Femgen FAQ:
▶What is a fem guy?
A young, androgynous guy with soft features. Mostly gay, but not all.
▶Are fem guys trans?
Some inevitably turn out trans. Some age into twunkhood and continue slutting it up on Grindr well past their mid twenties.
▶Can I be a fem guy?
Often with enough effort, yes. Masculine bone structure, height, and aging make it hard.
▶Should I go on HRT?
If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
▶Is liking fem guys considered gay or straight?
Gay. If you're on the fence, you're bi, like a lot of people.
▶Beginner makeup resources: https://masterposter.tumblr.com/post/116605714860
See also: /r/makeupaddiction
▶Skincare resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/wiki/index
▶Hair care resources: https://www.reddit.com/r/haircarescience/wiki/index
See also: /r/fancyfollicles
▶/Femgen/ Skype Group: Post your Skype, and someone from the group will add you.
Please don't join if you're masc or trans.
Old Thread: >>5670278
>>5698614
>Please don't join if you're [...] trans.
but what if im a guy that takes hormones and i want to be treated like a girl and look like a girl BUT im not trans because i say so
>>5698487
>plucking out beard hair
fucking ow
>>5698592
Oh my god your hair is fucking beautiful. Extreme swoon right now. My goes down to where the bottom of your hand is in that pic but I want it longer like yours ;-;
How many of you guys have you ears pierced? If so, what are your favourite earrings to wear? Mine are these swarovski crystal studs [see pic].
>>5698641
>treated like a girl
faggot, you a tranny
>>5698730
yuck as in you don't like earrings at all or just those ones?
>>5698745
yeah and not practicing a fake voice is a major one there too
>>5698790
all earrings
>>5698614
hi
OP pic already went fulltrans and got huge implants btw
>>5698680
I do. Those are nice. I have a black triangle one
>>5698856
so did andrej
you're noticing the pattern right
>>5698856
what a shame. so much hotter as a guy
>>5698813
I think they look a lot better on guys with long long hair tbqh. guys with short hair and earrings often just look like they're in high school to me :/
>>5698886
some people are trans, so what?
there are plenty of gens for mtfs
>>5698936
is only joke friend
![2c94cc0bormation-29[1].jpg_w=500&h=307.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/tcXpNBN.jpg "2c94cc0bormation-29[1].jpg_w=500&h=307.jpg")
>>5698911
it was kinda obvious with Stas even if you look at childhood photos
>>5698922
ehhhh
i don't like them on girls or guys or anything in between
>thread immediately starts off with memeposting
can you guys just... not
Why do you guys hate trans ppl? Aren't most of you just trans in denial/hiding? Being fem and being a man don't correlate that much, eventually time is going to catch up with you and you're going to wake up and look like a lumberjack.
Isn't better just to become a girl?
>>5699273
femgen is a lot less anti-trans than it used to be
>>5699273
We don't hate trans people. What we do hate is constantly being told we're trans or trans-in-denial because we're not. Trans women do not identify as men and do not like addressed with male pronouns. There are some things that are typically associated with women that we like and are part of us, but we don't want to become women. We like being men. Whether or not we're "man enough" for others is not our problem.
>>5698614
>>5698809
>>5698614
Cheating nature with hormone pills doesn't make you trans.
Some people just roid to win, get over it.
>>5699314
Preach. Also Stav... oh my gorsh [insert generic fem4fem line]
>>5699314
who is this and why aren't they in the skype group with us
>>5699299
What specifically do you like about being men?
>>5699419
i'll level with you.
there's not much of a difference between us and women. we've bent ourselves toward the middle for varying personal reasons.
i enjoy feeling sexually desired by men, and the confidence boost from having a clean body. going fem is also a great way to distinguish yourself from other gays/straights and makes finding relationships/sex easier.
when i get older i might go trans, i might go masc, i don't really know, but being a young fem guy seems better than both of those choices.
>>5699419
Can't speak for everyone, but here are a few things. I like my name, my voice, my dick, my body/frame etc. and like being someone's son, brother, boyfriend, nephew and so on.
can anyone recommend any good hair masks/moisturizers? I'm on the dry side this winter, and it's not feeling great.
>>5699635
2A hair btw, light brown/blonde, generally fine/light so needs weight as well
>>5699645
Same exact hair and problem. Plz help.
![d25365e00ee09b0e691bcbb8f2d77440[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LDxhWz3.jpg "d25365e00ee09b0e691bcbb8f2d77440[2].jpg")
>>5699419
This question makes no sense, it's just a natural in-born self-identity. I hate gender stereotypes and roles, especially in my country, but I've always identified as a boy, even if I don't want to be a "man" and would love to look more fem (too late).
If you are trans you should understand it more than anyone - you want to be what you feel you are, despite gender roles or your biological sex.
Do any of you regularly wear makeup? What do you wear?
>>5700318
just foundation usually
>>5699109
alright, you can stay as long as you don't shit it up, faggot
>>5700318
BB cream and fill in my eyebrows a little bit to make them more noticeable (they're kinda blonde).
>>5700318
I do a quickie pencil contour and eyebrow fill. When I really want to feel cunt bootz I'll concealer contour. But I'm in the country now so yeah no point for that.
>>5699314
>want to look like grill
>dress like grill
>style like grill
>change chemical composition to grill
>"but I'm not grill"
>>5700707
>don't believe you are gril
>don't demand other people call you gril
>>5700850
you are transgrill in every tangible facet except... nothing. the only reason you are not called transgrill is because you say you don't want to be called trans.
denial is bad. seek help immediately.
>>5700926
>nothing
*two key facets
FTFY
also pls go, this is supposed to be a safe space where we can just be pretty dudes without trannies shitposting and trying to drag us down to their level
>>5700971
anon, go get help
>>5701089
>some of
and which parts do you leave behind?
>>5701116
You mean the parts that remain masculine? Biggest ones I can think of are voice, muscle (just very prominent because we don't lift), genitals and bone structure. Most of us wear more men's clothing than women's as well if we're talking non-anatomical stuff.
>>5701155
you can't change your bone structure and muscle is one of those things covered in the OP under fitness, so you -are- changing that. there are also quite a few transgirls who don't surgically alter their genitals.
when you say most of you wear more men's clothing, I find that hard to believe. at least hart to believe it's done by choice. it seems like most users here that don't dress fem more often than masc is because they're still closeted.
>>5701207
>bone structure
I know that it won't change and I don't desire to change it. I like my boyish frame.
>muscle
You can only modify it so much. It's still going to be distributed like a typical male's body. It's just how much mass you put on/take off.
>men's clothes
I'm not closeted. I wear mostly men's tops because I just think they look better on me, that's all. I wear almost all girl's pants though because I'm too small to fit into men's and in North America men's pants are baggy af... I hate them. I can't really speak for everyone else on this matter, but it could very well be that they'll dress in more women's clothes when they're more comfortable. To each his own.
>>5701315
>You can only modify it so much. It's still going to be distributed like a typical male's body. It's just how much mass you put on/take off.
Mones redistribute your fat and the exercises in the OP will tone and lift your butt and thighs.
>>5701207
>closeted
This meme has to die.
I've seen enough guys who were fooled into transitioning only to make them unhappy and ruin their life with societal and health problems.
>>5701334
The only meme that needs to die is femgen being mtfgen-lite.
Maybe we should rename this shit twinkgen so the hons leave.
>>5701327
Okay, but not everyone here cares enough to maintain those fitness regimens or go on hormones.
>>5701334
I've seen guys who thought they were ready to transition then realized within a few months that it was completely not the right thing to do (for them), so they stopped before any real damage was done.
>>5701364
b-but i'm too tall to be a twink x__x
>>5701413
I think the bulk of those posts were addressing those on hrt, anon.
>>5701438
Yeah. I don't know what the goals of the people are who constantly ask those types of questions. Like you're not gonna convince me I'm trans lol.
>>5701364
I still think it should be called FemGen tbqh. They'll get bored of hearing the same answers. Hon-life must be pretty lonely though so I could see why they're trying to recruit us.
>>5701426
Height has little to do with being a twink. It's about being slender, smooth and cute.
Femboys are just really adorable twinks.
your wrong on both of these
>>5701598
true
>mfw our mere existence triggers trannies so badly that they stay up at night thinking of things to post here
>>5701999
>yfw they're the only ones posting here
>>5701999
Who are you?
And where are the trannies who post here?
>thinking while posting
>lel
>>5701999
I doubt it
we see a few mtfg trip fags come here to fish for compliments
>>5701999
>tfw trans and stay up all night thinking of what to post in /femgen/
>>5701999
You're flattering yourself. I'm just enjoying the waiting (and the view until the inevitable happens)
>tfw you've seen the face of transition after twinkdeath
>tfw it was a hon
>>5702076
I'm just hoping that soon enough, we'll beat down gender stereotypes so people don't cave so hard under the pressure to conform to one specific image or another.
>>5702071
being a cis male (albeit a femmy one) is easier then the life of a tranny
fuck all this talk about trannies.
what's femgen's opinion on joggers?
I'm thinking about copping some, but then I'd have to get my legs waxed because of black hair follicles.
>>5702085
Depends how fem. Some femboys might as well just come out for all the good insisting they're boys does them.
>>5702083
That kind of gender revolution would require overwhelming support. People like you, or me are always going to be an incredily small number of people and it was and remains clear that a lot of lgbt would be quite fine with a "closet cases and queens" situation so long as they can't be prosecuted for buttsex.
>>5702097
Waxing or epilating feels better to the touch anyway.
>>5702097
They looks nice on skinny guys.
>>5702119
I don't think they look good at all unless you have a butt or enough mass in your thighs to fill them out. this doesn't count if you're wearing a baggy top that covers your lap/seat area.
and only if they're baggy are they to come close to your ankles.
>>5702124
I agree on the butt. I've seen it work well with a jacket and sneakers.
>>5702131
I want to wear them with adidas tubulars and baggy sweaters
>>5702097
They look nice in pictures, but whenever I see them in real life they look kinda goofy.
Gais, I have a dilema. I have been in potato mode pretty much ever since I was in high school. Never took hormones. What will happen if I do start to take them? Everyone already says I look just like my mom.
>>5702163
Long term: less body hair, infertility, some breast development, possible but not certain loss of erections if you care about that, soft tissue will develop more feminine, anything of male puberty that hasn't happened yet will be either on hold or not happen.
don't worry guys
I am confident that none of you are trans and as you age and get more masculine you will accept that what you went through was just a phase and not something you think about constantly
>>5702198
Brutal
>ywn bully a trannies useless flaccid gt with your erect male penis
>>5702188
>I do get beard, but suuuuper slow.
Jealous. I get stubble after a few hours. Even right after I shave it looks like I have beard shadow because my skin is so pale.
I guess I'm doomed to pic related.
>>5702234
>ywn have your gp bullied by a femboy's dick
>>5702240
EEEEEWWWWW!!!!
>>5702241
>tfw you used to want to be a femboy but postop
>>5702251
>>5702238
You could always get your face lasered. Not cheap, but effective.
>>5702287
Thought about it, but I'm afraid I might end up wanting a beard at some point in the future.
>>5702238
>tfw you get tuned on by pic
>>5702342
>boy george fashion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw
>>5702342
He gets shit on here, but honestly he's pretty cute.
>>5702359
>the guy in the background
Hey FemGen. MascGen here, I'm not here to attack you all or be mean at all. I respect the fact you guys promote who you are, but I'm curious how do you keep this thread going? is there one guy controlling it all and making new threads? or is there a large following?
>>5702359
mtf here, I don't care what the people whining about him say, he's really super cute
>>5702370
>skype group
I never thought of that. The issue we at MascGen have is that not many people post and there is a desire for trips and namefags to be excluded from the threads. Is this a bad idea to deny any tripfag to participate in discussions? We are afraid it will become a second Gaygen.
>>5702378
The Skype group seems like a good way to give an identity to the people who want one without crowding the thread with names/trips. Most of the people who used to use names/trips here moved to gaygen.
>>5702354
That kind of shit made me idolize the 80s way too much as this weird golden age of being able to be girly even if you were born a boy when I was in my teens.
Neo-80s basically makes this decade my dream 80s tbdesu.
>>5702359
Don't really see why tho, he kinda epitomizes the whole idea of femgen (femininity but quintessentially male)
>>5702397
Yeah Aced started posting in GayGen because he couldn't find pleasure in shitposting here. That's one reason why we decided to make MascGen. Not because we hate feminine men, but because GayGen is filled with feminine men who attack masculine men without mercy. Masculine men can't even post without being forced out of the thread. I'm sure FemGen also had this problem with GayGen.
>>5702406
Is Chris Crocker femgen material? But he is masculine looking if he chooses to be, but his personality and voice is extremely feminine. Does that mean there are a lot of masculine acting feminine looking men? I always considered them to be dragqueens.
>>5702359
Short shorts are the best
>vain self post because I love short shorts
>>5702439
Do you ever use a timer on your camera?
>>5702407
with all the retards here on hrt,
femgen is often lumped together w trannys
so I can see why regular gays don't not like us
despite being femmy, there are some of us who believe in not wrecking are male nature w hormones intended for women
>>5702359
He is cute. He is my body goal, but not my fashion goal.
Regardless, it must be great to be that hot.
>>5702457
Rarely, I suck at photos
I was going to come here to laugh at you and tell you to just transition already.
But it seems like most of you are already transitioning even though you deny you are trans?
>>5702458
Your post shines light on something I have not thought of or known since I normally don't even venture into other threads that don't portray what my life style is like. I don't mean to annoy anyone here by posting so often, but I'm actually writing an article about the factions within the LGBT community, how trannies and bisexuals are hated by everyone within the community and how feminine men and masculine men such as myself are at ends and have literally an identity war with each other. It's becoming more complex and estranged the more new factions are formed within LGBT.
>>5702466
Well I noticed you have over exposure to the lens causing hue brightness, but other than that you have a decent photo there. Not my type of course since I'm masc4masc, but you look like a cool enough guy to talk to.
>>5702475
>Go away
the denial is strong, huh?
>>5702482
>>5702468
Is this type of persecution common in this thread? It makes me wonder if the people behind these attacks are from GayGen?
>>5702480
I edited it? If that counts haha, but thankyou.
>>5702475
I couldn't find it, but there was a sobering youtube video of chris explaining his journey from going full blown tranny to why he's on the masc side of the spectrum now
>>5702495
But he still has a feminine personality and voice though. He's not fully masculine he just looks that way now.
>>5702474
>don't mean to annoy anyone here by posting so often
Don't worry about it! You seem nice and you're totally welcome here.
>trannies and bisexuals are hated by everyone
I'm not really active in the community outside of 4chan. Is this true in real life or is that sentiment local to /lgbt/?
>>5702487
Yeah. Femgen oscillates between people talking about fashion and such and flame wars about transgender people.
>>5702487
>hey guys, let's all grow cone tits!
and there are also mtf's who like to push hormones on anyone willing to listen
>>5702503
It's very true most gays see that guys are bisexual and they refuse to date them because they either were hurt by a bisexual in the past or they are afraid bisexual men will leave them for a woman, since women can have children.
>flame wars
that is a term I haven't heard before. thankyou for enlightening me on this concept it will help my article im writing.
>>5702508
Nobody's forcing you but yourself.
>>5702495
That sounds really interesting! If you run across it again, please post it!
>>5702509
>has never heard the term "flame war"
How long have you been on the internet, bromigo? People have been using that term for at least the last fifteen years.
>>5702523
I didn't know online wars between people were called flame wars. I thought it was just called online arguing or fighting.
>>5702474
Fine just keep in mind we aren't trans and there's some people who might use hormones for the cosmetic benefits but in no way want to be a woman.
>>5702515
I couldn't find that video, but he looks like he looks like he's doing well now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUDL_CWWoMQ
>>5702569
That's not what I hear from the other side, guys in gaygen say you're all on hrt.
>>5702438
>femgen material
acting like a pinheaded little girl isn't really fem. Not having a shred of class and dignity aren't pluses. And somehow it's more jarring that he does that while looking like a gorilla.
I think Andrej really did the whole fem thing well back when he hadn't gone into all the mtf things.
>>5702458
You realize that model is probably cheating with meds or other stuff. Just like the one from your op. Irony at all?
>>5702583
>breaking dick
>growing tranny tits
>getting fat
yeh hrt is going to make me look really good, NOT
>>5702593
Andreja was always trans and playing the femboy thing because acting like a fashion eunuch pays the bills.
A lot of people especially in Paris are wannabe Rafs, and to go all in with the wannabe Raf thing, you need femboys, so androgynous male models are in high demand even in feminine fashion show (the reverse is slightly less true but not completely false, there's a very genderbender fad in Paris fashion in general)
This thread needs more qts.
>>5702598
>getting fat on HRT
Same principles as staying thin on t, just with a tiny bit more dedication.
>>5702606
this isn't pedo gen
>>5701364
only about half, but the pols say another chunk want it too.
Hrt doesn't make you trans though, and the unpleasant side effects like gyro can be kept down by being thin. some people would rather just cheat twink death.
That absolutely doesn't mean I want to be a woman or addressed as one or that I'd be okay with loosing the ability to present as a guy.
The whole point of the meds is just to keep things as they are and avoid the gay death stuff that happens to twinks. It's nothing like trans at all.
>>5702598
You can just chose not to get fat. It's called self control, anon. Too bad you don't get it.
Don't get fat and there won't be anything for the body to use for tits. You wouldn't get anything worse than puffy nipples.
>>5702615
all models are over 18 and legal
You wouldn't have a problem with this photo if it was a young straight man & a woman. Get over your inner homophobia.
>>5702631
>lgbt
you forget where we are?
>>5702631
I would be even more creeped out if it was straight porn
>>5702642
why is that?
It always seems like fembois have low self-esteem and constantly judge other fembois. You all should embrace and love one another and not live up to stupid masc stereotypes.
>>5702604
I don't think so. The bio said he started by ordering the meds illicitly and just had a mother that helped.
Also continued to present as male throughout adolescence, up till last year( modeling women's clothes don't count) and described himself as male and said he didn't like labels and crap.
I'm pretty sure that goes against every mtf standards in Australia and other commonwealth countries. Im fairly certain that someone who trans is supposed to present as female.
>>5702660
There's no universal trans standards besides the SOC and nobody gives a fuck in most of the commonwealth hw the british do it.
Also someone who is trans can be pre-transition, and in Andreja's case, she had to pretty much threaten her agent. Insisting she's not mtf because it triggers you is no different from the mtfs whining that everyone on hrt must absolutely be trans.
Being an androgynous male model who can to both sides of the fashion tree is a lot better paying, especially in Europe, than doing just one or the other especially as an out trans woman.
And models' public presence doesn't actually end at the catwalk.
>>5702671
That's still a ten year gap between meding and going female socially/surgically. How is it unreasonable to belive that "his" earlier statements weren't sincere?
>>5702722
Most of the word we have on them comes from after she started modeling.
Also some people take it slow even without the weight of having to be male. If I'd kept on singing as an adult soprano, I would totally have been okay lying about being so naturally androgynous that my voice didn't drop.
>>5702475
I'm a dancer so I'm quite fit and stuff, there's nothing stopping you anon!
Do you guys mind if a fem aspirant hangs out here? I want to be like you guys so much...
>>5702874
>I want to be like you guys so much...
I'm sorry.
>>5702654
Isn't it your fault for asking if taking hormones makes us trans? (it doesn't)
That's just gonna worsen the infighting
>>5702874
post skype or post pics itt for advice friendo
>>5698614
Can you add me to the Skype group?
Skype: gigjumper1
www.sogayboy.com/videos/two-friends-playing-around-8202.html
I just j/o to that video, and than realized it was a rape video and now I feel disgusted with myself and want to vomit.
>>5702993
I would love to join the Skype chat, but I can't remember my screen name.
I went full cocoon for a year after me and my old bf called it quits. He was the reason I have Skype, and since I don't use it, it will have to wait until I get home.
Nother for Andrej-missing.
>>5702406
A lot of people really don't like his beard. He should be able to do whatever we wants of course, but most of us don't like our facial hair and think it ruins our femininity, so him wearing a beard all the time is really unusual.
>>5702365
I wouldn't say there is a massive following per se, but there is a large enough group that we maintain threads with relative ease. We do get some trolls of course but the discussion is almost always amiable and relevant.
>>5702474
I'd be anxious to read that article when you're finished. It sounds super interesting. As for the hostility between fem and masc gay men, I find that a lot of the hostility comes from the masculine side to be completely honest. I could be wrong of course, but I find it pretty rare that fems say "mascs are gross, I hate them, I would never date one". However, I see this kind of sentiment all the time coming from non-fems if you will. In fact, a lot of fems are"fem4masc" (and sometimes fem4fem or fem4fem/masc), but I don't really see the reciprocity other than once in a blue moon someone will come here asking where he can find a fem bf to coddle.
>>5701999
>mfw you're just us in denial
just admit you wish you were born a girl
Poor femboys being attacked by those aggressive trannies. It's hilarious.
>>5703654
>different anon
>mfw i do
>mfw i'm just not childish enough to actually transition
Sure, i want to be a girl, but trannies are ugly, i'd rather be a cute boy.
>>5703654
He got you there.
>>5703676
>trannies are ugly
>>5703681
1% actually look good. The rest are disgusting. Why would I risk it?
>>5702407
>Yeah Aced started posting in GayGen because he couldn't find pleasure in shitposting here. That's one reason why we decided to make MascGen. Not because we hate feminine men, but because GayGen is filled with feminine men who attack masculine men without mercy. Masculine men can't even post without being forced out of the thread. I'm sure FemGen also had this problem with GayGen.
actually hitler niq and i left femgen because there were too many trannies here
>>5703676
> but trannies are ugly,
Ugly trannies are made from ugly boys. As in the ones that don't pass because of mannish features. If you would end up ugly then you are most likely a shit tier "femboy" as well so don't flatter yourself
>>5703688
You're not truly trans if you're not willing to risk everything to be your desired sex.
>>5703681
>tongue is 85% of that head's mass.
That's some Gene Simmons shit right there...
>>5703668
Just another day in /femgen/ sadly. Have some meaningful talks and all of a sudden a flock of perturbed trannies appear! Annoyed tranny used "attempted conversion"... it's not very effective.
>>5703688
You aren't risking it, you are being forced to. Anything else is fulfilling some sort of fetish.
>>5703700
While not exactly ugly even the best looking always have something off about them if you know where to look.
>>5703707
Hot isn't it?
>>5703712
i'm not being forced to do anything, i'm being a boy because that's what I am, and I'm okay with that.
We talk a lot about appearing more feminine and acting the part as twinks but what about voice? Do you have a naturally fem voice already? Are any of you training to sound more androgynous or fem? Or is that too extreme?
>>5703712
>>5703706
if would end up too gross as a tranny then you sure as shit aren't a femboy. get rekt
>>5703711
While they do their very best to look like the fairer sex, not a lot of effort is put into actually acting like the fairer sex.
>>5703720
I didn't meant to imply that you were being forced but that someone with actual dysphoria would be forced.
>>5703741
Right. I'm sure you and your friends pass, hon.
I've seen the trannies on this board.
>>5703720
>I want to be a girl, but it's only a feitsh
Oh, okay.
>>5703741
Oh come on that's just mean. I've seen the pre-transition photos. Not a lot of long-haired, pasty, slumped shouldered nerds looks feminine. Most trannies looked like nerds before and most trannies look like nerds with tits after.
>>5703748
I've seen the "femboys" on this board kek
>>5703748
>>5703768
Why can't you all just be friends?
>>5703767
you know what else is mean? femboys that lambast trannies over doing things they ironically wish they had the balls to do.
>>5703774
I have nothing against femboys. I just can't stand the holier-than-thou attitude some of them have towards trannies.
>>5703768
I'm not even mad, like I said, I get validation elsewhere, I'm pretty positive that I'm not ugly. Stop trying to bully people for not being retarded, practice what you preach and get out of a thread for boys, beast.
>>5703753
My sex drive went down a lot after i started HRT, i don't really have many fetishes other than masculine guys and rough sex. I wanted to be a girl when i was a kid but I mean I also wanted to be a police officer, and now I don't. Things change, we grow out of our old goals.
>>5703783
>I'm not even mad, like I said, I get validation elsewhere, I'm pretty positive that I'm not ugly.
>needing validation to justify your existence and self worth
shiggy diggy doo fàm
>practice what you preach and get out of a thread for boys, beast.
Oh you mean like how bitter fags rampage through every trans thread and shitpost them to death because it's not about them? pottery
>i don't really have many fetishes other than masculine guys and rough sex.
now you speaking my language fampai
>>5703783
You can be medically classified as trans simply by experiencing gender dysphoria for a period short as six months.
So, are you trans or is it just a peculiar interest?
>>5703780
Nigga you want to take hormones and try to be a women - fine. They want to take hormones and try to be girly - fine. If femboys aren't questioning your motives, you have no right to question theirs. And for every femboy with the holier-than-thou attitude you have some tranny with the very same attitude. Like you in this case.
>>5703780
>nothing against femboys
>constantly harass and denigrate them
>tell them their opinions are wrong and that fems don't exist, only trannies do
>get disproportionately upset at the thought of a man with feminine features
>get defensive and start reciting trans laws
>nothing against femboys
There is no "holier-than-thou" attitude. Explaining why we're not trans doesn't make us better than you. We're not better than you. I have trans friends and they don't constantly tell me I'm trans or try to undermine my manhood.
Antidepressants have given me the stability and consistency necessary to work on my appearance and fem up more than I've ever done, but they've lowered my sex drive massively
Fucking catch-22
>>5703823
Yeah I stopped my SSRI because it gave me really bad anorgasmia and nuked my libido, which made me fucking depressed. Oh the irony. Stop taking them unless you absolutely need them to survive.
>>5703823
So the choice is be an over-weight sex fiend or feminine chaste cherub?
Tough choice.
>>5703835
>over-weight
5'6 107lbs, was 108lbs before the SSRI killed both my appetites
>>5703843
Okay so an underweight sex fiend.
And a manlet.
>>5703585
I'm not a tranny though, just like looking feminine. Ditto for the sixty something percent of the thread that takes them to keep their looks.
Any reason why you keep demanding guys to go trans?
>>5703780
All I've said is that taking HRT doesn't make me trans. I 'identify' as a guy, I always did as a boy, I just don't want my body to be masculine.
Looking fem and being male aren't mutually exclusive and they shouldn't be. Don't hate trans, masc4masc and others who call us trannies are more annoying.
>>5703817
>>constantly harass and denigrate them
i only made a singly shitpost to >>5701999
and then to whoever responded but yeah sure.
>There is no "holier-than-thou" attitude. Explaining why we're not trans doesn't make us better than you. We're not better than you.
So many times on this board and others, I see femboys rage at trannies for "cheating" their girl aesthetics. That's what I'm talking about. But rather than get booty bothered by it, I just respond by shitposting.
>>5703823
your best bet is to use the antidepressants long enough to get your life in order and just taper off hoping your improvements in self and life make up for the dip in mood when you get off.
> to justify that i'm not ugly
unless you're in the top percentage of aesthetics, being not ugly can get subjective. Some people don't find the average asian or black person attractive. subjectivity familia
>>5703858
>All I've said is that taking HRT doesn't make me trans
I don't disagree with you though. I'm only chastising those hate on trannies because they have more fem appeal than them.
>Looking fem and being male aren't mutually exclusive and they shouldn't be. Don't hate trans, masc4masc and others who call us trannies are more annoying.
do you not understand the concept of a shitpost?
>>5703874
Tbh my depression only really gets unmanageable during the winter, and we're already more than a week into February so I might start tapering off in a month or two.
I miss having a sex drive. I miss being able to take MDMA. I miss not having vividly fucked up dreams.
Last night I had a dream that I was testing (false) positive for HIV. The night before I had a dream that one of my best friend's recently deceased father was Slender Man.
>>5703874
>they have more fem appeal than them.
That really isn't what I want to hear
>tfw wants to seduce straight men
>>5703733
I have a pretty wide range from singing, but my normal speaking voice is a typical male voice.
>>5703894
>Tbh my depression only really gets unmanageable during the winter,
I hate the winter blues.
>and we're already more than a week into February so I might start tapering off in a month or two
Learn how to do positive self talk. Like if you were to have a depressive moment and start dwelling on shit, you basically try to tell yourself what you have accomplished so far in your positive moods and that it's temporary, etc. I've had a good hold on my depression for a few years now and learning to bounce back when you get those depressive mindsets is key, lest you want it to drag you down for months on end.
>I miss having a sex drive.
wish mine would go down a bit tbqh
>I miss being able to take MDMA
so do i but i also don't miss the terrible ungodly hangovers they'd leave me
>I miss not having vividly fucked up dreams.
I used to get those when I was on antidepressants. They'd literally snap me awake in a sweat and in terror literally every night. it sucks
>>5703898
I meant like girl aesthetics; not appealing to girls. Seducing straight men is def a perk of years of hormone use though
>>5703733
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1lhHBVX3PTV
>tfw laugh at and insult trannies because I think I am one and I have for a really long time but I've always been too scared to admit it
>tfw made progress and started HRT in secret last year but i still lash out at trannies so nobody accuses me of being one
>>5703933
>voice falls perfectly into the androgynous range
Nice.
>>5703958
I am disgusted.
Not even just physically anymore. I don't notice the things I hated about myself before, maybe because I don't want to.
I feel awful, I had trans friends who really helped me, they calmed me down when I would cry at night and encouraged me to get therapy, one of them even talked to me when I was considering suicide.
If they knew some of the things I said they'd regret it all. I'm really just scared.
>>5703957
ty :3
feels good being perfect
>>5703654
If I was born a girl, I wouldn't ever have a working penis.
>>5703733
https://clyp.it/ujfrrp1d
>>5704080
laughed loud and sensibly
>>5703958
LOL that's actually mascgen's darkest secret.
>>5698614
>▶Should I go on HRT?
>If you can deal with the tits and infertility, you'll look younger longer and you won't age like a man.
Please tell me this is a joke.
You're becoming trannies because you don't want to get old?
>>5703733
https://clyp.it/irpttv0w
shiiiiieeeet
>>5704113
Not becoming trannies but I'd rather take some pills and have my body stay fem than turn into a gorilla.
>>5704142
This desu.
>>5704114
HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ah stop it man that's super forced.
>>5702198
i bet most people ITT are late teens/early twenties so they haven't truly internalized the impending wall. now that I have a lot of older "peers" it feels extremely close
>>5704142
>implying hrt does much
have you seen the 20yr hons in the trans threads?
many have been on full hrt regime and still manly af except
+ added fat
+ limp dick
+ gross tranny tits
>>5704237
31.
I'm just here to lurk and be jealous, though.
>>5702534
flame war is a very old term
I can't believe you've never heard it
>>5702583
being on hrt =/=> being trans
there are very critical differences
>>5702620
reposting poll link
http://strawpoll.me/6706250
http://strawpoll.me/6706250
http://strawpoll.me/6706250
and regarding skype
shouldn't we just set up a discord room so that anyone can join easily?
>>5703817
trannies are the fucking worst
>femboys don't exist you're all just repressed trannies!
>AGP doesn't exist you're all just repressed trannies!
what else am I missing?
>>5704250
this is true, if you didnt pass before hrt, you wont pass after
>>5698614
Was wondering if you would be so kind as to add me to the group. thevanburenator. I'm not fem, but I wanna be.
>>5704250
Tbh, I've seen some of the transmerwomen people around here pick on. I may not be onto what you're talking about, but most of the time people here seem to confuse mediocre looks with manliness. Like, a lot of 'hons' (not all or even necessarily most, but a lot) just look like ugly chicks more than they do guys.
>>5704237
i spend so much time worrying about the wall and my looks that its accelerating my aging, making me feel insecure and basically causing me to ruin my life and never go outside so i might as well be past the wall already
>>5704362
Whatever you do, don't save on contacts and ruin your eyelids.
I'm in desperate need of a bf that looks like young Solid Snake to CQC me into submission (in bed) and whisper gun shit into my ear
big boss/venom is acceptable
>>5704378
wat
>>5704544
You'll know what it means when/if the decision becomes relevant.
>>5704250
Doesn't do anything if you're a gorilla to begin with. It's pretty good for keeping neoteny, and that's not even getting into the skin and telomarase benefits.
Wasn't there a Jaye pic last month? I don't have it but going by it long term HRT use is amazing at letting people continue to look ridiculously youthful way past what would be conceivable.
>>5704568
faye is all angles, lighting
there's an honest - str8 on - pic of it full head to toe, and it's a chubby mess
>>5703585
I don't want to be a girl, girls are gross
>>5704727
I think you are just jealous.
>>5704749
who wouldn't want to be beautiful?
but only cis looks the best
>>5704766
So very true. But the trolling of trannies must continue.
>>5704749
>>5704780
>>5704780
>beating a dead horse
no point in trolling trannies b/c they are already miserable and self hating
>>5704749
No I like who I am, I'm adorable
>>5704793
I am sorry. I didn't mean it like that honest. I am sure you are very attractive and pass flawlessly. It's just poking some harmless fun, not actually hurting someone's feelings.
>>5704806
Trolling is too harsh of a word. Some funposting would be a better description.
>>5704820
Good for you. Keep being adorable Bob.
>>5704835
I will tri
>>5704820
>>5704286
I think discord would be better. A lot of people are paranoid about skype and therefore don't join the group.
>>5704880
>>5704888
i took the initiative. i think discord >>>> skype
https://discord.gg/0oxJr8YReYoLgI7O
>tfw started HRT nearly a year ago
>tfw not told family because I haven't seen them since I started and there's not been any need to, 'cause I'm not trans
>tfw been invited to my granddad's funeral which of course I'm not gonna avoid
>tfw fully-formed b-cup boobs (that I actually really like having)
fuck fuck shit what am I supposed to tell them? almost everyone in my family is, like, 60-70, I'm the only male heir and they don't even know I'm a fag yet, last time most of them saw me I was a huntin' fishin' 'n' shootin' beardy man and now I'm a qt andro boy with boobs, I'm having a fucking panic attack thinking about turning up, it'd be less bad if it wasn't a fucking FUNERAL
>>5705019
Wear a binder or gyno vest.
Dude who likes traps here.
A pretty big percent of you guys are hellaciously attractive and all, but why do so many of you come with emotional baggage?
Is it some sort of requirement to be a femboy?
I just want to plow without having them tell me about their daddy issues, or them bursting into tears at random intervals.
>>5705057
If you're just looking to fuck us and ditch us then no wonder we're emotionally unpredictable. Monogamy ftw desu.
>>5705057
Yeah we're all crazy.
>>5705019
>'cause I'm not trans
>tfw fully-formed b-cup boobs (that I actually really like having)
i didn't know denial can go that deep.
>>5700318
I regularly do smokey eyes by putting a little bit of black lipstick on my upper and lower eyelids and then smearing it to hell with wet wipes to give a nicely blended look. It's not subtle but I have disgusting genetic dark circles and that's the only way to hide them. Can't do eyeliner either so it's a nice substitute, easy to pass off as just hetero-metrosexual and suave if I'm out clubbing etc. too if I get confronted.
>>5704362
Embrace it and take care of yourself, you wont look fem with how much your face changes, but you will be a handsome guy who looks about 10 years younger than your age.
>>5705073
No, no, I'm fine with talking to em about issues but constantly crying about seemingly trivial things is crossing a line. I stayed with one for 3 years, and you don't do that if you fuck and ditch.
>>5705093
just another non passing faggot from mtfg trying to get some attention
