just my 2 cents.
Gay men would make great fathers for little girls but I would never trust gay men to care for little boys.
Lesbians can take care of children well enough to adulthood but they'll indoctrinate them up with shitty feminist politics.
Transwomen and Transmen seem like awful parents. Rare for the sane and stable ones to even exist.
Bisexuals - same as heteros, considering majority of them will marry the opposite sex.
>muh stereotypes are absolutes.
Even if we assume LGBT parents are "less qualifed", there are thousands of kids waiting to be adopted out there. Okay parents are better than no parents, (assuming the abusive tendencies they already check for aren't present.)
>but I would never trust gay men to care for little boys
Why not?
>>5417634
>Lesbians can take care of children well enough to adulthood but they'll indoctrinate them up with shitty feminist politics.
This one is 100% true.
>>5417690
Probably because of the meme spread by anti-gay Christian fundamentalists that gay men want to raise young boys with the purpose of having sex with them.
>>5417704
its not a meme bruh.
>>5417758
First off, those men are clearly lesbians.
>>5417758
And you can find hundreds of examples of hetrosexuals sexually abusing children, but that doesn't mean they aren't fit to adopt.
>>5417779
and another.
>>5417779
>>5417788
and here's a nice example of two gay dads taking good care of their daughters
So I trust them with little girls. Not little boys tho
>>5417795
their instagram is so fucking cute
>>5417758
>posting dailymail clickbait
You're fucking retarded to believe that swill. They've lied so often it makes the Onion look on the level.
>>5417795
If you want a little girl you could just say so. This is not how one gets what they want in a happy gay marriage. Simply get under my desk, put your mouth on my bulge, and start the PowerPoint. Durr.
Im mtf and I would rather have a son. I would definitely raise him to be masculine and a successful male. I would only not do this if he showed obvious signs of being gay or trans that I couldn't ignore.
I think I would do a good job and I want to have kids eventually. Id rather have my own genetically but id consider adopting
>>5417758
>>5417791
>>5417795
damn 3 whole families you looked at and no examples with fully raised kids. wow those sure justify you're already decided opinion
>“A long-term study of children raised by lesbians found that these children were less likely to suffer from physical and sexual abuse than were their peers who were raised by heterosexuals. This is thought to be due to the absence of adult heterosexual men in the households (Gartrell, Bos, & Goldberg, 2010). Girls raised by lesbians tend to have higher self-esteem, show more maturity and tolerance than their peers, and are older when they have their first heterosexual contact (Gartrell et al., 2005, 2010). Children raised by same-sex parents seem to be less constrained by traditional gender roles; boys are less aggressive, and girls are more inclined to consider nontraditional careers, such as doctor, lawyer, or engineer (Gartrell et al., 2005; Stacey & Biblarz, 2001). Over the course of more than 20 years, scientists studied the psychological adjustment of 78 teenagers who were raised by lesbian mothers. Compared to age-matched counterparts raised by heterosexual parents, these adolescents were rated higher in social, academic, and total competence, and lower in social problems, rule-breaking, aggression, and externalizing problem behavior (Gartrell & Bos, 2010). There are fewer studies of children raised by two men, but gay fathers are more likely than straight fathers to put their children before their career, to make big changes in their lives to accommodate a child, and to strengthen bonds with their extended families after becoming fathers (Bergman, Rubio, Green, & Padrone, 2010).”
>~ Martha Rosenthal, Human Sexuality: From Cells to Society, p.247.
I was raised by two moms. I am gay male, love them both. 9/10 would take two moms again.
>>5417704
>anti-gay Christian fundamentalists
Christians whining about child abuse always amuses me.
Something about a pot and a kettle.
I don't think cis women should be allowed children. Cis women are most likely to kill their child. They will practice gender based abuse on male children starting as early as 8 months old. Cis women are most likely to sexually abuse their children.
Cis women should also not be allowed to teach, seems like every week another cis woman is caught raping her student(s).
>>5417634
I think no one should be allowed to raise their children past the school starting age, unless they are qualified child raising professionals.
Just look at the huge amount of parents that have no idea wha they are doing. Their offspring is the victim of their stupidity, as they grow up to be entitled, self centered, asshole people.
That's why I support broading schools 100%, and I was glad I was sent to one. What could be better for a kid to be educated by people who actually know how to do so?
>>5418982
>I was raised by two moms.
>I am gay male
indesputable proof that two moms will indoctrinate a kid to be LGBT!
>>5419188
Forget restricting only cis women, broaden it to women in general. I'm an MtF with a Jocasta complex myself. I once planned on saving my sperm to get a child via a surrogate, but the $100,000 to pay the surrogate and the doctors (or was it even more?) made me go, "Hmm... nah." I can't even be sure the surrogate would leave me alone with the child. And I only want a cis straight male (at least in terms of fucking, otherwise it doesn't matter what my child is), so my chances are less than 100%.
I want to brush his hair, dress him, wash his clothes, take him out to eat after school sometimes, help him with homework, cook and bake for him, take care of him when he's sick, take trips with him, help him with his problems, tuck him in, and bathe him. I want to take care of him when he's weak and boyish, calmly and reassuringly taking charge during sex. As he crosses over into manhood, we would have MFF threesomes with sluts from inside and outside high school including spit roasting whores and I would show him how all women were whores . He would one day throw me on the bed and take me because of his growing desire to dominate, realizing the meaning of what I have been saying all along. No matter how tenderly a woman has loved you and how kind and knowledgeable she is, she's still a slut (mfw). Eventually he would find himself a girl his own age and I would move on to the next boy until I decide enough is enough and settle down with someone my own age or he would marry me. Whichever comes first I suppose.
I would probably hang around high schools shopping for the perfect 14 year old to come by if it were legal, but 16 is the AoC here. And 16 is already kind of in the man stage.
>>5419188
>>5421375
This thread, https://desustorage.org/r9k/thread/11240825/ is really hot to me too. Imagining my son checking out my ass while I'm innocently doing the laundry, stealing my panties to smell (not wear, lmao) while masturbating, gauging my interest in having sex with him using roundabout questions and questionable gestures, etc.
I also have no desire to be a school teacher.
How many MtFs were grossed out and how many MtFs were aroused by this post? Both? How about everyone else?
>>5417795
So the only way you can get black dads to stick around and be fathers is if you get two of them to fuck each other. I don't blame 'em, black women are terrible.
>>5421465
Mentally ill I'll accept, but you only need to search /r9k/'s archive to see stories of even biological women who nearly or did have sex with their own sons. My own birth mother was the same when I was 15.
Here's a bit of an article about the Jocasta complex in adoptive mothers from the British Medical Journal. http://www.bmj.com/content/1/4762/817.5.full.pdf+html
It's not strange for women to have this fetish or to fetishize motherhood in some other way even if it is wrong. There was one NEET on /r9k/ or /pol/ who had an arrangement with a woman where he would live rent free as long as he impregnated her every 9 months because she loved being pregnant. And she would just give the babies away for adoption. In a thread about traumatizing stories on /r9k/, the opening post was about how when he was a child, his mother would say he needed to wash his penis as she bathed him, and then she would ask him to let her do it, and she would do it with her mouth. I personally wouldn't go younger than 14, but there you go.
Come sit next to dad danny,
lemme tell you a story bout how the faggots and transvestites are ruinin this cuntry
>>5421753
>be mentally ill male
>be into incest porn
>oh badass, these fucked up child fucking females are so hot
>I want to aspire to be the worst kind of woman
AGP AND kid fucking, grooming into the mix?! That's one nutty tequila trip you got there.
OP was right. Trannies make the worst parents.
Tbh I think a happy, well-adjusted gay couple would probably be slightly worse than an equivalent straight couple just because the child would lack those strong initial models for both genders and would grow up with a slanted perspective
In reality, I think gay and lesbian couples are perfectly fine for raising children, considering straight people usually don't do such a great job anyway
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>>5421375
>>5417634
I want a son though so I can go to all his sports games and do sports with him.
Fuk u OP.
>>5421903
you can do the same with a girl though...
you could make her into one of those rare chicks who play sports professionally as a career.
I think economically stable parents are the best choice. As for "brainwashing" your kids, it's never going to work. Each generation will rebel against their parents' values.
>>5422042
Nah. Unsurprisingly, as a male, I played male orientated sports at school.
thus I'd prefer a son so I could watch them play the sports I played and have knowledge on.
Like my dad also played the sports I played when he was young so he was able to give me tips and coaching on how to improve.
I want to do the same.
I'm a gay male and I want a son. I actually would prefer a daughter, but I feel like raising a girl in a house with all dudes would be hard on her. Like, my classmates talk about all this stuff that their moms taught them about their female anatomy and feels, and even though I understand the anatomy, I can't give my daughter advice on being a woman. So, I figure it's best to cut my losses and go with a boy.
I am >>5418889
And I was grossed out. I would never be sexually attracted to my son. I would raise him to be strong and I'd teach him how to break through women's shit tests so he could find a girl worth being with eventually and avoid the whores
>>5417634
Just my 2 cents.
Straight fathers should not be allowed around their little girls alone.
Straight mothers should not be allowed round their little boys alone.
This is pretty much your logic. But with the sexualities reversed. Don't be an idiot.
>>5421812
I don't want to have a sexual relationship with a teenager because of what any other woman did. I'm my own person. You just said only a man could have this fetish, I proved you wrong. And I may have incest as one of my fetishes, but I don't watch porn. And what part of that fantasy was AGP?
I would make a perfectly adequate, non-incestuous mother for any child who is not a straight, cis male. For a straight, cis male, though, I would be a Mommy With Benefits.
Plus, you're probably from /pol/, right? Given the fact you know what AGP is (or at least you think you do), you're using the "mentally ill male" epithet, and are on this board, don't you have a "mental illness" to come to terms with yourself?
>>5422292
It's really not that hard. My brother had raised his daughter and it's just a simple talk on one day she'll have period, he'll buy her pads, he took her to the doctor where they explained any more detailed shit, took her to some the mall and got her sized up for her first bra, even took her to get her eyebrows done and get a make over at sephora so she'd know how to use make up when she asked.
Plus besides that I'm a cis girl and I learned more from the pamphlets and books and websites they recommend in like 5th or 6th grade on it. My mom gave me the talk and showed me how to use a tampon but I still didn't understand till I read books on it. My mom told me some shit that I found out to be wrong later. Periods and puberty are just different for everyone. My mom had horrible cramps that wouldn't let her move so when I started she forced me into bed rest thinking that was the only way to keep me from feeling pain like she did. But I didn't get cramps till my 20s and they were never that bad. And she was flat chested growing up so only bought me a cup bras until I went with an aunt shopping and found out I was a c cup and that was why my back had been hurting the past year.
All the same I do think it's important to have both a male and female influence. When gf and I adopt a boy it's planned that her father and my father will be around for him and my brothers have already agreed to be around for him too. I don't expect them to raise him or be a father figure I just want my future son to have examples of good men in his life and I value their influence. The same goes for adopting a girl. I want her to see examples of good men and be influenced by them too.
>>5422357
That honestly makes me feel better about the possibility of getting a girl. Me and my bf just started having the baby talk, so it's not going to happen anytime soon, but it makes me feel better to know about your experiences.
I do agree that every child, no matter the gender, should have strong male and female role models. I don't know why, it just seems right.
>>5417634
Wouldn't it be better for gay dudes to adopt a boy? I mean, I don't feel prepared to help someone go through lady puberty.
>>5418891
Links to these studies, because everything I've actually read states that gay parents tend to be an absolute disaster for children.
>>5419250
Yeah, have to indoctrinate them in the totally corrupt modern academic setting. Never mind the fact that even moderately competent homeschooler parents have children that tend to be superior to their publicly and privately taught peers. Especially in the case of most private school taught kids.
>>5422562
>Links to these studies, because everything I've actually read states that gay parents tend to be an absolute disaster for children.
Um not them but did you miss the multiple citations followed by the book w page number all that is from? Like damn nig just google any one of those citations in the parenthesis and I think you'll get something.
I've read some stats against gay parents too but usually it's some incredibly biased shit from a mormon website or some similar religious "protection of marriage" kinda site. It's usually made conflating that a lot of adopted/foster kids come from abusive households and homos tend to adopt. So you ask a bunch of gay adopted kids only one question "hey were you raped/molested/abused" they say yes (not that their gay parents raped/molested them or abused them) and you compare that to the national average of non-adopted kids. End up with some fucked stats. Especially since gays are more likely to adopt older kids that are seen as less desirable and have been through more abuse.
Stats that look at gay parents that adopted/birthed the child as a baby and then compared that to the national average get better stats.
But on the flip side anti-gay-adoptions accuse liberals of those stats being fucked cause then gay parents tend to be wealthier. Because ya know they didn't accidentally get pregnant, they waited till they were financially stable to adopt a baby and that gives them an unfair advantage in the stats game.
Really it's just hard to make gay parent stats cause you have to look at the end results. You have to look at children born around the late 80s and raised solely by gay parents. And it's only recent that gay parents are able to adopt. That's why they usually look at lesbian parents cause those are the only ones they can get a sizable number on since single women are more likely to get approved on adoption than single men plus besides adoption a lesbian could just get a sperm donor.
>>5421465
you underestimate /d/ and /aco/
>>5422683
>/d/ and /aco/
>majority of those guys being futafags
yeah, mentally ill men. Anon didn't miss anything.
>>5422324
I'm >>5421375. That's exactly what I'm saying though. Women should be kept from their sons and fathers from their daughters. I would post my screenshot pic of the thread where one MtF was groped by her drunk, veteran father because the mother wasn't giving him any and another MtF who was "accidentally" walked in on after showers and who found trans porn searches on her father's computer, who were then responded to by an anon saying, "If you can't be good sons, you should at least be good lovers," if I could find it.
>>5417634
>gut reactions based on stereotypes
Because we all know no straight or cis parents can abuse, indoctrinate, or molest a child. And its common knowledge that children do just wonderfully in single parent households.
