20 M gay
Just started PreP two days ago. AMA.
Only 3 days to bareback. Good going bro. How many loads are you going to take to celebrate.
>>5707037
I don't plan on taking loads anytime soon...i think.
>>5706983
Man I'm scared of aids... Last year I had sex with 8 guys bareback, 6 came inside me... Most from grindr.... What jack shit have I done... I always asked for condoms but the bastards... The bastards always complained....
Man I'm scared. I can't even get tested right now because my last unsafe contact was like one week ago. How long do I have to wait? I should have taken prep... Does it really prevents aids like birth control pills prevent pregnancies? Or it's not that effective?
>>5706983
y u aids doe?
>>5706983
Sorry dude but i'm gonna use your thread to ask a simple question that doesn't deserve its own thread...
Does sucking a dick after that dick has been to your asshole barrback may get your throat infected and sick? Like, cause of the shit particles in the dick?
My enemas are so well done that I mostly haven't got a problem in sucking a dick after it penetrates me. But now I got a throat infection, and I wonder if that might be it.
>>5707068
Me too... I lost my virginity in 2013. Since than i had bareback sex with 12 guys, 8 came inside. Also swallowed loads of 4 different guys... Never got tested... Most guys were hookups from apps or bars...
Am I fucked? What are the chances I have aids?
>>5707068
You can get an RNA test for HIV within 10 days of exposure. Do you have any flu-like symptons? And if you have unprotected sex with someone of an unknown status then i would advise you go to your hcp and ask for PEP within 72hours of exposure.
>>5707068
And yes studies have shown that taking PReP everyday has a 92%-99% chance of preventing hiv infection.
>>5707072
I do not have aids, or any other sti's. Never have.
>>5707109
Lol k
>>5707088
You possibly have a bacterial infection. But you can get ghonorrea of the throat so you should get tested for that.
>>5707088
NAD, but its doubtful that flora from your ass could get you sick. More likely that you just got sick from, you know, normal reasons. If your sick, see a doctor? Worst case, its an STD you got from him, but if you both have been tested...
>>5707097
It's too late for PEP. I'm gonna get tested this monday but I'm so fucking frightened to know the truth... I've been getting sick with more frequency... My only hope is that my extremely unhealthy habits are causing a low in my imunity. I'm pratically alcoholic by now, have been partying hard a lot this carnival and summer (it's summer where I live) haven't being getting any worthwhile sleep, being drugging myself like crazy, i have an eating disorder and I just never stop working out even when hungover, which further depletes my imuno. It's my only hope that those are the reasons I'm getting like, a flu or a sore throat every fucking month.
I wish I could say I'm ready to be teated positive, but I'm fucking not... I'm terrified... Fuck.... FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>5707291
My ex is positive and has to take like 2 pills everyday. He is also undetectable which is what you would want. And fyi a person who is 20 today and got hiv would be able to live to be about 75-80 if they take their medication properly.
>>5707088
Am a doctor. It shouldn't make you sick normally to eat your own poo, but if you're getting throat fucked and not just giving head, it could cause microtears and give bugs that should stay in your GI tract access to your blood.
But don't be a stupid slut and go ass to mouth, that's nasty.
>>5707346
How does it feel to be a doctor? To be rich? How did you achieve such high position in social hierarchy?
>>5707068
You won't get aids, don't worry. You may get HIV, but that's no worse than a cold and your body makes its own vaccine and cure for it. Just don't take the medicine the doctors try to give you, that's what gives you aids.
>>5707729
Wut?
Nigga you serious?
>>5707967
If you look at the science it is impossible for HIV to turn into aids. First of all it completely goes against Koch's postulates. The reality is that HIV is completely harmless and the medicines cause AIDS in order to get more money out of people. That's why even though there is a definitive cure for aids they only give you mesicine that you must take for the rest of your life. It's all about getting more money.
>>5707531
He went to medschool that's how. Fucking dumbass. Do you think a doctorate just fell out of the sky and chose him to succeed? He earned it.
>>5708307
I love trolling. But there is a place and time for it.
You are giving bogus advise that might kill somebody.
HIV CAUSES AIDS
>>5708692
I am not trolling.
Scientists have been saying for a very long time now that they don't think the two are related but governments won't listen.
Wake up and educate yourself. http://www.duesberg.com/papers/ch2.html
>>5708739
i'm not going to quote the wikipedia article because you'd probably refute it by discrediting the source. I am going to provide a much more compelling anecdotical evidence.
You probably hasn't seen much of aids in your life time. My mom works at a special kind of hospital here where we live. Dr. Clementino Fraga, for infectious transmissible diseases. In all my state It's the go-to hospital for aids, tuberculosis, and leprosy, because such patients were often rejected at ordinary hospitals for been too "comtagious". But more than half of the patients suffer from aids. So basically it's a hiv hospital. That provided me a nice view on the disease throughout my life. Enough to see the destructive effects of hiv. The most common thing there is what they call "returnent". Patients who left the treatment behind for a variety of reasons, only to fall back in illness months later and quickly decay. She lost many patients like this. So I raise you a challange. In case you contract Hiv, don't take the cocktail. Don't take any medicine at all and see what happens.
How do you conspiracionists explain the high rate if mortality from hiv back in the 70's 80's before the antiretrovirals?
>>5708739
>1884
> These postulates were generated prior to understanding of modern concepts in microbial pathogenesis that cannot be examined using Koch's postulates, including viruses (which are obligate cellular parasites) or asymptomatic carriers. They have largely been supplanted by other criteria such as the Bradford Hill criteria for infectious disease causality in modern public health.
>>5708692
HIV isn't real dude
>>5707291
>carnival and summer
Argentina?
>>5710279
I won't be taking the medicine. I haven't even been to a doctor in years, I take care of myself.
It is pretty unlikely I will get aids though, because I am not a filthy degenerate. I am still a virgin, and when I have my first sex it will be with another virgin. Sleeping around is bad.
>>5710290
How do you explain the rest of the arguments then? How do you explain that there have been people that lived there whole life with HIV and no aids or medical treatment, while some cases of aids the person never had HIV? How do you explain that we know HIV has been around for thousands of years but only recently started turning into aids in the last 50? How do you explain the fact that it's only mainly prevalent in two places, America and Africa? How do you explain it targeting specific groups of people, mainly Homos and druggies?
>>5710407
Close. Brazil.
>>5711402
> i am still a virgin
Gee I wonder why...
>>5711402
I will have to ask source on all of those claims. One that doesn't revolve those Kenia's prostitutes in 99's that were imune to hiv but later in life contracted the disease because the imunity recquired constant exposure. Also aids and Hiv is a big fucking deal in south america too bb. 1 in every 10 gays has the disease here, and 4 in every 1000 straights have it too. Numerically more straight people have aids then gays. In proportion with their demographic density, that is, in percentages, gays have far more and lesbians have the least from all numbers.
>>5712502
I am still a virgin because I can't find someone I can actually stand long enough to date. I would like to keep the my number of partners to a minimum.
"Hook ups" are wrong. Ideally you should wait for marriage, but definitely no less than 3 months of dating. If you can't wait at least 3 months, have sex with someone when both of you aren't 100 percent committed to each other or have partners in the double digits, you are nothing but a filthy degenerate and are what's wrong with this generation. The openness of sexuality and the glorification of sluttiness has got to end. There is absolutely nothing to be proud about being a dirty whore.
>>5712525
> i can't find someone I can stand
Or someone that could stand you, more likely.
>>5711402
>And here, children, we can see a rare species - the conspiracy theorist
>these wondrous creatures have carved out a niche for themselves in the ecosystem using the most unlikely of skills, cognitive dissonance
>here, look closer!
>we can see the conspiracy theorist scavenging for anecdotes just underneath that mountain of scientific evidence over there
>a social creature, these animals owe their existence to the support of their own kind.
>indeed, their mating rituals involve highly structured exchanges of stories ranging from the moon landing to vaccines causing autism
>however, they are indeed endangered, as in this modern era information is becoming more readily available than ever before
>this is looked upon as a positive by some leading ecologists, as they are indirectly responsibile for anyone who is harmed by their claims
>but, the consensus seems to be to let them die off in their own time, as anyone they take with them probably deserves it
>>5712525
>saves "purity" for a long time until the "perfect" one appears
>sex sucks
It's a terrible idea to hold out for so long. Sex is an important of not the most important component to a healthy relationship.
>>5706983
How old are you? What is your age? What is your sex? Do you take any meds to prevent AIDS? If so, what? And, for how long?
>>5712654
It's fine to not wait until marriage, but you should at least wait 3 months. I believe just jumping into bed is wrong, you should have a stronger emotional connection to someone and make sure you're both fully committed to just each other. Commitment and emotional connection is also important for a healthy relationship.
>>5712701
>you should have a stronger emotional connection to someone
You know early on whether it's a waste of time or not.
Three months?! These aren't the Dark Ages man.
The worst is developing feelings and having the sex be terrible.
>>5713270
You don't know early on. You need to get to know someone. Relationships do not have to revolve around sex, it's supposed to be more than that. But hey, these are just my morals and ideals, you do you.
>>5713690
>You don't know early on.
Love at first sight. Never happened to you?
I have experienced it only once. It's like my body wasn't my own anymore.
>>5714103
No, I have never fell in love at first site and I do not believe in love at first site. I've been highly attracted to people, but not in love. Love is more than looks, how can you be in love with someone you know nothing about?
>>5714145
>how can you be in love with someone you know nothing about?
I don't know. Never felt like that about any other guy in my whole life.
Weirdest experience I've ever had.
Shortness of breath every time he was near. Heart literally skipping beats. My ears were glowing and felt scorching to the touch and more such irregularities.
It was a different kind of feeling of being in love. As there are many variants.
>>5714421
Sounds like just being highly attracted to me, not in love.
>>5706983
how much does it cost you?
>>5717477
I don't pay anything.
>tfw no prep until 2017
Thanks NHS
>>5717575
i'd like to get PreP but dont know what it would cost...
>>5707055
then whats the point
>>5706983
I just did my blood work last week. Going back a week from Monday for the perscription.
>>5721830
>whats the point
do you people even realize how hard that shit is on your liver? there may be other side effects and long term consequences. unless you are a porn star who has to take loads and not use rubbers, why are you even on it?
just act responsibly and don't let everyone cum in your ass. is that so difficult?
>>5722096
This is a miracle drug that could END the HIV epidemic in our lifetime if it was openly available and people got serious.
I'd take a risk of complication over HIV every time.
And I imagine plenty of people who are on PrEP are only there because they recognized that there's a significant chance they'd end up with HIV otherwise.
>>5706983
Do you have your own insurance? Where u from?
Prep is the new cancer of the gay community.
1) More unprotected sex
2) More partners
3) More random partners w/ high risk of exposure (Grindr &Co).
4) Test have shown being on Prep "protects" you. Sure, enjoy your resistant HIV-stem.
5) Enjoy the many other IST the world has to offer.
It sure is tempting. But being the guinea pig has never been my thing. And I'm the kind of top who lose it when he has to wear a condom. But you gotta do what you gotta do to stay clean man.
>>5724673
You're the new gay cancer, asshat. Discouraging people from getting PrEP is a terribly mean, elitist thing to do.
First, give me one example of PrEP leading to catching a drug-resistant strain of HIV. Maybe you should ditch that tin-foil hat.
>>5707291
This is literally me right now
I've had unprotected sex about 5 times and it's been over a year since I last did it. Since then I've used condoms every time but I am so fucking afraid to get tested that I procrastinate like crazy. "Just in case it's bad news, I'll go after my birthday, after Christmas, I'm doing good at work right now don't really want to spoil that, etc." list goes on and on. I'm literally too fucking afraid to get tested.
are you enjoying the side effects and the prostate swelling that will eventually lead to cancer?
>>5727889
Summary Statistics
Reports of TRUVADA causing PROSTATE CANCER: 2
Reports of any side effect of TRUVADA : 10774
Percentage of TRUVADA patients where PROSTATE CANCER is a reported side effect: 0.0186%
FDA reports of any drug causing PROSTATE CANCER : 5751
Average percentage for all medicated patients where PROSTATE CANCER is reported as a complication: 0.0360%
Real convincing there champ.
>>5728057
>drug causes cancer in clinical trials
YA BUT MORE CANCER HAPPENS TO THE POPULATION NOT TAKING THE CLINICAL TRIAL
Jesus Christ, you belong in /sci/
>>5707088
unlikely these are related
>ama
..no one is going to say get out reddit?
You fucking kidding me?
Fucking hell /lgbt/ is trash
>>5728468
I-is that supposed to be disparaging?
>>5706983
>be me
>Excited for truvada
>take it
>get intense stomach pain
>ER
>they arent sure what the problem is
>even the truvada specialist thinks its weird that truvada is making me bedridden for a week
>Try to cure other possible problems
>Still end up with inflamed bowels
it sucks. its been about a year now and i cant use it.
>>5727682
Mean, elitist ? In what world ?
What do you want boy ? A healthy, both physically and mentaly, sex life or do you want to stay a whore your whole life ? Do you want to define your whole life by sex ? Do you watch so much porn you can't get it hard wearing a rubber ? What's your excuse for taking a drug in order to have unprotected sex ? tell me.
When I'm reading /lgbt i really feel like we should have a revival of eugenistic policy.
>>5706983
What does it cost? By this, I mean two things. What does it cost you, personally, and what if any of that is defrayed by insurance/etc.
Any conflicting health concerns before taking a regimen? Specifically, what kinds of questions did you get from doctors etc, /apart/ from sex life?
I'm going to be rude, because there's no nice way of saying it: I'm not expecting quality answers, because most (not all!) 20 year olds don't know anything about anything. Still, you're the one actually doing it, and I'm not, so there's that too.
>>5730504
Good motivation to not be a slut.
>>5728683
There have been AMA threads on 4chan for as long as this place has been around.
