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>>5279334
First for uh
Tea Chan is my waifu and yume is queen of shitposting
>>5280874
> tfw not American
what's thanksgiving for? Something to do with Pilgrims and Injuns right?
fags
>>5280896
it's a dumb holiday and I hate it
>>5280916
But you get a week off right? We don't have anything like that here. At most things just long weekends and individual days off (unless you count school breaks)
everyone wants to be a giiirl gah
so frustrating in a way
>bf: i would be a girl blablabla
>bf: i have my girly ways and such
<me: yup okie are you sure i mean .. what, well if thats how you feel you should find out more and talk about it
>bf: im not sure, i think i can live with this
okay?? well why are you stressing me about it
>a friend: you know girls have it so much easier blabla
<me: it has its perks but so does being a guy.
its just about how you feel about your body and such.
>a male friend: well i wish i was a girl
<me: okay look into that then.. if you really feel that way??
>a male friend: nah thanks its too much im fine
the male friend doesnt even know im trans, just talking to me like to any girl, being all jealous. I mean it just makes me feel bad about myself when i find out that every person sooner or later gags out " i wish i was the other gender " then im all panicking for them and trying to be supportive. " oh never mind lol."
Also the fact that people actually want it at times but for such wrong reasons or just not enough? It kinda makes me a little grrrr..
(oh and no bf isnt living through me, was once that he mentioned it and i got on my toes and tried to make him tell me more about it and telling him i wont just leave him or stuff like that)
seventh for kayla please be my irl friend
her tits are already big enough, why ruin them with unnatural sacs placed in by a butcher?
boobs ;_;
>>5281274
Boobs
>tfw hairy boobs
>>5281291
>>5281300
>>5281298
>tfw still hairy and no boobs
Gonna start HRT next month, cannot wait.
is this /boobgen/?
>>5281321
Boobs.
some days I feel like there is hope but today I feel pretty terrible. I wish I could ask people how I look but I don't want to get hug boxed or made fun of. I'll need surgery at some point for my face. That's certainly highest priority. I can deal with everything else if I have to.
>>5281347
do you want someone to tell you you're cute? or do you actually, legitimately want someone to tell you you're not passing? what would either response actually change?
>>5281345
Is there any list of insurance providers that'll cover transition stuff?
>>5281371
tfw no one doing this to u
>>5281463
Kaser Permanente.
They are totally fucking terrible but they do it.
![[Vivid]+Owari+no+Seraph+-+19+[21131540].mkv_snapshot_09.39_[2015.11.23_10.32.58].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LRxlz99.jpg "[Vivid]+Owari+no+Seraph+-+19+[21131540].mkv_snapshot_09.39_[2015.11.23_10.32.58].jpg")
xth for wanting boys to notice you.
>>5280871
first for futureless perma-hon with no potential at 20 years old
http://pasteboard.
co/2mocFDRl.jpg
>>5281298
>tfw wide-set cone boobs
>>5280896
Food.
>>5281571
>why doesn't anyone think im trans
>better post my unshaven face again
How many transwomen here self-medicate with HRT? I've heard mixed things about it and want to get everybody's opinions here
help my nipples are crying is this normal?
>>5281959
No go to a doctor
>>5281886
selfmed 4 lyfe
What does saline do?
>>5282054
>>5282072
???
>>5282072
is that actually hitler???? nice to see ya buddy
>>5282088
Hey bud
>>5281536
>wanting chasers
>>5282102
how goes it
>>5282118
Im doing pretty good tbqh
>>5281571
Fuck, how ca you even grow that? Like if you were trans wouldn't it make you feel awful?
Anyways, I haven't epilated my face in about a month and this is all I have, so fun times...
>>5282095
Does it make other parts of your body huge? Like when you do a plasma donation they give you some saline.
>>5282147
The fuck, you can epilate your face? I've always heard that just leads to scarring and poor results.
Who is your anime husbando mtfg?
>>5282122
hey Jose ! I hope everything is going good with you. I don't think we have talked since the plug ! :3
>>5281959
They're not leaking or anything but if I pinch them clear fluid comes out. I've already emailed my doctor I'm just trying to quell my mind.
>>5282163
Depends on how hairy you are/how thick it is?
>>5282178
I'd say about average. I couldn't grow a beard even if I wanted to but it's definitely thicker than normal body hair. How long do I have to be in HRT to start to get rid of body hair in general btw? Epilating feels like I'm fighting a losing battle, a painful losing battle.
>>5282152
I don't have a fucking clue, I just know its a fetish for some people, just google it
>>5282187
Well I only have about 5 hairs in the picture, so I'd say you're too hairy to epilate...
Non trans/straight person here.
I was dating a girl until recently she revealed to me she has a penis. I don't have any attraction to her anymore because of it but I still like her for who she is. She's really butthurt because I don't like penises, what is the best way to not hurt a transpersons feelings in this kind of scenario? I really don't think I'm doing anything wrong, it just not my thing.
>>5280852
I'm going to end my life before the new year.
No I'm not kayla. No I'm not one of the non passing girls. I have realized that none of this is real. My whole life has been a fucking miserably pile of shit. Parents never accepted me, society never real and the fact that I'll never be a biological female, the fact that I was given a female brain in a male body was a death sentence from the beginning. there was no hope from the fucking beginning.
What even fucking KILLS ME THE MOST on the inside is I never had that normal female childhood, the normalcy of a loving family, that white girl suburban american dream.
I don't even want anything sexual anymore. I'm fucking disgusted by it so much. I just want to be a little girl with no cares and her whole future ahead of her. People always say I'm only 19 and have my whole life ahead of me. Fucking bullshit. I'm not good at anything except memorizing fucking useless historical facts. Because of that and my major society insists I must become a teacher. I refuse to do that.
The next few weeks I guess its just going to be choosing the final way out and really kinda just doing what I want the last things for me to do in this life.
I'll stick around a bit longer if any of you want to change my mind. I'm really set on this now.
If so goodbye /mtfg/ and 2-3 years of lurking.
>>5282232
Tell her you're sorry and that you'll learn how to love the cock. :^)
Who wants to give me hrt?
>>5280971
sure, who are you?
>>5282251
My double dubs have spoken. Get on your knees for her, boy.
>>5282249
i'm an anon from california and someone on mtfg told me to make friends with you
i'd tell you what most people call me but some people on mtfg hate me with a burning passion and i don't want to be bullied ;_;
>>5282259
If you are ugly she won't be your friend, m8.
>>5282272
what the fuck is ageplay?
If its what I think it is with roleplaying then no. My body is fucking huge and masculine
>>5282278
but if you find someone who really loves you, they'll be able to make you forget that.
hi
how is everyone tonight
>>5282282
they always say the first step to getting someone to love you is to love yourself
thats fucking hard to do when you hate yourself
i don't know what to do anymore besides fucking end it
>>5282277
help me, please. i don't know what to do and it won't stop
>>5282295
I guess you could take hormones, unless you are looking for something more immediate
>>5282295
What do you want us to do?
>>5282294
get used to it. you're not the most beautiful creature on earth and you have your flaws. you either find someone who loves you and you stop being self-absorbed or you do whatever else you were going to do.
When I was much younger I knew a tgirl who had a nice guy who liked her, but she couldnt stop whining that she had a penis all the tiem and acting mentally ill that he eventually left when she told him to. Now she's in her mid 30's, alone living with her dad playing nintendo wii games by herself desperately trying to get someone to love her
>>5282295
get some weed
>>5282294
ask a qt grille on mtfg to be your friend and non-sexually pat your head and feed you candy
seriously, though, it really doesn't matter. your agony is a sliver of what is to come. killing yourself won't make you happy. just get a mom or something.
>>5282317
We can't fix you, sweety, we can't even fix ourselves.
>>5282317
The best thing for now then would be to sleep I guess
hahaha i love how squishy boobs are
squish squish poke poke
>>5282339
yeah I thought about trying to talk to a friend on skype but I have been whining and crying too much lately. i'm gonna watch a movie and try to forget and fall asleep. thanks
>>5282347
post a picture
>>5282347
You're welcome
I hope you feel better, I'll battling dysphoria right now too
Hugs
I was posting in a trap thread a bit ago and everyone in there was calling me a cutie and then someone from mtfg pop'd in and was calling me a hon and stuff and I realized that its this place keeping me down and unhappy.
>>5282358
trap thread, where?
>>5282359
on /b/
>>5282358
Kayla pls don't leave, you seem pretty cool
>>5282358
lmao that was me
>>5282367
I won't leave, I just won't give merit to the people here that constantly call me ugly when I get called cute all the time.
>>5282370
you should trap-attention-whore on /v/ if anything, shame they delete trap threads now
>>5282372
Well I am wondering since hrt is really taking full effect and I am passing more and more if I should do camming for money.
>>5282358
you get the same reaction here. some people say you are cute and you pass and some people (including me) think you are ugly.
>tfw you paint your nails and they're shiny and nice
>>5282341
squishing soap between them in shower is best.
>>5282379
>tfw you paint your nails and you fuck up terribly
Oh well nobody makes the first jump am I right?
>>5282374
A few days ago you said hrt stopped doing anything and now it's taking full effect. Which is it?
>>5282379
post pic
>>5282382
LOL yeah I tried my fingernails and after they dried I started to panic, it looked like a retard dipped their hand in paint. Now I will just go to one of those asian nail places, my mom raves about them
>>5282384
I was depressed then, that night my step dad almost hit my mom over me being trans so I had to say something to keep the peace. Of course I would never stop hrt for anything.
>>5282390
get your brows threaded too!
oh and get something done with your hair at a salon!
>>5282399
I have to wait on all that till I can land a job or move to seattle, Its one or the other right now, I just have to wait and see. Also I need electro first and foremost.
>>5282397
It's ok Kayla, I love you and hope you never leave
>>5282406
whatever you do, put aside $200 to get a manicure, pedicure, nails, hair and eyebrows done
>>5282147
Maybe she just is at a point where she doesn't feel anything anymore. I would get like that when I worked.
>no time to shave
>already late
>gonna be there the whole day so Im gonna feel shitty anyway
Dead inside, just one more thing to the list of reasons I wanna die.
>>5282379
Would love to paint mine but not allowed to working in food industry. bleh.
dumb part is I still have to wear gloves anyway.
>>5282423
where do you work?
>>5282428
Seafood factory. smart job choice for a vegan.
>>5282432
i have a crush on you
>>5282402
;_;
>>5282432
yikes
I hope you find something better soon
>>5282432
you could always make fish soup for your friends
am i supposed to condition when i shampoo, or all the time?
>tfw sent a boy a pic of my butt and they ask if i'm really not a cis girl
Is it possible to pass at 6 foot? I'm pretty big with broad shoulders, the only redeemable features might be my eyes, hands and feet.
>>5282453
Like I was surprised, you are so cute, you are too good to work in a place like that.
>>5282465
>Nope nope nope.
:(
>>5282453
because you seem cute and tsundere
>>5282463
stop stealing my images
i know who you are and i know where you live
>>5282473
I've got your name! I've got your ass!
You will not laugh! You will not cry! You will learn by the numbers, I will teach you!
>>5282464
oh. ty!!
I started here before I went fulltime because I needed skittle money and stayed to help earn for surgery. It worked for a while, but it's full of macho type guys and old people that are still conservative so I get teased now. I could probably report and cause shit with discrimination laws but i'm too shy.
So yes, I should get the fuck out of here. Trying to get into makeup store or other retail for now but they all want experience now and I only have factory work. (this one, and a cabinet manufacturer)
>>5282479
who's that, John Wayne?
>>5282483
Who said that? WHO THE FUCK said that?! Who's the slimy commode of shit twinkle toed cocksucker just signed her own death warrant?! Nobody huh? The fairy fucking godmother said it! Out fucking standing! I will PT you all until you fucking DIE! I will PT you until your assholes are sucking buttermilk!
>>5282481
lol you are like me in a way, all I did before transition was macho man stuff like construction and race engine building. I tried to apply to Macy's cosmetic counter, they were hiring nearby but my job history is all messed up.
>>5282479
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=812ycdrtWdk
>>5282489
Sir I said it sir.
>>5282495
Post your war face!
>>5282503
You didn't scare me
Work on that.
Nice meme desu
I wanna hug Kayla!
>>5282511
Me too
Kayla a cute
>>5282511
I wanna hug everyone
Who is the nicest girl on mtfg?
>>5282518
kit
>>5282518
Elanna, bexe, and kit
>>5282516
Can I have one too?
>>5282518
Kittles
>mfw watching the new h3h3 video
>>5282524
yes silly, everyone can
>>5282522
>no erin
you fucked up
>>5282518
elanna, kit, erin
>>5282528
Aww yes
Hugs
>>5282358
i-i'll c-call you a hon if you w-won't be my friend, kayla!!
>>5282529
fuck. I did forget Erin. thanks for reminding me
>>5282500
you have a nice body baby?
>>5282528
KAYLA A CUTE
>>5282550
I wanna be a cute like Kayla
>>5282557
nn kayla
>>5282557
Night Kayla
Have a good sleep
lemme steal Kiwi's pics again
>>5282557
Good night. I think you are ugly but it doesnt mean I hate you. Good luck with selling your bike
>>5282242
Why do you want to end your life when you dont even know what life is really like. You're 19. You can always kill yourself whenever you want. Why not give it a few years. Whats the worse that can happen?
>>5282563
>don't have a body
yeah right i bet its nice like a skinny cis girl
I know that feel
I really hate the fuck that I will never ever be female no matter what. But I guess the only thing I can do is just try and look the part.
also
>I'm not good at anything except memorizing fucking useless historical facts.
You're like me, that's my talent too.
Please don't kill yourself, I hope you will be ok
>>5282574
>I really hate the fuck
What the fuck is wrong with my brain?
>>5282242
cut your balls off lol
>>5282432
>Seafood factory
Eww I bet it smells worse then that lesbian night club I went to.
>>5282242
>What even fucking KILLS ME THE MOST on the inside is I never had that normal female childhood, the normalcy of a loving family, that white girl suburban american dream.
Jesus christ why would you even want that, you can be perfectly happy by just attentionwhoring on steam, and ERPing as a little girl if that's your thing
>>5282559
rude
u
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>mfw it's 55F outside
>>5282600
We must distribute the trip's images equally
Also nice dubs
>>5282601
Can we swap, it is 67 here but gets hotter
>tfw suddenly struck with massive dysphoria
time to sleep it off i guess
>tfw jerking off in the mirror moaning your girl name while you check yourself out and kiss yourself in the reflection
Passing life is so good.
>>5282623
Is today dysphoria day? I feel like a dysphoric mess too.
>>5282627
>I will never know this feel
;-;
>>5282632
I want cold, it's getting hot here and I can't wear long clothing anymore.
God damn it I just want to cover up my disgusting self ok
>>5282614
why not :b
how tall are you?
A lot of signs are there.
I can't deny them.
Is it worth it, the social consequences of HRT?
There's a career ahead of me.
I try to lay low.
I don't like being a freak.
Fear of relatives disowning me.
Fear of friends sexualizing me.
I wear solid black and keep to myself.
I don't really care about sex.
I've felt this over 10 years.
Feelings don't leave but are tolerable.
When I bathe I like to imagine myself female.
I am jealous of women not for normal reasons.
I hate this.
I managed to forget for a while.
This heinous board made me remember.
>>5282639
5'5
>>5282656
Jealous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8i_a6F_K0I
Elanna's theme song desu
>>5282651
I personally feel as though HRT was the only way to alleviate internal struggles. Whether or not that translated to a more vibrant social life? I honestly can't say that was the case. I keep to myself, but I do have select good people around me. Luckily, I'm in a creative field where people tend to be more open-minded; I'm not sure I would've been as accepted in other vocational fields.
If you were able to repress these thoughts without this board, maybe you're doing a disservice to yourself by being on here? Just some food for thought.
you belong in a museum
>tfw will never have boobies big enough to tittyfuck myself with.
>>5282685
T-they'd have to be pretty saggy wouldnt they?
>>5282683
Hey Yume
I saw you /gsg/
You play?
>>5282687
Hi Jörmy, how's the Aussie weather been treating you?
>>5282685
Gross
>>5282692
Ok, we've only had one hot day and it wasnt so bad.
>>5282688
I've been going on /gsg/ since /v/. I used to trip/namefag/avatarfag there
>>5282703
Sydney seems to be going good
Melbs had a few hot days but mostly they've been warm
![amusd[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/GHFfsFP.gif "amusd[1].gif")
>>5282683
>>5282685
Consider it a revirginization.
>>5282707
Yume got good taste desu
>>5282679
Not them but I find myself wondering if a life spent suppressing these thoughts is worth it. Is it really worth pushing this away forever? Dealing with sporadic breakdowns when something triggers them a bit too hard? Or is it better to just go for transition and live life as something I cant escape that I am?
going to bed early tonight
g'n /mtfg/
>>5282720
Night
Image steal again btw
>>5282716
I'm not sure if it would've been worth pushing this away. It would be a mere guess at this point. I do entertain the question - had I not transitioned, would I have been one [i]those[/i] people in the same tier as mid 40's cross dressers? It's case-dependent and only you can ultimately make the choice yourself.
I'll tell you one thing, though. I'm about to turn 25 in a few months and I've been on HRT for nearly 7 years. I wish I had found a way to do it sooner as I feel my face has been butchered by puberty. ;)
>>5282733
at least you've started before you turned 20 :/ I'm 26 and have only just started accepting who I really am
>>5282733
26 and I haven't even started HRT.
Consider yourself lucky.
Like, why even bother at this point now? I'm fucked :(
>>5282733
I basically expect this if I dont transition:
>Ive been wrong the past 3~4 years Ive really been aware and dealing with this and I successfully live my life as a happy male
>Ive been right and Ill still want to kill myself years from now. Maybe not even years. Its only 2 years until I can both drink my sorrows away, drink myself to death, or shoot myself. Or a combination of any of those.
And yeah puberty hasnt been too kinda. I have a bunch of acne scars Im gonna need to hide with makeup. At least I still look like Im 16~ or so, everyone always thinks Im in highschool at least and Im still a guy for now.
Its just so weird for me. Nothing gets me this upset. I have been through a lot of shit that would normally emotionally/mentally damage someone and I came out fine from that. Parents divorce while Im a kid? Meh. Mother is/was a heavy alcoholic which I got to see how bad that could get myself in my early teens? Meh, not really feeling anything. Suddenly I become aware transgirls arent creepy old hons and I could actually become a passable woman, and that I even want to in the first place? I cant take this anymore please kill me.
I just dont like the idea that Im gonna spend the remaining 81 years (assuming I live to 100 naturally) just avoiding thinking about this stuff as hard as I can. It might be a little easier once I get medicated for OCD but even once I thought this was gone for good stuff would pop in once in a while and be like, Hey remember me? Its GID/Confusion, just wanted to make you feel like shit again, ta ta~
Im sorry I promise Ill stop venting here all the time soon, first therapy appointment tomorrow should help.
>>5282753
vegetable glycerin supposedly helps with lightening/getting rid of scarring.
And it makes your skin soft.
>>5282752
I know that feel :( I still got my psychiatrist to get me an appointment to the trans clinic just because
>>5280852
Okay so why did you remove the tinychat link yet again? This is getting pretty damn annoying
>>5282750
I didn't mean to redraw some demarcation for you to compare yourself to. I do feel lucky having had the earnesty back then, but if I were to start comparing myself to other people there would be no end nor merit.
>>5282754
Ill look into that, thanks. Not much has really stopped my acne, and I think Im getting a new pimple on my lip. My dermatologist really wanted to put me on Acutane but I dont think she realizes if it makes normies depressed its gonna make me feel so shit I lose my restraint and kill myself.
>>5282761
who the fuck uses tinychat lol
>>5282761
>not being in the skype group
small time
>>5282766
Well it was pretty nice before people started taking the link down over and over again. Also free of random chasers that the kageshi room has
Do trans girls like buff hairy guys or do they mostly like more twinkish or smooth studmuffins?
I NEEEEEEEEEEEED A BOY/GIRLFRIEND
someone hold me pls
>>5282772
me too anon ;~;
>>5282753
Good luck at your appt tomorrow anon. You'll come out feeling better.
what music do you all listen to?
>>5282783
Fffff
Im on my phone so I can't post cool collages
I've been listening to Kashiwa Daisuke a lot recently, its really sad stuff though
>>5282783
GG ALLIN :)
hey thread how do I stop being sexually messed up and like actually enjoy things more ??????
>>5282783
dunno where to find collage so I'll just link things
https://grst.bandcamp.com/album/plague-seed
http://music.disasterpeace.com/album/rise-of-the-obsidian-interstellar
https://soundcloud.com/jakazid
https://soundcloud.com/dil
https://soundcloud.com/shemusic
http://www.4ad.com/artists/grimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7b2LlbvAwQ
>>5282490
Yupper, worked for Subaru, GM, and other assorted factories. All quality control at least, but I'd much rather work some place where I can get discounts on clothes ;_;
>>5282775
Kit confirmed for bi.
This is gonna make a lot of people here very happy ;)
>>5282503
Never sell your bike, its like selling freedom. Well I suppose you could sell if it was to buy a street bike of some kind.. I'm an alternative hipster chick I can't give up mah freedoms.
>>5282703
Where in Aus are you actually from? I'm living in the NT right now but moving to melbourne ASAP
>>5282799
Oh moving to Melbourne? Melbourne is great but weather is weird
>>5282796
Just saw she went to bed, replied to emptiness. Ah well.
Sigh the Seattle thing right? I should move there and just have a house for transitioning trans to the Pacific Northwest lol.
>>5282796
>What does Kit look like?
Qt as fuck.
>>5282800
I've lived in Alice Springs for 20 years. Any weather is better than this, I'll just be glad for some regular rain.
>>5282796
>Kayla fairytales
You all must be new
>>5282805
It's like dragontales, with out the dragons, or the dragonberries.. Ugh now I want to go to Ikea.
>>5282793
omg shell ! i swear i read that anon post as boyfriend UGH > > i must be like dyslexic orrr something idk.
i like boys ! < <!
anyway how are you qt?? :3
>>5282813
Shiiit if you want to come by that's no problem to me. Speaking of, how the hell is it all you ladies don't know how to do nails?!
I'm a total hon, yet I've got years of conditioning with single mother and all females around. Guess it's easy for me o.o
>finally got around to playing bastion
shit man, that's the best game I've played in years
>>5282819
I only have brothers and my mother never taught me this stuff.
Shit I don't even know how to tie hair, I'm no good at being a girl.
I purchased some ready-made BD toys the other day and had sent a ticket in immediately after placing the order because I used the wrong billing address.
My order is still in processing even though it should have been shipped the next day.
I'm wondering if their "next-day shipping or it's on the house" promotion is good or if I fucked up by sending a ticket in (contacted the staff)
>>5282814
Im really really good. Just been hanging out with family a bunch and stuff.
How have you been? Are your exams over yet?
>>5282823
So its settled, Kelly Vee's home for honeys. An academy for all those who can't paint nails, do hair, highlight/contour, or coordinate clothes for their shape.
I want to smell Jörmy's hair
>>5282825
i'm good ! i'm glad you are doing so well as well!
my exams are at the end of this week so i'm just trying to study and stuff in the heat rn @_@
>>5282826
B-but what if I fail to pass?
>>5282793
>tfw you're so disgusting that literally nobody cares that you're bi
>>5282823
Time and effort solves most problems
I'm finally learning this stuff (by) myself and its an adventure
my butt is sore
>>5282831
I'm a quick learner, so it shouldn't be too hard to learn.
>>5282832
lewd
>>5282829
This shit..
>guy transitions
>mannerisms on point
>voice is great
>as much done to be qt3.14 as possible.
>still an ugly chick
There's the difference, there ARE ugly people, its a fact of life. Please separate the idea of being attractive versus being female.
Using Nair Shower Power sensitive on places no hair-melting chemical should go.
Wish me good luck.
Will report on results within the hour.
>>5282839
Nope, I did a poll awhile back and 20 out of 23 voted to be beautiful and not pass vs being ugly and passing
>>5282801
Gonna call it the house of vee? Gotta be like those houses from Paris is Burning
>>5282839
But I'm really tall and broad shouldered with a long face. Is there still a possibility of me passing?
>>5282846
Absolutely not
>>5282844
Meh, imo the rest is a process. A balance between what's the most nonpassing attribute and what you can afford to change.
>>5282846
Oh and yeah I'm aware some things can't be changed. Sorry.
>>5282850
I'm just worried these features will doom me to never pass
If I'm an attractive boy, will I be an attractive girl?
>>5282854
I see, I mean at least you are honest.
>>5282855
No that's not how it works.
Attractive boy makes ugly girl
Ugly boy makes attractive girl.
>>5282855
it depends on why your attractive
are you an attractive pretty boy or a handsome man?
the former: probably, the latter: probably not
