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BBW edition

>Links
• Informed Consent Providers:
https://itmb.co/r1uo5 (PDF)
• Makeup Tutorial: http://imgur.com/a/JO33K/
• MTF Info Dump: http://pastebin.com/36HC6ZmT
• Size charts: http://www.americanapparel.net/sizi http://www.nationalworkwear.com/siz
• Transition timelines: http://imgur.com/a/qWpxv
• Voice Training: http://pastebin.com/dgipdsge
• Articles, Studies and General information about Questioning, Transitioning and other stuff: http://pastebin.com/CyW1dXV8
• Useful links about/for transgender people: http://pastebin.com/h1vLPxyV
• Transgender FAQ: http://pastebin.com/8QbKyShU
• Am I trans/trans help threads archive: http://pastebin.com/CPzj0xv9
• Basic Trans Information: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TS.html
• Hormones, and so much more: http://www.transgendercare.com/
• For your doctor: http://transhealth.ucsf.edu/

>Where we are:
#transbians on Rizon
TC /translez

>/tlg/ F.A.Q.
1. What is a transbian/trans-lesbian? → MTF transsexuals who are also lesbians
2. Isn't that just a straight guy? → No, orientation is who you go to bed with, but gender identity is who you go to bed as.
3. Are bi trans girls, welcome here? → Yes but please the keep boy drama in MTF General please!
4. Are cis lesbians/bisexuals welcome? → Yes.
5. Do trans-lesbians use their penis when they are pre-op? → Some do, some don't.

old thread:
>>5334813
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Mmm, breathe in that new thread smell.
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>>5389274
>BBW edition
Smells like deep-fried butter to me...
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A little quiz for you transbians:
>what do you think of penises?
>what do you think of dildos/do you own a dildo?
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>>5389414
>penises
are genitals
>dildos
are toys

there you go
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>>5389414
>what do you think of penises?
They serve a purpose I guess? Personally, not a fan of them except in rare cases when I have feelings for a guy. In those cases though its always more a personality attraction as opposed to physical. So penis is kinda part of the deal but defininately not the main attraction.

>what do you think of dildos/do you own a dildo?
Don't own one but my gf does and I've used it a couple of times. I'm pre-op though so obviously I'm kinda limited with how I can use it (short of sticking it up my bum) so it really doen't hold much appeal either.
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>>5389414
>penises
Aren't that bad if they're attached to a qt grill
>dildos
I guess
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>>5389414
>>what do you think of penises?

When they're attached to a woman I'm attracted to and it's progressed to that sort of touching, I don't really care, I still want to touch them. It doesn't mean there isn't awkwardness figuring out what works for each other since dysphoria and coping skills is so individual; as is susceptibility to emotional crashes afterward. I don't even like being unclothed myself.
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>>5389414
>dicks
they're ok on transgirls and feminine twink guys
>dildos
basically a blank slate masturbatory aids for no-op tranny like me, imagination is the limit so what's there not to like?
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>>5389413
I wasn't gonna go there, but I'm glad you did.

>>5389414
>what do you think of penises?
Only if she's cute.
>what do you think of dildos/do you own a dildo?
They don't really do anything for me. I'm one of those weirdos that needs some level of emotional attachment before I can even get my libido to acknowledge its own existence.
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>tfw will never be plump
>tfw will always be skinnyfat
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>>5390380
same ;__;
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>>5390376
>I'm one of those weirdos that needs some level of emotional attachment before I can even get my libido to acknowledge its own existence.
Nothing stops one from using a dildo with their partner
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>>5390392
oh god hold me
or rather not i don't want my bones to hurt you ;_;
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>>5390402
>partner
I haven't even been on a date since 2002. I think it's accepted that I'm going to wind up as a crazy old cat lady.
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>>5390420
Ha, it was purely hypothetical on my part too but I like to think sometimes that my imaginary partner is using the dildo on me.
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>>5389414
>>penises
gross and ugly
>>Dildo
Just toys
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I have a girlfriend /tlg/, we met and spent an amazing week together and now she wants me to move in with her

two thumbs up for life right now, for once
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>>5390615
Just don't rush things too quickly, 'k?
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>>5389414
>Penis
gross genitals
>Dildos
weapons of ass destruction
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>>5390615
H-how'd you meet?
Cuz I could really use a gf tbhf
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>>5391036
i mean i think i'm too late on the not rushing it thing cause i was like totally head over heels for her almost instantly

>>5392273
internet forum

>>5392357
why do you think i'd answer that on 4chan lol
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>>5389196 (OP)
Oh hey, I guess this edition was meant for me.
>>5389413
That sounds disgusting
>>5389414
>what do you think of penises?
They can be fun I guess but I'd rather not have one. Generally not what I prefer on a partner but they don't squick me out or anything
>what do you think of dildos/do you own a dildo?
I think they can be fun and hit spots fingers can't, and yes I do.
>>5390380
>>5390392
>>5390417
This is one of those 'I wish I could give you some of mine' as I work on losing it. C'est la vie.
>>5390615
I'm so happy for you Emily, though try not to rush things >>5392609 I know its hard but just make sure to take a step back and think things through if you can.
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>>5390380
>tfw plump
>somehow lucked out with fat in all the right places

Too bad my personality is shit and I'll always be alone/hopping from one emotional tissue to the next regardless.
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>>5393717
i'd take having a plump body + shit personality over shit body + great personality any time tbqhon familia

t. shit body + shit personality
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>>5393661
>I wish I could give you some of mine
don't bother familia, it would all only go to my belly anyway
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>>5393735
I'm a BPD slut trans girl. There is no hope. Having a shit body would be way worse though, you are right.
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>>5393735
>>5393755
>tfw weird body weird face and weird personality

What do I do ;w;
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>>5393811
Weird personality isn't bad. Totally and likely irreparably broken is. Weird body can be fixed long term on HRT. 1 year into HRT I looked like a kinda off guy, now I look cisgirl tier 2.5 years in.
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>>5393755
see? glad we can agree on things

it's the best feeling ever
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>>5393742
A good chunk is in my tummy but I think I'm fairly well spread out so to speak, nothing too horrible. I guess its a grass is greener thing, I don't mind being chubby (honestly with my frame It's probably better for me), but I'm not liking being fat and so am working on it.
>>5393755
Is it possible to tame your bpd with medication? I know the basics of bpd but not how treatable it is.
>>5393735
You can always work on improving both, it might be a hard road ahead of you but its possible anon.
>>5393811
Time and effort, work on figuring our what parts of 'weird' you should embrace. Weird is a pretty catch-all term for anything not-normal, and a lot of it can be good depending on the crowd you're in.
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>>5393826
another anonette here
were you skinny/no muscles before hrt?
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>>5393890
i honestly wouldn't mind being chubby or flabby as long as the fat doesn't make me more masculine which currently it kinda does since it's all located around my thighs and exactly in the center of my belly, not even on the side or hips

maybe being skyscraper tall and having white genes has a lot to do with that but no one really chooses their bodies they are born with so better luck next life i guess
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>>5393963
Well the question I have is how long into hrt are you. I know body fat distribution can take awhile. and gaining fat after being on hrt for awhile will likely go to area's they didn't pre-hrt. My weight fluctuates a fair bit which may have helped my fat redistribution on hrt,
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>>5393826
>Totally and likely irreparably broken is.

That's the thing, my personality is weird because I'm basically dead inside from everything and trying to repair it.

I look back to what I was a year ago and I was so giggly and funny and people enjoyed being around me now I don't have a single person to talk to.

>Weird body can be fixed long term on HRT

My rib cage is almost twice the size of my lower body though, and it still can't change my dumb face.

>>5393890
That's the problem, I have no idea what crowd I should be hanging out with or what I should be doing at all in life right now really. I'm secretly hoping someone will save me and help me be less of a broken mess and push me in the right direction but I can't even find it in me to put myself out there right now despite the fact my only options in that regard are -the internet- because of where I live.

--

Basically I'm completely isolated because of how I feel but I think the isolation is what's stopping me from recovering.

The positives are that I've expanded my weeb knowledge by 40+ animes, started grinding my art skills, and eat sweets all day.

What I want is a miracle I suppose. Everyone else I knew has gotten one, is it because I'm not cute enough?

Life is suffering.
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>>5394035
Tear everything down and start over.
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>>5394083
There's nothing to tear down really.

Do I just sell all of my shit throw a dart a map and move there?
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>>5394035
>That's the problem, I have no idea what crowd I should be hanging out with or what I should be doing at all in life right now really. I'm secretly hoping someone will save me and help me be less of a broken mess and push me in the right direction but I can't even find it in me to put myself out there right now despite the fact my only options in that regard are -the internet- because of where I live.

I think everyone hopes to be saved and show the way, it's a bitter pill to swallow when you realize you need to save yourself. My suggestion is to try and find what it is you want to work on. Don't worry so much about everything you want out of life, but try to think about what you don't like in your current life. Then break that down and see if any parts of your life are things you can work on. I find breaking down problems into base components makes them seem easier to tackle, and even if you don't get everything you want done, you can be proud you got something done. Small steps over and over again can take you far anon.
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>>5394123
There's always something to tear down. You literally have to go through everything you have and everything you do...and you have to figure out whether it's something important to you, or whether you're just going through the motions.
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>>5393893
Yep, I was super skinny, my family thought I was anorexic (I wasn't, I could just barely eat cause anxiety). Then xanax killed my anxiety so I gained weight. Once I realized like all of my weight was going to my boobs and thighs and butt, I kept it up for a good 25 lbs.

>>5393890
>Is it possible to tame your bpd with medication?
Not really, no. You can at best try and take medication to curtail the symptoms, but after SSRIs gave me a severe adverse reaction, I really didn't feel like messing with psych medication again.
>but not how treatable it is.
In most cases, it's not.
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>>5394007
i'm about 8 months in now and my weight hasn't changed much. maybe i don't eat enough or whatever
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>>5394336
It might take awhile yet then, I found personally the majority of my changes happened between 12 and 24 months. Hopefully time will be in your favor.
>>5394283
Ah, I know it took me a long time to find the right anti depressant but if I had had a severe reaction I'd probably want to write them off too. I'm so sorry and hope you can at least find coping mechanisms to help you deal with it
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>>5394399
thanks for believing in me mom
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meow tbqhon
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tfw men exist
tfw u used to be one
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>>5394523

You still are a man.
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>>5394526
not true, btw
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>>5394526
wow rude
but true
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>>5394535

It's absolutely, unequivocally true.

You are a man.
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>>5394538
prove it
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>>5394537

Truth > feelings.

It is how it must be.
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>>5394542
yes my truth > ur feelings
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>>5393661
I mean I worry that I'm rushing it but like, this is a huge opportunity for me in so many ways, to get out on my own and in a positive environment and to stop being lonely, it's hard to say no to all that...it's scary but i feel like if I don't take this opportunity I'm going to die at home in my parents' house having never lived

>>5393735
yeah, um, i'm with >>5393755 here, bpd's not fun, I'm not saying I don't sympathize with body hate (we're all trans here, of course I understand that) but for real trust me, I'd kill to be mentally normal as much as I'd love to have a nice body, maybe more

>>5393890
not really, sometimes meds are prescribed for bpd symptoms (like mood stabilizers) with varying efficiency but the only method really proven to treat it is therapy and even then it's tough to deal with, it's a death sentence for a lot of people and they're the lucky ones
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>>5394408
You're welcome Anon!
>>5394554
Just make sure you have an out if things go wrong, and maybe try going a bit more slow if viable. Sleepover a few nights a week if she has her own place kind of thing. I do realize bad finances can make this a 'do or die' situation and I hope your path goes right

And that's horrible with the results on bpd. I can only hope they find better medicine and treatments for it in the future.
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>>5394539

According to this post: >>5394523 you are admitting that, at one point, you were a man. Since it is impossible to change one's sex, you would still be a man, unless you were lying about once being a man, in which case you would be a woman.
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>>5394544

Truth is absolute.
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>tfw no chubby transbian cuddle pile

Life -- why?
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>>5389414
First off, I'm bisexual.
>>what do you think of penises?
On a transbian or nice guy, OK.
>>what do you think of dildos/do you own a dildo?
Toys!!! Surprisingly, no I don't have one. I'm not sure why. I have nothing against their use.

>>5390402
>needs some level of emotional attachment
I feel I'm getting that way.

>>5390417
You know, every girl I went out with when I was rail thin basically said "poke me with your bones." or "I'm tough, I can handle it.". I was worried about the same issue.

>>5390615
>>5392609
>>5394554
*HUGS* Good luck! I'd wait on the move in, but extended stays over could be done as a trial. I did that with C#2 of the quad. C#1&B had a few multi day extended stays over when we were getting to know them.

>>5393735
>shit personality
can be turned around. I've seen it happen.

>>5393963
every time I bounce up and down it redistributes some. mom noticed my belly was smaller. It is, but my hips are bigger too.

>>5394035
If you were giggly before, then it can be found again. Sounds like the repair methods weren't the right type. What went wrong, and what has been tried? Often the only way miracles happen is if we actively create them ourselves.
This >>5394128

Captcha wanted steak, showed me bacon and a hamburger being grilled.
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>>5394035
>That's the thing, my personality is weird because I'm basically dead inside from everything and trying to repair it.
I kinda feel like I was in that same place not too long ago.

If you just want someone to talk to, PM me (Sio) on EFnet/Quakenet/Freenode. Be warned, my sleep schedule is weird so I usually take time to respond.
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>>5394561
>Sleepover a few nights a week if she has her own place kind of thing

that's not really possible when we're so far apart

>>5394615
well, i mean, I just stayed over for like a week...it's not much but i feel like I got a good feel for whether this is going to work
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Goodnight
>>5394696
Then I hope it works out Emily, but a word of suggestion. Get a savings account, leave enough money in it for a greyhound ticket/cab fair/etc (or put money in it regularly until you hit 100 or so in savings) and promptly leave it alone. If you're going to gamble and move away to be with someone, please for your own sake have the finances put aside for a get away should things go south.

It has nothing against your girlfriend, but its a good dose of personal safety.
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>>5394696
This >>5394722
In fact, routinely put $$$ in it for surgeries, etc..
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tfw trans lesbian
tfw love big girls
tfw single
tfw porn of a trans girl fucking a fat girl is impossible to find
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>>5394779
Lets make some, Anon-kun~
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>>5394782

if i ever really needed the money and went into porn, that's what i'd do

but for now, i-i'm far too shy for that lifestyle

m-maybe we can be friends anyway?
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>>5394788
I mean I don't want to share it with anyone geez you're too lewd for me.

Yeah we can be friends, add me on skype.
>filename
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>>5394796

O-oh, Well, I've never made porn with anyone before, so I didn't even really think about that.

Like I said, as a job, it would be a last resort. I'm actually a pretty private person

I added you

I'd be happy to talk for a bit, but I will have to go at some point within an hour or two, or at least concentrate on the paper I am horribly procrastinating on right now that is due in 5-7 hours. I know what I want to say for the most part, and I have a rough draft to work with, but yeah
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>>5394779
>>5394788
Are you me? All of you anon transbians are me.
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>tfw chubby
>tfw very little went to my boobs
I have a nice ass but damn I think I'd rather be like 100lbs over being a bit chubby with small boobs
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>>5395227
>small chest
>big hips
thats my fetish
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>>5395231
I wouldn't mind so much if my breasts are bigger at least and my tummy was a little smaller. Everything down from there is fine.
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>>5395242
Whatever your fat distribution is someone is out there fetishizing your body type.
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>>5395208

Clearly there is an untapped market here. If I weren't so shy, I'd start a website for it
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>>5395277
What market? I don't have any money or talent to contribute towards a market.
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>150lbs 5'11" , pretty skinny for my build at this point
>Want to gain weight to get some more curves
>Get a kidney stone that fucks my shit up so bad that I puke open a tear in my esophagus
>Stay at the hospital for a few days
>140lbs
pls
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>>5395274
If someone would put up with a chubby transbian that'd be cool
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>>5393890
>honestly with my frame It's probably better for me
I sometimes have that feeling too .~.
I need, or rather I really should loose more weight before surgery though.

>>5394426
meow :3
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I was blessed by the tit fairy but still have a man belly.
Basically I look pregnant.
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>>5395293
If you have female fat distribution then what's there not to like?

>>5395290
>150lbs 5'11" , pretty skinny for my build at this point
>mfw 125lbs 6'1''
time to eat all my money away
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>>5395304
>time to eat all my money away
Well I have larger muscle mass in my thighs, butt and such, solid bone structure that isn't too wide, Aryan genes basically.
But yeah me being this skinny as I am now, my belly is concave and whatnot, but I still have some muscle mass on my body that HRT hasn't melted off completely yet. Weight versus height isn't always accurate is my point though.
You definitely should try to eat some though, but don't try to become skinnyfat, work out a little maybe?
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>>5395316
>You definitely should try to eat some though, but don't try to become skinnyfat, work out a little maybe?
I got no idea what kind of workout would work for me as I couldn't gain muscle mass even before HRT. Any workout that I do eats calories I need to gain any sort of mass so it feels counterproductive.
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>>5395326
O-oh. I don't know then Anon. Tried proper bulking up diets people who wanna get swole do? Just do lower body and it'll all go there.
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>>5395304
I suppose you're right. I do pass and I'm kinda cute so I guess some extra weight can't hurt
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>>5395279

I mean like, people who wanna see trans girls fuck fat chicks. There's gotta be an audience
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>>5395329
Well the problem is that my budget is very limited and food is kind of expensive where I live. I mostly eat pasta these days with cream/tomato sauce of some sort. I can't really afford half a dozen eggs and 2 different types of meat every day on top of what I'm currently eating. I'm trying to get at least 2000kcal a day but it's not easy with the gov adding fat taxes and stuff to already overpriced food.

>>5395339
As much as I live fantasizing about that stuff actually watching other people having fun just makes me feel awful about myself. Maybe it's because the video I ran into was cute amateur transbian x qt grill cuddling naked in bed but still.
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>>5395373

>As much as I live fantasizing about that stuff actually watching other people having fun just makes me feel awful about myself. Maybe it's because the video I ran into was cute amateur transbian x qt grill cuddling naked in bed but still.

>tfw

OH, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE RELEASE ME
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>>5395373
Taxing food??? Why they do that?
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>>5395227
My chest looks a bit smaller then it should due to a wider ribcage... I think. You might be in the same case, I realized just how busty I am when I laid on my side in a tank top. It was rather amazing. That said I'm not entirely sure the actual size of my rib cage as my underband is still shrinking with weight loss
>>5395242
You could always wear tummy cinchers.
>>5395290
Don't be in a rush anon, please heal up properly first and remember you can put on weight and eat healthy. I've talked to too many people who felt junk food was the right way to gain weight.
>>5395297
Slowly but surely is how I'm doing it. I hope weight loss for your surgery goes well Imi
>>5395300
Do crunches? Thankfully its a lot easier to lose your belly then to get bigger tits anon.
>>5395335
with weight gain and/or loss, unlike a lot of things you can always try it and reverse it with effort if you don't like the results.
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>>5396013
>Don't be in a rush anon, please heal up properly first and remember you can put on weight and eat healthy. I've talked to too many people who felt junk food was the right way to gain weight.
Oh it's fine now, and I eat healthy, I don't live in a country where it's too easy to get junk. I usually eat like whole grain pasta and stuff.

I wanted to ask though, from a pretty skinny build, is 6 months in HRT enough to start seeing female fat distribution for when you gain weight? I'm not talking about redistribution.
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I'm probably going to do something really stupid, just to avoid spending New Year's Eve at the clinic. Pretty sure I'll just have to show up at a bar I know to get a choice of broken birds to pick up, that time of the year. That'd spare me the loneliest evening in me whole life. Just, not a good idea to get in a relationship at this point, so I can't make it a long term thing, which means a friend zoning is inevitable. That just feels selfish and I'm a bit ashamed to even think about it. Fucking up someone who's already broken definitely is crossing a red line. I guess being lonely is making me even more of an asshole than I usually am...
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>>5396036
I'm not entirely sure but I'm also not a medical professional. It should be, but I also know that when in doubt I generally suggest people aim for around the 1 year mark since that's where I began noticing my bigger changes and it has given your body plenty of time to adjust. Realistically though if your hormone panels are where they should be, I see no reason why no few wouldn't be distributed in a feminine manner.
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>>5395924
Because the citizens are genetically predisposed to heart disease and it's the number one killer by a sizeable margin. Basically they want to add extra tax on top of the already ridiculous 24% VAT and grocery store monopoly.

The pricing is designed for people that make around at least 2k€/month, the national average being 3,1k€/month. Not the best place to be for a loser like me who has 100-150 euros to spend per month.
>inb4 get a job
Yeah I tried, didn't really work out. Trying to get into the social security safety net somehow so I can get my life back on track with more education.
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>>5396212
>tfw 2 years in and still nothing that could be called boobs.
The only noticeable change HRT brought to my body is cellulite.
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>>5394722
yeah, I got a savings account, I'm good, but I really trust her anyways so i shouldn't need it

>>5394763
>surgeries

haha good one, as if I am not absolutely scared shitless of going under the knife, i can't even get my blood drawn, even when i'm out of hormones that doesn't motivate me to go anywhere a needle or anything like that
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>>5396036
>is 6 months in HRT enough to start seeing female fat distribution
Yes.
In fact the fat layer will start accumulating within a month of starting HRT provided you have the extra calories to build it. Your body is in puberty now.

>>5396222
Good luck! Taxing food seams ridiculous.

>>5396232
Do you have any idea what your pre hrt estrogen and testosterone levels were? I wish I did. My semen was thin and watery throughout my life, plus I had some previous minor breast growth. My nipples were even large for a guy.

captcha, a danger high voltage sign strapped to a telephone pole is not a street sign.
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>>5396553
Well, still save up for them. Who knows what you'll need the money for. Maybe a down payment on a house?
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>>5396565
>In fact the fat layer will start accumulating within a month of starting HRT provided you have the extra calories to build it. Your body is in puberty now.
I knew that much, but I was wondering about how much of a female fat distribution it is, as in say if I gained 10lbs in fat now, it'd be both on female and male areas in a 50/50 split if I'm early in, and if i waited longer and gained then, it'd be something like 30/70 male/female, if that makes any sense.

I'm just wondering if the body takes time to adjust figuring out where to store new fat at "full effectiveness" in a female distribution, when estrogen is now my dominant sex hormone. I've already noticed my butt is plumper, face is more feminine, waist is slimmer, etc.
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>>5396565
Well, given I had bouts of lactation and the gland tissue to go with it, there probably was excess E. Or maybe that was a long term effect of the self-medding I did back in the late 90s, don't know. And T probably never was really high given I wasn't too damaged by it, in spite of having none of the AIS causing genetic variants. Especially voice wise. I had to put some effort to manage a convincingly male voice, keeping it lowered and monotone at all times. It never worked 100%, especially on the phone. Dropped that when I came out and it probably would take time to find it again. I was told by a speech therapist there was very little voice training could do for me. Except when it comes to singing. I'm not sure it's worth spending time and money on that to be able to sing again...
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>>5395300
same, except i wasn't blessed by a tit fairy
only by a manbelly fairy
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>>5396604
It varies person to person. shits not cookie cutter for everyone.
Juuuust be patient, some things can take years on HRT.
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>>5396696
O-oh, I'm patient enough, I was just curious if it was worth gaining weight now compared to waiting and gaining weight later, is all. I'm fulltime already for what's that is worth.
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>>5396713
It's hard to tell then. Only way to find out would be to try gaining a little (if that's what you wish to do) to see where it goes.
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>>5396576
>save up
>no job

thanks for the life advice

I'm gonna be looking for one but it's just gonna be some shit dull minimum wage job where i'll just be dumping all my money into rent and food, there's no actual future for me
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Afternoon, girls. How's things?
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>>5396881
So so.
>had a nice lunch with my mom, feeling pretty good
>home now, dwelling on some things
>mom said she can't see me being a pretty girl while we were in therapy
>looking at old photos of myself with long hair and I'm inclined to agree with her
I havent even started HRT yet or anything but sheesh it makes me feel shitty
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So, implants are pretty cool. Just saying in case anyone here is on the fence about them.
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>>5396958
Did you just get them?
[spoiler]pics?[/spoiler]
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>>5396964
Nah, I've had them for a while now.
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>>5396958
How big is too big? I really want to go as far as possible with implants, without being gross.
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>>5397014
I mean, there's a physical limit that your surgeon literally cannot go past because your skin will not stretch far enough. I guess that's too big?
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>>5397014
Depends on your body size
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>>5397017
Well duh. I'm just clueless about how implants are now when it comes to softness and such, I don't want silly levels of perky.
>>5397019
I'm 5'11", 36 bandsize, skinny and experimenting with gaining weight to see how curvy I can get without being gross.
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>>5396978
oh you're a lesbo?
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>>5397034
Well I'd definitely say try gaining weight first and then reconsider.
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>>5397053
Well I'm currently just barely an A cup, I'll have to let them grow more of course, implants is just something I know I'll want down the line even if I end up at like a C cup, because I like huge breasts too much.
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>>5396935
HRT really does help it hurt less. You might still be a stranger in your own skin, but you'll feel like less of a stranger in your own head.

For the rest...well, there's surgery.
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>>5397074
Depends on the surgeon, look towards the ones that do the bigger girls and you can shove in a 1000cc's first try if you have enough to work with.
Most likely you'll get limited to 800cc's with any other surgeon, this is almost likely to be an overfilled saline implant btw so the incision scar won't be so big.
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>tfw miracles do happen
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>>5397141
Well I don't live in the US so it's not like I can just road trip to a surgeon who does larger implants. I live in Norway by the way.
But I guess I'd have to do it somewhere that's cheap, but not shit and spend my holidays there or something out of country.
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>>5397221
to some of us at least
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>>5396604
>I've already noticed my butt is plumper, face is more feminine, waist is slimmer, etc.
I'd say you are pat the changeover.

Who knows when full effectiveness kicks in, but I've noticed every time I loose weight I mostly loose it in the belly, then when I gain it goes to the hips, bust, and overall fat layer.

I can't remember the numbers, but skin cells are only around for only weeks. Intestine and stomach lining, just a few days. Rest of the gut 15 years. Fat cells around a decade. Brain cells a lifetime.

>>5396641
I wondered...

>>5396837
Never say never, hustle for better jobs.

>>5397014
Get inflatables, and have them increased in size a year later after you skin has expanded.
>>5397019
and how much breast tissue you have to fill in around them.

I strongly suggest looking at some of the sites for MtF breast implants. There are a few differences from natal females and they need to be taken into account.

The biggest issue I see with implants is replacing them every decade of so.

I'm hoping fat stem cell methods improve. At present about one bust size tops added.
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Dpeaking of embarrassing changes from HRT, did anyone here notice that if you don't wipe yourself properly after peeing you'll start stinking like tuna down there?
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>>5397490
Did you pick up a bacterial infection?
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>>5397504
If I did I would stink even after washing/wiping myself but I don't duh.
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>>5397490
I'm no-op until artificial organs so no tuna for me. I guess that's one of the few upsides, male plumbing is way more sanitary and easy to use.
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>>5397626
She clearly was talking about from HRT, not surgery.
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I don't know what to do anymore /tlg/ transitioning scares me because I just know I'll look ugly but I want to be a girl and I just don't know what to do ;_;
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>>5397654
That's what therapists are for. FFS can correct a fair number of face issues.
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>>5397626
it's really crazy how much more you have to clean yourself now and how everything was easy as a guy
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>>5397645
I don't know what kind of mess you're making to need wiping.
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>>5397626
>easy to use
I'd just rather have something I can actually use.
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>>5397719
pissing makes a mess dumbass
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>>5397045
I mean, Im posting here aren't I?

>>5397034
If you're trying to go big, it's important to have a little bit of weight. Otherwise you get the dreaded 'half-basketballs.'
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>>5389414
i consider myself bisexual so... lets go.

>penis

i love cis penis, their taste smell how it give lewd disease the best part of a cis man.

maybe it's for my internalized sexism, i can like penis in antoher trans woman, but is simply inferior agaisnt cis cock also, i consider myself "homoromantic bisexual" with woman i wan a egalitarian relationship with kinky sex, communication, love, etc., and with men (cis and trans) i just wan they fuck me hard, with domination, and be treated like a useless slut.

with trans man despite the lack of penis i can love being fucked by then, and i dont have troubles with vagins, just that, like cis men i just want sex with them, sex with them being dom as fuck, and i being a submissive bitch.

and as for my penis i dont like it, i can have pleasure with "it" but i dont like. with my actual gf we are done just 1 time PIV, and now we are estarting used dildos for penetration. so.... is useless i'm saving money for SRS.

>dildos

are gifs from the god to have pleasure in every way possible, alone, or with company. <3
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxpRkMxTMAE
daily reminder to take your mones
>>5389414
>what do you think of penises?
disgusting
>what do you think of dildos/do you own a dildo?
why.jpg
no
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>>5400129
omg the video
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>>5400129
>daily reminder to take your mones
tfw ran out of mones and new ones might not arrive until after christmas holidays
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>>5400129
you own a bunch of dildos to stretch out your smelly inside out penis though :^)
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So transbians only date other transbians, right? Cause there is no way a cis lesbian would be willing to date a tranni
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>>5400815
totally not emily pls
>>5400834
>Cause there is no way a cis lesbian would be willing to date a tranni
ayyy
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>>5400834
Well, I once did date a cis het terf. And I was upfront about being trans with her. She just didn't believe it was a thing until we got in bed. Then she dumped me because she wasn't into girls.
I know there's a slowly growing line of cis girls curious to be the first to try out my SRS crotch, but I'm not in the market for a relationship and I don't do one-night stands either, so those waiting to preorder will be disappointed.
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>>5400861
>I once did date a cis het terf

I am sorry you had to go through that.
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>>5400941
It was ok, actually. I mean, apart from her not being asexual as claimed, trying to make a real man out of me (that was comical, to say the least...) and asking me to forsake my dead lover. Other than that, we had many long talks and some fun times, so I don't regret it.
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>>5400834
i know this is bait but there's actually a cis lesbian girl that I know that would probably go on a date with me

but yeah I'm dating a transbian right now and I'm happy and that's what counts, I'm not ashamed of that
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>>5400834
>implying anyone would take interest in me, trans or not
C'mon now, I'm not stupid.
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>>5401151
Honestly, you never know. As much as I hate myself (and definitely wouldn't date someone like myself...), I keep in mind that there are women (and men, unfortunately...) out there who might think of me as a potential girlfriend and that I should be ready to give a just friends talk at any time. Actually, I wouldn't even be surprised if someone here had a crush on me.
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>>5401017
>probably

Btw does your girlfriend looks like girl at all?
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>>5401177
Wanna be platonic partners in misandry and self-loathing, then?
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>>5400200
>tfw same
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Good Afternoon tlg!
>>5400834
Sorry anon but I don't believe in broad-scale painting. I'm sure some cis lesbians would, but on that note I generally look to bisexual girls.
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>>5401754
I hate that boss.
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>>5400834
>tfw you have been in a relationship with a cis girl for the past several years now.

It can happen. It's just happenstance really in that you may or will have duds before you find one that works for the both of you.
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>>5401248
yes
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Are there any girls out there who would be okay with batshit tier clinginess and obsession?
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>>5402394
Yeah, as long as the deranged person is cute.
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>>5402421
how about if the deranged person is a goddess in bed?
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>>5402426
I never had proper sex, so I don't know how great that is supposed to be. Even if said person is a goddess in bed, if she looks like a man, I just... can't.
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>>5402433
> if she looks like a man, I just... can't.
wow androbodyphobic
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>>5402421
Post contact and tell me if im cute?
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>>5402436
;(
>>5402437
I'd love to see how you look, but I don't really sharing contact. Sorry.
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>>5402465
>mfw this crushed me
Yeah im batty...
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>>5402467
Sorry, baby. How old are you btw?
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>>5402483
22
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>>5402560
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>tfw trying to set up a vpn server for the first time
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>>5402748
>tfw i will never have a mid 40s powerdyke make me her bitch
Feels not too good
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>>5402854
>tfw I will never be the powerdyke
Feels less than ideal
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I met someone and in less than 72 hours we've managed to fall in love with each other in a way I never conceive; the sheer strength of harmony between our souls is the most incredible thing I've ever felt. I've never had such strong or selfless emotions for another being before but I'm so terrified of being rejected even the tiniest once she sees me. I know I'm not that cute, my head is big, my face is a bit off, I really need some proper dentistry and a haircut and probably FFS eventually and I question having ever uttered the word "love" without showing her to begin with. It almost feels selfish to an extent, how could anyone be expected to love someone who will always be somewhat rejected or judged by society even if they're able to look past my very obvious flaws themselves. I know it seems contradictory to my previous statements of the amazing connectivity we hold -- if she really is this ideal, and I do trust her, then there should be no issue -- but I can't help but feel doubt as every past encounter there's been an obvious degradation in my value to them after they've seen me.

I want to cry, please tell me it'll work out ;_;
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>>5402394
Yeah, it depends on how you express the clinginess, but most likely I wouldn't really mind personally.
Other girls who are really clingy might be okay with it too
The only thing I hate is when people have something against me and don't explicitely tell me until they hate me, but as long they're honest and shit anything goes really


>>5400861
>Well, I once did date a cis het terf. And I was upfront about being trans with her. She just didn't believe it was a thing until we got in bed. Then she dumped me because she wasn't into girls.
How did it even happen


>>5400834
But bisexuals exist anon


>>5397490
>>5397523
Cis girls don't smell like tune unless they have an infection anon, I don't really see why it would be different for MtFs since guys don't usually smell like tuna either
If it doesn't go away on its own I'd check it with a doctor if you can
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can i chill with you guys? i'm into boys but mtfg is 2hateful and toxic4me
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>>5403456
Sure, some of us don't like discussing boy drama here though, so keep that in mind.
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>>5403425
>Vaginal odor is any abnormal odor which originates from the vagina. An abnormal vaginal odor is often described as having a “fishy” smell.

>“I first noticed a really bad, fishy smell,” she says. “I’m a very hygienic person and it was just awful to have that smell coming from me.

>Helen, 23, had two episodes of bacterial vaginosis (BV) a few months apart. Now that she’s been given the all clear, she wants to encourage other women to seek treatment.

>About half of all the cases associated with foul vaginal odor is caused by bacterial vaginosis (BV). It is only after a medical examination by your doctor that you will discover you have it.

>When you smell a fishy odor between your legs the smart thing to do is to see your gynecologist to diagnose the cause of your smelly vagina.
Uh but I can't go to a gynecologist. This is scary. Should I tell my endo about it? Should I lower my E dose? I wash myself as often as I can and I eat yoghurt every day. What else can I do?
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>>5403425
I express it by being really interested in talking to you, wanting that interest returned, and feeling progressicely shittier if you go absent without explanation. Sorta like
10 minutes: ah well shell be back
30 minutes: discomfort
2 hours: emotional pain, decaying sanity
2 days: starting to go batshit and lose it

I try to not express this discomfort but its hard after the 1 day mark


Generally i feel emotion intensely so mild loneliness becomes hair pulling crazy feels

Id also do and accept a lot of things for someone who actually actively likes me
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>>5403530
I experience loneliness comfort and companionship intensely though, but not anger or malice
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>>5403530
Oh and i think about them 80% of the time and also want to draw and drink their blood
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almost time for airplane
>tfw 13th fligh in 14 months
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Evening, Ladies. How's everyone doing today?
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>>5403530
>>5403542
That sounds totally fine, I'm sometimes like that too so I get it

>>5403563
That is kinda creepy but also fine

>>5403527
Endo could be fine, and honestly it could go away on its own
Nothing to be scared of, it's not like you're gonna die from smelling like fish
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>>5403617
>wanting the lifeblood of your lover to be a part of you
>creepy
I mean i guess, it just sounds nice to me *shrug*
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>>5403456
Sure, as long as you 1) keep the cock lust to yourself and 2) don't bring anyone else from /mtfg/ with you.

>>5403600
Rough. It's that time of the year when I actually have to deal with my extended family. I have a feeling that there are going to be fireworks on Christmas this year.
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So, have been wondering ever since I started posting here, are there any girls here from Perth, Australia?
My transgender friends are all fucking ftm's and sjw's, so hanging out with them to talk through some trans issues is always a negative experience.
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>can't date like a normal girl
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>>5403921
Date like a weird girl, then
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>>5403638
Ooh, I'm sorry. I know how rough that is. I know it's not going to be easy for me either dealing with extended family.
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>>5403936
>tfw your entire personality is built upon being a weird outsider
>tfw it works
nothing quite beats the all black goth ninja look on a barely fem tranny for pulling in other cuter weirdos
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>>5403985
Yeah, I don't have the energy to try and deal with them this year. I'll go a few days without shaving beforehand, throw a sports jersey over a compression shirt, and pray that none of them bother trying to socialize with me.
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>>5403569
Why you flying?

Earlier today K told me the jet I first crossed the Atlantic in was scrapped. It's airframe failed an inspection, and it was too close to maximum airframe hours to justify fixing. Kinda feels like an old friend died. I spent over 2000 hours in that plane.

>>5403638
>>5404336
*hugs* Hope it goes much better than you expect.
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>>5403638
My extended family has been more supportive, even enthusiastic for some, than my close relatives. My father is completely indifferent, my sister was fine with it at first but has gone jealous of my looks and silhouette. And it took almost two years for my mother to admit I wasn't "going back to normal." I'm not sure my grandmother is even aware of the change. I mean, she also has a lesbian granddaughter who's been out for ages and in a steady couple with a total butch and it took them getting married for her to understand they were more than old friends living together...
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>>5404360
Christmas with gf and her family
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>>5405495
You know what's worse than Christmas? Spending it in a madhouse...
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>>5405524
:(
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>>5405706
Right now, I'm sitting across something that looks like a female Garth Algar, only uglier and well, less coherent, at least from the way it loudly rambles on its phone.
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>>5403921
of course you can't, you aren't a normal 'girl'
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>>5404449
I've decided (right now, actually) that I'm not gonna put up with their shit this year. If they want to give me a hard time about my gender presentation, I'll just let my psychotic sailor side out for a while.
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>>5405812
Whoops, dropped my trip.
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>>5405524
*HUGS*
>>5405744
The whole time I was in I never saw the general population. It was so fucking lonely being there in the cell hour after hour, day after day. I saw nobody but the orderlies and shrinks.

>>5405812
Anger has helped me some. Not sure how much, but for somebody who never had outbursts before to become aggressive was a shock to many.
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>>5396978

Could anyone point me to the timeline pic for this girl? The first pic was a tall guy with black hair at a party looking at the camera.
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>>5394526
How rude
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>>5405880

gotcha
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>>5408204
oy what a good balabusta
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>>5405855
Well, officially, I'm here on a voluntary basis. I let someone bring me to a GP who sent me to the ER and I got to pick the clinic I went to rather than being committed. Chose this one because they don't deal with severe mental illness, so they hesitate a lot more before drawing the big guns than the public hospital shrinks do. So I'm beginning my ninth month at a place that mostly deals in short term stays for reactive depression, occupational burnout and rehab. And they don't dare tinker with the live grenade they see me as, especially after the lactation debacle in the first weeks. So they mostly leave me alone. Being trans earned me a single room, the best they have. Larger than what most young people live in, with a double bed and a full bathtub. All covered. I'm free to take my car and do whatever I want in the afternoons. So I can't really complain.
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>>5408204

Thanks, senpai. Nice to know a nigga's got ya back.
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>tfw this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxUNj26e480
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>no big boobied gf to make chubby
I... I just don't know...
;_;
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>>5408962
>tfw I'm chubby
>tfw gf to force feed me and rub my belly and play with my boobs

feels good
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>>5408964
>>tfw gf to force feed me and rub my belly and play with my boobs
Pls stop ;_;
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>>5408971
Why? Don't you have someone to do that to?
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>>5408973
>Why? Don't you have someone to do that to?
Y-yes...
>No ):
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>>5408991
I'll fill you with delicious cakes and baked goods made from scratch with love and care
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>>5408991
Awh

>tfw gf busy with school work
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>>5408971
I agree with this anon, pls no bully ;_;
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What's the dominant/submissive ratio among transbians?
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>>5409354
I'd say around 1:50 and even then the one dom is a switch at best.
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>>5396958
I am on the fence about it.

I can get them for free because I have less than an a cup. I would really prefer to have natural, though. I was secretly hoping that my endo could do something about it but I guess not. I was told that srs could make your breasts grow a little more afterwards.
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>>5409359
So you're saying I can get my pick of the litter?
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ded
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>>5409510
ping
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>>5409371
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>>5409371
Basically. Dont bully and cheat tho
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>tfw no gf to be the big spoon
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>>5410099
>tfw no gf to bully me in dark souls pvp
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>>5410153
How good are you 1-10?
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>>5410167
6 or 7 maybe, in dark souls 2 that is. I'd prolly win a lot more games if I went with dark resonant chaos blade or cmw ice rapier instead of trying out fun weapons so it's a bit hard to gauge.
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>>5410282
I'm okay myself, maybe 7-8, but I am probably very rusty now. I was one of the most indicted people on dark souls, I kept invading as a red in the gank forest while I was a NEET.

On dork souls 2 I just did silly stuff that was never meant to be good to begin with.
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>>5410295
Hopefully dank sauce 3 brings infinite invasion orb back. Just 4 months left, too bad there's no cross-platform multiplayer.
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>>5410323
I am not sure if I'm going to enjoy it, Dark souls 2 burnt me out really badly for anything souls.
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>tfw everyone here is a cute chubby submissive girl

I love y'all :3
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>>5410859
Hey, I'm not chubby!
[spoiler]But if I don't start exercising or eating better that's gonna happen soon[/spoiler]
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>>5410879
It's okay, I'll take good care of you~
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>>5410859
I'm a switch, sorry anon I don't think I count
>>5410099
I hope you find someone in due time Kia.
>>5409510
Sorry, been kind of out of it lately.
>>5409354
I'm a switch that leans domme, but I'm a fair bit of a rarity as far as I know.
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>>5410892
You will?
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>>5410859
People say I'm cute though they mean the way I act is cute. I'm quite submissive too but not chubby at all
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What's your dose, tlg?
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>>5410859
>chubby submissive girl
And all I want is a tall dominant girl :x
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>>5411286
50+50mg Cypro, 2+2+2mg E.
I don't why I need so high AA, but my T levels get too high on 50mg a day or i.e. 200mg of spiro a day. Why can't my body just give up on producing T already. ;-;
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>>5411304
>Why can't my body just give up on producing T already. ;-;
shouldn't that happen after some time on blockers? i want to lower my cypro dose because it seriously fucks up liver metabolism in the long run if you are on it for more than 7 months and i still haven't figured out if am getting orchi or srs
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>>5411286
50+50 spiro, 2+2 estradiol

>>5410964
I should just steal you. Then we can run off to Vegas and get married before the chloroform runs out. >:3
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>>5411451
Eventually yes, my T just really wants to spite me. I'm 6 months in HRT, but only been on Cypro for 2, I think? Time passes fast, wah.
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>>5411286
100+100 spiro. Ran out of E but it was 2+2
Gonna swap to 50 cypro when my next shipment arrives
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>>5411451
I always thought you're supposed to be permanently on cypro/spiro if you're a non-op.
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>>5411545
Yes, but after a long while of HRT it will take your body a long while to start producing again if it's been nuked the whole time. You should still take your dose, but missing one is less severe when you get to this point.
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>>5411557
7 months is not a long time in the grand scheme of things thus I'm a bit confused
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>>5411570
I was thinking more about a few years in, when you're at the point where your testicles almost become jello.
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>>5411557
does it really have any sense taking high doses of AA even after a long time? i am not talking about stopping AA altogether just taking a low maintenance dose, say once every second day since cypro's half life is 48 hrs

i think i am allergic to cypro since i got those itchy bumps on body and my therapist gave me the green light on managing my cypro dose but i am scared that a lower dose will not be enough and those masculine features will return
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>>5411632
>i am not talking about stopping AA altogether just taking a low maintenance dose, say once every second day since cypro's half life is 48 hrs
I wouldn't know for certain, in theory that can work.

Those itchy bumps can be coming from low Aldosterone levels by the way.
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>tfw chubby partner
>tfw with a lot of hard work u've been able to gain weight too
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>>5411286
I take 2 Mg Estradiol, 2.5 Mg Medroxyproestrogone (probably spelling that wrong) and 50 Mg Spirolactone in the morning.

4 Mg Estradiol and 50 Mg Spirolactone in the evening.

Though I've also been on my meds for several years now
>>5411465
Sure know how to make a girl feel wanted, oh my.
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>>5411286
4mg Estradiol in the morning
A shot of lupron once a month
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>>5410892
>>5411101
>Every girls has cowtits
>every changeling wants cow tits
C'mon people.
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>>5411930
What's wrong with cowtits?
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>roommate went through personal shit and foubn meds
>showed/told a bunch of people that I was trans
>roommate then went through computer and found nudes
>Showed nudes (and videos) to other people
>Also went onto my steam account and bought shit with my debit card
>nobody told me that this happened
>i learned directly after I drove him 7 hours to his house
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>>5411930
I've always had an immense love for cowtits, of course I want my own.
>>5412012
Holy shit what the fuck.
This is what you need a password on your computer and steam guard enabled for though.
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>>5412054
I had both
I walked off to the bathroom a few times and didn't lock it though
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>>5412012
Can't you actually get him in legal trouble for doing that shit? I know in some states it's against the law to release i.e. nudes of someone else without their consent.

Also contact steam support to get your money back.

I'm sorry how it's gonna affect your social life though. ;-;
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>>5412349
>it's against the law to release i.e. nudes of someone else without their consent.

getting proof can be hard though
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>>5400834
Most to nearly all, but some don't actually always stay on their side of the tracks like they should.
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