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Look at you. You're saad that people are meeeaaan? Well
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Look at you. You're saad that people are meeeaaan? Well im sorry the world isn't one big liberal arts college campus; we eat too much, we take our spoiled lives for granted and feel a little bad about it sometimes.

Now; you want to put all your shit up on the internet and have every single person say "Hooray for you"?

Fuck you, you're all pricks!
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>complaining about people complaining
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>>5276372
yes, yes i am.

im tired of this SJW bullshit people keep putting everywhere on the internet and expecting people to just feel bad about how everyone is mean Well you know what fuck you you narcissistic piece of shit go cry to your Liberal arts teacher if you want someone to hold your hand through the everything and the people who put up with your shit are right now on suicide watch. Congratulations fucker.
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>>5276400
No one's making you listen to us. Why should you not listen to us mean we have to shut up?
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>>5276360
What does this have to do with being gay?
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>>5276405
>No one's making you listen to us

Hahahahahaha! Holly fuck are kidding me?
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>>5276407
Nothing im going on a rant here.
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>>5276360
>>/trash/
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>>5276411
Who's making you? You can walk away you know, no one's making you come to this board?
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>>5276372
>sincere ancient memay
>actually butthurt over sp on 4chan

Damn that is some obvious tumblr.
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>people from other boards coming to /lgbt/ to complain about SJWs
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>>5276405
>No one's making you listen to us.

Actually, a lot of people are making you listen. Go to school, get a job, do anything, and they come with a very pretentious sermon about SJW dogma.

At least 10 years ago, I only had to watch a video about not goofing off with the fork lift and why unions are the devil, now I need to watch a 30 minute video developed by a gender studies retard about how rape is bad. No fucking shit, Sherlock.
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>>5276400
>>5276360
Don't cut yourself kiddo
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>>5276525
>Go to school, get a job, do anything, and they come with a very pretentious sermon about SJW dogma.
I'm currently attending college in a liberal region and there isn't really any sign of any of this SJW stuff there. The closest things are events to raise awareness of domestic violence and human trafficking, and lectures on how to spot signs of abusive behavior in romantic relationships. All of which is fully optional by the way.
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>>5276441
Ahhh just like Tumblr. They keep saying they dont push there agenda or political views on us they say "well you dont have to read iiiiiitttt!" Well you MAKE IT LIKE WE HAVE TO!! Like holly fuck! online, real life, at school(colledges) and other rallys and such are nothing but, SJW'S and Lgbt people preaching about how there always "oppressed" or "Raped" or some other Bullshit. I didn't come here to be a prick nooooo. I came here to tell you to FUCK OFF!
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>>5276538
You're saltier than the cum I ate last night. Continue
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>>5276538
So you're complaining about people exercising their right to free speech?

>I didn't come here to be a prick nooooo. I came here to tell you to FUCK OFF!
That's a blatant contradiction.
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>>5276535
>I'm currently attending college in a liberal region and there isn't really any sign of any of this SJW stuff there.

At the local college, they found a coat hanger in a tree. Immediately, they declared it was an anti-black lives matter noose. It was a left over fucking decoration from hanging paper lanterns in a tree.

Because of that -- despite everyone knowing it was a fucking decoration -- the school President declared the campus a hostile racist area un-safe for blacks and everyone on the 20k student campus was forced to do sensitivity bullshit.

Because some faggot thought a coat hanger was a noose.

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/crime/2015/09/23/ud-investigates-makeshift-nooses-near-mitchell-hall/72662954/
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>>5276535
>liberal region
Now your Baiting us.
>The closest things are events to raise awareness of domestic violence and human trafficking, and lectures on how to spot signs of abusive behavior in romantic relationships. All of which is fully optional by the way.
You sure you didn't leave anything out? at all?
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>>5276561
but what does this have to do with /lgbt/?
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>>5276558
People can say whatever they want. Idc most of the time but, this "If you dont support my hugbox, or my opinion your a transphobic, misogynistic piece of Shit!" Gets irritating sometimes.
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>>5276562
>You sure you didn't leave anything out? at all?
Well, there is a LGBT organization on campus but again it's not involved in any mandatory events either. And most forms we have to fill out for the university only have TWO genders. Facebook is literally more SJW-ish than my university.
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>>5276582
Assuming any of us gives a shit is annoying too
Now I have some delicious shemale porn to fap to, I hope you can find something better to do with your time as well
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>>5276600
You have those days where you just dont want to do anything? yeah thats me right now. I would work on my art but, Im having too much fun arguing with people in other boards... God I need to get laid...
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>>5276595
>And most forms we have to fill out for the university only have TWO genders
>TWO genders
>Lgbt

What universe do you live in?
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>>5276579

What does most shit here have to go with /lgbt/? I'm just a gay guy sitting here having a discussion. Or do you think all the shit they talk about in the tranny threads are inherently "lgbt"?
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>>5276618
Permavirgin pls
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fv2ZMN3T18E

The video.
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>>5276636
Is this thread about lgbt people or some hypothetical SJWs?
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>>5276509
This
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>>5276360
I honestly don't understand that mindset Matt and Trey were going for here. It's basically "society expects me to be generally nicer than it used to, and I don't like it so fuck people who expect anything from me other than being a bitter asshole." Like just pretend to be a good person like the rest of us and everyone's lives are better
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>>5276595
>tfw going to a university that literally bends over backwards to accommodate transpeople
>student IDs list preferred name and gender
>they'll use tumblrina pronouns if you really want, thanks to the LGBT office being headed up by an agender snowflake
>transpeople can use whatever facilities match their gender identity
Shit's cash.
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Edgy/10

TRUGGERED!!!

>Fucking edgelords...
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>>5276888
I think the idea is that making being mean illegal and pretending that assholes don't exist is not a solution to assholes being mean.
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Society has kind-of come full circle. South Park was born out of an angry reaction to the moral-majority censor-violence-sex-and-swearing-for-the-children attitudes of the late 80's and early-mid 90's.

At some point the moral guardians got old and tired of fighting the same battles, and that same society and culture has morphed from a fuck-em-all lack of empathy or even reaction to ever-increasing amounts of offensive shit, to the current trigger-warning we'd-better-not-offend-the-tranny-in-the-room self-censorship.

It's basically no different than prudishness, just with a different set of values and a little less grounded in reality. The main point is, however, that Matt and Trey aren't living in the same world as they did when they started South Park, and they're not going to get an audience by doing the same shit they did ten years ago, but they still need to put out episodes.
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>>5277301
I was thinking about this when I saw that clip. I haven't watched a new episode of south park in over ten years and I watched that and I was just thinking about just life in general about how much it has changed. So much SJW and censorship and a completely different landscape altogether. The art looks more polished.
It just really makes me think for whatever reason.

I remember when south park was a new show and I wasnt allowed to watch it. That was like in 1999 or something. 16 years ago. Life hits us so hard man...
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/lgbt/ is less "safe space" than /pol/.
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>>5276405
News, Caitlyn Jenner, the fact that /lgbt even exists is an eyesore.
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>>5276888
The thing is that for example Cartman who has openly hated Jews and all minorities forever suddenly starts demanding other people not hurt his feelings because he posts photos of his little dick on the internet.
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I love South Park and think this season is excellent but I hate its dumb edgemaster fans who think the message of it is "I guess I should start beating up niggers for no reason then because I don't give a shit about liberals".
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>>5276360
Look, mom. It's another one complaining. So revolutionary
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>>5277330
>everything I don't like has to stop existing and only the things that I personally like should be allowed or I'll get triggered and my feels will be upset!!!1!!!
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>>5277301
they still pull really high ratings tho

I think they know what they're doing. I don't like it as much I used to but I notice my 14 year old nephew loves the shit out it and so do most teens. I'd say they've adapted well.

Besides it doesn't matter what they put out it ends up money. Video game or broadway they seem to kill it. It's crazy to me that the same dudes can put out a tony winning musical and also a dirty video game my little cousins cry for me to buy.
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why do anti-sjws always talk like they're villains in an anime, lol
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>>5276708
Safe space song was gold

Was wondering about /lgbt/ reaction to this season. Mostly everyone everywhere has enjoyed it. Weird to see people butthurt over it here.
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>>5278652
they're just mimicking the SJWs themselves. You know who they sound like? The bad guy from The Incredibles.
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>>5278771
"SJWs" talk like normal people, these fags have just watched too much anime or something
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>>6383479
What does this have to do with lgbt?
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>>5278790
>"SJWs" talk like normal people
wut?

Besides the whole point of the reality character being in that old villain getup was that that was how pc people saw him. It was some pretty point blank satire.
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>>5277301
They join the growing horde of clueless reactionary assholes in comedy writing who accuse people of censorship if someone disagrees with them. They got so used being "edgy" and "real" and fighting the oppressive nature of the FCC and that they didn't realize no one was stopping them anymore at some point. No one was actually censoring them from expressing their views, or blocking anything major that they wanted to show. They could make fun of everything and nothing could test the limits anymore. The gore and base bodily humor grew in intensity until they were essentially murdering and mutilating characters in excruciating detail at least every other episode just to fill time or pad out stale writing. Nothing was too extreme. That's when they took the lazy way out and tried to play off the popular meme of "liberal censorship." They pretended things the social majority has been allowed satirize and say openly for years with impunity are now somehow an act of comedic rebellion on par with the greats. Like many of their contemporaries they're riding the high ratings tide provided by the same moral-majority hypocritical bigots they originally lampooned back into the same stuffy, homophobic, overly judgmental, socially conservative zeitgeist they sought to rebel against to begin with. Only this time, they're on top as its prime cheerleader making bank.

Instead of going out on a high note, South Park lived long enough to become its own villain. The writers recently personified themselves as "Reality", a character who was essentially whining at everyone in the world for not listening to his tired, 90s-era edge. His rant was supposed to represent some cathartic Emperor Has No Clothes moment for the new generation, but it came across as a pathetic attempt to reassert how cool and politically incorrect they still are with the awkwardness of a balding, middle-aged man in a red convertible trying to sleep with high school kids by acting tough and dissing hippies.
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>>5279284
Sooo you haven't watched any sp since kenny was dying often and just now watched some clips of the new season and cried here about it.
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>>5279284
Translation:
>Nothing but, a bunch of White Privileged, Homophobic, cis scums who have different opinions than me! RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Are you done talking?
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>>5276888
>Pretend to be nice
Nigga, thats the reason of the episode! These Bitter SJW's expect EVERYONE to obey there opinion and not speak shit about it because "muh safe spaaaaaaaace!" or something. Why do we have to be nice to you? Why do we have to listen to you? Why do we have to respect everything you say and not have a single retort? Why cant we be who we are to you? Douchebags. Im not gonna pretend to be "nice" to you because thats what you want me to do. Im gonna be real and upfront with you because thats me. Im a real straight forward type of guy and if you cant take that then fuck you. Get thicker skin Faggot.
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>>5280269
>I have no personality other than being edgy and contrarian
That's all I'm getting from your post.
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>>5277193
>I have no points or arguments so im just gonna call you edgy
>lul XDDDDDD
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>>5280278
>I have no personality other than being a complete bitch
That's all im getting from your post.
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>>5280269
You don't need to agree with everything someone says, but being nice to people is a basic social rule. You won't get very far in life without following it. Even if you absolutely hate someone, frequently you have to at least "pretend" to be nice to them. Failing to do so is an excellent way to lose your job, and potentially your freedom as well.
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>tfw "safe space" is the new "gay fish"
this is the only real issue to stem from these episodes qh
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>>5280361
Agreeable, I know you have to be nice to your boss or to higher ups but, I dont have to be nice to people who preach bullshit on a high scale because IM, NOT A FUCKING DUMBASS! And if my boss was a PC sort of boss I'd either beat the shit out of him if i didnt care about my job or life anymore or i'd honestly try to get fired to be a freelance worker.
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>>5280418
>I dont have to be nice to people who preach bullshit on a high scale because
You still have to be kind of nice to people, even those you completely agree with, or everyone's going to think you're a jerk.

>if i didnt care about my job or life anymore
And that's a circumstance that's very unlikely to happen
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>>5280439
*even those you completely DISAGREE with
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posting in ebic thread
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>>5280439
>And that's a circumstance that's very unlikely to happen
......Yeah no jokes aside, im pretty soft...

>You still have to be kind of nice to people, even those you completely agree with, or everyone's going to think you're a jerk.
Yeah Ill be nice to everyone but, if there stupid like this stupid...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwJRFClybmk
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>>5280453
Ill be nice to them at the start until they start irritating me
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>>5276360
>tfw there are people that get their political views from a dumb ass cartoon written by two libertarian douche bags
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>>5276405
Nobody made people listen to the Catholic church for centuries either. Or even join. Unless you're a Jew or Moor or some hateful shit like that. No, the ideology is totally optional and... WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SAYING THAT CRACKER ISN'T LITERAL BODY OF CHRIST? HOW DARE YOU MODERN SCIENCE PROVES IT.

>Spanish inquisition nobody expects
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>>5281781
Your point is? What does the Catholic church have to do with this?
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>>5281735
nah, we tend to get them from watching the real world. it's nice seeing it represented on tv.
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>>5279284
I read this twice to be fair. There's no way to get a bead on where you're coming from other than
>I hate South Park
I was hoping for more in that conflicting word salad.
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>>5281786
Jesustapdancing...
I was drawing a parallel, If you can't understand it then you will be confused by pretty much every episode of SP ever.

(They do that a lot tbqh.)
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OP, you need to be at least 18 to post on 4chan
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>>5276372
>only the ideologically pure as declared by her hollyness Anita the Untouchedbymen Sarkeesian can complain about anything, ever
>but if anyone else tries saying something against us or tries calling us out then he's (because it's obviously he and if it's a woman she's been brainwashed by the allmighty Patriarchus) just whiny baby and various other expletives that I'd get heart attack if someone used on me or my ideologically pure supporters

Tumblr, the new left and feminists are absolute worst scum of the earth.
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>>5287051
I don't think I've ever seen anyone projecting this hard.
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>>5287115
>complaining about people complaining about people complaining
Substantive arguments of the progressive
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>>5287247
>complaining about people complaining about people complaining about people complaining
Do you have ANY self-awareness at all?
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>>5287307
>Not having the comedy chops to make the "complaining about" string longer.
>calling yourself a jewliberal
Disappoint
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top-notch thread
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>>5280361
And there it is. You here about minorities accusing others of being racist, but the thing is, what sane person in western society would maliciously say a racist, sexist, transphobic, anti semitic, etc, comment to another person that would offend him? What could you possibly personally gain from saying something like that, or even risk being ostrecized from the community? Then, you have people from these demographics raising their pitch forks and rallying protests just because one person had a slight slip of the tongue without any malicious intent at all.
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>>5288927
Why are you making the mistake of assuming people are rational?
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>>5276360
>>5276400
>>5276417
you act like a 14 year old kid who learned about SJWs through a call of duty forum, but instead of going to tumblr where they dwell, you came to 4chan to complain about it because thats where all the cool kids hang out
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>>5276360
>Quoting South Park
>Having a valid opinion
Pick one
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>>5276888
It's the same message South Park has about any social or political issue "only idiots care about things".

Fuck South Park, the only message it consistently pushes is that apathy is cool.
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>>5294953

Nope.
It has a pretty blatant libertarian message, and occasionally socially liberal politics (that are obviously tied to Trey and Matt's libertarianism, though). And the message of the OP's quoted episode (if that's what we're talking about) is more about people outright ignoring/being offended by reality and ending up being completely intolerant of even relatively faint disagreements. It's something I see a lot in activist (and, even moreso, slacktivist) circles where any bit of information that doesn't fit this pre-conceived narrative of who the enemy is and what they're doing wrong is shouted down and treated like a trigger. It doesn't even have to be as harsh as Trey and Matt's "reality" antihero, it just has to clash with some strongly held viewpoint, however minute, and people will duck and cover and be patted on the back for it. It's a hindrance to any kind of meaningful action when you can't even analyze ideas critically as a group. Trey & Matt are far away from that, but I think they touched on it.
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>>5294960
You're projecting a message on to South Park that isn't there. Trey and Matt hardly ever actually push a message of their own, instead being content to just shit on other people.

Yeah, the subject of the episode changes, voting, activism, police brutality. But the episodes almost always focus on mocking the people who care about the issues.

I'm sure you can find libertarian messages in South Park, but I doubt Matt and Trey gave enough of a shit to take a break from looking down on everyone to purposely put those messages in.
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>>5294953
>Mocks Al Gore for caring about climate change with ManBearPig
>Mocks people for caring about politics with the vote or die episode
>Mocks people for caring about saving the rain forests

I've been saying this for years and no one listens. Matt and Trey are just assholes who never grew out of thinking not caring is cool
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>>5276360
>eat too much
Hey, fatty, you ok there?
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>>5280418
>if my boss was a PC sort of boss I'd either beat the shit out of him

Internet tough guy coming through.
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>>5280418
>What is basic human decency?
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>>5294983
>projecting

Well, no. I'm not a Libertarian. Trey and Matt are, and they've admitted it and the "morals" that occasionally get explained at the end of an episode are 9/10 times going to have some blatant socially liberal-right wing tie in.

For instance:

The Boy Scouts episode? Pushing an argument that excluding gays is wrong, but the Boy Scouts being a private organization should not be forced by the public to change its policy. That's clearly a libertarian viewpoint, because it acknowledges that homosexuality is not inherently wrong but only sees the Boy Scouts as a private organization and doesn't acknowledge any difference it may have from other ones.

The episode about Mr. Tweek's coffee shop versus the larger coffee chain? It plainly asserts that the chain's success is out of its producing a superior, more efficient product. That's a very libertarian view of the market which presumes that in such a competition everyone is even and the larger chain would die if it weren't simply better. I think that's absurd, but still obviously their message.

And in pretty much any episode where private property/economics hold pretty central roles, they're usually completely unsubtle. The most surprising one I've seen in recent years is probably the Trayvon one, where their position was atypical of the right-libertarian stance at the time.

>>5294988

They didn't mock Al Gore for caring. They're clearly mocking the entire idea of global warming as a serious, man-made issue with that episode. I'm pretty what you took as apathy was a genuine nod towards climate denialism. I doubt they still are climate "skeptics," but they could hardly be any less subtle with their metaphors. People panicking and running away from nothing, Al Gore self-righteously going after a clearly imaginary and nonsensical enemy, Randy (a scientist not qualified in the field) chiming in... it's funny, but it was also clearly a really ignorant take on the issue with a very obvious message.
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>>5276509
Yeah, except this is the base for SJW's on 4chan. I post all over the place and am a gay cis white male... I get *WAY* more shit from SJW's for the cis white male part, on /lgbt/, than the gay part ANYWHERE else(including /pol/, which i also post often in. And i dont hide it. Nearly all my posts start off with "gayfag here")

The most irritating part is when /lgbt/ denies its full of SJW's. /pol/ can admit its racist, why cant lgbt be honest about itself? And if you dont think it is, read ANY thread about trannies. Any one. They all push SJW BS about how its the other persons duty to figure out if the tranny is a tranny(going so far as saying if they other person never figures it out, its okay to NEVER tell them, even if they marry you and are actively trying to have children)

/lgbt/ isnt bad at all with other SJW shit(I have never seen anyone here argue about misogyny, patriarchy, or ethnicity shit) but when it comes to gender stuff, this place is pure.fucking.cancer.
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>>5297862
You're talking exclusively about the trannies on this board. Easy mistake to make considering they're posting in every thread about how sad they are and how it's everyone else's fault no matter what the actual topic is. LGB here and irl are mostly anti-sjw.
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>>5297938
Oh for sure, no argument there.... But if there was a community in other 4chan boards that was so at odds with the others, they would be stomped out, or ridiculed in every possible thread.

Here, the trannies attitudes are accepted or ignored(not actively discouraged by others, and janitors)

I dont doubt its maybe a few dozen people, but they make it seem like they make up big % of the forums(prob. since they are not functioning members of society and have time to spare shitposting) and as such make the entire board feel kind of shitty.
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>>5297862
>even if they marry you and are actively trying to have children)
If someone wants to have kids, they should say so, and if their partner knows that they are infertile, they should say so (but there's still no need to come out as trans). If you want to have kids, but never make any mention of it, then you're just an idiot, and you can't blame your partner's infertility for that.
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CIS SCUM PREPARE TO DIE
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>>5298006
See? This person is fucking INSANE. This is what i'm talking about.

>Hurrr, if you want kids, let each other know beofre u get married. STILL NOT YOUR RIGHT TO KNOW YOU'RE FUCKING A DUDE THOUGH!!!!

These people are fucking toxic. Theres no way someone who feels THAT entitled is going to have a fulfilled life. If someone is that in the closet, they better hope the manage to land the most obtuse, ditzy person in the world... Cause otherwise their relationship is going to end the moment the other person smartens up and realize they were being deceived though-out the entire relationship.

>But, but... ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS, SHITLORD! If he didnt want kids, it has no barring!

If a HIV+ person stays on their meds, they effectively no longer have HIV... That wouldnt justify them lying about being clean though... Thats how i feel about the 0.01% of trannies who might actually pass.... The other 99.99%(statistically, >>5298006 must fall in that range) cant carry that attitude if they want, but its not really doing them any favors.
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>>5298083
>These people are fucking toxic. Theres no way someone who feels THAT entitled is going to have a fulfilled life. If someone is that in the closet, they better hope the manage to land the most obtuse, ditzy person in the world... Cause otherwise their relationship is going to end the moment the other person smartens up and realize they were being deceived though-out the entire relationship.
I meant in the CONTEXT OF WANTING TO HAVE KIDS. As far as reproduction is concerned, a transgender woman is just like any other infertile woman. There are reasons why one should be open about being trans, but they have nothing to do with reproduction. So yes, you can call trans people horrible for not being open about it, but don't use reproduction as an argument why they should come out.

>If a HIV+ person stays on their meds, they effectively no longer have HIV... That wouldnt justify them lying about being clean though... Thats how i feel about the 0.01% of trannies who might actually pass.... The other 99.99%(statistically, >>5298006 (You) must fall in that range) cant carry that attitude if they want, but its not really doing them any favors.
Even if they're on their meds, can't you still catch HIV from them? Whereas you can't catch the trans from having sex with a trans person.
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>>5297966
>Here, the trannies attitudes are accepted or ignored
When they bring that SJW nonsense to non-tranny threads then it's not accepted or ignored. It's argued against and then devolves into people just posting >>>/pol/ and >>>/tumblr/ to each other.
>not actively discouraged by others, and janitors
The janitors here only show up when someone posts an uncensored nude and it gets reported enough. That's not the board's fault. Talk to the mods about it
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>>5298403
The mods are non-existent on this board.
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>>5298204
Some people have a problem with fucking an ex-dude, if you get so far as to have sex with another person, you should have the decency to disclose what they are actually having sex with
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>>5301993
Still has nothing to do with the whole reproduction side of things.
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