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▶Trans Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
▶Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizing/default.asp?chart=womens.pantse_conversion_chart.php
▶Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
▶Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
▶HRT info: https://web.archive.rg/web/0000000000000 http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=Hormones
▶Voice Help: http://webjedi.net/projects/lgbtq/speech-therapy/
▶Discord server: https://discord.gg/0jCp5pochww8t2Oe
▶IRC: https://www.rizon.net/chat #mtfg
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>>5633125
first for bleh
2nd for lain is a qt
3rd for memes
4th for bleh
>>5634371
3rd for Dys... ffs
fifth for kill me
>>5634370
only if you find hons cute
7th or 10th or whatever for whatever.
Why are we bothering to count again?
>tfw i accidentally left my music blaring and my mum came to my computer to pause it and probably saw the lgbt tabs and/or my cuteboy photo.
ugh
>Tfw gonna be such a hon that my dating pool will be limited entirely to ugly girls with weird hair colors who spend too much time on tumblr
>>5634377
Goddammit I couldn't even get the right post number, I can't even shitpost properly
If you want to kiss a trip you MUST say who
>>5634395
and what if we don't say who?
>>5634392
>tfw don't even have a dating pool
is anyone else being a complete recluse until they pass
>>5634408
yes
>>5634395
all
>>5634408
thought i would rofl
still basically am..
>>5634382
My mother and I went through a first sketch of a packing list for Thailand. She reminded me to buy pads because I'd probably need them for a while post-op. As if all of this was completely ordinary and not at all terrifying. But then when I mentioned the new suit I bought, she told me she didn't get why I'd wear that because I never wore suits as a guy. She's weird that way.
>>5634395
Who.
>>5634395
M A D O
>>5634423
you.
except you're 15 years too old :^)
>tfw manly yawn
>>5634395
munmun
>>5634427
Thanks for reminding me that I'm a crone. I needed that.
>>5634420
Gross
>>5634432
that was mean of me. i'm sorry. i shouldn't be a bitch to you you're one of my favourite trips tbhon
hey yall the smiths are probably the best band ever
Leddit trans community is now officially Lauras Playground v2.0
https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/43akax/why_we_recommend_against_diy/
>>5634448
Hey, this is /LGBT/. We're all Village People fans. Except that freak in the corner who listens to the Cure.
HRT ruined my life
is it too late to pull out
>>5634459
whoa
>>5634457
But self-medding is super dangerous anon.
>>5634457
Well, I'm all for self-medding as a way to kick start a transition. But when I see people doing it for years on end or using the really shitty, dangerous stuff like ethynilestradiol, megestrol acetate or merely progesterone, yeah, I can see why one would advise against it. I can't, because it wouldn't feel quite honest given I used the shitty stuff as a teenager and I self-medded before getting a script this time too.
>>5634459
Hey, boys don't cry so I became a girl instead :'(
>>5634457
That is such fucking bullshit, all you're doing is making it more dangerous for people who have no other option.
>>5634479
Actually, that was one of the less shitty trans movies...
>>5634457
Muh blak market
>>5634457
It's an incredibly reasonable post that links to informed consent clinics, acknowledges that DIY is an avenue available for people with no other serious recourse and has an article advocating for legit medical care with less gatekeeping.
Are you just looking for shit to get mad about or did you want some sweet 4chan up(you)s for circlejerking your gt about le Reddit menace XD
>>5634457
>>5634489
speaking of which, to get hold of degarelix acetate through a legitimate route, i need to do a telephone consultation with the online pharmaceutical.
the form is asking me what i'm using the medication for.
umm.... the only on-label use is to treat prostate cancer? h-how do i do this.
>>5634393
OP can't art either.
>>5634497
ima cry
btw aco is ok...cute pics kinda gross
>>5634476
self medding is awesome. Do you want to be cucked by testosterone?
>>5634501
ye
>>5634505
>tfw masculine everything
>>5634478
>dangerous stuff like ethynilestradiol, megestrol acetate
Which literally only happens when you hide information about how to DIY properly. When you have a community that tells you they won't help, you seek help in other places, places like google and amazon and the websites you come across first are ironically the bad ones like this:
http://www.transgendercare.com/medical/resources/tmf_program/tmf_program_regimens.asp
It was because of an openness to DIY HRT that I was able to do it successfully while waiting on the 10,000 year waiting list to get into a gender clinic. I had endocrine documents, knew how to ramp up dosages, knew what the latest and most risk free drugs and dosages were.
Withhold that information and you get girls going to real black market websites or buying bullshit who-knows-what off amazon.
>>5634493
>circlejerking your gt
I'm post-op, hon. :)
Fix'd my masculine body
>>5634493
Also, not everyone is in the US and thus has access to informed consent and even many in the US don't live near an informed consent clinic.
>>5634516
nice thighs
Does anyone else have posture issues? I sit and work at a desk all day, and my head is like, pushed forward. It makes me look dumb when I have my hair up in a ponytail or something. My back is also really curved, but I actually like that and think it looks good, it kind of makes my butt and boobs look bigger. How do I just fix my neck?
>>5634496
since nobody answered. i was honest with them.
>>5634524
Slouching looks bad on a girl, yeah. Which is why I wear a strap these days...
>>5634532
shoulders straight
>>5634518
Which is why they specifically clarified that DIY can be an option and that they're not censoring info about it.
But I guess that'd take reading what's linked other than the title.
>>5634514
Sorry, circlejilling your bean then.
i got a pepsi from the corner store but it was flat.
every time i get a pepsi from there it's flat.
all i wanted was a pepsi.
>>5634542
Are you okay? Calm yourself down.
>>5634542
Thanks. I'm sick of the post-op erasure in these threads and the trans community at large, it's extremely problematic.
>>5634543
I suggest you stop shopping there
>>5634574
haha and what, walk to the next nearest corner store 4 blocks down? right!
Im home alone
Should I crossdress? I havent do it in 6 months, I havent even shave my body.
I guess I rather not do it.
>>5634580
Do it
>>5634580
Best time to practice voice
>>5634395
pookie
howdy
>>5634580
>crossdress
Unless you're planning to dress up like a man, kill yourself.
Passers are scum.
>>5634543
Just say, nah, I'm not on drugs. Why don't you get me a Pepsi?
It's not like they'll institutionalize you. :^)
>>5634420
very nice clit, mmmm.... hehe
>>5634587
You wanna go? Meet me somewhere motherfucker.
>>5634579
GET A HOVERBOARD
>>5634587
just luck
>>5634395
I want to kiss many trips
at least Elanna and Anne pls
>>5634590
1v1 my place fagit, bring a knife.
>>5634586
Thanks bro
But Im closeted and living in boymode.
someone be my gf
>>5634591
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8d42r3JlbU
Please tell me exactly what kinda coat i should get going into late winter early spring to minimize my figures horribleness and massive shoulders
Im cold and i look bad. Help me mtfg youre my only hope
Would a hoodie work? How do i get one that fits both my shoulders and waist well?
>>5634602
You're a piece of shit, fuck off.
>>5634580
>I havent even shave my body.
Crossdressers always have hairy gorilla arms and legs anyway.
>>5634599
A knife? What are you some kind of pussy? I'll bring my fists that's all I need to put you in a box bitch.
Is 38 chest, 34 waist, and 40 hips good measurments for someone 5'6"? I'm kind of heavy.
>>5634532
where can I buy one of those??
>>5634524
Look up exercises for forward head and rounded shoulders. Some of them are pretty simple and you can do most of them at home, or even sitting down.
>>5634604
Will you bully me?
>>5634614
I just wanted it to be a fair fight, you wouldn't stand a chance in a 1v1 fist fight nerd.
>>5634608
i think my fur coat would go better on you than it does on me
i'm puny
>>5634585
hello sparkletits i want your ass in my mouth
>>5634626
you don't waste any time do you
>>5634618
Amazon. They're pretty cheap too. Check the reviews before picking one, though, some of the Chinese stuff is worthless, as usual.
>>5634608
Get a longer, loose one. Avoid stuff like epaulets.
Basically the further down your body people's eyes are drawn the better.
>>5634608
sleeveless jean jacket
>>5634620
no i don't want to be a bully :s
>>5634630
burn every single Segway in your town
for the order!
>>5634638
im not gonna do that
>>5634620
Hahahaha you little faggot, I bet you would go down in a punch. I will fucking end you.
>>5634641
...okay
burn every single out of town folk in your town
>>5634632
Or you can, you know, go for a totally 80s look and wear a power suit with epaulettes so huge they'd look so even on Stallone... Bonus point if you have a massive shock of poofy hair that hides most of said epaulettes.
I don't know what's in the water, I mean, I used to hate that style, but the last additions to my wardrobe are all headed into that direction. Must have something to do with the memory mess I'm going through.
>>5634642
As if you would even get a single hit on me, i'm trained in martial arts you know?
It's not too late to back out of this fight, kid.
>>5634632
It has to fit around the waist or ill look fuckin dumb from the side profile
Do stores sell fitted stuff like that?
>>5634655
It's because you are a degenerate old hon who has stopped caring.
>>5634664
Get something with a drawstring on the inside at the waist, don't pull it too tight. Will give you a feminine silhouette.
hey guys.
Who /Perfectmascara/ here?
shit is on point today, how r u nerds.
>>5634675
Shut the fuck up.
Speaking of which... I'm tempted to buy this strip and use it for a vintage Ralph Lauren pattern I got my hands on. Waste of money or does it look good for the price? https://www.etsy.com/listing/114387674/haute-couture-fabric-100-thai-silk
>>5634677
you could really hurt somebody with all those edges anon. calm down lol. where did they touch you?
![[PANIC].gif](https://i.imgur.com/5HnsfXh.gif "[PANIC].gif")
>>5634675
but how am i supposed to tell people i'm a tomboy if i put on makeup???
>>5634672
I wore something like that once and it looked bad. Ill try more tho
>>5634675
i hardly ever wear mine, i forget that i have it
i should use it tho its the single most expensive makeup item i got lol
>>5634685
It's not makeup, it's warpaint.
>>5634627
no way nigga
>>5634675
i avoid mascara, the past few times ive tried it i poke myself in the eye ;_;
>>5634677
heres the edgiest image i could find
>>5634685
eye stuff is pretty subtle honestly. Guys NEVER notice on me. girls used to notice rarely when i used to be shit at it.
>>5634690
really? how much is yours? tfw you buy 10$ lipstick
>>5634690
You should. Along with cream blush and loose powder, it's the quickest touch of makeup you can use to radically improve your looks.
>>5634675
i dont know how to make up
but sometimes my hair drifts under my eyes making it look like eyeshadow because i have curly chink hair
>>5634665
but anneeeeeee
segways are hella gay ):
>>5634660
I'm already on my way nerd. You'll never see me coming. The second you open your door you're going down kid.
I want to street fight a passer.
>>5634665
I can't help it
I really like flame headed maidens
man you are hot
>>5634692
are we at war with the hons?
>>5634701
people used to accuse me of wearing eye stuff
>>5634712
but then you'd look like an ugly crossdressing man beating on a beautiful innocent woman.
>>5634712
n-no im a wimp ;_;
>>5634718
But you and cfh are both first class hons.
>>5634719
That's what I look like anyway.
>>5634720
I'll go easy on you.
>>5634712
come here bb ;)
>>5634701
$10 is pretty cheap. The good stuff costs more than that. Then again, I don't buy as much makeup as I did when I was young since I make most of what I use myself, these days.
>>5634718
But I'm a hon (pic oh sooo very related)
>>5634723
you should wear mascara anne >.>;; it is v. nice
what kind is ur $25 mascara? the only expensive ones i've used are too faced's better than sex and smashbox's full exposure but i want to try the benefit roller lash
>>5634723
>tfw never wear makeup
>tfw people keep saying you look tired
JUST
>>5634723
so we gonna kiss or??
>>5634725
silly anon,
hons think they're beautiful
>>5634734
i see
>>5634723
jesus christ. you got robbed. especially if you are just starting out. imo anyways
>>5634695
lol omg! you get used to it. nowadays it's just a struggle not getting excess mascara on the corners of my eyes. it's really pretty once you get used to it.
>>5634718
practice makes perfect!
>>5634734
yeah i'm just starting out mostly so i dont see the point in buying more expensive stuff, but i notice with the cheaper kinds it looks like you did an unintended smokey-eye if it's humid where you are....which ends up looking cute most of the time somehow lol.
>>5634736
lol were you using things under your eyes? sometimes you can make your eyes look darker and more tired if you do the under part badly.
>>5634672
Also you didnt answer
CAN I WEAR A HOODIE AND NOT LOOK AWFUL
HOW
hoodies are so comfy
>>5634524
Do this exercise twice a day.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT_dFRnmdGs&feature=youtu.be
Is the whole trans thing (well recently) a meme?
In my entire school career, I didn't run into a single trans person. To the best of my knowledge no-one came out after they'd left either.
A few years since I've left, in the space of a year, two different people came out as trans (an ftm and an mtf).
It's not like policies and culture on gender has changed significantly since I left either. There were openly homosexual people in high school (without any notable harassment) and no-one gave enough of a shit to care who was in what toilet or changeroom while I was there.
I'm all for accepting people for who they are, but are we gonna find people who end up really cis but got caught in a trend?
>>5634743
but it was because i had really long eyelashes as a middle schooler and dark eyes from not sleeping
>>5634744
Anybody can wear a hoodie
>>5634752
i knew of 2 openly gay guys while in school.
after i left, i became aware of 2 trans people. 1 FtM, one MtF.
the poor MtF seems to be doing real life experience without having ever taken hormones.
>>5634743
Non-waterproof mascara will run off your eyes and down your cheeks at the slightest hint of water. So unless you plan on staying inside and you're sure you won't cry, the waterproof stuff is a must even if it doesn't look as good. Other than that, fake eyelashes are an option.
>>5634752
It's not a trend or a meme, kindly remove yourself from life.
>>5634734
someone tell this old man fetishist to leave please, he wont take the hint
>>5634752
ftm is a meme, mtf is not
>>5634752
yeah theres prob confused people who transition
not me but i do regret becoming an adult l-lol
>>5634770
she's a milf in this humble chaser's opinion Tbh
>>5634770
Nope. Not leaving.
>>5634775
Yeah but you're fat and ugly so your opinion is irrelevant
im going to make pancakes, anybody wants some?
>>5634778
im actually skeleton mode and average looking
i wish i was fat though
>>5634752
adolescence can be really hard coming out as trans. around friends and stuff your whole life you can really get caught in the crowd and repress your emotions to fit and seek happiness the normie way. that's how it was for me anyways...
>>5634750
but jeez 25$. fuck. i was considering getting some 10-15$ ones that were nice and branded but ehhh what do i know. perhaps that's the route to go?
>>5634753
> really long lashes
ur fkn blessed anon.
>>5634764
trueeee. i know what to invest in on my next outing i think.
im cute enough to be a femboy but not enough to pass how sociopathic would it be to get a bf and pretend im a cis guy until I pass
>>5634752
Possibly with increasing exposure more people are able to come out. Also, there is the thing that it can be difficult to realise you are 'trans' if that makes sense. Like I always visualise my future self as a man (hello lurking ftm here) and I always sort of preferred typical masculine things but it wasn't until I was about 17 that I for the first time thought: I should have been a man. Even then I didn't talk to anyone about it for years because I didn't think there was anything you could do. For me, the only exposure I'd had to trannies was like stereotypical images of hons - that didn't help me. To tell the truth, there was actually a documentary on trans people that I saw when I was about 19 and that's what made me realise transition was possible. So yeah, from my own experience, I can say that without actually sort of being given information on transition it is possible to not 'come out' as it were, for quite some time. Plus, if you do tell people who don't know they could just see you as gay and then you just end up trying out the homo lifestyle until you end up looking to transition or just repressing it, you know?
>>5634789
Find a bi guy
>>5634788
there is in my experience a pretty big difference in drug-store vs brand name mascara. that doesn't mean there aren't good drug store mascaras -- cover girl's clump crusher is pretty gr8 -- but idk even stuff like the applicator isn't as good typically. mascara doesn't last long, ur supposed to throw it out after 6 months, but you can usually get smaller sizes of the high end stuff for cheap so it isn't a waste of money
>>5634791
Well, the only exposure I had as a teenager was a book, so I had no preconceived view of what trans women looked like. It allowed me to put words on what I was, though.
Sometimes I can't believe I have boobs and I can't stop from playing with them.
>>5634732
Yes please.
>>5634801
me too i love them
What are you doing to be a better housewife today Mtfg?
>>5634800
When did you first decide to come out to people as trans?
>>5634805
crying in bed desu
Reveal thyself
http://strawpoll.me/6682846/r
>>5634788
spend as much as your comfortable with i say.
i've always done well with drug store stuff except for when it comes to eyeliner and mascara so those are the things i chose to spend more money on atm
if i could afford better foundation and such i'd go for it too but for now i can get by
>>5634735
i got the benefit THEY"RE REAL lol
>>5634805
not making french toast desu senpai
>>5634789
i've been down that road anon
lol it gets complicated
>>5634799
Thank you, going to def look into it when i get money again.
>>5634805
> tfw you hate washing dishes
>>5634811
You forgot 21
>>5634811
you're not supposed to post the URL with /r
http://strawpoll.me/6682846/
http://strawpoll.me/6682846/
http://strawpoll.me/6682846/
>>5634812
ohhhhhh i've heard that's really good!! do you like it?
Is there a product that can really grow your lashes or are they all scams?
>>5634812
Now I really want a pepsi, fuck you anne
>>5634811
you forgot post-hero
>>5634809
That's what I did yesterday, but now my gf is here so I have to do my best
>>5634826
grow? ehh not too sure
Have you fucked around with an eyelash curler?
>>5634803
uhh i retract my statement, i don't really want to street fight you... we can do something else tho ;)
pre-everything... is there any chance at all i'll ever pass?
>>5634826
idk if they work but i kinda doubt it. use either falsies or a primer. mascara with a primer is a HUGE difference from just regular mascara and the right lash primer will make them look longer and fuller
>>5634807
Well, I began mentioning it after reading that autobiography. Before that, all I could say, and said, was that I was a girl. As for presenting female, I let my hair grow long when I got away from home and into high school. And my first outings "in full dress" were when I was 17, give or take a year. I never dressed in secret or stuff like that. Actually, I still don't understand the point of that to this day.
>>5634835
ulgh
>>5634834
I want you to hug me and then we can watch anime or a movie together and then maybe coop video games with gross mongol candy.
Can someone do a huge favor and blow a hole in my chest
Just epilated half my chest before I had to stop due to pain. I guess I'll do the other half tomorrow. How long do 'mones take to kill chest and tummy hair?
>>5634846
im already turnt
i got two pizzas 4 lunch ahh
>>5634837
Wow, I wish you could give Kayla tips or something
I'm glad you found that autobiography, though, sounds like a real game changer for you. Wonder what would have happened if you didn't find it when you did
>>5634804
I know right? I am going to buy my first bra today and I am so excited, I am like a good sized C cup too and too many people told me I needed one. Its my first outing to the fabled Victorias Secret.
>>5634845
that ain't how breast augmentation works
>>5634845
Which do you like best? From the inside or the outside?
>>5634823
>24
I don't feel so old anymore
>>5634850
3 years to never if it's actually dark terminal hair.
>>5634833
Yeah I was born without eyelashes and eyebrows so when they grew in the grew very thin guess I'm fucked woohoo this transitioning thing sure is going to be great the more I try the more I find out the huge differences from me and woman kind.
>>5634836
Thanks for the tip maddie, um I suck at falsies tho and I think they look too obvious but I'll try to find a good mascara right now I use Ms. Manga.
>>5634837
r u French?
>>5634852
2 pizzas? u must be blazed as fuk rn
>>5634843
it's not gross, salmiakki is great!!
>>5634857
always young at heart, eh stefonknee?
:^)
no srsly pls i don't want you to hate me i'll drop it now.
>>5634805
>raw cut Italian marble counter tops
god I hate you
ad, are you here? :3
Results?
>>5634869
Pls no bully ;_; [spoiler]I could never hate you![/spoiler]
>>5634870
kayla you can leave now
>>5634872
I wanna plow your yaoi hole
>>5634805
cutting myself
>>5634846
>>5634853
Well, I would have kept being one of the girls, and would have bought girl clothes and makeup as soon as I got enough money for that, really. The only thing I learned was that HRT and SRS did exist. And when I tried getting those, I was gatekept as I was "too young". So, not that much of a game changer. I was already pretty secure about my identity when I was a kid...
>>5634854
niceee. growing up victoria's secret always gave me butterflies because of all the pretty clothes and wanting to wear things. i would get nervous just going near it.
Looking back on it how the fuck did i not notice the signs?
>>5634860
post pics!
>>5634870
sup kayla. do ur interview yet?
>
>>5634878
hai holly
we were talking about something yesterday in a thread and i think i was going to add you or email you or something
but i forgot
>>5634866
it was too much
>>5634886
You mean that ad in the paper she saw ;^)
>>5634861
I am, yeah.
>>5634867
I like that kind of stuff but chocolate is best.
someone hold me
Can mtfg recommend me a good horror movie? I wanna spook myself.
>>5634893
WAS IT BAMBI'S AUTOBIOGRAPHY??????
>>5634889
Long term changes in body hair were pretty minimal for me.
>>5634886
>do ur interview yet?
its for next week but they probably wont hire me either, the sales person job never called back for the second interview so im fucked.
>>5634888
Oh hey yeah sadly I'm at work on my break so I can't link it right now cause it's saved on my pc and I'm on my phone.
You going to be on later tonight?
>>5634889
I never had any chest hair but my arm and leg hair has thinned and lightened significantly.
>>5634870
hi kayla!!
how are you??
>>5634913
its okay and yeah most likely
i miss having responsibilities to force me to use my phone to goof off
>>5634909
Maud Marin's actually. I wasn't aware of people like Bambi or Coccinelle at that time...
>>5634895
chocolate just makes you fat bb
My brain hurts
>>5634908
Occulus
American mary
Ginger snaps
Babdook
Contracted
Are all ones I've watched lately
>>5634890
you're too much
>>5634870
They came with the place, it's not like I picked them out
>>5634916
>how are you??
at the brink of suicide desu
>>5634928
want me to give you a lil shove?
>>5634912
was the sale person job the race car job or was that something different?
>>5634928
don't kill yourself.
just your online presence.
good luck.
>>5634870
hello fellow shemale
>>5634908
Gigli.
>>5634928
Please do it, you won't but I can always hope.
>>5634920
I know :^)
>>5634933
>was the sale person job the race car job
yes, the guy who was interviewing me liked me but he wasn't the boss so the boss was supposed to call me to go to this place called king of the hammers today if he wanted to hire me but he didn't so that means I didn't get the job.
>>5634925
i know and im sorry
>>5634950
>did you go in girlmode?
of course not, i don't even have a girl mode nor can I afford one
>>5634955
fuck you kayla
>>5634950
Uh why they grew in look pretty normal?
>>5634949
do you think cow outfits are a turn on or no?
>>5634950
Don't fucking encourage him.
