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old: >>5496446
J-J-J-J-WOW! XD
DICKS
What is your BMI
http://strawpoll.me/6458652
>>5497814
But I already know how bad it is and don't need people to tell me things I know.
Getting called cute by friends pretty much confirms that i'm being hugboxed and i'm manly and gross and they just try to make me feel better.
>>5497835
>Getting called cute by friends
what friends?
I just want to get on my knees while a man feeds me his cock. I have never been so horny for dick, I have no clue what to do.
>>5497840
suck a dick. there are billions of them.
billions
>>5497835
You've gotten really good at trolling mtfg, how bout you broaden your horizons and learn to do it in different gens.
>>5497835
Your personality is cute
>>5497831
Where?
>>5497838
Internet friends
Always the worst kind of hugboxers
>>5497843
>trolling
I wish
>>5497844
No
I'm whiny and bitter
I'm willing to give out headpats for whoremoans, anyone wanna trade??
Today I had a dream that I was hugging some tall Asian looking guy in elevator.
I want a bf I want to be able to do that.
>>5497842
im too ugly for a man to let me do it
>>5497848
Cis girl from lesgen trying to make us feel bad. I'm onto you
>>5497831
>tfw no penis to suck
>>5497848
I would probably like you anyway.
did hrt change your hands mtfg?
only pre transition pic of my hand I have btw
>mfw mom tells you look pretty and looked cute on xmas but didnt say it out loud
>she never has said anything like that
>so far the entire half of a year that ive been out to her was like:
>anon you sure you want to b grill, no womb
>look handsome, look like this and that male person
>dress up all boy when you see us or siblings
>now looking at worst angle distorted pics, ughhh so ugly and manly
M-mooom were you hugboxing or are you sick?
I thought i could count on you telling me when im girl enuf.
>tfw you will never be the little girl
Which one of you was this?
>>5497871
>tfw you were little boy you had great childhood anyway playing with other girls all the time.
>>5497871
>blatant lies.
>>5497868
so did you hook up with your brother yet?
>>5497866
It made my nails a lot more brittle. Before HRT, I had no trouble at all keeping long nails. Now they just break for no reason. Other, than that, nope, no change. Still got the same long and thin hands that make cis women envious...
>>5497856
How am I making you feel bad? ;-;
>>5497861
Probably not, everyone stops talking to me because i'm so awful to talk to.
>>5497868
>tfw mom says you're cute and have a really bad view of yourself
>tfw shrink gives you reddit tier hugboxing
>tfw all normal people would agree that you're an orc tier man
;_;
>>5497866
I saw a photo of my hand pre hrt the other day by chance and yea actually, there are subtle differences. Theyre not smaller but theyre thinner. Idk.
>>5497885
Those were falsies in the first pic, I have never painted my fingernails or grew them long, I only have painted my toes because I have to hide being feminine still.
Also if your nails are brittle I suggest biotin.
>>5497884
I saw it on gaygen. You seem triggered so maybe it was you.
>>5497840
When you were repressed were you into girls? Or did you consider yourself a faggot?
>>5497888
>888
Show us your picture
>this OP
>>5497888
i thought u were asleep ;-;
>>5497900
please explain
>>5497888
>>tfw mom says you're cute and have a really bad view of yourself>tfw shrink gives you reddit tier hugboxing
STOP DOING THIS you fucking troll
Why don't you take their fucking word for it? Nobody ever says anything like this about me and you get it and think they're fucking lying to you??
>>5497866
yes after 3 years hrt + weight loss
>>5497909
Is that you Angie?
>>5497911
No, I'm not ugly like she is and I have no tattoos.
nice thread about ufufu on /b/
>>5497840
>tfw used to only like men but hrt made you like girls too
Am I doing it wrong?
>>5497899
I can't but people who have seen it would agree that it's as bad as I think probably.
>>5497902
Why would I be asleep at 8pm?
>>5497905
Because they're lying to make me feel better lmao?
People are just very nice in Sweden and all moms hugbox.
>>5497847
>>5497858
Classic Elanna and Remy
Classic mtfg desu.
>>5497924
idk y-you told me u were going to bed at 6
>>5497915
Kill yourself, those hands are still disgustingly manly you deluded freak.
>>5497882
W-who are you. Remember someone saying that once before.
And ew no.
>>5497888
Memma pls. Get half of my ice cream if you stop being delusional, all of it if you actually take a pic of you now and post it somewhere to get opinions.
Its not that tough, you wont feel more miserable than now when you wonder slightly if others see you like yourself and say that they hugbox you while you see yourself as a sudokutier thingie. If you are actually off as bad you think, it wont change anything. Atleast you will know ._.
Btw your pre hrt pic wasnt bad so it wont be orc tier.. Ever <:
>>5497932
Someone is jealous.
>>5497924
>lying
I loathe you.
>>5497904
its like... a mega gross thing you dont want to know about > >;;
>>5497871
Well, I used to be. Now I'm too old for that, so I'm settling for your typical teen persona, edgy and random. Given how many kids walk up to me to tell me my clothes look cool, I'd say I'm not too far off target. I couldn't dress like a reasonable middle-aged woman, anyway. Way too dull and I have no reason to, now that I'm freeloading.
>>5497892
I can't remember a time when I didn't have long nails. My parents had my hair cut short way too often when I was a kid, but they never bothered with cutting my nails. And given that I've been using either polish or transparent base coat for a couple decades, I could almost paint my nails with my eyes closed. I sometimes do it while driving. Nothing like a long road trip to have them dry without messing them up.
I am glad i left this place holy shit
>>5497931
w-w-what?
>>5497934
>Btw your pre hrt pic wasnt bad so it wont be orc tier
H U G B O X
HRT made me more manly anyway =/
>>5497937
It's literally their job to make you feel better.
>>5497935
Lmao are you for real? Jealous of giant dinner plate sized hands? I'm laffin.
>>5497946
>Where is the boy tinkler at?
This is a blue board Elanna, feel free to post your butt though, that's completely within limits and probably in larger demand.
>>5497940
I wish I could do my nails but like I was in earth moving till last January so like I was never able to paint my nails and since I am still not really out yet I can't paint them. I feel so shitty that I can't but I am saving myself a whole lot of beatings by not painting them.
>>5497911
No
I never had hair on my arms
>>5497915
>ugly
Well someone didn't take their AAs this morning
>>5497949
It's still a shit hole
Question to those that have had FFS:
How much did it hurt and how long did the pain last?
How long does it take to recover from and for swelling to go?
>>5497953
nigga my motherfuckin eyes is dinnerplates dude
>>5497934
i remember you saying your brother was one of the very few people who made you feel feminine. i really think you should let him catch you checking out his bulge while blushing and twirling your hair.
>>5497954
Fuck off you disgusting fat piece of shit
>>5497963
>Well someone didn't take their AAs this morning
well I don't need them since I am post op
uhmm am leaving to pick up frog in 30 mins aaaaa
gmorning mtfg
>>5497918
wongor !!
>>5497949
o
>>5497900
and brewing ..........
Hi Kit !!
>>5497946
Oh okay. I believe you then.
>>5497969
O my god that sounds so wrong. Ew ewew
Meant that like only one at the family thing more manlier than me was him. Others made me feel like a hideous giant.
>>5497972
So are you having fun just acting like a child and tearing people down?
Your life must be amazing, honny
>>5497965
Well I look manlier now and no matter what I do I still look extremely manly.
>Six years a neet does do a number to your sanity and self image though
I'm not crazy =/
>>5497909
Not a bad hand but your style reminds me of a young at heart grandma
>>5497955
Why don't you just use a matte transparent curing base. Pretty much invisible and definitely makes them stronger. Plus you get some training using that brush
>>5497982
What are you doing? You're standing there and you're fucking useless.
>>5497987
You know what oddish i always liked you even when people threw you shade shame we never got to talk a bunch tho :/
>>5497991
sharpie in pooper
>>5497909
Those are some nice man hands baby
>>5497991
>6 years being a neet
fuck man, i'm going on 7. god.
>>5497973
croak
>>5498007
It'll be 7 years for me this year too.
It's truly the best way to live when you're extremely masculine and will never pass.
>>5497982
It's a p nice ass senpai.
>>5497989
Blue board, such things dont belong in a respectable transgirl thread.
>>5497996
Mine are plenty strong from all the biotin I take for my hair. Also painting them clear defeats the purpose, I want them red or pink.
>>5497973
hiiiiiiiii !!
>>5497949
HI !!!
>>5497982
hiii !
>>5497981
oh come on it couldn't be so bad? after all, you acknowledge his hyper-masculinity. now just imagine having multiple orgasms as he's carrying your spread out thighs using his arm strength, while he fucks you silly in the middle of the living room. you are looking into deeply into his eyes for the first time and realizing what you have been looking for was right infront of you all along.
>>5498019
.... umm .... h-hi ....
>>5498004
>What am I supposed to be doing o.o
uhmm posting butt again for anon and cartman duh .....
Hi how are u Elanna !!
Doing anything fun today ~ ?
>>5498010
umie !!
uhmm idk what sound umaru makes desu
prolly a really cute one ^^
>>5498019
uhmm how are u ??
I saw u were going on a date w/ ur tutor or professor or smthing ??
that sounds v exciting o-o
>>5498007
I was a neet for 4 years in middle school .-.
kinda sucks being a neet when you're a kid l-lol
>>5498018
Decent clothes that mesh well with pink or red nails aren't that easy to find, unless you're talking about dark reds and subdued pinks, but I doubt you are. You should do your nails to fit what you're wearing, not the other way around anyway.
>>5497998
Yea you're cool too. Chat me up whenever you want.
>>5498017
dang :(
does kayla want to be a barbie doll or something?
>>5498030
I have really strong nordic features so i'll never pass, I look like the 40 years old hons except i'm 23.
>>5498032
i started being a neet as a kid too
Tfw you'll never be kayla ward
Why live
>>5498041
Many trans girls do, sadly enough...
>>5498047
i look 40 in any lighting at all now
>>5498038
Yeah I guess, dark red goes with anything I think. I can't entertain the thought sadly because I am stuck man mode for a long time still.
>>5498041
duh, like totally, is that even a question????
>>5498047
>tfw strong germanic features
>tfw will never pass without ffs
>>5498032
How the fuck can you be a neet if you're in school? It's time to end your life
>>5498054
Same
No idea how it happened but I guess I always looked very manly and old.
>>5498059
iktf
>huge brow
>huge chin and jaw
>deep set eyes
>>5498049
>>5498052
Sorry, the black and white plus garish highlights looks just makes me want to puke. Especially if it comes with sharp angles. Grew up in the 80s and I just despise that decade's fashion.
>>5498031
hiiiiiiiiiiii !! :3
>>5498032
umm im goood im going to sleep like rn i think im really tired @ @
and nooo it wasn't a date it was just like hanging out thing with her >< its not like a dating thing ^^;;
i hope things are soo good for you rn !!
>>5498032
H-hi. I'm doing pretty ok, just enjoying my last day off before classes. I have homework to do before my first class though ;~;
Also, I got all my grades back, pic related :3
>>5498070
gross desu
>>5498063
Don't feel too bad
She's a bitch irl
>>5498066
grew up in the late 90s/early 2000 and i think it's ok
actually i'm only wearing black clothes so a little color doesn't look too bad
>>5498069
Nice! What do you study?
>>5498038
Do you really re-paint your nails every other day? Or do you have to wear the same color clothes for 1-2 weeks? My nails will match what I'm wearing when I paint them but as the week goes on...
My nails always last anywhere between a week to two weeks before the polish starts chipping off too much and they look so shitty it's time to re-paint them.
>>5498076
Isn't all passers with money?
What do y'all think?
http://strawpoll!me/6459150
>>5498079
She studies girlcock.
>>5498085
Not all of them
She's just really nasty
>>5498086
I think you fucked up the link
>>5498060
I didn't attend classes lol
got kicked out of school and then my mom didn't re enroll me for awhile
eventually got into an alternative middle school where I had to go to school for like 20 mins a month to get work for the next month then do it at home
>>5498068
o sleep well kit !! I hope ur dreams are rlly sweet <3
>it wasn't a date it was just like hanging out thing with her
oo that sounds fun though !! did you two have a good time ??
>>5498048
not very fun desu
I loved it though lol
>>5498069
omg those grades
pls teach me !!
aww homework sucks esp on the first day ; _ ; I'm sure ull get it done quick tho !!
>>5498070
wow he doesn't even look real >///>;;
>>5498099
re place ! w/ a .
>>5498086
uhmm are u okay @____@
>>5498093
>Not all of them
yes all of them or else there would be like a surgery trust for all mtfs in America.
>>5497918
yeah that really isn't her posting obviously. as someone has said she has been on hrt for way longer, and using her pictures is gross
idk whichever sociopath is posting pictures of her, but she isn't coming back. please get over it, and cut out being gross
>>5498107
don't worry, you have being a vapid bitch part down
>tfw you will never pass
>>5498109
who cares ?
you're a bitch most of the time without passing 2bh
>>5498070
>Portland Oregon
but why
>>5498019
Kit! Hi :3
>>5498079
Programmin :3
Currently in a game dev stream but I decided way back that I'm switching into general programming.
>>5498092
That's only a hobby ;~;
>>5498086
Which one is yes and which one is no?
>>5498103
:3
It really does, but I get the feeling one of my instructors this term doesn't fuck around. It should be fun either way though. Hope you have fun with frog.
>>5498109
I get the sense that you don't know a lot about politics or economics.
>>5498124
I'm only a bitch because I am in pain. I am like the only one here now that isn't full time yet I have been on mones non stop for almost a year.
>>5498120
Try to make some friends that don't care and will try to encourage and cheer you up.
>>5498129
i am in great pain
please help me
>>5498129
i'm not fulltime either
and there are a lot more people here who aren't
>>5498129
I'm not fulltime
Just part time
WOOPS I FUCKED IT UP ITS 7 AM
http://strawpoll.me/6459226
>>5498129
>I am like the only one here now that isn't full time yet I have been on mones non stop for almost a year.
I've been on mones longer and younger and still not fulltime
and u pass better Kayla pls
>>5498128
oo well I hope you feel challenged w/ that class then !!
can be fun if u rlly enjoy it ^^
>>5498143
o-o
>>5498143
rip into me bby
>>5498133
I care though and hugboxing is just dumb.
>>5498145
Kayla has a girlvoice
Literally anyone with a girlvoice can pass
99% of passing is the fucking voice so I hate hearing whining from trannies who have actually managed to get that shit down.
>>5498143
Yeah you fucked it up. You're cutting corners and you're fucking slipping. WAKE UP.
>>5498151
yeh her voice is good
>>5498152
This is what i need anon someone to sort my shit out thx familia
>>5498156
>How am I a vapid bitch?
>iktf. I look like a man, picture related.
>>5498156
goddamn, that punching arm
What's up mtfg? How y'all doin today? ^-^
>>5498151
sometimes when i kinda pass people don't seem to care about my voice
and i don't know why
like people don't believe i'm male even when i talk
and i look like a guy and talk like a guy (maybe a bit faggy)
>>5498151
>tfw inconsistent girlvoice
>>5498172
Yo kayla shut the fuck up you whining whore go post on /b/ trap threads please i've seen you being nice like twice you need to stop starting shit like wow
>>5498174
your unambiguous appearance helps
>>5498128
Programming sounds cool! Do you have a lot of autistic people in your classes? I want to know.
>>5498174
>tfw no girlvoice at all nor place or time to practice it
>>5498177
the glasses don't really fit your face
>not just becoming neet and accepting you'll always be a manly man
Casuals
>>5498185
Bug glasses aren't really meant to fit the face.
>>5498178
You could have let me pick you up and we could have gone to the mall or something afterwards.
>>5498176
wtf is your problem with me? did a wallaby steal your hrt?
>>5498189
>you are very cute
Why can't you be honest?
>>5498156
Feels like more of a major homeless shelter than a city 2bh
ofc i live here, so negative bias
>>5498191
i chuckled a little
it always seems like you're attacking someone can you just mind your own fucking buisness?
get a filter it works people might actually respect you for once
>>5498178
Is kayla a gigantic fucking cunt irl too?
>>5498188
i didn't actually mean don't fit your face
they just look bad imo
>ignored
Welp time to lurk
>>5498189
I'm wearing my corset there. It isn't that small when it's off
>>5498188
She meant Angie can't pull it off.
>>5498189
Hi pookie!!! <3
>>5498204
iktf
>>5498206
No one can
>>5498204
Hi Korra !!
>>5498205
aahh okay
Is it a trainer or just an aesthetic one?
>>5498207
Hi maddie!!! <3
>>5498192
I am tho o-o;;
>>5498215
It's fucking sunglasses you get new ones and the criticism's over.
>>5498218
Trainer
Trying to get my waist down to a good size
>>5498179
It doesn't help on the phone ;~;
>tfw your ex hugboxed you for years and you went off on them and they admitted to it
>>5498181
There was one very autistic person in one of my classes, but everyone else seemed pretty ok. Just a lot of younger students honestly, I'm way older than most of them.
>>5498182
;~; do you live with your parents?
>>5498183
Voice therapy helps a lot, I hope it works out well for you
>>5498220
You're implying I actually care?
That's sweet of you
>>5498233
Get on skype wowfuckingeeee
>>5498234
Maybe, maybe not. I'm being honest Angie but wear what you like of course.
>>5498233
It really was better after some drinks. I don't think I can encourage that as a solution though.
>>5498240
And that's fine
I like opinions
>>5498233
yep ;-;
>>5498247
Kayla sounds like she could be a good friend...
>>5498247
I didn't get freaked out, they were rude in that bar. Also running across the street is safer than just taking your sweet damn time.
>>5498233
>>tfw your ex hugboxed you for years
My worst fear is that my so is doing this right now
>>5498259
whats hugbox mean
>>5498247
Kayla can't cross the street? Is she really a child?
Why did I get adultery as my sin? x ^x
I'm not a cheater!!
Not matter how degenerate or horny I am.
>>5498262
Lying through their teeth saying you pass better than you actually do
>>5498264
a manchild yes
>>5498251
>...
>implying
>>5498262
A term that people use it to shoot down the opinions of others
>>5498273
shame tis all
>>5498274
That's how we use it now but it's supposed to be when people lie to your face
>>5498243
Not a long term solution no. I think I need to work on it again. Or, maybe just think about it more when I talk ;_;
Thank you for being honest with me about it though, not a lot of people are.
>>5498259
I mean, asking them helps, but then again mine denied it until a few days ago, which was months after we broke up.
How to pass when
>5´10"
>16" shoulders
>no hips
>huge hands and feet
>awful manly face with caveman features
>manly hair no matter what I do with it
>huge ears
>manly eyes
I just want to stop living like this and pass
>>5498282
>lol look mom I posted it again
>>5498250
post feet
>>5498276
Can I request another anime reaction image, I don't understand this one
>>5498282
You need to get a tripcode so we can filter you, please?
>>5498281
I've asked and he gets all sullen for a while when I do because he says feels bad I don't believe him.
>>5498291
>implying i've ever gotten any advice
>just do it :)
>>5498298
I don't understand this one, either..
>>5498290
>>5498300
You do need to just do it. You need to post face, work on voice, believe your therapist and family, go back to school or get a job, find hobbies that take you outside. Literally everything about your life is fucked and keeping you stuck where you are. I want you, in the nicest way, to fuck off and never use 4chan again.
>>5498310
THEY'RE ONLY GETTING MORE CONFUSING
>>5498299
>well I am going to go meet people I met off the internet and get fucked up out of my mind
This is a really solid plan that hasn't steered me wrong yet.
>>5498250
Jocelyn?
>>5498279
But how do you know when people lie?
>>5498318
>excellent
>>5498311
now post butt
>>5498312
>post face and get bullied
>believe your shrinks and families obvious lies
>go back to school as a disgusting man and feel like crap cosntantly
Wow thanks :D
Why would I stop using 4chan?
It's the only reason i'm still sane.
>>5498326
They probably aren't, but personally I'm paranoid like that.
>>5498291
Yeah, it's true, but I mean, at least I have the motivation to fix it now. It makes a lot more of an impact when someone else is willing to confirm it rather than assuming my manvoice is in my head ;_;
>>5498297
It's hard, there's a lot of reasons that could make him sullen. It's impossible to know if they're hugboxing, but remember that if they are, they're doing it out of a place of caring about you and wanting you to feel better, as misguided as it might be.
>>5498331
This is how I know you're a troll/shitposter
>>5498331
You're not still sane.
>>5498311
Maddie which trip do you want to kiss the most?
>>5498329
>you will never rape pookie
>>5498331
You're digging your own grave, you are refusing to improve yourself and then whining about how your life is shit. It is nobodies fault but your own.
>>5498336
>still feeding this dank troll
>>5498332
>>5498319
enjoy your hepatitis
>>5498336
I'm not though.
When I shitpost I don't avatarfag
>>5498337
I am though?
More sane than most imo.
>>5498344
I can't improve myself anymore without surgery, don't really give a shit about having a wageslave life I just want to pass atm.
>>5498343
But anon rape is bad.
>>5497818
is making curry okay?
>>5497721
we dont have ihop in australia
also I have other things in life I want to kill myself over like being a giant man who eats when he is upset.
>>5498339
Well elanna is p. qt...
>>5498353
Then why continue living?
>>5498342
You're obviously a nice person but your webms make me cringe every time.
I really need to quit this place
>>5498352
But I have only kissed one and had my advances turned down once. I think I'm pretty safe from hep.
>>5498361
Don't we all though?
>>5498361
I love you anon
>>5498361
Me too. Where do we go instead?
>>5498356
Sheen what trip do you want to kiss the most?
Do you guys think lain-anon will pull a rawr? Just go berserk one day?
I think her shitposting is getting worse by the minute.
>>5498358
Because I don't want to hurt my best friend and crush and i'm a fucking coward.
>tfw will never be able to pass and be his gf
;-;
When he stops talking to me then i'm ready to die if I get some courage.
>>5498369
Sorry for being kind of new, but who is this rawr person people keep mentioning? Was it just some trip that went berserk?
Neat I got a free shirt from work. I'm p sure my boss knows I'm hella gay since he gave me pink tho LOL
>>5498369
I don't think any trip doesn't go crazy at some point.
They all snap every one of them.
>>5498361
Maybe you should pick up reading instead?
>>5498378
sure
>>5498376
What a shame.
>>5498368
none really?
I mean, faye would be fun to hug and kiss I guess
but I'm too disgusting to ever deserve anyone.
>>5498370
Well I am 26 and I have never even held a hand let alone kiss anyone.
>>5498357
o////o;
m-maddie
>>5498363
>tfw you have kissed 100% of the people you have met from 4chan
>>5498343
Never say never. It doesn't seem very difficult just cute post enough to meet up with her then do the deed. It's already been done once.
>>5498402
nice arm hair
>>5498399
>>5498402
That's just horrible.
>tfw got a new promotion
>tfw cute guy wants to take me out for drinks, dinner, movie, etc.
>tfw become normalfag
There's hope girls
>work as cook
>get free food whenever
>still buy fast food after work
I fucked up ;_;
>>5498395
Soon maybe!
Kind of wish I never met him so it would be easier, it's hard to care about someone.
>tfw don't live in murrica so I can get a gun and shoot myself and my annoying as fuck neighbour.
>>5498359
My webms are totally just as much for my entertainment as anyone else
I will never deny
>>5498379
That one reminds me of Nana.
>>5498416
all of that is just because you are pretty and look cis
there isnt hope for us who look like chris chan