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last: >>5057600
eggplants
ok
Jocelyn:
Look, I don't wanna talk about this. It was a bad night, and I wish everyone would just shut up about it. I'm leaving.
Kiwi:
Jocelyn was sooOOoo unattractive ugh lol
bruuhhhhh
>not dickgirl farm general
>>5059321
except they both said they weren't attracted to each other because they both basically look like boys right now because they're early in transition
well here is less drama, i like this one better
>>5059326
braaaaaah suuuuup
>>5059338
More To The Fucking Point: Jocelyn wanted to not make it mtfg's business but kiwi went ahead and fucking did, and just talked shit, called Jocelyn ugly, all while acting like her pretty princess points are maxed the fuck out and she's an innocent little flower.
>>5059352
kiwi was being attacked, called a rapist for the past three days
stop trying to change history for drama
>>5059326
tonight is just brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrh v.v
>>5059326
bruh
why these people have no chill though
>>5059364
Because you touch yourself at night.
>>5059378
oh snap
Ay
I was asking about the potential I had a few nights ago, and I finally got those pics that some people requested
This was my face
http://imgur.com/a/p8cQa
and body (kinda nsfw)
http://i.imgur.com/iO95XOw.jpg
How long do you think it'll be until I pass?
Do you think I have the ability to actually be a qt at some point?
I wasn't able to get measurements but the pictures show it
>>5059427
oh by the way nice job on that landing strip fam
>>5059427
for the hundredth time, yes
>>5059459
Landing strip?
>>5059465
your shaved pubes
>>5059427
>http://i.imgur.com/iO95XOw.jpg
Get girl pills. Now.
>>5059483
>http://i.imgur.com/iO95XOw.jpg
that looks like a job of grillpills already
REMEMBER MTFG ;~;
YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF TO HAVE A GOOD TIME!!!
YOU CAN DANCE AND PARTY ALL NIGHT AND DRINK SOME CHERRY WINE!!!
>>5059511
>YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE YOUR CLOTHES OFF TO HAVE A GOOD TIME
Look who's talking.
>>5059483
Beautiful
>>5059520
Said you don't HAVE to, not that you don't.
>>5059511
I don't have girl clothes yet
>>5059544
I beg to differ.
>>5059557
i've only had sex once tho...;~:
>>5059586
It's not about your sex life, it's about the way you think.
>>5059544
How am I gonna get some if I don't want to go to the store while I don't pass because I'll look like shit
>>5059586
>i've only had sex once tho...;~:
the times we did it count, dont lie to anon alison it isn't kool
>>5059664
No sorry I am not gay.
>>5059678
are you a boy or girl anon?
i just want someone [else] to touch me ;---;
i can teach you to be gay
bisexuals have the most fun u know
The drama thread is moving way faster.
Just sayin'.
>>5059309
They're called aubergines everywhere that matters except for the U.S. Get with the program! Also stop using bizarre antiquated units and writing dates and times weird.
pic related
>>5059768
Start driving on the correct side of the street
>>5059810
>implying it's just bongs who use aubergine
This week I finally mustered up the courage to go to a youth trans meetup in sf and fucking was told at the desk it was on hiatus for a few weeks.
At least it's temporary, and there's probably other meetups too, but I walked out of there with the worst panic attack ugh
>>5059822
._.
I just don't know... The anger, sadness, and self-hate isn't going to go away. Eventually, that little voice that says "maybe you can make it, just keeping holding on" will stop, and then I just don't know..
>>5059427
if you have to ask a crazy group of strangers to help you make a major life decision based mostly on your current looks,
you fucked in the head son
being qt is always nice, but there's a lot more work to pass as fulltime fem
and gid is a major component, otherwise why would you choose to part of one of the most hated groups in life?
>>5059866
>I know that feel ;_:
Drugs help, and by that I mean prescription antidepressants. Also getting on hormones will give you some hope for the future
>>5059927
hrt: 2 yrs.
AD: been on two
I feel like i've really given it all of my best.
>>5059930
3 months did a lot for me..
>>5059932
huh?
>>5059930
Do you have a job? have you been to uni? Do you have any hobbies or interests
because personally what keeps me going is the idea of doing something I love for the rest of my life.
I've been in this situation before, and it really comes down to motivation, a drive to prove that my identity isn't based just on whats between my legs, but what I do.
Idk find something you want to do
>>5059945
yeah, its about the only thing that I try to use as a "life raft".i actually really pour myself into my work. It also serves as my best distraction. I'm a grad student, and work as an researcher. But the inescapable feeling that I've never be happy, or even remotely comfortable.. So I work until I'm exhausted everyday, but i cant keep running forever..
>>5059966
>Tfw I'm trying to be a researcher too
So are you trying to live stealth?
Do you pass?
>>5059988
>Do you pass?
no
>stealth
It'd be nice. I don't mind being "out" if i was close. I'm not...
>>5059309
>>5059309
>>5059309
!!! NEW IRC !!!
Network: irc.freenode.org
Channel: #mtfg
//please append this info to future threads.
>>5059994
Well for me My whole aim at work right now is to save enough money to get surgery (FFS, then maybe SRS in the future) , it's what gets me through the days
>>5060021
sounds like we're in the same boat. I'm saving for ffs too. Already met one dr., now just yrs of saving if i make it. good luck!
>>5059867
I have major dysphoria
I just also want to know if I'll be cute
>>5060029
you're even further than me that's awesome :D
Please try to not kill yourself before the surgery. I want to see another success story timeline
Is the drama finally gone?
>>5060097
Shh you'll jinx us
>>5059309
>mfw people call aubergine "eggplant"
>>5059427
There is something about your face that reads male to me right now, but very femboy male. You'll easily pass with no make up after hrt and you could probably pass now with make up.
>>5060134
Ikr. It looks nothing like an egg
>>5060145
Yeah but you grow it by putting scrambled eggs in the ground you nerd.
Also good morning! I drank like, a bottle of wine last night. whatd I miss?
>>5060154
Good morning! So much drama and shit, it was pretty bad ;_; Have you escaped a hangover?
>>5060164
Drama is dumb. I didn't get that drunk, so no hangover to speak of really. I told my gf that I wanted to marry her, but she told me that I'm too young to know what I want and that I haven't really lived enough of my life because I only went fulltime a year ago.
I mean she's totally right but idk, it was kinda upsetting to hear that. No one takes me seriously because they think I'm a stupid kid.
>>5060170
I get that all the time, people like to feel superior and age is an easy target.
Just wait it out...
>>5060030
if you have major dysphoria, you wouldn't need to ask b/c it wouldn't be a choice
What does mtfg think of mtfs who whenever they see a cute male character they instantly declare him a transwoman? As a gay man it pisses me the fuck off.
>>5059427
You have massive potential, get grillpills plox
Also, kinda qt already
>>5060195
I don't really care.
>>5060195
Dude who gives a shit how other people interpret fiction, you must be a really boring motherfucker if this is something that genuinely "pisses you off"
>>5060204
>Dude who gives a shit how other people interpret fiction
People who claim to "tear down gender roles" by reinforcing them are obnoxious fucks what's not to get mad about?
And it's not just them it's the army of straight men that try to force me to go along with it. Typical women with their straight/bi male drones.
>finally get to sleep in
>wake up naturally at 6am any way
Well fuck you too body.
>>5060195
I didn't know people do this.
>>5059810
I'm French. You know there's such thing as International English right? And clapistanese is just a dialect spoken by ~300 million, maybe like a third or a quarter of the people who actually use English.
>>5060195
You seem mad
Slow sunday
>>5060211
>People who claim to "tear down gender roles"
Ah I see, you seem to have confused trans women with pandemisexual trans* dimensional otterkin. An easy mistake to make.
>check okc
>"you have 64 messages"
>check them
>all of 'em dudes wanting to initiate contact
>some really cute ones included
>open one
>"bb I want to worship your feet"
>immediately turned on
That boy found my soft spot.
Why isn't there a general for asexual trannies?
>>5060266
Make one, anon-chan!
>>5060244
whoever drew this must be the most boring person on earth
>>5060244
How do you fail at sex this badly?
Sup mtfg. Any reason why the OP has been edited recently? Its like, 4 lines shorter than usual by mk1 eyeballing it.
>>5060195
>being this easily baited
>>5060266
why do you need one? To talk about all the sex you don't want to have?
is being trans like being super gay?
>>5060354
No.
Why do so many transwomen have such a problem acknowledging that as children they weren't as disadvantaged as transmen? Even as teens transwomen had it easier especially the ones who were "straight". You can't change the fact that once upon you were a straight teenage boy basking in your privileges.
>>5060359
I just have a hard time accepting myself I guess.
>>5060372
Yes you do.
>>5060348
>implying it was bait
Please look what happened when they revealed the new Link for the new Zelda game. Everyone was going "OH EM GEE SO TOTALLY TRANS!"
We can't have cute male characters anymore without you twats shitting up the place.
>>5060361
>transmen as children are able to act masc because society doesnt hate it
>as a child i acted femme and got stabbed, beaten and repeated murder attempts
Really not seeing these priviledges tbh
>>5060361
What the fuck are you talking about? Ftm's were never forced to woman up, they could literally dress any way they wan't and no one gave them shit because no one ever gives girls shit about what they wear.
Mtf's like me though had it rough as fuck. The beatings, the bullying, having to literally hide myself from everyone and everything I loved or else they would have threw me to the wolves. Having to work like a slave just to be seen as manly enough not to catch a beating.
You are full of shit, being mtf is hell and its always been hell.
>>5060382
Your experience is not that of Caitlyn Jenners or say a transwoman I know who was your average straight white male up until a few years ago. She now goes on about how tough her childhood was when she's full of shit and her mom has called her out on it before stating she never made her do anything she didn't want or keeping her from liking things she liked.
>>5060383
I am not crazy, I am just pstd'd out of my fucking mind. imagine growing up being told to hate yourself for being feminine.
>>5060389
>most trans women are millionaire olympians before they transition
>>5060361
>straight male
>privileges
Just face it, females are more privileged than males.
>>5060382
Kayla pls, let's not pretend ftms had everything handed to them just because someone posted some bait.
>>5060401
Well all I know is every typical american girl is spoiled fucking rotton as a teen. They can literally do whatever they want. If they want to shave their head and work out then they are called empowered, if they dress in pink all day they are empowered, if they drink at a party under age they are empowered, they got away with all sorts of bullshit like "well son see she is allowed to do [insert everything] because girls mature faster then boys." I had to put up with that shit all day.
>>5060407
Exactly, males are expected to live to a certain norm and are excluded from society as soon as they decide to do anything remotely individual.
>>5060413
>You haven't been away from your mother in years.
I think thats her point
>2 threads going at once
whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
>>5060428
Trannies, man.
>>5060426
>grotesque
I was fucking ridiculed for listening to rock and having long hair back in the day
Funny enough, most of them actually look and act like me 10 years ago now...
>>5060407
lolol this terrible bait
>>5060314
Some unnecessary things were removed that weren't endorsed as official /mtfg/ content.
>>5060361
>once upon you were a straight teenage boy
I was a huge fag who accidentally made some of my classmates believe I was a girl at 9 though.
someone please make sure the new IRC channel is put in the OP from now on
>>5060457
The #tranny on FreeNode?
>>5059645
O N L I N E
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>>5060459
#mtfg on freenode
>>5060457
Nobody uses IRC.
>>5060465
Nerds do.
>>5060465
>2015
>not getting your chinese cartoons from irc bots
Is there anything as hilarious as a transgirl who gets mad that her boyfriend dumped her because she came out as trans? Like what the fuck do you expect to happen? That he'll go "Baby I'll love you no matter what?" Get real.
>>5060466
>transbians do
Ftfy
>>5060464
Who runs it?
>>5060469
I wouldn't want to be with someone who would stay. You've gotta be pretty fucked up to stick it out during that first year of transitioning.
>>5060472
idk actually, Mazily? if possible we could like vote on who we want as ops and stuff.
>>5060475
>Is there some backstory to this?
Posts on tumblr whining how someone is "transphobic" for not staying with a trans person even if the gender they're transitioning to isn't what they're attracted to. Also posts similar to that about asexuals. People don't realize that nobody has to stay with them and it's hilarious.
>>5060479
ops are terrible. Every time I've been in a irc the ops seem to have this holier-than-thou attitude because they "run" an irc channel. No ops.
so this is the thread now??
>>5060480
It's tumblr so...
>>5060497
no the other one
>>5060497
NO CHILL
>>5060497
sure
>>5060244
>the bondage one
b-but it's more fun if they have to pee??
>the threesome one
wtf that just means you weren't doing it with the right people
>the dom/sub one
yeah okay this is just drawn by a complete loser tbh
>>5060505
I feel like I need to respond to this in the more current thread too
she was telling me what happened because she found it mindblowingly hot, not because she was upset
I wasn't getting off on her having a 'traumatic experience' or whatever
like I said, degenerate, not autistic
>>5060538
Things that never happened for 200, Alex.
>>5060542
she might be getting into porn because her mental health has blocked off her original career path
if she ever does I'll post links k?
>>5060497
I don't know it's really confusing
>>5060405
fuck thats hot
>tfw no one to abuse you
>>5060544
please stop..
>>5060547
autism, the post
>>5060547
alright, jesus
everybody post voice
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0wpWe0UEUFV
>>5060548
I'm sorry.
>>5060548
You think it's autistic to tell somebody to stop acting like some dudebro?
>>5060552
What are you going to do, tell three quarters of the trips to stop acting like a dudebro each thread?
>>5060552
>god I want to be throat fucked so bad
>dudebro
>>5060552
I want reddit to leave
Asked this before, no response.
What's the consensus on Alldaychemist's mones? I've heard sketchy things about their spiro in particular.
>>5060555
>Hey bros
>This girl that puked from getting 'throat fucked' may go into per because she's too mentally unstable to go into a good career
>I'll share it with you brahs if she does
>>5060554
Didn't three quarter of the trips already leave or some shit? whats up with that
>>5060534
You're a complete loser
>>5060561
>sharing publicly available porn over the internet
yeh brah
so hardcore
>>5060558
If you are that desperate there are numerous sites that host written erotica. You don't have to settle for someones badly written and greentexted sexual fantasies.
>>5060561
not pirate it I mean just link to whatever site she uses
jesus christ I was just posting about a deranged sexual fantasy that happened to come true for someone else I know, it wasn't meant to be a major thing
I only brought up the porn thing because you were bitching it wasn't real
talk about drama over nothing... and they call me autistic...
>>5060568
oh my god if I was making something up why wouldn't I just say "gee I wish this would happen to me" or even "lol guiz this happened to me", why would I say it happened to a friend? you're literally making a conversation out of bugger all
EVERYBODY POST VOICE
>>5060354
My mom thinks so.
>>5060560
Have you? I used them for a month and it seemed to work like it was supposed to, it was also my first month of HRT though.
>>5060574
I would share my awful guy voice with you but my mother is around and it would be awkward talking to myself. Maybe later tho
>>5060354
Paris Lees often says so but I think she's just joking
>>5060586
She has passing privlege so I don't consider her voice too important tbh. Just go enjoy life and get srs.
>>5060574
https://clyp.it/1ekw0sm1
>>5060575
About a year ago I heard some people say they got bad batches from ADC. Combine that with India's medicine adulteration problem and yeah... don't want my T to spike.
Relevant to me cause no prescription insurance rn.
>>5060574
>EVERYBODY POST VOICE
Well alright then.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s14cOmbNIvKy
>>5060606
Oh, I'm sorry, but I don't know how to be helpful. It might be worth it to just go for it. It's gotta be better than nothing, right?
>>5060586
I like Paris, but yeah to most cis/straight people we are basically extremely gay
>>5060609
A lot of people whisper, do you normally do this or is it just for recordings? I wasn't able to talk to anyone until I was able to make my voice louder, and now I have a difficult time bringing it down which is something I should practice.
>>5060616
I can't talk loudly in a fem voice.
Just can't get it to a higher volume on my own.
That's why I use my male voice at work and pretend to be mute in public.
>>5060574
https://clyp.it/jvu3qick
some hard-hitting sunday thoughtz from urs truly
>>5060626
yeah it took me a while to get it loud but interacting with so many old people at work, and being in a loud cafe at the time I didn't have much of a choice but to learn to speak up.
>>5060626
>will never cuddle in that bedroom
end it now fam
>>5060631
You remind me of this lesbian I knew who sold drugs and I like that.
>>5060635
Who would you like to cuddle with anon?
>>5060634
Wish I could do the same.
>>5060645
a cute guy
>>5060652
Well then iktf.
A guy's warm hug would be nice rn.
>>5060653
Nah my room is lame.
>>5060574
https://clyp.it/0eew0kty
>>5060574
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0D4DhFGal1W
>>5060570
You called yourself autistic and I just acknowledged it...
I was being sarcastic when I wrote the auts post responding to the lewd stuff but you can't sense sarcasm which is exactly what I find the most autistic about you, no offense I have the auts too.
You're a laff, it's fun having you here
>>5060664
>A guy's warm hug would be nice
tfw haven't been hugged since I was a child by anyone, let alone a big manly guy
I want to be engulfed by him and carried into a giant lump of pillows and bed sheets and just stare at the wall together
>>5060653
https://clyp.it/xgxetk4r
<3
>>5060666
>is 9 am too early to start drinking
Not if you're an adult who does whatever the fuck she wants
>>5060672
... you reverted back to what you were doing a few weeks ago ;__; I hope it is just because you're sick.
>all the shitposters come back with trips now like nothing ever happened
The best shitposter is here
>>5060707
Ey yo, cons over!
You free?
>>5060719
cheska?
>>5060653
can you please give tips on how to have a nice voice
>>5060712
at least now we have a general idea of who the shitposters are
>>5060724
Only 13 days free
Better make those plans bby <3
>>5060725
Guess again
>>5060706
Sounds qt anonette. Don't despair, you'll find a qt guy to hug the shit out of you eventually.
Though I doubt you'd just stare at the wall together :p
>>5060732
thats adorable
>>5060734
>tfw no Hideo Kojima pillow
>>5060707
http://vocaroo.com/i/s05x6zBOEVVv
>>5060752
I haven't had access to skype since friday morning. x:
>>5060756
Waaaat? I thought... hmm...
Well how much longer are you going to be in Atlanta today?
>>5060763
Well, my dev friend is just recovering from a hang over.
There's a big keynote later today but it sounds like cushy feels stuff and we wanna skip it.
He wants to head back pretty soon but if we can meet up he's willing to wait a bit.
>tfw Jocelyn killed herself
Good night sweet princess ;_;
>>5060776
Noooo it's going to be like 3 hours until I could make it up there since the drive is like an hour and a half.
How come Kiwi's reddit account says she's been on HRT for like months (3 months) yet here she is saying she just started? Something is not adding up at all
>>5060793
the plot thickens I see
>>5060779
she really did?
wat happened?
>>5060793
3 months isn't that long
>>5060801
Yeah but she was posting here about getting her first dose like a week ago or something.
>>5060780
Afgh.. affggh!
Yeah, just asked him.
He just looked at me and shook his head and said no a few times. . -.
>>5060811
Yeah I figured, then he'd want to be leaving the whole time while I was there any way and it just wouldn't be fun... Here's to another reason that I'm depressed about not living in the city any more.
>>5060810
why are all trannies such lying pieces of shit? is it societies fault?
>>5060817
We just got used to it after lying to everyone about our gender for all our life ;_;
>>5060817
>tfw lying tranny scum
>>5060817
paranoia likely
>>5060793
>hey anon what are these messages about you stalking trannies on the internet doing on your computer?
>i-is this really what you dropped out of school for anon..
>you said you were job hunting still
>whats this.. r9k? oh my god..
>>>/chasergen/
Good morning! How's mtfg doing today?
>>5060835
seeing Umara brightens up my day ^_^
>>5060814
Sorry... </3
>>5060835
its 10am and im about to go to bed and sleep all day
then tomorrow i get to call the clinic and get on hrt (hopefully)
>>5060835
>tfw I'll never smoke with elanna and jocey
>tfw we'll never be so high the 3 of us just have intense make out sessions and groping
Why live
>>5060835
I'm waiting for a certain person to get home from work so I can talk to her :3
Who virgin here?
>>5060845
Hopefully you're not Canadian and forgetting tomorrow is a stat holiday.
>>5060852
FUCK
>>5060853
Sorry.
You could go early vote tomorrow instead? That's also a super important thing.
>tfw you're crushing hard on a trip but she's never even posted a picture so you have no idea what she looks like
>>5060858
thats the best way to fall in love tbh
>>5060866
anyone but the conservatives basically
find out whichever other candidate is most likely to win in your riding and vote for that candidate
>>5060858
i habe a pictur of her, here
>>>/soc/22606041
>>5060858
who
>>5060835
Currently omw to get some weed cookies!
Gonna be a good night hopefully.
You?
>>5060866
Its an assumption, I know plenty of people that did the hellish night shift thing.
Oh and as for party, every party but the conservatives are pro lgbt.
>>5060874
You keep getting creepier and creepier Oddish. Talk to a doctor and get sedated.
>>5060885
Im not oddish tbh fam. oddish is trutrans, Im just an admirer of trans girls and there is nothing creepy about that.
>>5060866
Anyone who is not Conservative is the best option for trans issues.
Given the time zone you mentioned it's a toss up which party that means. BC projections are pretty all over the map right now
>>5060875
i'm guessing it's either you or bexe. she has a way with anons tbh
>>5060877
That sounds like a lot of fun, I'm jealous ^^
I'm just having a lazy day, having thanksgiving dinner with my family this evening.
>>5060894
The niqab issue is a smokescreen put up by harper's conservatives to distract from the real issue: their terrible record with the economy. Look up party platforms to get a real idea of who you want to vote for, this niqab business is harper being openly racist to divide voters.
>>5060896
she truly does
could be kit too tho, she's 100% condensed GF materail
>>5060894
>niqab
Not a real issue. Conservatives just need some fear mongering and racism because their stances on issues are generally horrifying.
>>5060889
>oddish is trutrans
:^)
>>5060872
>monobrow
>>5060866
Strictly speaking none because federal elections have next to no impact on healthcare. But otherwise NDP - Libs - Green in more or less that order.
>>5060839
It's okayy! <3
>>5060912
There's still trans issues at the federal level though.
Conservatives do seem to want to kill healthcare funding in general, and were the one party against expanding anti-discrimination to trans people.
>>5060919
What ever happened to that trans rights bill? It got passed and sent to the senate and I never heard about it again :/
(Oh and some conservative MPs voted for it, notably John Baird, but I've heard rumors that he's gay)
>>>/soc/22606122
kek
>>5060927
The useful stuff (presentation) got taken out then when it was sent to the senate it got stalled.
>>5060931
D___D
>>5060933
And now it's dead in the water because parliament got dissolved? (.__. )
Fuckin' a.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJL4UGSbeFg
hi hows it
>>5060948
anna if I could marry any trip it would be you tbh
>>5060942
Yaaaay~
At the very least our protections are probably there anyways due to court rulings. Ontario and BC specifically tend to have very pro trans courts whenever anyone makes human rights complaints, then they set precedents that other provinces follow.
>>5060943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbCM1pREIDM
>>5060927
In Europe there was an openly gay conservative 10 years ago that rose to popularity and then got assassinated by a left-wing extremist.
>tfw won't get my hormones
>>5060943
What happened to Shania Twain? She used to be unstoppable.
>>5060966
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>>5060904
I'm not going to say who it is.
