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fall is so depressing... i miss trees having leaves, and it not being freezing out... pic related, the trees here being sad...
Animals are only good for eating. Instead of stupid dog photos we should just post pictures of delicious meat.
>>5274255
This is now FTM General - Meat Edition
>>5274338
>not liking meat
You can't call yourself a man then.
>>5274324
aw shit i love peking duck.
Just bought a binder today but it came in a baby-size. Trying to figure out when best to start hormones.
>>5274352
Save it because after a while your tits are going to turn into pancakes.
I wore a medium but had to wear an extra small before getting top surgery (srs)
>>5274348
eh animals are friends...
and plenty of chicks eat meat, plenty of guys don't... that's just a weird stereotype that's retarded as fuck
i don't have any moral issues against someone eating meat, but i think it's gross as hell and won't touch or eat it... it smells awful too
>>5274382
Hahaha pussy
>>5274400
me being a pussy shouldn't be news by now...
I like to imagine the juice on my steak being the tears of animal lovers.
Delicious.
>>5274382
you wont survive the winter
>>5274488
i'm ok with that...
meat edition?
>muscle girls is best girls
>>5274514
ye
>>5274557
ftmgen needs less gay
/ftm overcompensation gen/
post things that make others think u are stronk man even though vagina ;-;
also
>>5274596
>not wanting a muscle gf to wrastle with
>>5274596
Post Indian chicks that are attractive then. This is the only one I've seen that isn't completely gross.
(Honestly Scandinavian girls are the best)
>>5274207
Tell me about it, we had a wicked storm recently that stripped all the trees down so autumn has kind of been cut short.
>>5274631
i'd rather have an israeli army girl for that... i fucking love them...
>>5274631
Well if you don't want to be a man then what are you doing here?
Also this whole thread has been sort of tongue-in-cheek, calm down.
>>5274665
what the fuck are you talking about
>>5274659
>tfw no jihadi gf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N5IQxrac6g
>>5274713
i know what tongue in cheek is you ballbag.
i am ftm, i was just lessening the tension of the obvious overcomp before someone else posted it
>>5274636
she's cute... but honestly i've seen better...
i've known a lot of cute indian chicks... like irl and shit... scandinavian girls can be cute, i just don't prefer that look... i'm not particularly attracted to really white people generally desu... like obviously there's attractive white people, but particularly when it comes to women eh...
>>5274655
that's shitty
fall is always short here, it's already snowed a little twice... once it sticks everything goes to shit after, i already miss spring
>>5274738
>I am ftm
You sound like a whiny 5-year-old girl though.
>>5274596
>nah
disagree
>>5274720
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CqLinRa1gM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koyqjbDMiNs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxo9iEX8W1c
i feel the drones zoning in already
>>5274747
>if you don't want to be a man
>want to be a man
>want
that explains it
>dumb animals
This thread was made for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSM3x9G7eTQ
>>5274720
she's cute... i'd let her kick my ass...
>>5274760
i just want you to know this post really disappointed me... i was hoping it'd be more cute crazy chicks...
>>5274807
i'm on my phone, the only pics i have are ones i've taken... and well... it's a lot of shit like this (pics from my garden) and no women...
>>5274348
a startling amount of trans dudes I encounter are vegetarian; I don't really know why.
I try to reduce the amount of animal products I eat, but that's more to do with lactose intolerance and a baffling inability to eat eggs if they're not baked into something. (Mild allergy maybe?) All my animals eat meat, so I've got no qualms about that.
And a fucking spider just crawled into my keyboard and typing is making me super nervous GOD DAMMIT.
>>5274807
>riled up
>>5274828
i cant find any more
>>5274772
Clearly you're just a sad broad with no sense of humor. I'm not sure why I'm wasting my time on you at this point.
>>5274861
do you have mental disabilities
all this projection is amaizing
>>5274861
>broad
ughhhhhhhhhhhh
>>5274875
>claims to be transgender
>talking down on mental problems
ok anon
>>5274849
i don't eat meat cuz i find it gross... flesh and veins and fat and the texture and smell etc is all just really nasty to me... like i can't think of it as food and i don't like it... but if someone else wants to eat it that's whatever... i just don't want it near my food, being cooked in the same pan or whatever cuz that's gross... i don't like vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes either... the shit that's made to taste sorta like meat
animal milk is gross to me, and has been since i was a kid... i don't like the smell or taste so nope... i don't eat cheese or yogurt cuz i've noticed it makes some of the pain i'm in worse when i'm eating shit like that...
and don't eat eggs cuz since my health went to shit i get allergic reactions, hives in my mouth, itching, vomiting etc
making animals vegan when they aren't meant to be is fucking stupid though... and i don't count as vegan technically cuz i eat honey
>>5274952
+ and not food, but i don't like leather or fur either but that's more just that i find it gross...
my s/o loves both though, and bones and shit... he has a collection of furs, bones, and dead animals + loves leather... which doesn't bother me i just don't wanna touch any of it...
i just have a strong aversion to animal products... like i'm totally fine with people covering themselves in leather and fur and going hunting and eating whatever etc but... i'm just not ok with that shit for myself
Is it true that many ftms lean asexual?
>>5275096
It's probably because of dysphoria. I bet most of the "asexual" ftms have sex drives but don't want to use their parts.
>>5275123
Mouths and tongues and useful regardless of the shape of you or your partner's body.
>>5275132
eh if someone doesn't want to be touched they aren't gonna necessarily want to do anything sexual with another person... especially cuz most people want to touch back, not just have one sided shit... half the fun is getting the other person off
>>5275132
Seeing other people's bits can set off dysphoria too, though.
There will be times I'll look at my partner's dick and have to go take a break instead of doing anything with it because I don't have one, and still won't in the foreseeable future.
>insurance covers all GRS including top surgery
>must be an instate doctor
>only two surgeons don't accept my insurance
What is the freakin point!? Being PC for the sake of it? I want off this ride
>>5276628
Fucking move, it would be worth it. NY or CA would probably have the best doctors.
>>5276657
The doctors are great, the insurance sucks. Does the state insurance cover stuff in CA or NY? I'm a student and a tutor so I can't afford much in the way of insurance and have to leech.
>>5275195
It used to be a Thing among some groups of lesbians that some butches were Stone Tops: they liked to get their partners off, but didn't want/wouldn't let themselves be touched.
I'm sure as fuck not, I found out early on that my parts feel good, even if they don't work how I'd hoped.
But it's a fascinating concept. I could see how it could apply to dysphoric.. well, anybody, really.
Is it just me, or is /ftmg/ obnoxious today?
>you will never really know the joy of sticking your dick inside things
Why even live.
>>5274585
would |
>>5272871
Aww, cute doge.
why does everyone in ftm gen act like women
>visit mum at work to tell her something
>leave
>she asks coworker how old I look
>she guesses 15 or 16
I am 21 and look nowhere near my age in tomboy mode, I would have no hope in hell of passing unless I wanted to be a 13 year old boy til the end of time.
>>5277984
How long have you been on T?
>>5278037
I'm not, knowing I would be a lost cause puts me off taking any action to transition.
>>5278044
why would you be a lost cause? most transguys aren't and you're only 21...
>>5277983
Half of the people ITT are probably from Tumblr.
>>5274849
I've met a few vegetarian/vegan ftms myself. I wonder if it's because they want to reduce the increase in bad cholesterol from the testosterone, or if they care about cows or something. I don't really care about cows that much but to each their own.
Also salmon is best meat.
>>5278162
i figured that
ftm just visiting from /g/ i never come to this board but this gen is like ladies night knitting and crochet therapy general
>>5278272
This isn't my home board either. I wasn't expecting ftms to cry like babies over slabs of meat but at the same time I'm not really surprised Tumblr would flock to this board.
>>5278323
Does anyone have /lgbt/ as their home board? I expect everyone has something else to talk about other than being queer.
>>5278345
Maybe some people if this is the first board they posted on. It's hard to say.
I come here maybe once every two months or so.
>>5278301
i'm really short too, but i figure i'm hispanic and southern italian and being short isn't that weird as a result... my dad is only 5'2 and i have a cousin who's about the same... met cis guys my height (5') before with similar ethnic backgrounds so it's kinda like it's unusual but no big deal...
it's harder i suppose when you're not something like that or asian and really short guys are more unusual, but idk...
i feel like passing is more secondary to relieving dysphoria... like if my voice didn't bother me and my chest wasn't a huge source of discomfort would i care if someone occasionally called me "miss"? honestly? probably not... cuz even if i never left the house again i'd still want that shit taken care of for personal comfort reasons you know?
it's weird... i've been told i look young, but i've also never had anyone tell me i have a case of "babyface" either... like i don't really have the specific look that comes with that phrase...
>>5278323
well you're being pretty dramatic don't you think? i'm pretty sure i'm the only one who said anything about being vegan here and i said meat was gross, which is pretty different than crying about it... or even making it into a huge deal... i straight up said i don't care what other people eat so yeah...
>>5278372
You did make it into an argument when I was clearly joking.
I'm sitting back loling over the fact that you're trying to continue an argument that ended a day ago. Please, continue.
>>5278372
what the fuck did you just fucking say about me... you little bitch? i'll have you know i graduated top of my class in the navy seals... and i've been involved in numerous secret raids on al-quaeda... and i have over 300 confirmed kills... i am trained in gorilla warfare and i'm the top sniper in the entire us armed forces. you are nothing to me but just another target... i will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this earth... mark my fucking words. you think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the internet? think again... fucker. as we speak i am contacting my secret network of spies across the usa and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm... maggot... the storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. you're fucking dead... kid. i can be anywhere... anytime... and i can kill you in over seven hundred ways... and that's just with my bare hands. not only am i extensively trained in unarmed combat... but i have access to the entire arsenal of the united states marine corps and i will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent... you little shit. if only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you... maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. but you couldn't... you didn't... and now you're paying the price... you goddamn idiot. i will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. you're fucking dead... kiddo.
>>5278395
i wasn't arguing... i was just talking... and i'm still just talking, so i guess you can laugh about the fact that someone attempted to have a conversation with you... but that's really all it is, i'm sorry you don't understand how conversations work when someone has a different perspective than you...
and yes, the conversation did end yesterday, but you brought it up again (not me) and i responded... when you bring something up another day first the "lol it was over yesterday" shit doesn't work... not when you say it anyway...
so yeah... i'm not mad at you, i'm just as bored as you and i'll literally talk to anyone about anything cuz i'm not particular... this came up so i said something... but all the emotions you're giving me don't exist, that's just shit you're making up...
>>5278415
Why the fuck do you type like a 14 year old scene girl?
Yeah... hanging with my bf... you just dont understand cuz you don't know the darkness of my soul...
>>5278415
I didn't even bother to read that. Bye.
>>5278400
lol you know for a second i forgot i said the shit about meat and someone being dramatic and i thought this was a response to me talking about being short as fuck... confused the shit out of me
>>5278372
dot-dot-dot anon strikes again
>>5278272
I feel like most of the posts in this thread are easier to associate with female voices instead of male ones. Maybe it's because they type like women.
>>5278480
>newfag as fuck
>>5278415
Would you still be interested in documenting your transition if you had the means to do so?
>>5278372
>>5278415
I'm assuming you're the one who posted >>5274631 ?
I don't meant to beat a dead horse, but it sounded like you took what meat anon seriously, and when meat anon tried explaining that he wasn't being serious, you started arguing with him, tossing out insults and accusing him of being mentally disabled, just because he was joking about meat.
That's why I posted >>5274807 and said you were getting upset over nothing. Even if you weren't angry, the way you worded your posts made it sound like you were.
god dammit can't we just have one semi-civil gen?
angry mtfs haven't even shown up yet
>>5278985
you assumed wrong... and what are you talking about accusing him of being mentally disabled? i wasn't the one having that conversation...
i type the same way all the time... and it's pretty easy to distinguish my posts from the ones you're talking about... so yeah... the shit you think i said wasn't said by me... that was someone else...
>>5278878
if i had the means to do so sure, but i'm in a complicated shit situation...
>>5278933
At least one of those anons said this wasn't their home board.
Also, I think anyone who hangs out in these threads long enough to know or care about everything that's ever been posted here is probably dull as fuck irl. Of all 4chan has to offer, you care way to much about FTM general. Wow.
>>5279027
Then they probably weren't accusing you of being the crybaby. Nice jumping to conclusions there.
>>5279027
>>5278985
+ btw, in all honesty i thought the person you were actually talking to was over-reacting, but i didn't see any point in getting involved in that shit so i didn't...
instead i was talking about indian chicks, middle eastern chicks, and israeli army girls cuz that became way more interesting... btw... wouldn't date any of them cuz none of them age well, they're beautiful for a very short period of time and then... garbage...
>>5278933
Ftm Gen is not the only thread on /lgbt/. Just because we don't come to these threads that often doesn't mean we're newfags.
>tfw I posted on this board the day it was created
>>5279040
i said what i said cuz i was the only person here who actually mentioned not eating meat... like literally the only person who was like "i'm vegan" and they were being kinda dramatic about the whole thing + i was initially involved in the discussion...
but there's no winning with you, you assumed wrong so you'll talk about something else i said instead... it's whatever though... i don
>>5279079
don't really care either way* my bad...
>>5279079
It seems like the whole thing was a big misunderstanding between everyone. (I probably should've been more polite in my last post desu, sorry)
Anyway, I'm still waiting on those Indian chicks if you've got pictures yet.
>arguing about inane bullshit like pmsing women
worse than mtfg
>>5279027
>if i had the means to do so sure, but i'm in a complicated shit situation...
Is it that you might have liver issues or some other reason that T might hurt your health?
If so I'm sorry man.
>>5279093
seriously just google image search "indian chick" and i would bang most of the ones that come up first (key word being "most" there's a few monsters thrown in)
they make me sad though cuz they're always kinda... crazy, inaccessible, and then like i said they get hideous pretty quick... but for the brief period of time where they are hot i don't think other chicks really compare...
and eh it's cool... i'm not particularly touchy or sensitive, so no worries... but thanks for apologizing anyway...
>>5279114
my health is shit yeah, but i actually don't even know everything that's wrong... so for all i know it would affect shit like t, but i don't know... no insurance, no way to get to doctors etc like i said... it's complicated and shit...
>>5279150
I thought the AFA was supposed to make it affordable to get insurance, and also mandatory, though I may be missing something.
>>5279405
it is supposed to, and it does for some people... but not everyone (me included) and i'm actually in a situation that's shit to the point where even if i had insurance i'd still be fucked... and i know as much cuz i had it years ago before my health was where it is and well... yeah...
i could get into details and give you the whole long story and shit, but i'd rather not... cuz it's complicated and no one has time for or wants an autobiography... i just really truly am in a shit situation, with a lot of shit that's wrong, and no way out that i can see currently (if ever)
is what it is and all that...
does anyone here into therapy?
>>5279507
I know it is a controlled substance, but if you self med with T, would that be bad for you?
>>5279619
controlled substance shit aside (i've got nothing against illegal controlled substances) self medding with t tends to be problematic to begin with... like for healthy people, which i'm not... and without knowing all the details about my current issues that just seems crazy...
not to mention starting t without any chance of getting top surgery just seems like a shit road to go down... i know it'd likely worsen my dysphoria to be way more masculine in appearance and then have tits long term... cuz that's like... a real fucked up in between kinda deal you know?
right now i've got 2 choices, i can either accept that i'm uncomfortable 24/7 and it sucks and try to find other shit to focus on in the hopes that i'm in a better situation at some point... or i could off myself cuz there's nothing i can do right now or see going well any time soon... and while i debate that every day my relationship with my s/o comes ahead of everything for me so yeah...
this whole topic is pretty depressing though lol... it's whatever really...
>>5279515
Ah man, I have a session in the morning and I've been playing Fallout all night...
>>5274348
i'm a normal man and i fucking love meat and i have some male friends who are vegetarian and it doesn't make them any less of a man. if anything you are overcompensating with an attitude like this.
>>5277077
it feels okay. i usually feel regret afterwards. being drunk or on hard drugs or being high as fuck and eating loads of good food or cuddling with someone feels way better to be honest.
>>5281040
i tried playing it and it won't load. good thing i didn't buy it. friends who i actually trust the opinions of say it is a meme game anyways.
>>5278301
there are guys who are baby faced manlets. you don't have to be the epitome of masculinity.
>>5274596
>>5274659
here you lads go. average faces by country. i personally find russian to be the most attractive, then english, then swedish.
>>5281096
based on this... greek > everything else... better start checking out greek chicks...
>>5281096
your in for it if you think bongland women are hot
>>5281200
+ somoan is the worst though... goddamn...
>>5281302
samoan* my bad...
Is it weird that I keep fantasizing about growing a penis, that my clothes will keep growing and become a penis, then I will have a penis and no one will know I was ever a girl?
Is that kind of fantasy normal or is the extremeness of it just weird?
>>5278088
Honestly I got the term out of a collection of LGBT historical anecdotes, for all I know it's a term that died out in the 60s and 70s.
Just thought it was kinda neat.
Why does it feel like such an imposition for me to correct someone when they call me the wrong gender.
Why does it feel like I'm being the rudest piece of shit.
Why can't I just grow a fucking beard already and end this suffering.
>>5281705
soon man, if you are doing the things for the goal it will come
Are people with boobs that identify as genderfluid, but are currently feeling very male, welcome here? I'm in that weird, numb, oddly comfortable dissociative state of feeling confident in being male but being in a body that doesn't feel quite right. Shit is weird.
>>5282425
>>5281705
I have the same problem. I never, ever correct people, to the point that I have a lot of acquiatences who thing I'm a woman (whose voice is inexplicably getting a lot deeper?).
Other than feeling rude, I don't correct people because it makes me feel vulnerable. Because I don't pass, I'm admitting something very personal and uncomfortable, and I don't want everyone to know it.
>>5281096
Why the fuck is South Africa so white?
>>5278044
>I can't start T because I look like a little boy
Screw you, man. Looking like a little boy would be a step up for me. I'm gonna get ma'amed til the end of time.
>>5282595
cuz there's a lot of white people in south africa...
>>5281705
probably cuz it's awkward... idk...
i don't do that... not for myself anyway, but i don't at all feel awkward or imposing saying something if someone misgenders another transperson...
i think it's just that i can deal with shit like that even if it makes me uncomfortable and prefer to avoid awkwardness... but if someone other than me is being made to feel uncomfortable then there's nothing that can really be avoided so it's better to say something in that case...
>>5282583
>Because I don't pass, I'm admitting something very personal and uncomfortable, and I don't want everyone to know it.
God, yes, same.
I mean with people who know its one thing. I correct my coworkers if they use the wrong name, although they've been pretty awesome about it and I don't do it rudely, but like-
I was having a convo with a repair guy at work who's in maybe once a month at most, it's going well and I'm feeling good and he's heading out and he says "have a good one, girl."
With the best good will and fucking intentions he says that shit.
And I just.
There's almost no point in having that conversation with someone just trying to get out who I hardly see. There's so many tiny interactions with other humans that do not merit the effort of the conversation it would take to correct that assumption about you.
But man, I felt shitty the rest of the day.
>>5281705
ftm hormones kick in way faster than mtf hormones. You'll have a beard within 1 year of starting testosterone. I haven't started estrogen or anything yet and it'll probably be 3-4 years before I look anything CLOSE to a cis woman
>tfw no dick
>tfw i will never wreck a pussy or an ass
>>5281096
I can't think of any capacity that FO4 is a meme game. Maybe the term doesn't mean what I think it means. Regardless, I fucking love it. It's great fun to play, the characters are charming as all hell, the atmosphere is always on point and it's a brilliant immersive experience.
>>5282425
Your genderfluidy is stupid but I for one, welcome everyone whether they are ftm or not. Some cis gay dudes and mtf pop in and out of here.
>>5282818
Fallout 4 has been incredibly boring and underwhelming as fuck to me. The insane amount of glitches I'm experiencing aside - I think the writing/dialog is shitty, no characters are particularly memorable or amusing and I get zero immersion unlike Fallout 3 and New Vegas. Also there's a weird lack of humor that the other two have and the pathing to NPCs/companions is infuriating. Having to navigate tunnels with 3 NPCs, me and my companion was fucking hell.
I don't hate it but god so far its really boring and unmemorable. The only thing this has over the past two is graphics.
>>5282853
T-thanks. Idk, I don't know what else to call it. I swing between feeling decidedly male and decidedly female, and when I'm feeling that way, feel like I was an idiot for considering that I'm genderfluid bc I'm obviously [insert whatever I feel like]. And then in a month or two I'm on the other end inverted, so, right now I feel pretty dumb for identifying as genderfluid, but past experience tells me I'll feel dumb for doubting it later, too. I wish it'd just pick one.
>>5282926
Well what makes you think you're genderfluid? I think people just seem to forget that you can be a manly woman, or a womanly man, etc. Back in my day we just called girls looking, dressing and acting like a 'boy' tomgirls.
I just hate this 'oh im a girl but i like these boy things so i must be genderfluid'/whatevermadeupthing,etc.
>>5282939
Sometimes I feel... male. It tends to have dysphoria that comes with it, bc I do not have penus, but not all the time. Other times I feel... female. I feel comfortable and right in my body. Keep in mind I'm still very much masculine either way, so it isn't that sort of thing.
Idk, how do you know you're the other gender? It is that weird indescribable feeling. I seem to feel it both ways.
>>5282926
>feeling decidedly male and decidedly female
So then is the "female" feeling one of congruence, rather than acceptance?
This is mostly asked out of curiosity, but it's something I gave a lot of thought to and realized what I thought were female-identifying swings were just "masculinity is haaaaaaaaaard" for me. There's some potential science backing bigender/genderfluid but it's literally *one* study and therefore nowhere near sufficient. (Personally I don't think you're fulla shit, for whatever that's worth.)
>>5282952
Thanks for the support. Few people give it, especially since I tend not to frequent the typical hugboxes of the Internet about it. As for your question, I mean, it is hard to answer bc I'm a little dissociated atm, but. Hmm. I feel... female... ? If I could draw a spectrum, I could mark my range of gender identity that I swing between, but essentially, I'm on the lower end of the female identity that approaches gender neutrality when I feel female, and when I feel male, I'm further male but not completely 100% there/committed. Right now I'm feeling male, but not enough to feel particularly bothered about my own physicality? That sounds retarded, but, oh well.
Also, even when I'm female, I'm still very much one hell of a dyke. I'm incredibly masculine in personality. Paradoxically, I tend to be more... feminine... ? When I'm feeling male. I guess I'm just a permafaggot.
>>5282951
Well sorry I was pretty rude about it before. I am pretty solid on my 'youre either a man or a woman' thing and I'm pretty tainted by tumblr BS when it comes to anything else. Genderfluid, agender, demigirl/boy, etc.
>how do you know you're the other gender?
I don't think there's a real answer to that. To me it just feels 'right' doing what I am doing now. Post T, top surgery soon, been living as a man for years, etc. I no longer question myself, I'm comfortable, don't regret anything so I'm doing something right.
>>5282951
well you type like a girl
>>5282857
That's cold, man. I agree with you about the companion pathing though, I constantly get the shit scared out of me while sneaking because my companion walks in front of me and I can't count how many time I found myself muttering "Nick, fuck off" just yesterday. I've seen a bunch of glitches but I expected that and I'm kind of happy to see them considering how borked my experiences with the last two games were, and I haven't found any game breakers so far. I still love the companion NPCs though, I'm not sure what to do about the new romancing mechanic because I'm really fond of 3 of them at this point. Maybe I immerse easily but I'm so into fucking everything I do in that game, there was a main plot mission where I spent a solid 20 minutes shitting myself in anticipation.
>>5283070
The only one I am remotely interested in romancing right now is John Hancock but even then his dialog annoys me half the time. Everything feels so forced. Interacting with people in this game feels off and I don't really like the choices. Also at least half the glitches I encounter have to do with dialog. I'll be talking/trying to talk and it goes into cut scene mode, but they're just stand there looking around forever without talking.
NV at least had Lilly, Arcade Ganon, Boone, Veroncia, and they were all funny(except for Boone, tragic man), memorable characters. Side characters like the ghoul cowgirl, funny shit like getting that fuck robot, Dog/God, Red Lucy. Hell even villains like Benny were great. Those are just the ones from NV I can think off the top of my head and Fallout 4 is extremely lacking in character depth or, whatever makes me give a single shit about any of them. Also the lack of factions you can join, even if they're shitty/weak like the Great Khans or the Kings. They were still funny and fun to do quests for.
>>5282778
>will never calmly yet firmly give your loved partner your load in their ass
>will never receive a blowjob just before going to sleep or after waking up
>will never be able to try fleshlights
>will never even be able to just feel your dick in your pants, without any sexual activity going on whatsoever
>>5282965
Have you tried sort of experimenting with presenting as male? Like wearing male clothing and having your (supportive) friends refer to you with masculine pronouns? That might help you figure things out. It did for me.
Can you even pass at 5'2"? I'm pre-everything and I'm scared people will think I'm a butch lesbo for the rest of my life
>>5287918
there are people passing at even shorter statures (myself included....fucking somehow)
but if not butch lesbian, then definitely manlet
How many of you still do family holidays?
>>5287936
Parents want me to be a girl when I visit them, so no.
>>5287941
Huh?
But you are a girl.
>>5287957
Uh, not anymore genius. Already transitioned.
>>5287957
>>>/mtfg/
>>5288004
Holy fuck how did I end up in the wrong thread.
My apologies I'm retarded apparently.
>tfw pre-everything and unsure if trans
>tfw dating someone for close to two years
>tfw love them to pieces
>tfw they are supportive but straight
>tfw want nothing to do with me if I start to transition
I can't fucking take it. I want to die.
>>5288201
>>tfw want nothing to do with me if I start to transition
Are you certain about that?
>>5288333
Yes. We've already discussed it in length.
jesus christ /ftmg/ i'm so stressed about thanksgiving i can't even think straight
>my mom said 'i wish you were just a lesbian' when i came out, generally freaked out, said trans = gross, etc.
>my sister, and all of the other people coming are 100% on board and will be calling me my name
>not sure if mom will be able to cope
>not sure if I'm going to be deadnamed
>mfw i am alone in an empty desert of depression
>>5288991
These feels, I know them well ;-;
>>5288376
Oh, sorry to hear that.
My bf didn't leave me when I started to transition, and we are still together. I'm sorry to hear he is not as open minded.
So what do you think would make you happier? Why can't he be with out as your true self?
>>5274585
DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!! FILTHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How much does a T prescription generally cost? I'm poor and know my insurance won't cover it.
>>5292875
of course you wouldn't be into it, you're a straight girl.
>>5287918
my dad is 5'2 ... some guys are short as fuck... it does happen
>>5287936
i do, mostly cuz i don't have a choice... but it's not too bad i'll just drink with my little bro and s/o
>>5288201
as in not even friends? that's pretty fucking harsh... you should probably really think about what's best for you now, before you pursue that any further...
i got lucky my s/o is pretty much straight, but sees me as his exception... though recently he blamed me for him occasionally looking at guys (cis and trans) and is feeling a bit confused, but he also told me if any other guy tried to kiss him he thinks he'd punch them so idk...
when did you tell him? it might take a bit to process, but don't hide yourself for someone else... you'll resent him and regret it later...
>>5288991
my dad doesn't accept me, i just don't bother with him...
>>5292875
she's a bit tall, but not disgusting...
>>5293413
Injectable is something like $25-60/mo. I usually hear ~$30 from other people.
and then about quadruple that for transdermal
>>5293413
If you're in the US the ACA made insurances cover transition stuff, or if you're poor enough get state insurance as a secondary and it has to cover most of it.
hey how many of you already have the T?
http://strawpoll.me/6104586/r
Happy Gluttony Day!
>>5296460
happy thanksgiving...
my turkey's still frozen solid god fucking dammit
shoulda just shoved it back in the fridge instead of unwrapping it but apparently I'm a stubborn idiot
and now the captcha's mocking me GOD DAMMIT
is /lgbt/ as a whole getting worse or am i just much less tolerant of petty overdone bullshit? i've been off 4chan for a couple weeks & was scrolling down for this thread rather than searching the catalog & i almost gave up rather than keep skimming some of the other threads
but hey, you all are still here and that's nice
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
>>5297094
that sucks... how'd that turn out?
>>5298402
seems the same as usual... might just be you...
>>5298440
happy thanksgiving
pic sorta related, gypsy trying homemade cranberry sauce (the spaghetti squash and carrots etc aren't new to her so she wasn't as excited about that)
my niece was over... she finally says a word ("cool" it's the only word she knows so far) and i got to see her take 3 steps... but everyone else missed it cuz my little bro was driving my s/o to work, my older bro was having a cig and my mom was cooking... that was cool i guess, she's slowly becoming a person so she's a bit less boring than she used to be... i was drunk as shit though so that probably made her more entertaining...
>>5298588
probably easier to just get one in that case... lol gypsy would probably go right with you at first too, she loves new people... her wing feathers are coming in and she can fly now so she spent all day going to everyone in my family's shoulders for attention
>>5298996
how do you keep her from shitting in your food? do you feed her at certain times so she just won't be ready to unload when you let her out?
>>5299039
she's never shit in my food lol, but she doesn't climb into my plate, she has her plate (though she does try to steal food sometimes, usually from my s/o's plate she just sneaks over and will steal a piece then runs away), and she knows that's hers and she stands outside of it to eat... or she takes food and then will sit on someone's (usually mine or my s/o's) arm or shoulder to eat... she walks away from food to go on her own, and at this point she's mostly potty trained...
when she has to go she usually lets us know and we can do shit like hold her over the garbage or a napkin or something and she'll go then... and then we tell her that she's good and make a big deal out of it so she gets really happy about it... she doesn't shit in her cage either like overnight (i pretty much only put my birds in their cages to go to bed, or if i'm going out for a while...but they stay open if they want to go in so sometimes they choose to chill there, but they have a playground hanging from the ceiling to chill on) when it was warmer she'd wait to go in the garden as soon as she woke up, but now it's too cold for that so over a napkin...
she eats all throughout the day whenever she wants though, i just leave plates of food for her and the budgies that i change every couple of hours (sometimes more depending... like when they have eggs those get taken away quicker) and when she does have accidents it's usually like on the floor and it's easy to clean... cuz it's not like when other animals shit it oddly doesn't smell at all and it's small so it's no big deal...
>>5298489
>that sucks... how'd that turn out?
we had backup ham so it wasn't *totally* catastrophic
but I'm the household cook so it was a pretty serious blow to the ego :/
Hey transfam. I got a question for y'all.
What would you do if you had a reasonable suspicion that a close AFAB friend of yours might be trans? Like obviously it's not my place to push being trans on anyone but she's been saying some reaaaaaal suspect shit lately. I've even coaxed some extremely vague confessions out of her on occasion, and something she said today especially made me pause and think about it.
Like what can I do in this situation? I'm really worried for her, she's been in a dark place lately and I don't want to project my issues onto her or anything but I can really see some of my past struggles in her.
>>5299418
I'd say be there for her and don't force anything, If that person is trans let her figure out . its a path of self discover and all those shit.
>>5299423
I know, it's just... It's killing me to see her this way.
>tfw never wanted toe hair
Still don't, this is damn gross.
>>5299526
It's easy enough to shave off. I used to shave my fingers and toes all the time.
I guess if you really hate it you can take the risk of Nairing it off?
>>5299526
Just wait until you get arse hair, buddy
>>5299526
LOL LOOK AT U U HOBBIT
>>5299526
JUST KIDDING
I would actually suck your toes for hours
>>5299135
oh, i'd always heard that birds & reptiles couldn't be toilet trained at all, that they simply had no awareness of when they were shitting. but that info is probably pre-internet, when people & books fact-checked their information even less than they do now.
goddamn i have a hysto in 4 hours this is so weird
last night i was getting irrationally scared about my recovery but now it just doesn't feel real at all and i think that's better
also hopefully i'll be able to start testopel so i can be back on t (i'm not removing my ovaries so this isn't physically essential) and once december comes i can get a cheaper at-home laser hair remover and not have to worry about facial hair growing in
and then i'll be... done with my transition? so much of my life now has just been waiting for this to finish and soon i'll be able to just focus on more generic forms of self-improvement and that doesn't feel real either
>>5299405
cooking a good ham didn't help restore your ego a bit?
my s/o did all the cooking for us this year...
>>5299418
just listen and accept, people gotta do shit on their own time...
>>5299817
i wouldn't expect my budgies to learn that, but they like to chill on their own things and just fly loops around before going right back... so they only ever go in their playground area and in their cage... though i've heard they can be trained a bit with it... i just imagine it's harder for them cuz they go more frequently than gypsy... at the same time though they can learn tricks so i guess someone persistent could teach them other stuff... mine are only semi-tame and prefer each other though so they don't do all the things gypsy does with me
+ conures are smarter, and do it more naturally like at night or just while they're chilling (to an extent still gotta train them) so it's not too bad... they pick up tricks quicker too, like gypsy knows how to shake hands (well fingers) with her foot...
my older bro has kept reptiles almost his entire life (he breeds leopard geckos and is starting on tokays now) and from what i've seen they're not generally even close to as smart as like budgies... though he has told me iguanas and monitors can be potty trained, but fuck if i know... it's probably more birds like finches and doves/pigeons that don't at all pick up on things like that cuz they're not as smart as parrot species, but i've never had any of that personally so no idea... gypsy is the only small animal i've had potty training success with (people say you can with ferrets and rabbits, but i've had both in the past and nope) before her i just figured you could only teach that to dogs and cats
>>5300181
Conures also like to snuggle a lot :3
>>5300594
she's the only one i've ever been around, but hearing that + seeing videos was actually a big part of why i got one...
and she's actually the most affectionate pet i've ever had... even moreso than a dog (and my jack russel, sid, is the most affectionate dog i've ever been around... mostly just with me though, he can be a dick to everyone else), most of what she wants to do is cuddle + she goes over to people making kissing sounds and pushing her beak against everyone's lips for kisses... really playful too... she wrestles with our hands... it's like having a more affectionate extremely small dog with feathers pretty much...
>Has a dream about swapping bodies with a cis dude
>Jerks off with my newly found dick in the dream and it feels better than anything else I've ever experienced
>reallygreatdream.jpg
>Ends up waking up to a giant bottle of cramps because I'm disgusting and pre t
why live?
>>5300869
Stop no I don't have money for a conure please no aaaaaaa
>>5300181
>cooking a good ham didn't help restore your ego a bit?
Well, it was pre-cooked so there wasn't much to it beyond heating it up and glazing it. (The glaze was a tiny ego boost at least!)
If the turkey's finally defrosted enough to cook today I'll roast it like a proper wifekarl and flex all day or somethin
>>5301694
I've had dreams of being a cis guy, the weird thing in those dreams is that no one including me acts like anything is weird or unexpected, I'm just a cis guy, go to classes or the gym. Then when I wake up, I'm like oh.....
I wish I could have lucid dreams sometimes I would do non boring things.
Oh man.
I remember a month or so ago after a really bad dysphoria moment I went to sleep with a binder and packer.
When I woke up I was like "haha wow that whole female thing was a dream, weird"
Illusion got smashed painfully as soon as I checked my chest.
I caved and bought a prosthetic. Thank the stars for holidays and free food.
>>5301775
i didn't either... she was a late xmas gift from my mom (late cuz i wanted a specific colour and to go to a breeder), people do get rid of their birds often though unfortunately, could always consider adopting one...
>>5301781
oh, i've only cooked meat once in my life so idk how to at all... it was for my cat the day i brought him home cuz he was shy and scared (i got him from a vet's office and he was 4 months old and had been a stray so he was really fucking nervous) i forgot ham tends to be pre-cooked... glaze counts though
good plan... cook the shit out of that turkey and restore your honour
>>5301853
i thought lucid dreaming was simply being aware you're dreaming while you're doing it... and that controling the dreams is a more complex aspect of it
i'm always aware in my dreams and know what's going on and all that, but i can't make anything happen... i just gotta let things play out...
>>5302190
I'm always aware of when I'm dreaming, I don't try to control anything because my subconscious makes more entertaining things that my conscious mind can. Though I would really like to examine myself to see what dream-me looks like.
>>5302210
i've tried to control them, but i just can't do it... i'm not even sure how that works to be honest
i've dealt with like sleep paralysis and those really shitty false awakening dreams (usually with touches of sleep paralysis) since i was young... and i can do things like consciously try to move my hand or hold my breath etc to wake myself up, but nothing past that... the shitty dreams are why i tried learning about it, figured if i could control them it'd make sleeping easier, there have been points where i've actually hated the idea of sleeping cuz i couldn't deal with more sleep paralysis dreams and shit... like sleeping would literally cause huge amounts of anxiety
>>5301694
just the other day i had a dream that i got a dick transplant and it randomly ejaculated without even getting hard and i was so grossed out both in the dream & after waking (i'm grossed out by thicker fluids in general, like i won't eat ice cream in a cone if it's too hot out for fear of it getting on my hands). i was so relieved that transplant didn't really happen
Sheltered cisgay here
Can I hit on you? Will you run off and accuse me of fetishwhatevering?
Are you a representative sample of ftms?
What's your favorite beer?
>>5303085
>Can I hit on you?
Sure
>Will you run off and accuse me of fetishwhatevering?
No. Especially if you hit on me without the trans thing being the major draw but I'm not picky. Unless you start talking about mpreg or treating me like a girl we're good.
>Are you a representative sample of ftms?
Not really, I'd say we're pretty good for the gay/bi population since most ftms in the wild tend to be straight/bi. Or trenders but that's a whole 'nother thing...
What's your favorite beer?
I like Angry Orchard or Smith & Forge ciders if those count. Can't do the whole gluten thing. How about you?
>>5303085
i'm fine with people hitting on me...
probably not...
yeung ling, but i prefer wine, whiskey, and spiced rum... beer is usually just a decent way to help get down vodka and overproof rum... i rarely drink though, i prefer weed and pills...
>>5303085
>Can I hit on you? Will you run off and accuse me of fetishwhatevering?
No one would ever hit on me. I wish you would.
>Are you a representative sample of ftms?
ftmgeneral is a good representation of the diversity among ftms, but obviously, 4chan is a less liberal slice of the population.
>What's your favorite beer?
vodka, I don't drink beer
>>5303115
In order:
Ayy
Do people make it weird? That sounds really weird.
Do people really pretend to be trans?
That SUCKS. Not you, but the gluten thing. I am a big stout nerd; my favorite is this overpriced hype beer called Old Rasputin. Right now i'm drinking Flying Dog's "Gonzo" it's delicious and rich and has Thompson's likeness. Check it out:
>>5303119
In order:
Ayy
---
Tell me about pills?
>>5299843
good luck anon
>>5303198
not sure what to really say about them... i love opiates/opioids more than anything (as far as intoxicants go, but drugs in general are one of my favourite things in the world desu) but i try to limit my use of them cuz tolerance goes up quick and the enjoyment goes out of them and then it's a lot of taking them just to take them without getting the same benefits and you gotta keep increasing... i like benzos too, but again i use them on occasion... though i've had points where i've used both frequently... and even rarer i enjoy muscle relaxers with alcohol, and have had points where i was doing that every day... but i'm also fully aware of how easy that can kill someone so i don't recommend it...
>>5303226
ever do acid brooklyn?
>>5303233
i haven't actually, every time i've been in a situation where i could get it it's also been a situation where i knew taking it would be a bad idea... like my s/o's mom's house... i can actually get it now, but i feel like having to take it in this house during the winter would be fucking terrible... i need like spring and fresh air and to not need to be anywhere for a day to do it, and whenever i have those opportunities everyone is fucking dry and it's bullshit...
i do want to try it though...
other than the shit i listed i've only ever taken coke and pcp... and pcp kinda left me with a bit of permanent damage and there were some really bad times with it, but some really amazing ones too... so it was like worth it sorta... i had it with weed though every time for idk... it was 6 or 8 months pretty much every day... from the time i woke up til i went to sleep... it's all hard to keep track of, though honestly my living situation at the time was so bad i probably would've off'ed myself without it...
and coke was just nope... i fucking hated it, i did it for a week anyway, but it was awful and i hate uppers... they make me crazy and neurotic and anxious etc
>>5303248
ever try salvia? tell me your xp i'll tell you mine
>>5303277
i feel like i can't really say i tried it, but i did smoke a little... my s/o's bro and sis tried it, and they both didn't seem to care for it, but there was still some in thr bong when i put weed in and i smoked just enough to make me feel a little anxious and claustrophobic for a few minutes but nothing else.,.
>>5303359
+ i don't feel like it counts though
>>5303372
You are fortunate to have stopped at a low dose, I think. How to put this: the world fell apart. Visually it was like being put through a meat grinder, or at the least like watching one from the pov of the exact point of contact between the cylinders.
I planned ahead and made sure I took it in a famiar place with friends - two of them. Unfortunately, that didn't much help. The trip turned to a sense of "I am between worlds and must choose which one to return to" with each of these friends serving as the sort of ambassador of their dimension. It's a weird feeling, being absolutely certain you're defying the multiverse
As it turns out they both were real and both were just asking me if I was alright.
>>5303372
>>5303359
+ as far as totally legal shit goes i've tried kratom and kava... kava was underwhelming, but it's ok to take the edge off... i really liked kratom though... it feels very much like an opiate, the downside is when you take too much you do end up puking and nauseous as fuck
but like the decent side of that is that the high is good enough to where you don't mind it, and if you just lay down and relax and let your head go with it the nausea chills out and it's nice...
it's the only legal drug i've found that i like... i really want to try ayahuasca though
also surprisingly if you smoke sage it produces a mild high (it contains thujone certain kinds of sage have more of it than others... if i remember right that's the same chemical that's in wormwood which is in absinthe) i've tried it, can't say i care for the high though
>>5303415
Which is the best to cuddle cute boys & zone out to drone-y buddhist prayer music to?
>>5303248
That sucks, acid is the shit. At least your being responsible about when and where you take it. I would definitely not take it a less than ideal setting.
>>5303402
damn yeah, my s/o's siblings both looked pretty freaked out and then got kinda angry after they came out of it... is was honestly kinda weird to watch cuz yeah you can tell the person isn't like there...
that sounds fucked up though, just the taste of it i got was weird enough for me, and offputting... i think if i had smoked more it would've been bad... what i got was just a tiny bit of the 100x one...
i think the most out of it i've ever been high was with pcp and weed on my 22nd birthday, it was fucked up and weird... felt like i was in a tunnel and my vision was weird, kept getting bad deja vu and i had a meltdown over a song (clockwork orange style, the song made my brain feel like it was vibrating and full of static and it got really bad and then all the deja vu started)
at one point i was trying to get my s/o to go in the pool with me, and we changed to do it but then he was like "you're not going anywhere this is a bad idea" i insisted i'd be fine and just needed a cigarette, went out to have one and when i came back he had changed back into his clothes and well... the deja vu meltdown turned into me freaking out about why he had his old clothes on... he kept saying "it's ok" i told him that made me feel worse... then everything just went black
idk how long everything was like that for... but when i came out of it, it was like waking up everything slowly materialized around me, but i hadn't been asleep instead i was in bed going down on my s/o with no idea how i got there... went with it and afterward i wrote and watched the clock to keep from panicking cuz it felt like time wasn't moving
>>5303441
i listen to binaural beats and whatnot occasionally to meditate, but usually not... and that's more of a private thing really...
>>5303479
yeah i've had some intense drug experiences in bad settings so i don't feel like that'd be a good thinng for me... one day when the stars align or whatever i wanna try it though...
i try to be somewhat responsible with drugs though now cuz i've done dumb shit in the past...
>>5277077
well you can experience female orgasms
count your blessings
>>5303591
you know some people are so dysphoric they can't get off so that's hardly a blessing... not me personally, but still... saying that is pretty pointless
>FTM's can grow a better beard than me
why am I cursed with shitty genes? At least I have a penis.
>>5303619
there are some trans guys who can be on T for years and still can't grow much beyond slightly enhanced peach fuzz
you just don't hear from them much
>>5303214
thank you! it went well & i was extremely lucky. i hope everyone else can eventually be as lucky as me.
>>5303759
Glad to hear. Congrats anon!
If your T dose is too high for an extended period then lowered to the proper level do you lose any benefits from taking testosterone?
I moved after getting prescribed and my new doctor told me to up my dose for about 6 months, found out it was nearly triple what it should have been and lowered it down to the "proper" level because of correspondence with another doctor and blood work. How much have I lost in the past 6 months? Been on it for a year, seen minimal changes. Anyone have experience or insight on this?
i forget, do abdominal binders make okay makeshift chest binders, or are they as bad as ace bandages? since they're around the stomach i thought they might be made to not restrict breathing too much, but i'm not sure.
any tips regarding two-finger method ? (stand to pee without device technique)
not FtM but it seems like the best general to ask this
I have a hard time squatting and I enjoyed hiking so some guide or tips would be much appreciated
>>5304888
the stomach doesn't expand as much during breathing as the ribcage so it doesn't seem like a good idea to use it as binder
not FtM tho so take my opinion with a grain of salt
>>5304907
pull up and it works best when you really gotta go... practice before trying it outside... i imagine you have no desire to piss all over your clothes during a hike
>>5304949
Looks like I've got something to try in the shower tomorrow.
really just want to hit the gym 2bh lads
but got to wait for my damn tits to heal.
>>5304225
It matters more what your bloodwork said than what your dose was. Was your T in normal male range during that time?
>>5304888
I wouldn't use anything for a binder that's not made for it.
>>5305697
same
I have a 2XL T Kingdom binder and an XL Double binder, both zip in the front, that I'll give away if anyone wants them. Neither are that great, but I don't want to just throw them away.
>>5305716
How long have you got left to heal?
>>5305716
Wasn't terribly clear in my last post, my bloodwork said I was almost 3 times over the typical male range, I was at 81 for 6 months or more, dropped it down to 34 by adjusting my dose the past 2 months, my doctor wants me to be at 23-28. Not sure what the numbers are, my doctor gives them to me without a measurement behind them and I've yet to ask. But my dose was 100 every week now its 40 of 100ml/mg depo-testosterone.
Mostly I'm just concerned with going forward, have I just lost time or have I irreversibly fuked up my transition by taking such a high amount that I was basically just shooting more estrogen into my system?
>>5305961
There's no reason you've fucked it up. It's not like some sort of a drug and now you've upped your body's tolerance to testosterone. You've probably just lost time, stick with it and the testosterone will kick in eventually.
>>5305961
None of those numbers mean anything to me without knowing the unit of measurement. You should request copies of your own bloodwork so you can see for yourself. Two minutes of googling will show if your numbers are ok or not.
>have I irreversibly fuked up my transition by taking such a high amount that I was basically just shooting more estrogen into my system
If your bloodwork was 3 times above normal male range, it wasn't converting to estrogen. It won't fuck you up for the future either. When you say you had no changes on T, do you literally mean nothing? Not even voice? Because the first year of any transition is usually a whole lot of nothing, but your voice should have at least cracked after a few months.
>>5305955
about a month
Lets start an APP rumor about FTM's wanting to finger themselves while they wear burlap sacks as every aricle of clothing and see if it catches on. Cuz there isn't any hate because everyone thinks that ftms are women and women don't have a depraved mind or fetishes.
Face it no one hates you cuz they think you're lesbians following Freudian prophecies.
>>5306393
>Face it no one hates you cuz they think you're lesbians following Freudian prophecies.
this is oddly true. A lot of ftms and butch lesbians with penis envy overlap each other.
Is it gay if I'm straight but I really want to have sex with a ftm and his boy pussy?
>>5306487
pre-T? or post T passing?
Because pre-T ftms are women in every way so it's still straight.
>>5306565
not every way. a person's mind is a significant part of them; people are not just their bodies. also if someone is specifically seeking out ftms rather than people with vaginas in general, they're not particularly straight.
>>5306487
go for it dude. I'm a straight guy too and I've had my fair share of ftms. I'm into butch, masc chicks so ftms will fit that mold most of the time. They're also thirsty as fuck.
The one chick I had wanted me to pound her butthole but I just flipped her over and pounded her vagina instead. She was really unhappy but I had a blast. She still wants to meet up with me to have anal sex like her yaois, but I just like fucking her vagina because I know it bothers her. Plus she told me she secretly liked it in a guilty pleasure sort of way. She just says she felt like shit after doing PIV even though she loves it.
>>5306606
>I'm a man!
> says the adorable butch chick with gorgeous hot boobs and tight pussy in a cute girly voice
yeah sure you are. Pretty sure I'm still a straight guy.
Now if you looked like a legit dude with pecs and hairy ass with beard, I'd pass.
>>5306565
Bieber tier pre T
>>5306614
Damn, I don't know what it is about a woman having a shaved head and dressing like a wigger that makes them so much hotter but I love it.
>>5306671
amen to that
>>5306393
i thought no one hated me cuz of my charming personality...
>>5306487
subjective... if you don't think it's gay then it isn't to you...
>>5306565
technically not "every way" like they said >>5306606
people are more than just their bodies... that's simply a part of who they are... and yeah you can choose to judge someone based solely on physical things, but saying "every way" is an exaggeration nonetheless...
and yeah yeah this response >>5306631
still ignores the whole "you're more than your physical form" idea...and misses the point of their post... but like i said... shit's subjective think what you want...
>>5306369
Minimal change, maybe I'm just not giving credit where credit is due. But, personally don't feel like my voice has changed at all in the past year. People have been saying I sound more like my mom than anything else which is discouraging :/
As for other things, I was pretty hairy before starting T I haven't really noticed much of a change in body hair other than I'm actually losing hair off the outsides of my calves.
It's typical to not see much change in 1 year? From all the timeline stuff I've peeked at for other guys it seems like the majority of other people are further along than me by quite a bit. Again maybe its just self perception and impatience but I feel like somethings just not working out on my end when I compare.
>>5306921
does your mom sound manly?
honestly the timelines you see are gonna be the more successful examples... i've heard other guys say shit along the same lines as you... it happens, only thing you can do is be patient...
>>5306939
>>5306921
+ don't compare yourself to other people... keep a timeline of shit for yourself that's just of you and look at your progress that way... cuz especially if you're looking at people online you're not getting a full scope of the way shit always works out for transguys with t as far as time and shit goes...
people who are uncomfortable with their progress are unlikely to post timelines...
>>5306939
Not particularly, haha. A least I didn't consider her to have a lower voice than I did before starting T.
Just feeling like I've been on a treadmill this whole time, and not looking forward to feeling that way for another year+, I suppose waiting is all there is to do. I don't know how hopeful I should be that a dose change will result in anything better though.
>>5306979
i get you, that sounds disheartening... but honestly there's probably shit you haven't noticed that has changed and it's pretty normal to focus on the things that aren't what you want them to be and overlook the other shit cuz this is something that sucks and bothers you...
i've seen people say that it can take closer to 2 years for some people rather than 1... which sucks, but you've come this far already you know?
>>5306921
I do think it's abnormal that you haven't had your voice deepen or new hair growth.
>>5306979
I feel most of my good changes didn't come until 1 year+ so don't give up hope.
>>5306995
>>5307270
It is a relief to hear its not too out of the ordinary in that sense, I'll keep waiting and you're probably right about just not noticing the changes in favour of what bothers me more and remains the same. Thanks for the advice.
>>5307035
Yeah I felt it was. But, I mean, I had a few boyfriends before transition and in every case I had more body hair than them so... I dunno hah. a bit more fuzz here and there might go rather unnoticed cause I'm just accustomed to being fuzzy. what worried me more was the loss of hair on my legs since starting T.
The general lack of voice change is the most frustrating thing, but maybe its just a result of being way off typical male range, time will tell, I can only hope.
>>5308210
Do you want to post a voice sample?
My dysphoria is at a pretty low point right now; I don't feel particularly horrible about any part of my body, just uncomfortable, and it's really making me doubt myself. What do?
(I would've posted this on the Trans Help General but my questions never get answered there)
>>5309514
that's tough. have you started transitioning at all, either physically or socially? did your dysphoria used to be really strong, and is there any chance you just convinced yourself your dysphoria existed because you confused gender identity with gender roles, or you started thinking being trans & transitioning would solve other issues in your life? the last thing is pretty rare if you're not in a very specific tumblr echo chamber, especially if you're actually questioning yourself, but it's good to make sure.
the strength of my dysphoria has fluctuated a lot over time, and while my social dysphoria is always there to some extent when someone clearly considers me a woman, sometimes my physical dysphoria for my breasts completely went away for awhile & i only bound them when going outside to help with the social dysphoria. i was actually at a no-physical-dysphoria point when i had top surgery, and while i was worried i might be making the wrong choice, it turned out to definitely be the right one for me.
i don't know you well enough to say you really are trans and your dysphoria is fluctuating, so i don't want to insist that that's the case, but unless you have other reasons that you might've tricked yourself into thinking you're trans, it's likely.
>>5309906
I've barely came out to a few of my friends, and my boyfriend. My dysphoria used to be strong, yes, it went up and down for a while, and during this past month has been decreasing. I doubt I started feeling dysphoric because being the other gender would fix something in my life, as it started at a point in my life where there wasn't really much going on; I've got a pretty good understanding of the difference between gender roles and gender identity, so I doubt it's that.
In any case, perhaps it's just fluctuating because of other reasons, only time will tell. I'm still socially dysphoric, but not so much body dysphoric as of now
Thanks anon
>>5309906
different person, but about the gender roles vs identity thing, that's what I'm conflicted about right now. for something like the last 5 years I was with the whole /mlp/ fuck gender roles things but now I don't even know.
>>5282853
Not them, but I find it interesting- why would anyone think not fitting into either gender is stupid? I mean, I've known a few of those that are MtF transitioning with hormones but don't want to lose the penis, for instance, because they're just comfortable being not quite female- they're not really a girl or a guy, they just are what they are.
>>5311325
It validates our own existence. Doesn't it?
Society hates us for messing with notions of sex and gender but we can say, hey, we jus want to be guys (or women) we're not trying to be some sort of freakish half and half all our lives, just in early transition.
>>5311325
honestly i don't care or see anything wrong with it... people have different comfort levels and feel differently... whatever someone wants to do with their body is their business and they're free to do it, and if that's something that falls in between then that's just right for them...
though i do think it's odd to feel the need to announce it and say "i'm a guy today" instead of just having a conversation...
>>5311374
eh no matter what we're never cis, and people who want something in between really don't reflect on someone who takes the whole thing further... the truth of it is society needs to stop trying to dictate what's acceptable for a person to do with their own body... there's no reason to actually care what someone else does like that, our bodies are the only thing we can ever truly own, and people should be free to be themselves and alter themselves however they see fit... it doesn't need to be understood by anyone else, and it doesn't need to sit right with everyone either...
people care way too much about what other people do...
besides i kinda feel like if someone can just be trans who am i to say that people can't fall somewhere in between?
