating 'i'm a real man, unlike you fairies' ftm
give it time lad, you'd be best mellowing out a bit. doesn't do you any good to be staying that highly strung
>>5746010
who was having an argument with you lmao
>>5746027
>how overly sensitive you all are.
>some anon complaining about his life
>you go on a 20 post estrogen fueled tangent about how you are a real man and every one is beneath you
>>5746033
>overcompensating
If that's the case then tell me this. If an ftm is supposed to have the brain of a man and the body of a woman, then why do you faggots still think and act like women? Because so far, 99% of the online ftm communities on the internet seem to consist of fucking transtrenders who wanna play dress up because they didn't like playing with barbies as a kid. The only real discussions seem to be medical in nature. Everything else is fucking whining and suicide threats all in the name of getting ass-pats. Even most cis men don't act like this. So fuck off.
>>5746058
>whining and suicide threats
>Even most cis men don't act like this
>>5746058
How old are you kiddo?
>>5746058
the reason is because most ftms you see are white, most ftms here are white, and people who were raised as white females were coddled and protected and cherished as children, giving them weak faggot personalities
you are a basketball american, which means you were ignored and or treated like shit as a kid, which is closer to the way men are treated
>>5745906
>It's called having a normal sex drive. It may be a shock to you but not all non-asexuals want to hump everything 24/7.
yeah i know that dickweed. all i'm saying is that it's not implausible to me that some people are just always "off" and don't have any drive or attraction at all.
take a chill pill bro. seriously. being manly doesn't mean being in ragemode 24/7. i know that people like you tend to have a lot of self hatred fueling this kind of random lashing out, but here's a protip: compassionate, understanding, and kind men are the ones everyone looks up to (and want to sleep with). there's no reason not to try to understand and love other people. start with yourself homeslice.
>>5746104
>you are a basketball american, which means you were ignored and or treated like shit as a kid, which is closer to the way men are treated
Tbh this post does make a sound argument. Like, I love all you guys but an upbringing of a dude is vastly different to a girl.
>>5746129
>tfw self-reliant middle child
>>5746149
>tfw ignored but also sheltered last child
>>5746157
is that why you're such an attention whore
>>5746104
I actually am white. I also used to buy into the feelsy bullshit like you see in this thread. But once I got older, I realized feeling sorry for myself and tying other people into my drama wasn't going to get me anywhere in life and I need to "man up" as they say. That's where
>>5746033
>>5746055
>>5746071
>>5746074
>>5746079
>>5746129
are all fucking up. They think responding with reaction pics and fallacious arguments are going to help them defend their position. When all it's doing is proving me right. That they all act like little fucking girls.
>>5746128
>some people are just always "off" and don't have any drive or attraction at all
A symptom of autism. Still not a fucking sexuality.
Also not handling everyone with kid gloves isn't being in ragemode. You're trying to make it sound like I'm some emotionally stunted 13 year old. I'm simply being honest with you guys. I pointed out flaws that every single one of you "asexuals" spouts out like a broken record and you've done nothing to try and redeem your argument.
If you don't wanna hear it then you can log off and go slit your wrists in a bathtub while listening to Taylor Swift for all I care.
>>5746162
shh i love straightwhiteguy
>>5746162
I'd be anything for you my love.
Besides, it's well known that middle children are the bigoted attention whores here. The last child just gets shat on and builds the self-respect as a result that the middle child never achieves.
>>5746165
But anon I in part agree with you. Stop being a queerboy and nut the fuck up. Transtrenders exist, we know, they are hated here.
>>5746165
>slit your wrists in a bathtub while listening to Taylor Swift
do you watch me in my home
>>5746190
>not superior female pop act
>>5746165
>If you don't wanna hear it then you can log off and go slit your wrists in a bathtub while listening to Taylor Swift for all I care.
how is this not ragemode? how is flinging around insults, telling people to kill themselves, purposefully misgendering fellow trans men, and all the other shit you've been up to in this thread not constitute ragemode? i do think you're some emotionally stunted teenager, honestly. well-adjusted, emotionally mature adults don't say these kinds of things to other people.
>I pointed out flaws that every single one of you "asexuals" spouts out like a broken record and you've done nothing to try and redeem your argument.
i'm not asexual, for the record. far from it. but you also are not really presenting any semblance of an argument. "a symptom of autism" is not an argument, it's a meme.
if you want to take off the kiddie gloves, then do it. stop acting like a middle-schooler and grow up. present your argument like an adult: without resorting to calling people names.
>>5746206
>brunettes
>>5746235
More waifu for me.
What is up with this thread.
Guys, please don't take easy bait and let's try to keep our gen chill.
Chill oot:
https://youtu.be/TWdSi0Xw4u0?t=2046
>>5746129
This is truth, but would you not fuel the saltiness in the thread my dude
>>5746229
>flinging around insults, telling people to kill themselves
It's the internet. People are gonna say worse shit than this to you here. Grow a pair and deal with it.
>purposefully misgendering fellow trans men
Act like a man and people will treat you like one. Act like a woman and people wont take you seriously as an ftm.
>"a symptom of autism" is not an argument
Actually it is. Since a lot of the things asexuals use to label themselves are warning signs of undiagnosed autism. Such as not liking being touched and being a severe introvert. Not a sexuality. What they want to define as asexuality is biologically impossible.
>not knowing what a meme is
>thinking it's some magical debunking word
I think this speaks for itself.
>present your argument like an adult: without resorting to calling people names
Says the person who's been coddled on the internet their entire life. I bet you're a millennial too. Real life is going to be much much harder than anything I've presented to you. Once you get a job and move out of your mommy's house, no one's going to give a shit about if you want to kill yourself or not. For them, it just means they need to start interviewing for a replacement pretty soon.
Here's your test boys: can you just fucking ignore him
>>5746275
i actually guarantee i'm much older, much more financially successful, and much further along in "real life" than not just you but probably everyone else in this thread. but honestly i'm done engaging with you because it's clear that you don't want to talk or have productive conversations, you just want to yell at people. this is what i get for trying to talk sense into a maladjusted child on 4chan. but in b4 you call me a girl and tell me to go cry home to mommy amirite lol
>>5746275
no you get off MY lawn
>trying to think of potential name
>initials are SJW
>>5745941
she's mostly pretty sweet, but sometimes she's a piece of shit...
probably doesn't make you feel much better, but i actually do quite a bit of yoga too... helps with chronic pain and whatnot... i really don't care if it's masculine or not though... i've already accepted that i'm not very masculine... i mean like i love shit like flowers (pic related from my garden last year) and i bake etc etc etc
it's a lot easier to just be myself than worry about it not being good enough...
i'm unlikely to feel much better unfortunately... i have a lot of health issues so every day is kinda... meh for the most part... i'm dizzy as fuck today and my vision is off (mostly in my right eye it's almost always my right eye) neck and spine feel fused... and just stomach and muscle pain and idk if it's my back or lungs that i'm feeling but one of them and def my kidneys...
periods are shit though, mine always gets me depressed and weird and shit...
with working out though you kinda just gotta do it... whether or not you even feel like it just force yourself even if it's just for 5 minutes... helps to get your head together, it's one of the few things you just need to do in order to feel like doing it...
>>5746352
Haha. Good luck with that.
>>5746375
I used to work with this guy who was so hot and had the most amazing body... he claimed that the only exercise he did was pull-ups, jogging, and yoga. I believed him. It makes me want to be yoga but I'm a lazy shithead so lol
>>5746389
the hottest guy i know is a yoga teacher, so there may well be something to it
>>5745958
oh i get what you feel, you don't have to explain it to me... i just see it as you being a dick, and you can think whatever you want of me for seeing it that way, but i don't really give a shit...
you're more toxic than someone who needs to talk cuz they're in a shit place... if you don't want to talk to them, and can't act decent towards them don't bother with them at all... cuz you're not only giving them attention (negative attention is still attention), but you're also being negative as shit and no one likes that...
>>5746000
>being a real man
lol, i know plenty of guys who have no problem being there for someone who needs it, being an asshole to someone who's depressed doesn't make you "a real man" it just makes you an asshole who happens to be a guy...
>>5746027
having feelings doesn't make someone overly sensitive... besides you're acting out a hell of a lot for someone who says they're not sensitive...
>>5746058
yeah, you win you're the manliest transguy in the entire general... feel good?
>>5746389
my joints and bones always feel fused so i have to do it or it feels worse + it's most of what i can do now... i used to go out and wander like 6+ miles a day in the woods climbing trees and shit, and ended up with lyme disease so now it's shit like yoga most of the time or i feel lazy as shit...
>>5746298
i went out and just got home and missed a good deal of his bitching...so no, i can't sorry... i need something to do between now and smoking again...
>>5746352
>trying to think of new name
>initials are NEW
I liked the name but nah
>>5745811
If you can stomach it still, feel free to vent. Time zone means I have to crash soon but I'll be here tomorrow.
What a shitty day, ftmg
>>5747158
What happen anon
My day was pretty shit too, I've got a miserable cold this week. At least I look sexier when I'm sick for some reason.
>>5747190
Work has just been stressful as fuck and it was full of drama.
Was your day shit because of your cold? I feel you though, I always thought I looked more attractive with a swollen lip or black or swollen eye. I have no idea why.
>>5747310
Work drama sucks. At least you can leave it behind once you go home for the day right?
And yeah, just a sucky day because of the cold. Can't really go anywhere or get anything done. Also I really want to pick up some guys on grindr or something but I can't do that when I can barely breathe for all the mucus in my head... fucking is totally out of the equation heh
>>5747420
For sure, I normally can but shit went down after I left so tomorrow calls for my attention to said shit. It's to the extent that I have to give a statement about my higher up to an even higher up. Shit sucks.
Sounds dumb but I had a nurse tell me to take ibuprofen for sinus congestion and I think it helps. I'm always so plugged up from drinking beer like a motherfucker that I can't tell the difference or maybe I just can't remember.
There will be days in the future for grindr ass though anon, just believe in yourself.
>>5747440
That sucks, dealing with coworkers' shittiness is the worst kind of work drama. I've never been in a situation like that, hopefully it'll be over once you've done your part though?
I'll take some ibuprofen and believe in myself real hard, thanks anon.
>>5747520
I'm not sure, I've never really been in a situation like this either. It psyches me out because I've felt really close knit to these people, but I also may be naive so I'm not sure how to take anybody's actions right now. Kind of makes me miss being a NEET.
Lemme know if it helps m8, and lemme know if you get any sweet beautiful grindr ass.
gonna come out to my little brother(19) this weekend, wish me luck lads!
>>5748077
Good luck man. Hope it goes well.
>tfw you come out to your brother and then he comes out to you
well then
>>5748111
wait this has actually happened to me before as well, I came out as bi and my brother was like "haha funny you should say that, think it runs in the family?"
Rate your dysphoria on a scale of 1-10:
>vocal
>chest
>bottom
>height
>social
>hips
>thighs
>hands
>hair
>shoulders
>other (please specify)
>>5748183
>vocal
9
>chest
10
>bottom
7
>height
6
>social
8
>hips
7
>thighs
7
>hands
6
>hair
5
>shoulders
6
Don't have an other that I can think of. These also probably vary slightly depending on how I'm feeling at the time, but I'm sure that's a given with most trans people.
>>5748183
>vocal 8
>chest 12
>bottom 10
>height 5
>social 5
>hips 0
>thighs 0
>hands 0
>hair 2
>shoulders 0
>vagina 10
tgi skinny af, but still
>>5748183
>vocal
2, I've been on T for years and my voice is low but I can still sometimes hear "old me" coming through and that is very distressing when it happens
>chest
0, I'm a year post top surgery, highly recommended
>bottom
7, it varies a lot from day to day and situation to situation (it's like 15 when I'm having sex) but that's probably the average
>height
0, I'm really short but I don't care, my whole family is short and I think short men are hot
>social
1, every once in awhile I get this feel like everyone can tell I'm trans, like I'm acting weird or doing something unmanly, but I'm pretty sure it's in my head
>hips
10, these motherfuckers need to die
>thighs
4, it's mostly my hips that bother me, I'm mostly fine with having kinda thick thighs
>hands
0, they're tiny but thanks to T I like how they look now
>hair
0, I don't appreciate the fact that I'm balding but that's not dysphoria, also I have sufficient body hair now so that's not an issue
>shoulders
3, I don't really notice them day-to-day but every once in awhile I see them in the mirror and wince
tl;dr: I need to lose 15lbs, start lifting, and get bottom surgery
>>5748221
Bottom=vagina m8
>>5748244
...What's your implication here? Transguys can't have a 10 bottom dysphoria?
>>5748244
my ass and my vag give me separate grief, m8. One bleeds, one makes my pants fit stupid.
>>5748183
>vocal
5
>chest
9
>bottom
no dick/10, can't even quantify
>height
6/7 (I'm kinda resigned about it I guess, I'm short but I know shorter guys so whatever)
>social
10
>hips
10
>thighs
10
>hands
1
>hair
0 on my head
6 elsewhere, I'm not on T so it's all wispy or smooth
>shoulders
0/1
>>5748183
>vocal 10
Trying to train my voice, but being more aware of it makes things worse. Too bad i'm lispy as fuck.
>chest 9
I have fibrous tits so binding barely does anything.
>bottom 2
>height 2
5feet6.5in)
>social 7
>hips 3
>thighs 4
>hands 6
>hair 0
>shoulders 1
(shoulders much wider than hips)
>>5748183
>Rate your dysphoria on a scale of 1-10:
>>vocal - 6
>>chest - 10
>>bottom -0
>>height - 0
>>social - 0
>>hips - 1
>>thighs - 2
>>hands - 0
>>hair - 0
>>shoulders - 0
only thing I really hate are the boobs.
>>5748316
having a trans sibling is like life goals or something, you hit the jackpot friend. Except for the part where neither of you are cis...
All I really want to do is wear gay ass pastel clothes and look like a gay guy without looking like a chick.
weh.
>>5748183
>vocal
dont pay attention to my own voice much/10
>chest
7/10
>bottom
11/10
>height
see #1/10
>social
?/10
>hips
6/10
>thighs
0 my thighs are on point/10
>hands
if only i had those yaoi hands/10
>hair
5/10
>shoulders
8/10
>>5748328
You remind me of how I interpret things, I don't know if other people think of being trans this particular way.
I don't hate my body, It just causes me cognitive dissonance; the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, performs an action that is contradictory to one or more beliefs, ideas or values, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values//// I don't think my body is bad or good, it just is- however, it doesn't suit me. My brain is telling me that my body should be different than it is, and causing me identification error messages that manifest itself as dysphoria.
A good example of this difference for my is hand dysphoria. When I am not paying attention to my hands, I think they are wider and bigger than they actually are & more masculine looking.
>>5748349
yaoi hands.
>>5748383
>yaoi hands
if only... if only...
>>5748383
>>A good example of this difference for my is hand dysphoria. When I am not paying attention to my hands, I think they are wider and bigger than they actually are & more masculine looking.
I get this about my height a lot, I think I'm taller than I am. Also other parts, for example my hips and cheeks/jawline are far more masculine in my head than in reality.
Then I catch myself in the mirror and the dream is shattered lol
>>5748383
(person who you replied to, here.)
yeah I think we're on the same wavelengths. I'm not sure its dysphoria. I've been called delusional before. Because dysphoria tends to be "this doesnt fit, therefore it causes me stress" whereas what I have is more "I'm male. what even is this?" I mean... okay.. I'm straight as a whistle.. and I love love love boobs.
on one hand.... I have a pair of my own I can fondle so I dont have to go out and find someone who has boobs, but on the other hand.. I'm a dude who has boobs. My conundrum is ... do I socialize enough to really make it matter? all my friends see me as a guy and use male pronouns anyway.. so my looks dont really have any affect over my social interactions...
then again I could just not have dysphoria due to me looking androgynous as hell and I can grow a beard without being on T. and it's not fuzz. its a full beard. so... I'm not sure I can really.... count.
>>5748571
what the fuck? how can you grow a fully beard without being on T? Surely you class as more intersex than ftm
This thread needs more cowboys.
The other day some checkout guy called me partner, it was pretty great. That's one of the greatest things about passing that I wasn't expecting, all the nicknames guys have for each other. Bro, man, dude, boss, partner, brother, etc. I love it when another guy calls me brother.
According to current psychological standards, nearly anything which 'departs from the norm in a way which inhibits normal life activities' is a mental disorder, to paraphrase it poorly. If it fits certain other requirements which include severity, it's mental illness.
So by that metric, asexuality is a mental disorder. Sexual attraction is a part of normal life, the inability to have it inhibits relationships and the ability to relate to others.
Claiming that people who say they don't feel sexual attraction to others are lying to be 'special' basically brands you as a retard, though. The possibility of that is small - low gain/reward, and easily disproven if they have sex with anything when the opportunity presents itself (unless you're also claiming they also have above-average willpower in order to live a completely celibate lifestyle despite having opportunity not to, which pushes the probability up again because that's also unlikely).
Generally if there's something that inhibits or negatively affects people, and they say it is happening to them, and have the hallmarks of it happening to them, they are not lying. The human reaction is to look for blood and wounds, and, finding none, decide they are lying, though. Well known human trait, that one. It's why our surgical science is so much more advanced than our psychological science. A good example is all the people who think trans people are 'making it up'. And 'choosing' to be trans. Heh.
Minority groups being extra nasty to other minority groups who they theoretically should feel some empathy for is also a very human trait.
>>5748599
He probably just has PCOS. Not uncommon for AFAB people with PCOS to be able to grow beards.
>>5748599
I'm not actually sure. I havent visited a medical professional, but I have no other symptoms of PCOS. I might actually be intersexed, as I basically hit male puberty in jr. high well after I hit female. I stopped developing at that point too though. but I have periods and appear normally female. so.. idk. I'm kinda scared of getting checked up on because I really dont want to go on *any* hormones.
>>5748183
>vocal
9
>chest
9
>bottom
9
>height
8
>social
8
>hips
10
>thighs
11
>hands
5
>hair
6
>shoulders
7
>other (please specify)
>face
∞
I probably have body dysmorphic disorder separate from gender dysphoria, but I fucking hate my face. I've never been able to figure out exactly what's wrong with it (aside from the fact that I desperately need ear pinning surgery), but it's awful. Too bad T doesn't fix ugly, and I can't afford cosmetic surgery.
I'm hoping some of those other values will go down the longer I'm on T. It's only been about two months now, and I haven't seen many physical changes.
>>5748654
are your ears lower down your head compared to other people? sorry, curious if it's related to fetal alcohol syndrome.
>>5748313
"Bottom" dysphoria is a pretty fucking universally agreed upon term when it comes to that shit. You're just looking for things to bitch and complain about. Fuck off.
NO transguy (or transgirl, for that matter) thinks about their goddamn asshole when they think "bottom" dysphoria. You're just being a difficult shit head.
How dangerous is binding with some bandages just for one day?
>>5748692
wow. you're daft. they're not talking about their asshole, asshole. they're talking about the big female booty that makes you have to wear girl pants.
>>5748662
Nah, they just stick out too much. If I push them back so they're closer to my head, I look a bit more human. My mom has never been a drinker, so I have no excuse. I'm crossing my fingers that maybe facial hair will improve things a bit. Ear pinning surgery isn't very expensive, so maybe I'll end up saving up for it someday.
Look at all the ugly actors in Hollywood, though. I try to tell myself that, if we live in a world where Danny DeVito can become famous, I should be able to do OK. The crippling insecurity is the bigger problem.
>>5748707
Are you fucking stupid dude? He clearly differentiated the two. Wew.
>>5748717
I know a trans guy with ears that stick out a LOT who is beyond hot despite it. I want that azz so bad. And yeah, his facial hair is a big part of it. So there is definitely still hope anon.
>>5748778
Well, thanks. I'm not giving up yet, I'm just...not being overly optimistic. And, honestly, I'd rather be an ugly guy than an ugly woman.
>>5748764
I'm sorry but you just dont make any sense.
>>5748183
>vocal -10
>chest -10
>bottom - 6
>height -2 (i'm short as fuck, but i've pretty much just accepted it, being taller would be nice though)
>social - 5
>hips - 2 (don't really have any)
>thighs -2 (don't really have any)
>hands - 3 (don't really think about it, but i guess when i do...)
>hair - 0
>shoulders - 2 (they're wider than my hips and whatnot, but i'm just generally small to begin with... cuz kid sized adult...)
Is it normal for trans people to get nervous and scared of relationships? Only asking you guys because I'm dating a transguy in particular and he seems very anxious a lot, no matter what I say. I think I'm in love with him but he seems to have a lot of issues I can't help, but I want to be there for him. I don't plan to leave.
Fuck.
>>5748183
Pre-t 19/straight ftm
>>vocal-5
my voice passes if i talk with no emotion and no vocal infliction, but i don't talk much, just because i hate hearing the way my voice sounds if i don't control it
>>chest-1
my chest is non existent, i still gave it a point because no top surgery/no resizing
>>bottom-suicide/10
science pls gib dick, my life has no purpose
>>height-8
5'8 prince of manlets, could be worse, i would've been 6'3 at least had i not been born defective
>>social-10
i'm embarrassed to be seen in public
>>hips-0
non existent
>>thighs-0
non existent
>>hands-9
i have smaller hands then some 5'0 females i've met
>>hair-3
thick brows master race, wish i could grow sideburns
>>shoulders-0
they're broad, can't complain
>>5749450
>>>hips-0
>non existent
>>>thighs-0
>non existent
poastpics
>>5749474
just don't be fat mong
>tfw money would solve almost every problem in your life
>>5748183
>>vocal
8
>>chest
10
>>bottom
8
>>height
6
>>social
2
>>hips
0(blessed perfect man hips)
>>thighs
0
>>hands
2
>>hair
0 (unless its facial hair, then 5ish)
>>shoulders
0
>>other (please specify)
I have no ass. I could give Hank Hill a run for his money.
>>5749526
I think I'd have to have <10% body fat to not be hippy. I had hips even when I was rail thin in high school. Even skinny AFAB people can have hips, it has more to do with bone structure and fat distribution than how much fat you actually have on your body
>>5749462
just my build...
i'm not built particularly feminine, like there's just not much of a difference between my hips and waist (less than 5') and my shoulders are a bit wider than my hips... my thighs just aren't big either, it's why i can fit into boy's pants no problem (they actually fit my body shape), and i don't really have an ass, but like to the point where if i sit on my s/o's lap wrong he bitches about it being bony and hurting him...
and like i see a lot of transgirls bitch about their ribs like it clocks them instantly, but mine stick out a fucking lot... like really visible, it's kinda gross
so yeah it's just a matter of not having a particularly feminine body shape...
>>5749526
nah my mom is underweight and she's still pear shaped, not like an extreme pear shape where someone looks like 2 people sewn together, but still... it's all body shape/type
i'm sure for some people weight makes a bit of a difference, but in most cases that's probably not it...
>>5749638
>boy's pants
oh man
>>5749650
yeah i'm a size 12 in boy's... regular or slim fit depending on the cut... i'm short as fuck and shit too, like i said before... kid sized adult... me shopping consists of trying to find shirts that don't have fire trucks or fake sports teams etc on them, or ordering clothes from asia...it sucks cuz it's really limiting
>>5749638
5"s* my bad
>>5749526
Now this is inspiration. My hips and thighs make me feel so fucking bulbous, it's horrible. Wonder if I can figure out a way to fix my laptop to my mom's treadmill...
>uniqlo sale online
>buy men's clothes and rationalise it to my sister that they're basically the same but cheaper
>they arrive
>fits chest with binder on
>can't do the last button without pulling the material due to hips
>emphasises hips
>kill me
Does working out reduce that? Does going on T make a difference?
>>5749844
T isn't going to make your hip bones shrink or change shape, but losing weight will obviously help with fat. T will help with fat redistribution though.
>>5749844
are you overweight?
>>5748183
>vocal
7-8
>chest
100000000
>bottom
0-5. sometimes i don't care but other times i'm like "man it would be really nice if i had a dick." i'll never have a real one, though, so i won't be going after any sort of bottom surgery. that shit seems scary as fuck.
>height
8. i'm fucking 5' tall
>social
2.
i don't leave the house enough to get gendered as female
>hips
7
>thighs
>7
>hands
5
>hair
10
>shoulders
6
they vary with how i'm feeling at the time, but, that's probably for all trans people.
>>5749526
Where did you get those jeans
>>5748183
>vocal
9/10
>chest
11/10
>bottom
7/10
>height
7/10
>social
8/10
>hips
9/10
>thighs
9/10
>hands
3/10
>hair
5/10
>shoulders
4/10
Losing a little bit more weight would likely help with some of these.
>looking into sex toys
>obviously any designed for men are basically useless
>any designed for women give me fucking endless shame and dysphoria for even considering
Kill me.
>>5750144
Dudes buy dildos too man
>>5750144
They make ftm sex toys for guys on t
>>5750177
Well I'm not on T...yet.
I guess it was more looking into LDR sex toys I can use with my girlfriend when she moves next semester. They're all designed for men and women to use together with apps and shit. It's so frustratingly upsetting.
Why don't I have a dick.
>>5750011
They're abercrombie and fitch skinny jeans 30x32
>>5748183
>vocal
6
I have barely passing tween boy voice, but am cursed with a shitty timbre which I don't think T can fix.
>chest
8
>bottom
2
I could get laid more if I had a dick...
>social
3
>hips
8
Fuck this pelvis.
>thighs
4
>hands
0
My hands are small but I really like them.
>hair
0
I just started T and I'm fine ending up with any amount of hair as long as it's appreciably more than what I started with.
>feet
4
What the fuck is the deal with small feet? How come I keep my balance standing on these pins? How can I walk?
>>5750236
>LDR
Don't bother buying some expensive sex toy so you can pretend to be diddled by your gf. If you two really loved each other you'd find a way to make sure you weren't in a LDR, don't waste your money on a relationship that's going to break apart in a few months.
>>5748637
>PCOS
>frequent obvious hairs on chin, jawline and neck
>oh shit i'll just pull them out
>tfw trichotillomania
>>5750355
top kek
Don't be salty because you're alone, buddy.
>>5750177
>imagine having T pseudo-dick
>increased sex drive
>jacking off would be easier and more satisfying because it's currently lame as hell
>could get one of those sleeve things
>would be so proud of a couple inches, no one would have to know
>"nah I'm probably not trans, it's fine h a h a h a h a"
>>5750839
this was me a couple of years ago
might want to look into that, bud
>>5751170
I'm dragging myself out of denial kicking and screaming. Sometimes I'll have a train of thought that has me wondering who the hell I'm kidding.
Do you guys look down on girls who transition because of internalized misogyny the same way mtfs look down on people who transition for a fetish?
I'm not saying that's why you transitioned, just curious because I definitely think it happens.
>>5749526
>>5749609
Just fucking kill me now. I used to look like that. I have to be at BMI <14 in order for my thighs not to touch. Now, I look fat as fuck at 5'4" and ~100 lbs. I maintained at <80 lbs. for so long that I think I permanently fucked up my body, though. I can't sleep anymore, so I'm often up (and hungry) close to 24 hours a day. I can't control my appetite, so I try to lose weight now and I just get so ravenously hungry and weak that I feel like I'll die if I don't eat something. I never thought I'd be the fat fuck who couldn't lose weight, but here I am. My dysphoria would be so much less if I could just lose 15-20 pounds. Seeing that picture, though, fuck, I'm going to redouble my efforts. No more buying food.
>>5751315
>internalized misogyny
>>5751332
I'm just saying I definitely see this on tumblr and in the trans group I go to. I wouldn't say it describes the average trans guy, but there are some who are clearly just girls who want to be ~different~
>>5751331
Anon, you have an eating disorder, or some kind of body dysmorphia, because there is no way you're "fat as fuck" at 5'4" and 100lbs. You don't need to stop eating, you need to get help.
>>5751315
>>5751350
I don't think most of the people this applies to actually go so far as to transition. In my experience they tend to stop short of anything permanent or serious. They might put their pronouns on their blog and go by a new name online and cut their hair but I think it's pretty rare for the special snowflake types to actually transition.
>>5751378
I definitely see them getting on T at my school group though.
>>5751386
well, if they stay on t long term and find it improves their quality of life they are probably trans imo
>>5751350
You can usually tell those apart from the real trannies, because all of their dysphoria is social
>>5751331
Just go hclf vegan and do cardio everday
you can eat as much as you want then
>>5751393
How do you feel about trans guys who start trying to present male and telling everybody they're trans before they're passable?
>>5751415
well i had to do that to get on testosterone because i live in britbongistan so i dunno
don't really care how other people manage their transition to be honest, it's their life, their body, not mine
>>5751415
Haven't we already had this conversation in this thread, or the last thread... give it a break.
>>5751428
I ask cause one of them was talking about being physically and sexually assaulted by transphobic people who I guess they told were trans, and I suggested that they could maybe be a bit less open about being trans until they passed and got told I was victim blaming
>>5749366
In my personal experience, I tend to be really anxious and require some reassurance, even though I've been dating my cis bf for 2 years or so. Part of it stems from a misunderstanding when we first started hanging out where I thought his attraction was split like 90% girls/10% dudes, which isnt the case. Even now, after I've talked it through with him and he's been nothing but reassuring and supportive and incredible, it's still a worry that creeps up on me from time to time. Especially when I think about starting T. Is he still gonna like me after my body changes? Is he still gonna be attracted to me? Etc etc.
It's a valid worry imo, but it's also based in anxiety and dysphoria.
Just be patient with him and make sure you talk to him. Everybody is different and nuanced. Communication about this kind of circumstance is really key, you gotta know where he's coming from and you need him to know where you're coming from.
>>5751415
>start trying to present male and telling everybody they're trans before they're passable
doesn't everyone do this? i've been doing this since childhood
>>5751460
It's just not really common for trans women, who are often on HRT for months or years before they even come out to anyone.
Just seems like a bizarre issue to complain about to me.
>Sitting at house talking to mom
>Tell her about some dumb thing, Problem 1.
>Five minutes later elabolate on Problem 1 and how it changed into something new I'm calling Problem 1.5
>"B-but what happened to Problem 1," - my Mom
>Explain, again how problem 1 has now changed into problem 1.5
>"But you said earlier you had THIS problem (Problem 1)"
>Tell her she's not listening to me
>"NO, you're not listening TO ME"
FUCK YOU TOO MOM. WE HAVE THIS SAME ARGUMENT OVER WHO'S NOT LISTENING TO WHO LITERALLY EVERY MONTH. AND THE WORST PART IS ITS ALWAYS ABOUT NOTHING IMPORTANT JUST STUPID CRAP.
>>5751460
Definitely not. As a kid I was a tomboy but I didn't think I was a boy or tell people to treat me like a boy. As an adult I was really butch but I didn't come out or ask people to use my new name and pronouns until I was sure I could pass at least some of the time.
>>5751514
Yeah this is how most trans women who aren't crazy do it.
I mean I guess there's nothing wrong with being open about it if that works for you, but if it's causing serious problems I don't get what's wrong with doing this until you can pass. They got upset at me for suggesting that though.
>>5751517
i mean being out isn't the same as asking for physical assault
like i can sort of see their point about the victim blaming thing
>>5751526
Yeah I get that and I tried to clarify that it wasn't their fault, but all I was saying is it might be a good idea to be cautious about who you tell you're trans if it's causing trouble.
I mean this is just such a basic thing for trans women that I really don't understand why anyone would have such a big problem with it, we're all well aware how stupid it would be to go around telling strangers and people we barely know that we're trannies if we don't have to.
>>5751362
I don't know what to say...I'm really flabby despite lifting, my thighs squish together, etc. I'm used to being really underweight; I used to be straight up and down, and now (as of like 9 months ago), I'm a gross pear. I'm fine from the bellybutton up but from there down is a nightmare
>>5751410
I don't know what health/nutrition advice to take, everyone says something different...I mean, obviously eating fewer calories and exercising more is good, but I don't know what/how the fuck to eat
Completely theoretically, if someone had the money and they went into a clinic and asked for liposuction or a similar procedure, would they be turned away if they weren't overweight? Or do plastic surgeons just do whatever you pay them to do, generally? I don't know how that shit works
>>5751542
Having squishy thighs or a pear-shaped lower body doesn't mean you're "fat as fuck," it just means you're AFAB. If you're already only 100lbs, losing weight is probably not going to solve your issue. Are you on T?
>>5751542
Are you on t? If not when you will be if you loose the weight it will probably be redistributed to a more male location. If you already are and still have giant thighs there is such a thing as "male contouring/liposuction" as a cosmetic procedure, but will be expensive and the results are only temporary as opposed to just doing squats or something.
>>5751514
I guess it depends how well you pass before hormones
>>5751315
i don't give a shit about what other people do or why they do it... it's their body, and if they're happy then that's fine... i don't really get why someone without dysphoria would transition, but whatever...
>>5751315
I don't think that's a primary reason tbqh, though there are def misogynistic trans guys (same as there are misogynistic anybodies, but yeah still).
It was legit one of my worries that I just wanted to transition because I hated women on a deep, subconscious level and that that was why I hated being a girl.
I'm out of the trenches now and that was just one more stupid way I was afraid people would "explain me" instead of letting their bubbles burst. And they did and they do, which is really insulting but fuck them. People will do what they do.
>>5751559
>>5751580
I just started T, so I'm trying to tell myself that things will get better if I give it time. The cosmetic surgery thing is a pipe dream (and a lazy solution), but my "feminine fat distribution" is the thing that bothers me the most about my body.
Sorry guys, I'm at peak body hatred right now. I've been holed up in my apartment for days feeling like I can't even go outside because of my disgusting body (and face). Instead of sitting here and whining, I'm going to go exercise.
>>5751542
you probably fucked up your metabolism/thyroid by restricting
you can't control your appetite because your body is starving. you should probably eat a plant based diet, and eat as much fruits and vegetables/carbs(rice,potatoes,oatmeal) and fish as you can, with no calorie limit.
and limit meat,eggs,dairy,cake,pizza, added sugar, processed food
its extremely hard to over eat on vegetables, and you'll be getting adequate nutrition, so you wont binge
How do I into T? Can anyone redpill me?
>>5751856
How do you mean?
>>5751893
How do I get it and side effects/potential risks?
Any way to get it outside a doctor's note? My doc is a conservative muslim, so a no go.
>>5751956
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hormone_replacement_therapy_%28female-to-male%29
good luck getting it not from a doc, it's rather a controlled substance
try another doctor
>>5751969
Thanks.
Yeah.. the only other doctor alternative is a fundamentalist christian. I need to move far away from here.
>tfw mustache coming in, no other facial hair, face still round and girly as fuck
this is not a good look
>>5752024
I know that feel :/
>>5752024
>tfw macho face and square body
>not a fucking hair in sight
Oh well
>>5751989
Ask the muslim first, then the christian. You never know with conservatives they're like a wild card they're either completely okay with trans or 100% against it. Personally I think that's pretty good, I just hate the self proclaimed liberals who are so wishy-washy and passive aggressive about anything trans.
Don't go diy with hormones, especially testosterone since it's going to be a lot of "concoctions" for body builders, it's a controlled substance which means that no legitimate places will sell it and if you do find some hormones you have no idea what it actually is, that's one sure way to fuck your shit up. You're better off moving or driving out of state for your appointments.
Also, you should really check for more doctors in your area because there has to be more than two. This is also where telling your primary care doctor would be a good thing because even if he judges you hard for being trans he should still be able to refer you to someone who does hormones,
>>5752045
It's awkward, I'm not sure if I should be shaving or what
>>5752059
Let's trade
Looking at my male relatives, I'm guessing I'm going to get pretty hairy. I aspire to someday grow a beard as glorious as my father's (before he started shaving because my mom is a controlling bitch). I got his jewfro when I cut my hair short, so here's hoping
If one were unable to stay on T due to health issues, they wouldn't be able to get their ovaries and shit taken out still, would they? Because they'd need some kind of a hormone pumping through them still or something, right?
I don't think I could fucking handle living the rest of my life with shark week on top of all the other shit.
Sorry if I sound like a retard about this. I never expected for it to be an issue so I don't know much about that side of it all.
>>5752889
Generally, in my understanding, after a hysterectomy and oophorectomy, you should be on HRT, either with estrogen and/or progesterone or with testosterone. If you don't take hormones, your bones can suffer, and you have an increased risk of some types of cancer.
>>5752828
I shave it. Otherwise I just look awful. I'm slowly getting more hair in on my chin and in the side burn area. I'm almost 8 months on T.
>>5742630
>https://strawpoll.me/6848032
>bisexual is most popular
SQUAAAAAAAAAD
>>5752959
That's really not shocking at all. Bisexuals are pretty fucking common in general on 4chan.
>>5752889
If you can't/don't want to stay on T permanently but don't want to deal with shark week you can have a hysterectomy without an oophorectomy, i.e. you get rid of the uterus but keep your ovaries. This is actually quite common.
>>5751517
>Yeah this is how most trans women who aren't crazy do it.
I know someone who's mtf and has come out to all her friends yet as far as actually transitioning goes has done absolutely nothing. And it's been like a year and half. When I ask why that is she says she doesn't get much body dysphoria. Doubting she's actually trans really.
>>5753276
wat
Literally what's even the point in putting yourself through that shit then.
>>5753432
Eh, I think she's just really confused and has some other mental health issues. But I suppose time will tell.
>vocal
7
The thing that bothered me most, weirdly, but it's dropping fast.
>chest
8
Boy howdy if I could just never have to look at them again.
>bottom
5
ech.
I am resigned, and at least know how to make it feel good.
>height
1
I'm 5'9" in a city full of shorties, I'm good.
>social
9
What the fuck am I doing oh god how many unspoken rules am I breaking fuck fuck fuck
>hips
9
Kill me
>thighs
1 Less dysphoria, more fat issues. They're okay I guess.
>hands
6
Stupid long nail beds make 'em look kinda femme.
>hair
5, It's starting to come in across my chest a little bit, spreading and darkening everywhere else, so I'm optimistic about it. Even have itty bitty scruff coming in under my jawline.
>shoulders
1
Granny had linebacker shoulders, so they're bretty gud.
>>5751514
Not to go off topic but people post pictures of cowboys on tumblr?
All I see is pictures of anime, video games, cartoons, gay porn, and nerds being assholes to each other for whatever reason so I thought it was just all that plus British shit.
>>5754156
You can find a blog for anything on tumblr desu. That particular photo I found on a blog about "cowboy life" or whatever. Honestly tho a lot of these I got from gay cowboy porn blogs that also occasionally post not-porn photos of cowboys. Just google "hot cowboys" or something and you get a ton of them.
>>5744316
Men's 9.5 US
Big feet in the family
