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REMINDER THAT TRUMP IS PRO LGBT AND WANTS TO DEFEND OUR FUCK
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REMINDER THAT TRUMP IS PRO LGBT AND WANTS TO DEFEND OUR FUCKBOIS FROM THE MUDSLIME HOARD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuNqNEAIbSA
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CAN'T
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>>5355809
STUMP
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>>5355813
THE
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>>5355807
He realizes that the people south of the border are catholic and thus purer christians than most of the US, yes?
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Oh, oops, this poor broken combo, I feel so bad, you have no idea how much, really, it's such horrible timing. ;-;,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
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>>5355807
i'm ready for trump
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>>5355807
Pro-LGBT, or pro-LGB? This distinction is important.
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>>5355807
>pro lgbt
>[citation]
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>>5355807
Trump has been sent to us from God. I will follow our fuhrer anywhere. Don't fuck this up America!
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when will this "Trump" meme end

at the end of the day he is literally a meme candidate so
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>>5356054
President Trump is going to happen. Get on the trains out of our country, or get in the ovens, Juan. Maybe if you're lucky, he'll let you build some of the wall first.
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>>5356054
I thought he was a meme candidate too, until I learned that real people were voting for him. I wish that they were just meme people.

I have friends in the States, and I'm not looking forward to their nation being looted by the head of state.
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>>5356073
You're worried about the US being looted? That's what's been going on the past 30-40 years! Trump is the only candidate proposing to stop it! He is the only candidate who stands up for the real will of the people, not the stock market, or sjw's, or globalists.
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>>5356054
Reminder trump is leading polls, whereas the meme man sanders himself is losing pretty much everywhere

Since we can't have Rand, we at least have trump. He should have a big following here too, since this board was like 80% /gaypol/ when it started
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>>5356012
this desu
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>>5356085
So "sjws" don't count as part of the American people? Of course Trump is going to support the will of the "American people" if you define it in such a way that excludes everyone who disagrees with him.

>>5356089
That's not really meaningful at this point, since we don't even know who's going to get nominated at this point. They're definitely both meme candidates, though socialism is more reasonable than libertarianism desu.
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>>5356012
He's pro LGB but not T. Trannies deserve to get thrown under the bus. If they haven't already thrown themselves under one, of course.
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I"ll never understand why nationalism is so popular in America, race baiting and immigration banning, reallocation of funds to personal pet projects like Israel who can't stop crying wolf. I guess memes are what are considered the highest intellect in society now.
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>>5356106
>He's pro LGB but not T.

Great
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>>5356106
LGB have pretty much won their battles though. Now that gay marriage is legalized, no one can really get away with being openly homophobic, even in regions where that used to be acceptable. But for trannies it's much worse, and the fact that the right is trying to make them all look like whiny feminists just for wanting anti-discrimination protections like blacks and gays have isn't helping.
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>>5356112
Does it make you disappointed enough that you'd blow yourself up for Allah? Go home, Mohammed.
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>>5356163
Uh, what makes you think someone who doesn't see the appeal of nationalism is some kind of islamic terrorist?
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>>5356185
That's Americans for you. Anyone that isn't a meat eating, gun loving, right wing nationalist is obviously an Islamic terrorist.

The Cold War and 9/11 really fucked their shit up.
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>>5356163
I agree blind nationalism and crony corporatism is best governance, I better call my folks to vote for Hilary since we are going full retard at this moment.

Or you can see that such aggressive social policies have an impact on labor and resource movement, as you're removing two of the largest pools of cheap labor [arabs + hispanics]. Don't worry I'm sure the "strong and empowered" women of feminism would rise to the challenge to have gender quotas to fill those gaps. :^)
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>>5356112
Nationalism is popular everywhere. What is wrong with being in support of one's nation?
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>>5356185
>>5356199
Then get the hell out and go live with them. See how fucking tolerant they are. Don't ruin our country by letting them in, assholes.
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>>5356112
Nationalism is an American invention.
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>>5356226
Nice definition by your logic North Korea is really a democracy for the people.

Okay on an serious note, the fact America is dealing with the islamic problem is because your lame attempts of securing Iraq with your standing army, what was the point of Bush Iraq War if you're going to drop the ball this hard? Oh right don't challenge the hegemony of America I forgot.

>>5356237
I live in in shithole where they already did a coup and held their 15 minutes of fame. Afterwards, they were laughed at of power, and regarded as a joke as any ideological overreach should be treated. Don't blame me because your afraid of dealing with the problem like an actual citizen.
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>>5356237
>point out that you can be skeptical of nationalism without being an islamic terrorist
>"Well if you like the middle east so much, why don't you move there?"
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>>5355821
TRUMP
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>>5356106
>He's pro LGB but not T.

even better
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>>5356294
If you hate nationalism, then you support diluting our national identity (e.g. bringing in shitloads of shitskins). Fuck off.
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>>5356315
I never said that I hate nationalism, merely that I'm skeptical of it. And even if I did, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm in favor of bringing in "shitskins", unless you'd consider say Norwegians and Japanese to be "shitskins" as well.
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>>5356151
It's a really fucked situation. LGB turning into T because they got what they wanted and suddenly being a bigot is a-ok when it's not against you personally. And the most vocal defenders of T rights are the regressive racebaiter rape culture intersectional feminists.

Why cant there be a rational liberal humanist movement looking out for rights of everyone but not advocating for "positive racism/sexism"
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>>5356333
>LGB turning into T
*turning against T
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>>5356315
>If you hate nationalism, then you support diluting our national identity (e.g. bringing in shitloads of shitskins). Fuck off.
Nigga, just a decade or two ago the national identity was straight and there are many politicians that want to bring that back. I don't, like, are you retarded or something?
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>>5356315
I bet you would suck my dick if i told you to lol thats a good white fuckboi
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>>5356012
When the general public talks about the gay community they're usually, but admittedly not always, also talking about trans. Normies tend to see LGBT as a single community and not as L+G+B+T as separate entities supporting each other
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>>5356315
You're a painful idiot aren't you? [Assuming you're conservative] People like you would nonstop whine about liberal government overreach yet in the same breath put Trump on a pedestal as the "savior" meme of America with his aggressive social policies that will lead to new protectionism, for your freedom of course. Learn to center.
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>>5356315
>if youre not with us you're against us
tumblr/pol-tier kneejerk stances pls go and stay go
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>>5356370
Well yeah, trans is kind of implicitly in there, but unless you know trans people you're not likely to have them in mind. To most people, lgbt just means homosexual and they don't really think about trans.
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>>5356373
Conservatism is dead. We need National Socialism. We need a leader like Trump.

>>5356364
Lol. Did I say you could stop picking cotton, boy?
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>>5356283
>Okay on an serious note, the fact America is dealing with the islamic problem is because your lame attempts of securing Iraq with your standing army, what was the point of Bush Iraq War if you're going to drop the ball this hard?
Actually the Islamic problem has much more to do with our unwavering support of Israel and Suadi Arabia. Most of the terrorism that destabilizes the region is because of those two, so it's complicated because we have a faction here that wants to see destabilization in the middle east. Trump has said he would not have gone into Iraq in the first place but he says since we went we should have left more troops, so maybe you would agree.
But it's not worth too much discussion here unless lgbt related.
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>>5356422
>Conservatism is dead. We need National Socialism. We need a leader like Trump.
National socialism is conservative though. Don't be fooled by the word "socialism", national socialism is just big-government nationalism.
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>>5356434
kek

i think one of the best illustrations of how left wing, modernist and revolutionary the nazis were is how they viciously attacked old school conservatives who opposed conscripting women into war factories as being backwards and reactionary
the person who i'm responding to likely won't understand why that's a big deal of course, but perhaps someone who is a traditional conservative will
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>>5356477
The Nazis were socially conservative (in favor of "traditional values" and national identity) and favored a large government, particularly a powerful military and the economy to support it. That's my reasoning for classifying it as big government nationalism. Some of his social programs do sound leftist, but that was probably the only way to get public support in the great depression, no one is going to vote for you if you don't have something to offer them.
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>>5356477
You do know, like, actual historians and scholars say Nazis are mostly in the far right?
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>>5356494
they're to the left of center on the political compass, you can claim that the soviet union was also socially conservative since it hated gays and wanted a powerful military and heavy industry and flooded the outlying republics with russians to keep minorities in the USSR down
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>>5356506
do you know like, actual historians say the opposite too?
there's no such thing as historical consensus on damn near anything, what you need are facts
you're just appealing to authority when none exists
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>>5356423
The fact that Israel is given any form of legitimacy is a joke and I don't mean the whole Palestinian/Israel divide, Netanyahu is such a reactionary liar I'm surprise America is even diverting so much as a dollar his way to fund his self victimizing war. Not saying they aren't getting attack now but picking fights and crying every time a missile goes over their wall? Come on.

I can't comment too much on Suadi Arabia since day one, destabilization..in their favor was one of their goals. Not surprise by the lack of fucks given to Syria.

>>5356477
I guess we conveniently left out the part where he took these initiatives during a depression period and from what is listed on this meme are geared towards improved public health under government control, He also declared a master race,engaged in the militarization of society and held traditionalist views [I wonder where are all those homosexuals, physically disabled and mentally ill individuals fit in this model :^) ]. But hey I guess that's why liberals really love the militarization of police officers today in America and Standing armies in the middle eas- oh wait no they don't.
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>>5356512
Sure, the USSR was socially conservative, there's no denying that. They're classified as leftist based on their allegedly communist economy; did the Nazis actually have or plan to implement socialist/communist policies beyond a war economy?
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>>5356521
>I guess we conveniently left out the part where he took these initiatives during a depression period and from what is listed on this meme are geared towards improved public health under government control
DUDE ITS JUST ONE TIME LMAO
fucking Roosevelt said the same exact thing, and
>improved public health under government control
is socialism
just admit you're a socialist and not a conservative
racism is not a right wing thing, militarization is not a right wing thing (using liberals in america as an example is piss poor, look at the soviet union), anti gay is not necessarily a right wing thing, hating the DISABLED is definitely not a fucking right wing thing you fucking edgy fedora
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>>5356524
they implemented nationalization of industries all over the place, a policy generally considered socialist
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To those who think he's anti-T keep in mind that there's nothing to back up that he is. He has not given us a reason to think he's transphobic and anyone who claims that he hates trans is lying to you
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https://books.google.com/books?id=smMEAAAAMBAJ&q=%22Donald+Trump%22+AND+%22gay+rights%22&pg=PA27&dq=%22Donald+Trump%22+AND+%22gay+rights%22&hl=en&ei=-RWWTeCDEuLeiAKun8WdCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result#v=snippet&q=%22Donald%20Trump%22&f=false

Keep in mind that this was over a decade ago, but I haven't been able to find anything to suggest his opinion on this matter has changed.
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>>5356562
He just said in a recent fox news interview that he doesn't care about gay marriage, it's the law now, and we have more important things.
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>>5356534
I know, that's why I was asking if it was done merely as part of a war economy. I recall reading that Hitler was generally opposed to the socialist ideology, specifically that it rewarded people who didn't do anything or something like that.

>>5356544
There is reason to be cautious though. It's clear he's opposed to "political correctness" which is what the trans community is often associated with in the public mind, and generally anti-trans bigotry tends to be associated with the conservative side. After all, a large part of being conservative is believing in "traditional values" which trans people pretty much go against. Pretty much the only time transgenderism is compatible with social conservativism is something like what they have Iran, where sex changes are seen as a preferable alternative to being gay.
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>>5356529
>anti gay isn't a part of conservative traditionalism
You're kidding right and I didn't conflate modern day America right wing brand of conservatism with Hitler's national socialism, don't put words in my mouth. You're acting as if there isn't a variety among conservatism and as if fascism is unable to manifest.

>communism boogeyman
The only thing closest to fascism on the liberalism branch since were referring to Lennonist and Stalinist, an actual example congrats.
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>>5356518
Yeah, except, the majority agree they're right-wing. What, because 3% of scientists disagree with climate change mean that it isn't factual?
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>>5356585
commies hated fags up until the 60s
>>5356606
was there a study? and no it doesn't the FACTS would mean its factual
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum
counter the FACTS, fag
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>>5356632
>FACTS
You mean that unsourced poster? You don't need to argue against facts if they're not supported by evidence.
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>>5356654
ok then
At first, Schacht continued the economic policies introduced by the government of Kurt von Schleicher in 1932 to combat the effects of the Great Depression. The inherited policies included a large public works programs supported by deficit spending – such as the construction of the Autobahn network – to stimulate the economy and reduce unemployment.[24]

The Great Depression had spurred state ownership in most Western capitalist countries. This also took place in Germany in the years prior to the Nazi political takeover. The Nazi election programs also supported nationalization of major industries
. A number of economists, starting with Michal Kalecki, have seen this as an example of military Keynesianism. However, while Germany was successful at rearmament, production of agriculture and consumer goods stagnated, and standards of living fell. Production of agriculture, particularly, rarely exceeded 1913 levels.[4] Rather than sparking an economic boost, Schacht’s form of military Keynesianism created a powerful army and what Professor Richard Evans in his history, “The Third Reich In Power” called, “grotesque consequences for the everyday life of ordinary Germans".[33]
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Thanks OP for distracting me from my studying to watch all of Kyle Kittlesons video because I started crushing on him hard after watching that video.

I think Trumps a fucking idiot but goddamn that guy gets me going
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>>5356632
>commies hated fags up until the 60s
Homosexuality was illegal in USSR up until its dissolution.
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>>5356326
Nationalism is a response to people fucking with your country. In times of peace, it can be basically a totalitarian dictatorship like in east berlin during the cold war. When the administration of your country is beating around the bush about ISIS, you know something is fucking wrong.
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>>5357710
It's also practically modern day Japan. It's like the fascists were taken down in Germany but everyone forgot about the little island.
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>>5357741
Considering how America influenced their constitution and post war government and have a comfy military base there, I doubt we forgot it.
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>>5355807
Trump is probably not pro LGBT, he's pro gay, pretty big difference between being pro trans and pro gay.
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>>5356572

Doesn't matter if he's not going to executive order and send airbourne to divorce gays. Because of the fuck democracy branch, if a judge dies in four to eight years he will appoint an anti woman anti lgbt candidate.

He said in an interview with Howard Stern that he is against gay marriage and abortion. All he needs to do is pick a like minded judge and it's as good as out lawing it from the first day.

Republicans getting people to vote against their own interests with race baiting? News at eleven
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#TRANNIES4TRUMP
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Your an uncle tom gop house faggot. You can't be lgbt and vote republican. It's impossible. Unless you are a self loathing closet case.

>Trump is pro lgbt

No he isn't. Stop this meme. Trump is a Christian fascist Nazi.
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>>5357435
I always found this funny. Nazi Germany only illegalized homosexuality after his Rohm betrayed him. At first it was legally ok, but still a social taboo, to be gay in the Reich. The Soviets rounded up an executed gays on day one and yet when someone's homophobic we call them Nazis instead of Soviets. I think calling a homophone a Nazi should only be done if they were accepting at first but then became bigoted. If someone was always homophobic calling them a Soviet would make more sense. Considering that the people who tend to hate gays are usually Neo-Nazis or some mainstream conservative group they'll be a lot more offended if you call them something communist related.
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>>5356333
>>>/r9k/
Seriously, can you not stick to mra-tumblr?
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>>5358689
Nice shitpost m8
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>>5358710
A shit thread deserves no better.

>>5358581
It was never legal.

> The Soviets rounded up an executed gays on day one
Homosexuality being legalized was one of the first moves of the Lenin administration along with removing all imperial morality laws from the books.

You really need to learn your history from somewhere that's not doublechins.
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>>5358270
>stop this meme
>Trump is a nazi
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>>5356106
>If they haven't already thrown themselves under one, of course.
pic related?
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>>5356089
>can't have Rand
>let's pick an authoritarian fuck face as a good substitute
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>>5360741
lel oh my god this gif
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I'm actually not certain Trump has any problems with trannies; do you guys have any sort of hard proof here? All I'm seeing is stuff related beauty pageants he runs where some tranny was disqualified for not saying they were trans but Trump later saying she was allowed to participate. I think he might not give a shit about us, in the best way possible.
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>>5361726
Why should anyone give a shit about us when we just want to be as normal as possible without turning what we are into some clique community thats currently trendy?
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>>5361789
That's what I'm saying though, I approve of the attitude.
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>>5361802
=b
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>>5361616

You just described every other candidate. Well, except for that one sniveling coward.
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>>5356315
>you support diluting our national identity
Do you even AMERICA, brah? That IS our identity; we're a nation of immigrants and refugees from the Old World. Remember that the next time you're drinking cheap Guiness on St Patrick's Day, or you hear Christmas carolers sing "O Tannenbaum."
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>>5361938
You don't think that after a certain point we've formed our own cultural identity independent of outside immigration?
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>>5361938

>we're a nation of immigrants and refugees from the Old World.

We're a nation of European settlers. And immigrants/refugees from Northern Europe are not interchangeable with ones from the Middle East or Mexico.
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>>5361988
>Immigrants/refugees from England and Germany are not interchangeable with ones from Ireland or Italy.
This is what your kind sounded like in the 19th century. The ethnicities have changed, but the argument has not. The Know-Nothings are still with us; they just vote Republican now.
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>>5362019

The cultures may not be interchangeable, but they are compatible in ways that Middle Eastern and Mexican cultures are not--at least, not in their current form.
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>>5361979
Even if we had, that wouldn't mean "diluting" would be a bad thing on its own.
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>>5361988
I'm native American. Everything I hate about this country comes from how European it is, including Muslims, which are always being imported by Europeans. Your kind weren't happy enough ruining this country on your own, now you even import those cockroaches.
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>>5362104
I don't see it as diluting, it's an evolution. But not a good one. There is no reason for us to import people whose cultures are so far behind our own at the cost of our own people. When we have re-stabilized we can begin helping them, in the meantime they should look to helping themselves.
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So, about the meme we created about Trump being transphobic. Are we going to spread that over social media to slander him or is it just an inside joke, like the Ben Garrison thing on /pol/?
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>>5362345
it really just doesn't work senpai
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55NxKENplG4
no one cares about trannies anyway
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>>5362108

You would think whites would be more cognizant of how bringing in massive numbers of foreigners all at once and displacing the native population always ends badly for said native population, considering they've gotten so good at it over the years. I guess white guilt is finally propelling them to commit cultural suicide like a bunch of lemmings.

Hopefully Sweden and Germany collapse long enough in advance for the rest of Europe and America to get a clue, I have no interest in living under Sharia Law.
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>>5356315
This is such a false dichotomy that it hurts.

Being proud of the geopolitical area you were born in is moronic, but that doesn't mean I want to import a bunch of backwards Muslims that would throw me off a building if they became the majority.
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>>5362366
One of the arguments the social left uses *for* bringing in hordes of Muslims and Mexicans is that Europeans came here illegally, in large numbers, and refused to assimilate with the local culture. I have no idea why they think this is not an argument against it but white guilt would explain it
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>>5362390
>Being proud of the geopolitical area you were born in is moronic
How so? Wouldn't being proud of your homeland help motivate you to keep it as great as possible? People tend to take better care of things they're proud of
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>>5362390
you don't have to be "proud of your area" to like it and the people in it more than outsiders
THAT'S nationalism, wanting your own homeland
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>>5362413
It might have a positive impact on a person, but being proud of something you had absolutely no control over is dumb.
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>>5362426
It's not about being proud to live within a certain designated border. It's being proud to be born within a community. It's being proud to be part of that community and being a part of what makes it great. It's pride that comes from giving to that community and enjoying what it gives back.
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>>5362425
No nationalism is having a strong affinity and sense of identity with your nation (i.e. group of people).
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>>5362450
>It's being proud to be born within a community.
Just a coincidence.

>It's being proud to be part of that community and being a part of what makes it great. It's pride that comes from giving to that community and enjoying what it gives back.
This sounds nice, but it makes no sense because the vast majority of the country are complete strangers to you and do nothing for or with you. Sure, be proud of your neighborhood and whatever you accomplish there, but the entire US?
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>>5362401

White Guilt is the ONLY explanation I can think of for it. I mean, they're literally saying that they're committing cultural suicide in their argument, so I can only assume they think they all deserve whatever they get or something. I honestly find them more disgusting than racists. Like, racists I can understand, in the sense that hatred of the "other" is so deeply ingrained in the human psyche that it transcends race entirely. But people who hate their own race so much that they feel they deserve punishment for the actions of people who are long dead that they may not even be related to completely baffle me.
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>>5362468
>Just a coincidence.
So? Who cares if it was a coincidence. Why shouldn't I be proud of being part of a community instead of fending for myself alone on some island in the middle of nowhere? Being born gay or black isn't something people choose either but does that mean gay pride or black pride is stupid? Should the gay and black community feel silly for being proud over something they had no say in? Does it matter that most gays will never meet the majority of gay people and will do nothing for them or blacks the same?
>This sounds nice, but it makes no sense because the vast majority of the country are complete strangers to you and do nothing for or with you
Which is shitty and should change. Uniting under nationalism will fix that.
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>>5362546
You're falsely equating a community someone would regularly interact with and the entire nation.

>does that mean gay pride or black pride is stupid?
Yes. It makes sense to take pride in things you actually accomplish not roll-of-the-dice genetics.

>Uniting under nationalism will fix that.
Nationalism is dangerous because it undermines individuality and leads to groupthink.
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>>5362578
Name a political ideology that doesn't lead to groupthink
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>>5362613
There is none. That's why being highly ideological is dangerous.
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>>5355807
You people are morons
http://www.extremetech.com/internet/219085-donald-trump-proposes-closing-the-internet-as-a-way-to-fight-terrorism
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>>5362655
>internet shuts down
>people are forced to go outside and interact with each other
Sounds horrible
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>>5362495
"Cultural suicide" isn't really an idea that exists except in the mind of social conservatives. And if you think about it, the idea makes no sense. Any sort of interaction with different ideas could be considered "cultural suicide". America has probably committed cultural suicide several times each century since it was founded. It's not inherently a bad thing, it depends on whether the exchange of cultural norms is beneficial or harmful.
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>>5362655

Oh look, yet another article taking his quotes out of context. He was referring to preventing ISIS from using social media as a recruitment tool, specifically.
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>>5363032
>We have kids that are watching the Internet, and they want to be masterminds. And then you wonder why we lose all these kids, they want to be masterminds; they're young, they're impressionable, they want to join ISIS.

>And we have our anchors—I think I've got 'em mostly stopped, have you noticed that, they don't say it as much—but they say, the 'young mastermind', oh he's brilliant. I don't think he's got a high IQ. In Paris, I called him the guy with the dirty, filthy hat. 'K? Not a smart guy, a dummy. A mastermind? Bing bing bing, starts shooting everybody.

>The press has to be responsible; they're not being responsible. We're losing a lot of people because of the Internet. We have to see Bill Gates and a lot of different people who really understand what's happening and maybe, in some ways, closing that Internet up in some ways.

>Somebody will say, 'Oh, freedom of speech, freedom of speech.' These are foolish people, we have a lot of foolish people. We've got to maybe do something with the Internet because they're recruiting by the thousands, they're leaving our country, and then when they come back, we take them back.

>'Where were you?' 'I was fighting for ISIS.' 'Oh, come on back. Go home, enjoy yourself.' When they leave our country and they go to fight or go to ISIS, they never can come back.

Yeahs some great context there.
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>>5363032
>>5363042
Populism sinks into people who want simple answers to complex questions. That's trump's entire campaign plan and unlike some other candidates who peddle easy answers, he actually has no fucking clue how to do politics. He's not even a sockpuppet like the 2nd bush.

As entertaining as it might be, I dont envy muricans if trump gets elected.
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>>5356106
>>5356139

That stuff with Jenna and the universe pageant says otherwise.

Respectable society doesn't care about manchildren like you.
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>>5362468
>the vast majority of the country are complete strangers to you and do nothing for or with you.
>but the entire US?
What baffles me are people who think exactly this and even to the point of bashing nationalism, yet think "feeling proud and connected" to the entire fucking world is not only perfectly possible, it should be the standard of every human being.
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Rand Paul is so much better than Trump (who's just a meme candidate).
But we all know it's gonna be Hillary.
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This is sad, people in the internet will literally humor this meme and actually vote for a fascist for the "lols". Remember when everyone was complaining that black people only voted for Obama because he was black? Well this is much worse, except the voters are retarded "lel I troll u" faggots in their early 20s. Enjoy watching our constitution get shat on, you cunts.
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>>5361726
If this was 2012 I bet he would openly shit talk trannies, but now that it's beginning to become accepted he won't bother ruining his image by stating what he is obviously thinking, just look at all the unethical stuff he wants to do to Muslim citizens in the US, he's allowed to say that because the media has conditioned the public to think that way as well, it's fucking edgy, but you can't call out trannies now since trans SJW shit is in full swing thanks to the media.
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>>5364379
>implying
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>>5366553
what unethical stuff does he want to do to muslim citizens?
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>>5366519

Trump isn't a fascist and I am unironically voting for him, don't fear the oven Ahmed :^)
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>>5366519
>pro LGBT
>wants to dissolve obamacare and create single payer healthcare
>pro abortion (but you won't hear him speak about it again until he's won the primary)
>wants to increase the tax on the wealthy and dissolve current loopholes
>wants to dissolve the birth and death tax
>wants to rebuild crumbling infrastructure
>wants to protect our borders that allow tens of millions of illegal aliens that end up costing America 50 billion a year
>wants to implement temporary hold on Muslim immigrants until government figures out how to handle ISIS much like how Obama implemented a 6 month hold on Iraq immigrants in 2011
>wants to protect 2nd amendment rights

Hell, I bet he'd even legalize marijuana at some point too.
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>>5366706
have them tracked in a database. which is kinda question of what info the government can keep a database on all citizens on, but having a religious test makes it pretty clearly a first amendment problem

force them to carry special ID.

ban all immigration. not a citizen issue, but clearly a first amendment problem.
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>>5366519

There is literally nothing wrong with fascism.
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>>5366889

>have them tracked in a database.

You mean like what's already been happening for over a decade? Trump isn't saying anything that hasn't already been going on under the Bush/Obama administrations.

>ban all immigration. not a citizen issue, but clearly a first amendment problem.

No, it isn't.
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>>5367101
A lot of people don't like big government.
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>>5366553
I don't think that's true, it sounds like you're thinking of Hillary. Remember that Trump was cool with homosexuality long before Hillary changed her mind for political convenience. And there's his actions with his pageants. Don't think he cares about trannies one way or the other on a general scale.

>>5366889
Freedom of religion is increasingly outdated, I'm loath to abandon any freedoms but the freedom to (and I need to put on my fedora here) believe in ancient superstitions that fuel acts of violence isn't one we should have anymore than we should have the freedom to rape, murder or steal.
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>>5367116

I'm still trying to figure out where people are getting the idea that everyone has a "right" to immigrate where ever they please.
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>>5366702
The leaders and sponsors of the Democratic Party don't want him to win. He won't take bribes from corporations and wall street. The Dems have just as much to gain from keeping money in politics as the Republishits. That's why they want Hillary to win. She'd take a bribe from anyone. He'll If she wins Trump could just bribe her to get that wall built
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>>5366753
>Hell, I bet he'd even legalize marijuana at some point too.
Considering how profitable it would be, I'm sure. His whole life is built around making money so he knows dank green
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>>5367430
The jewish media, and jewish school system have rotted people's brains.
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>>5367542
It's a financially sound decision all the way around. More tax revenue, cuts prison population by 40%, lowers drug law enforcement by the same amount, and opens up a new avenue for non-marijuana hemp products.
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>>5367542

From what I've been able to dig up on his stance regarding the issue, he does not seem opposed to the idea, at least for medicinal purposes, and says it should be something decided state-by-state. Even further back he has brought up legalization as a solution in reference to the fiasco that is the war on drugs.

Now, the man himself seems to be a saint as far as drugs are concerned. He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and he doesn't do drugs, but he's not preachy about it, it's just a personal choice he's made.
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>>5367710
He was the same way with gay marriage. He doesn't think gay people should get married but wouldn't attempt to stop one. He has a "I'm not into it but whatever" kind of attitude and it's nice to see liberalism in modern US politics.
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>>5367783
Why is he so cool.... Gosh...

Still not voting for him though.
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>>5356012
Didn't he let that transwoman run for Miss Universe?
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>>5368845
Yeah but after there was a public outcry from her being banned. Technically she had surgery done on her which is why she was knocked off but it's also likely that he just doesn't like trannies.
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>>5368891

>but it's also likely that he just doesn't like trannies.

[Citation Needed]
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>>5368891
Considering he was treating that contestant the same way he treated the cis ones and that he supports the right of LGB I doubt he's transphobic. There's just no reason to think so. So far all the claims of it are because he wears a pin with an elephant instead of a donkey. Not really much proof considering how much he hates the GOP and is just using them because the Dems won't take him and an independent can't win in modern America
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>>5362350
Can't Stump
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>>5370271

Regardless of whether he wins or loses, I hope that Trump's candidacy causes the GOP to collapse in on itself and fracture so that a new right-leaning party can emerge from the ashes while all the simpering cowards who can't help but fellate the Left wing media like it was their father's cock can go off in the kek shed where they belong.
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>>5356106
>visiting this board the first time
>first post I read is this
>have been laughing the past 5 minutes
thanks anon!
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>>5370843
Not the poster you're responding to but I sorta agree. I hope Bernie or any Dem wins but if a republican were to win I hope it's trump. The GOP leaders and the Koch brothers seem to really hate him and it would be nice to see their blood fueled empire fall apart from the inside
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He's also a meme
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I'm truly amazed that the working-class loves him, they will regret it
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>>5371584
>not voting for a meme
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>>5371646
Thank god I don't need to vote for any of them because I'm not a citizen of USA
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>>5371535

It'd be even better if Bernie's candidacy split the Democratic party as well. There are a surprising number of people who, if Hillary is the candidate, will still not vote for her even if it means a Republican president (whoever that might be).

https://archive.is/3RvlA

Imagine: a United States without a two-party system. Even if it just became a four-party system, it would be glorious. Sadly the chances of that happening are slim to none.
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>>5371630

Why wouldn't they love the guy who's going to be deporting unskilled illegal laborers en masse and starting the largest public works project in the history of the United States in order to keep them out?
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>>5356089
Bernie Sanders beats every Republican candidate by a more significant margin than Shillary. He just needs to secure the black vote and he's got it.
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>>5371722
Not to mention he's going to stop the dangerous religious wackos from doing to us what they're doing to Europe
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i wish i was american so id vote trump
i wish i was american so i had guns
i wish i was american so i could marry another man
i wish i was american but they have bad food and food products sadly
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FUCKING TRUMP IS BASED AS FUCK
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>>5375311
You can find any kind of food you want in America, friend.
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>>5375311
you probably only think our food is bad because its made by whatever filthy people you call your own
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>>5376317
>>5376322
>>5376326
>>5376338
I'm talking about things like vegetables, GMOs and other genetically modified crap in everything.
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So, here >>5361938
We're apparently not diluting an identity
But here >>5362104
Now it's okay because the current identity needs diluting.

I think American culture is something that doesn't need more dilution, it needs protecting, and building.
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>>5362108
Well you traded your land for beads so lol who cares what your mouthwash drinking ass thinks
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>>5362057
Honestly Mexicans are in somewhat compatible: Western religion, language and values, and capitalism has Americanized Mexico (and most of the world). Hell, Mexico has gay marriage too, as do a bunch of latin american nations. Asians are compatible too, qt flip male nurses and chinese students don't really trouble anyone.

We'll be completely fucked, however, if we let in Muslims in the same way Europe does. I'd rather have 10 chinese people or a mexican family than a single muslim in the US.
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I was already supporting Trump before I knew this

>people here still drinking the leftist koolaid and supporting Hillary "disgusting criminal" Clinton and Bernie "communist c-uck" Sanders

Spoilers my fellow faggots: The hordes of muslims and mexicans we let in won't be so tolerant of you.
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>>5377344
The mexicans and other south americans coming across the borders aren't the progressive cosmopolitans you're thinking of.
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>>5376691
if you have a moral disagreement in GMOs I understand

but there isn't any actual evidence that genetically modified fruits and vegetables are harmful to consume. ask a fucking scientist. it's all baseless fear
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>>5377411
I'd rather have Brazilians than Arabs, that's for sure.
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>>5377411
Spics get whitewashed so fast it doesn't even matter. You might as well view them as just darker white people because that's what they are basically are.

Source: I'm a third gen spic that doesn't speak a lick of Spanish.
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>>5377432
I'd rather have neither, and hey it's actually possible too!

>>5377438
>Spics get whitewashed so fast it doesn't even matter.
Yea that's totally why they retain their cultural instead of assimilating and are practically taking over cities in the SW.

>You might as well view them as just darker white people because that's what they are basically are.
White people who statistically commit more crime than whites. To be honest, we're going to be a minority pretty soon and I'd rather not facilitate that by importing more brown people, to be perfectly frank. Nothing against them, it's more about preserving us.

>I'm a third gen spic that doesn't speak a lick of Spanish.
Good to know your experience represents the entirety of hispanics, thanks amigo.
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>>5377438

[spoiler]I'd agree, but holy fuck you guys need to stop voting Democrat every election so the Lefties aren't so inclined to go full open borders just to secure dominance.[/spoiler]
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>>5377438
you must be one of the rare family lines with more than 2 brain cells
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>>5377452

>White people who statistically commit more crime than whites.

They look white to me! :^)
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>>5377452
The vast majority of Hispanic criminals aren't actually citizens. I highly doubt amnesty or some bullshit is going to happen anytime soon; it's never been a popular position in the US.

>I'd rather not facilitate that by importing more brown people, to be perfectly frank. Nothing against them, it's more about preserving us.
Nobody said anything about bringing them in by the truckloads. Immigration has been done for the past few years anyway.
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>>5377463
Jesus christ.

All the "white hispanics" stay in their nations because they can make a living there. We recieve the refuse who can't: these low IQ spics that are only good for doing manual labor. Many of which don't even give a damn about being American, they just see us as a platform to make a living off of.
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>>5377480
down for the past few years*
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>>5377480
>The vast majority of Hispanic criminals aren't actually citizens
This is exactly why Trump is a necessity.

>Immigration has been done for the past few years anyway.
and it's been a dumpster fire.

Back in the day before the immigration reform we HEAVILY monitored and restricted who could come in and from where, it was for the purpose of cultural and ethnic preservation. But the current establishment prefers white Americans to die out because they tend to be the largest group NOT voting left, and that's a problem for them.
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pic and song related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox4IRQVGsBU
>>5376691
You're right, GMOs are unnatural and therefor wrong. I almost spit out my artificially fluoridated water while I was getting my flu vaccine when I heard someone admit they ate something GMO. Why would you willingly put something in your body created in a cold, unfeeling laboratory instead of letting nature take care of you?
>>5377406
But if we're nice to them they'll be nice to us, right?
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>>5377495
>Back in the day before the immigration reform we HEAVILY monitored and restricted who could come in and from where
Which immigration reform are you talking about?
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>>5377452
>I'd rather have neither, and hey it's actually possible too!
kek not at this point m8. Dems won. If Trump doesn't win this election, it's game over. And even if he wins, his fantasies about banning muslims/immigration are not getting a pass in the Congress.

Contrary to popular belief, we're not actually handing out citizenship to everyone who asks for it, most immigration comes from family reunification.
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>>5377528
Not to mention that neither party wants to stop illegal immigration. Both parties are control by huge corporations and both want the cheapest labor possible.
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>>5377452
>we're going to be a minority pretty soon and I'd rather not facilitate that by importing more brown people, to be perfectly frank
We should learn from our experiences with black people and stop making people dependent on government handouts. That and the drug war completely killed black families.

Honestly, I'm not opposed to either welfare or immigration, but having both at the same time is nonsensical. It makes more sense to be nationalistic in a real ethnostate, it's not like anything unites Americans anymore but the love of money.
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